Case 9:08-cv-80736-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 Page 1 of 63 GOVERNMENT EXHIBIT C EFTA00592533

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12/1222098 db 48 BA%36-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 Da a wm -_ ~~ 2007-04-75 ER TxT IN THE CIRCUIT COUKI OF TIF FIFTEENTH JUDICIAL CARCUTT TN AND FOR PALM BEACH COUNTY, FLORIDA STATE OF FLORIDA STATE OF FLORIDA, vs. JCFFREY EPSTCIN, Defendant. TRANSCRIPT OF TAVLD STATCMENT OF 1 4.24-07 rrans {be by: vicki S. Woodham, Court Reporter Notary Public, State of rlorida consor & Associates 1655 Palm Beach dakes Boulevard, Suite 500 West Palm Beach, Florida 33401 Phone - 561.682.0905 037/093 Page 2 of 63 EFTA00592534

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12/11/2007 1 1:49 FAX Case 9:08-cv-8073 en | il 14 as 16 17 18 19 2007-04 25 ME rxr Nm (Taped statement as follows:) AGENT RICHARDS: This is Special Agent Jason Richards with the FeL along with Special agent Nesbit Kirkendul and Assistant United States Attorney Maric Bilafonia here to conduct an interview with ms. THEME atso present is her attorney, Jim Fisenberg and Carrie shechan. MR. EISENBERG: And we are here -- This is Jim Eisenberg and my investigator, Ms. Sheehan is here, and we're here pursuant to a subpuena that was served on me for THEME and thac’s why we're here. So ms. Bilafonia, it’s your show, MS. BILAFONTA; Okay, great. AGEN! RICHARDS: { also want to add that the date is 4-24-07, and the time by my watch is 4:21 p.m. BY AGENT RICHARDS: Q. Tatum, we just wad) jo start off and £°11 lead off first. we just want to get some basic info about you, simple stuff. T've got your date of birth as 7-26-88; is that correct? A. Yes, sir. Q. I just want to get like your basics like that stuff First. Your cuerent address? \. CE.) e210 Beach, Page 2 038/099 6-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 Page 3 of 63 EFTA00592535

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12/11/2907 11:50 FAX 9 039/033 Case 9:08-cv-80736-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 Page 4 of 63 23 ra) 25 2007-01-25 QR x7 3 33411. Q. You have a cel? phone or a. 56] a. Q. And home phone? A. only cell, Q. only cell, okay. Now have you had other cel) phone numbers in the past and do you know any of those? A. (HR, that's the only one ¢ can remember, Q. Okay. But you had some others? A, Uh-huh. Q. Okay. BY MS. RILAFONIA: Q. who"’s your service provider? A. Metro, Q. Metro. And for that other number as well? A. Yes. BY AGCNT RICHARDS: Q. Where did you go tv high school? ae Q. and what year did you graduate? A. T dropped out in eleventh, Q. what year was that that you dropped out, do you remember? A, No. Q. What year were you supposed to graduate, your Page 3 EFTA00592536

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12/11/2007 11:50 FAX 040/039 Case 9:08-cv-80736-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 Page’ 5 of 63 >_ he Ne wu i i 04-75 BR xt ™~ So “Ni class? A, ‘06. Q. Okay. A. IT had got my GFD. Q when did you get thar? aA about three months ago. Q. And are you going To college anywhere currently? A. Not right now. Q. Plans? a. Tt have plans. BY MS, BILAFONIA: Q@. where are you thinking about going? A. || not positive what 1 want to de. There's a tot of things on my mind, but right now | focusing on T have a two year old so right now | just my son. working. AGENT RICHARDS: He's a handful? THE WITNESS: Yeah. AGENT RICHARDS: 1 have one, too. THF WITNESS: Yeah. So in the future, T'm definitely going to go to college. I'm going definitely going to go to school. Aur I have, you know, a modeling career going on right now that's Page 4 EFTA00592537

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041/099 12/14/200% 5b 5% EM 36.KAM Document 403-3. Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 Pagté'ol 63 vw is) oN NO — 10 12 183 14 1s 16 47 19 70 21 22 23 2007 -04-25 = 1X! hopefully yoing to ~~ some of you will notice me, hopefully, and that would be great, but 1 don't know, BY MS. BLLAFONIA: Q. Where else are you working? A. I work for advanced Cleaning Systems. They clean carpets. AGENT RICHARDS: Advanced what was it? THE WITNESS: System Cleaning. BY MS. GILAFONIA: Q. And where are they located? A. Las Palmas, Ll Swanee, S-w-a-n-e-e, Swanee Drive. Q. Are you working in an office there or do you go out Lo people's homes? A. I work in an office there. BY AGENT RICHARDS: Oo. Obviously, you know why we're here and what we want to talk about. So Tet me just kind of lead into do you know Jeffrey Fpscein? A. Yes, Q. yes, of course, you do. Now when did you mect Jeff? poes he go by Jeff or settrey or - A. setfrey. Page 5 EFTA00592538

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12/1 O07 ‘50 FAX 4 8 2/101 eS b.b8-ev-80736-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 Pag@? of 6% 2007-04-25 ME txt é 24 Q. Okay. When did you meet him and who introduced 25 you ro Jeffrey? 6 ] A. My girlfriend, Carolyn, introduced me to ? JeCfrey. 3 Q. Do you know her last name? 4 A. No. She was a friend of one of my friends, so 5 T really didn't know her. 6 BY MS. BILAFONIA: @ Z iP when was that? 8 A. tT really couldn't tell you. T don't even 9 remember. It's been so Tong ago. 10 BY AGCNT RICHARDS: ul Q. 50 Carulyn introduced you to him, was it ata 12 party setting or how did you guys mect? 13 A. No. She came to me and she said hey, would you 14 like cto make a couple dollars and I said sure. 1 said 1§ doing what? She said, well, I know this Jeffrey. tie 16 lives on Palm Beach Island and I bring girls there and he 17 likes massages and 1 was like okay. So T asked her, t 18 said well, what abour my age? And she said well, just 19 make sure that you tel! him that you're 18. and 1 had 2 20 fake ID at the time and we went There. 2L QQ. Ukuy. and about what time period was it Lbat $ page 6 EFTA00592539

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121140200 b.db-2y-66936-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 Pag@’S‘of Os 2007-04-25 HR ix: e@ 22 you went over there First, do you remember? 23 A. what time period? 24 Q. Yes. 4s far as what year was (that that you 75 were in school? A. T was 16. Q. Sixteen. BY MS. BILATONTA: Q. Were you a freshman or a sophomore, do you remember? A. 1 couldn't tell you. T couldn't tell you Probably a sephomore. o Now you said that Carolyn told you that he Co en Aan 2 wn Tikes massages. Did she elaborate on what types of 10 massages? ll A. She said sometimes he Vikes topless massages, 12 but you don't have to do anything you don't want to do, 13 He just likes massages. 14 Q. And do you know whether Carolyn had given him 15 Massages? 1G A. Yeah, she said she's done it before. 17 Q. and do you know whether Carolyn had taken any 18 other yirls over to see Jeffrey? 19 A. Yes, she probably did. 20 Q. Did she tell how much you would make? & Page 7 EFTA00592540

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“y2/11/2007 Vi Cas 2 9:08-¢ 21 22 23 24 25 Cc PF ™~N a vw 2 wieN - - - -—- -F§ | S— S&S > vuavbeaeunreée 1 FAX 044/039 v-80736-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 Page 9 of 63 2007-04-25 ME txt A. Yes. what did she tell you? we go there and we make $700 in 30 minutes. YQ. Now you said that vou asked ber, you know, what -- do I need to be worried about aly age. why did you ask her that? A. Gecause 1 don't want to be -- you know, it was like I was underage and T was young and I was pretty stupid and I didn't want to got -- 1 didn’t want to qet in trouble, so T always made sure -- I had a fake ID, anyways, saying that I was 18. And she just said make sure you're 18 because teffrey doesn't want any underage girls, RY AGENT RICHARDS: Q. Now Carolyn, did she -- where did you meet her at? In school? what setting? A. Twas at a Friend's house, my girlfriend's house. I don’t know what girlfricnd’s house it was. Everybody was just hanging out. And she said -- she came up to me and she asked me. She said, do you want to make a couple bucks and IT said sure. Q. And after the first time that she taok you over there to meet Mr. Epstein, did she ever call you again to Page 8 EFTA00592541

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12/1122007 11:51 FAX ase 9:08-cv-80736-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 Page 10 of 63 19 2) ?? 23 24 2s 2o ewervrarsa Wn cep =A aol el oe oe Nu oOo vr &2 wn ee CO 2007-04-75 EEE xr set up any appointments with him or anything like thac? A. Nu. Q. Did she ever call you on the phone is what || asking’ A. No, T gave Jeffrey my number. and 1 said, you know, any time you want me to give you 4 massage again, T')) more than welcome to. BY MS, BILAFONTA: Q. So Carolyn took you that first time, but then after that you communicated directly with Jeffrey? A. Uh-huh. Q. Tell us about that first time thar you went to his house. who -- how did you get there? A. One of Carolyn's friends and they dropped us off and then we went. You know, we got escorted up to the massage room and he told me everything, He said, Listen, 1 like massages. anu we had the whole massage tuble laid out, the lotions and everything. and she was in there for the first like five minutes. and the fiest time I gave him a massage, she left the room and 1 gave him a massage. and she told me, she says he likes women topless massages. So 1 willingly the First time took off my top | I gave him a massage and norhing more than that. It was just a back massage and neck massage and T Page 9 1g 045/033 EFTA00592542

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12/112007 11:51 FAK 046/033 ase 9:08-cv-80736-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 Page 11 of 63 2007-04-25 EE rx = 18 was oul of lhere. 19 Q. Okay. ler me just ask you a couple of 70 follow-up questions. You said that someone escorted you ZL up to the room. Po you know who that was? 22 A. One of -- what's her name? actually, sara, 23 Sara just said, you know, it's up there and she just told 24 me where it was. 25 Q. and then you said that you and Carolyn went 10 & 1 upstairs together? A. Uh-huh, 3 Q. And Carolyn stayed in there for the first tew 4 minutes? 5 A. Uh-huh. 6 Q. Was Jeffrey already in the room hy the time 7 caralyn left? 8 A. yeah, he was in the room. 9 Q. Okay. Was he there when you guys showed up in 10 the room or did he come in after you were already there? ll A. He was in the room already. 12 Q. And you said that you took your top off. did 13 anybody ask you to take it off, like did Caralyn say it's 14 time for you lo Lake it of f? LS A. No, she wasn’t in rhe roam. ® rage 10 EFTA00592543

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12/1308" g\da°ev'd0736-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 Pa 63 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Oo few TD YM awe Noe ~ RF ee =— & =a wn =—- 9 2007-04-25 EE rx Q. By the time you took it of f, vkay. A. 1 said, 1 told Jeffrey, £ heard you like massages topless. And he's Tike, yeah, he said, but you don't have to do anything that you don’t Feel comfortable with. And T said okay, but I willingly took it ott. Q. Okay. and during that first massage, you said that you gave him a shoulder and neck massage? A. Neck, back, shoulder. yeah. Q. Was he face down the entire time that he qot his massage? ll A. Yeah. Q. and what did you do during the massage’ oid you talk or -- A. Yeah, we talked, Q. and what would you talk about with him? A. well, we were just getting to know cach other. we | About how my lifestyle was, what he did for a living and just 217 positive things, really nice things. Q. Okay. What was he wearing when you first came in the room? A. I'm sorry. when he first -- when he first came in the room, he was fully clothed. and then he said, you know, witit a second. I'm going to go on the massage table and he put a towel over him just like a normal Page LL EFTA00592544

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12/11 Root dP 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Nn ww Co an Sf 10 12 ‘$5736-KAM Document 403-3. Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 63 2007-04-25 EEE rxr masseuse would do. Q. Did he undress and put a towel! around him? uh huh. Q. Okay. a. Yeah, T didn’t see anything. It was just back, neck and shoulders. Q. and after the massage was over, you received the $200? A. He gives money eight away. Q. | sorry. was that before you started the massage or after the massage he gave you? 17 A. the First time, he gave me the money right away. Q. Okay. And he's the person that paid you the $2007 A. No, it's always Sara. a. Sara gave you the money? A. Uh-huh, BY AGENT RTCHARDS: Q. What's Sara's Tast name, do you know? A. T don’t know. MR. ETSENBERG: You can't look at papers. it you think you know, you know. Tf you don't kre, -- Page 12 048/099 pate 13 of EFTA00592545

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12/11/2007 11:51 FAX ao4 43/098 ase 9:08-cv-80736-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 Page 14 of 63 2007-04-25 EEE txt e 13 THE WITNESS: No, L don’t know. 1 don't know 14 Sara's last name. He does. 5 BY MS. BILAFONTA: 16 Q. Okay. The only thing | confused about is you 1? said that Sara didn't even take you upstairs. She just 18 told you where you should ga? 19 A. Uh-huh. 20 Q. So when did she pay you the money? 21 A. She paid me then and there when { first walked ?? in the door, me and Carolyn, 23 BY AGENT. RICHARDS: 24 Q. She paid you before you went upstairs? 25 A. Yes. 13 i. BY MS. BILAFONIA: ? Qa. And how much was Carolyn paid? 3 A. Everybody got paid $200. 4 Q. and atter -- So after the Bssave was finished, 5 you said that you had already been paid. who asked you 6 for your name and telephone number? ? A. Jeffrey said, well, || like to see you again, 8 Can I have your numher? From what I remember, || pretty 9 sure he asked me for my number and T gave him my number. 10 Q. Okay. ll GY AGENT RKICHAKDS: & Page 13 EFTA00592546

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12/11/2007 11:52 FAX Case 9:08-cv-80736-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 Pag 63 w x NOD 2007-04-25 EE x7 Q. Did he write it down upstairs? He had a pen handy, T hope? A. Uh-huh, BY MS. BTLAFONLA; Q. On that first massage, you said that you worked on him topless. tut when you first started, did you take -- what were you wearing? A. T was wearing a shirt, a normal shirt and jeans. And I started to do a massage and I said well, I heard you like topless massages. and, of course, he thought I was 18. And he's like yeah, [ do. I prefer that. and who wouldn't, you know? So T said okay and T took it off. Q. and you took otf your bra as well? 14 A. YOSs. Q. And you left your jeans on? A. yes. Q. Okay. So you gave him a massage. Oid he request you do anything special in the massage? A. NO. Q. and he never turned over in that first massage? A. No. Q So you said that that day you gave your name Page 14 eit EFTA00592547

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12/11/2007_ 11:52 051/039 eae b8°v'd0736-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 Pag’ 16 of 63 2007-04-25 ML 1x1 & 10 and number to Jeffrey. when was your next contact from 11 him or anybody who worked for him? 12 A. The next day, he had called me and he satd 13 would like to come out again and I'd like to see you 14 again. I said sure. 1 tuok a (axi there and T went 15 there again. 1G Q. The Following day? 7 A. The next day. 18 Q. Okay. and you said that Jeffrey is the person 19 who called you for that appointment? 20 A. No, Jeffrey did not, ne. Sara, Sacra actually 21 called me. from what T remember, Sara actually called 22 mez, 73 Q. Okay. and she said Jeffrey says he wants to 24 see you again? 25 A. Yes. ® is I Q. and then you said you took a taxt? NM A. Yes. 3 Q. Is that how you would normally get to and trom a his house? 5 A. wUh-huh, if 1 didn't have Friends because I 6 don't drive, yeah. 7 BY AGENT RICHARDS: Q How did you get home the first time when @ : Page 15 an EFTA00592548

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12/1 QQ 9145@vES8736-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 Padf°?#/8P* 63 Ld 1? 14 15 16 17 18 20 21 22 23 24 25 7007-04-25 rx carolyn took you over? Did she get a taxi? A. No, our friend came back and picked us up. Q. which friend was that? A. His name was Brian. I don't know his last name. L£ really didn't know Carolyn and I didn’t know her friends or whatever, but I met Jeffrey. and once 1 met Jeffrey, he was a very awesome guy and T just -- I don't know. I ended up giving him my number so T could -- 1 didn't want Carolyn or Brian to drive me anymore. T would rather go to him on my own, #Y MS. BILAFONTA: Q. when you would take the taxis to and from, would he |_| for them? Uh-huh, Q. And he would pay when you arrived? uh-huh. Q And then he would just give you extra money 16 when you left to pay for the taxi? A. NO, no T never asked him tor extra money, so T just paid for my own taxi. Q. Okay. So From the money that he paid you for the massage? a. two hundred, yeah. Page 16 EFTA00592549

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12/11/2007 11:52 FAK p E286 9'08-cv'60736-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 Pad@'is’oh* 63 2007-04-75 EE tx" e 7 Q. where were you living at the time? 8 a Lwalivngs im 1's 9 located on Okeechobce. So T would take, you know, 10 straight Okeechobee down to where T lived. ii Q. Ov you remember about how much that taxi fare 12 was cach way? 13 A, Twenty dollars. 14 Q. And did you always use the same taxi service is or -- 16 A. No, I used different taxis all the time, so -- 17 Q. And you would just call and have them come to 18 your house? 19 A. Uh-huh. TI used a whole bunch of different 20 taxis, whatever is available. 21 Q. So you mentioned that the second massage, was ; 22 it any difterent than the First one? r 23 A. Yes. 24 Q. How was it different? 75 A. when I went there, IT went there by myself. And 17 1 1 went up to the massage room and Jeffrey was just like 2 regular like he was before on his stomach and he had a 3 towel! over and we started the massage and I had my top 4 off willingly. And afver the massage, he asks me the 5 whole time. He says, Are you comfortable with me doing r Page 17 EFTA00592550

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12/11/200 33 Z 5 386 '9:bb-v-88736-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 Pag@ 146 63 e 2007-04-25 EE tx: G this and TI said yes and he curned around. And this was 7 Tike at che end of the massage. our 30-minules massage, 8 usually it was even shorter than that. And he 9 masturbated at the cnd of the massage and it was like two 10 seconds and 1 was just cop fi. 11 Q. and when he turned over, then did he touch you 12 at all or was he just -- 13 A. No, T did not touch him. He did not touch me. 14 He didn’t even want ~-- 15 Q. You didn't like continue the massage while he 16 was masturbating or anything? 17 A. No. 18 Q. Okay. T cut you off. You said he didn't even? i) A. He didn't want me to touch him and he didn't 20 touch me at all. 2 21 0. Did he ever ask you to rub his chest or cub his 22 nipples during the massage? 23 A. Actually, Tater on -- because I saw him for a 24 long time. Later on, I asked him, you know, and I asked 25 him -- 1 would give him -- you know, I would rub his 18 nF chest or whatever and massage him while he was ? masturbating, yeah. 3 Q. Su eventually you would continue the massaye & Page 18 EFTA00592551

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12/11£2007 14-53 lertes giderev' w 83736-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 Pa 63 2007 04 25 HB ix: and he would masturbare at the same time? A. Yeah, but it wasn't on his Jower area. Q. No, you never touched his penis? A. Right. Q. Okay. So that was during the second massage. You were paid $200 again? A. Always. Q. Always? tvery time you went there? A. Always. BY AGENT RICHARDS: Q. Was it always Sara that paid you? A. Sometimes Jeffrey would and sometimes Sara would. BY MS. BLLAFONLA: Q. was it usually before or after the massage? A. After the first time, it was always after. I would go downstairs and T'd get paid. Q. So just sort of tell us, when a massage ended, which I assume was after he ejaculated? A. Tt wasn't all the time that he did, though. Q. Okay. A. Tt wasn't like every time we went there he 19 released. Sometimes he just wanted his feet massaged. Sometimes he just wanted a back massage. Page 19 EFTA00592552

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12/10/288'9-b8 §3,-80736-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 Pag 2Y7%9 63 10 11 12 13 \4 iB) 16 i? 18 19 20 22 23 24 25 2007-04-25 HE. xr Q. Okay. #ut when the massage was over however it ended, you would just get dressed and go downstairs by yourself or did take you downstairs? A. Yeah. the chef would make us food and it'd be great. and Jeffrey would get dressed and he'd come down with us sometimes or, you know, it wasn't -- we had fun. Tt was all positive. Q. Okay. Wow many massages do you think that you gave Jeffrey? A. 1 gave Jeffrey a lot of massages. T can't tell you. I saw him fur a good year. Q. and how many times -- would you see him weckly or more than once a week? a. Yeah. Q. More than once a week? A. I personally would or i'd bring girls. Q. Okay. sut either you would or either a girl that you brought? A. Yeah, uh-huh, Q. Okay. A. But after a while, it wasn't me anymore. I had brought girls, but T got paid $200 to bring girls. Q. Okay. So let's talk just about when you were 20 Page 20 EFTA00592553

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12/ 11280F glhg88\F85736-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 Paft°53/8?8 63 10 11 12 13 14 1s 16 17 18 19 20 71 22 23 24 25 performing the masseeee. at vores of things would happen? You said that sometimes he would just like his feet massaged. what clse would happen during those massage sessions? A, Nothing. tverything I told you. Q. Okay. SO sometimes a back massage? A. Sometimes he liked back massages. Sometimes he like feet massages. Sometimes he like his head massaged. He liked his head massaged a lot. ‘Sometimes leg massages, yeah, And it wasn't every time that we went there he masturbated. 9. Okay. Any idea half and half or less than half the time that he masturbated? A. Less the time he masturbated. Q. Did you always perform topless? oid you ever get completely naked towards the end or in the middle and remove all of your clothing? A. I would wear panties. willingly one time because we were making jokes and everything and willingly one time £ had, yes, I was totally nude, but T was fine with it. Q. Okay. A Totally fine with it. Q. And how did that massage go? A Actually, it was a foot massage and he was page 21 EFTA00592554

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12/114290.7914a5@\£88736-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 Pad#°24/S?9 63 @ 2007-04-25 EB x: nt 1 sitting on the couch. we didn't even have the massage 2 tuble out and T gave him a Foot rub and I was nude. 3 Q. And how much were you paid for that? 4 A. two hundred every single time, 5 Q. pid he at any point kiss you. Louch you, show 6 any kind of affection towards you? 7 A. Never, never. 5 Q. Okay. 9 BY AGENT RICHARDS: 0 Q. why not? Ll A. why not? why would he? 12 Q. you seem like a nice young lady, attractive. 13 He never had any urges to -~ 14 A. I asked him, 1 said, when are you going to get @ 1s married? When are you going to get married, Jeffrey? He 16 said, I'm never getting married. He has, you know, 17 beautiful women all the time. why would he -- no, 18 huh-uh. 19 BY MS. BILAFONIA: 20 Q. He never pulled you closer to him in a sexual 21 way? 2? A. I wish. No, no, never, ever, ever, no, never. 23 Jeffrey is an awesome man, no. 24 Qo. Okay. Now you said that at some point you 25 started bringing other girls over? r page 22 EFTA00592555

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12/114 2097 ot hg848736-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 Pad@34/8P9 63 e 2007-04 25 ME. txt a2 1 Uh-huh. 2 Now did that stare? 3 A. He likes to see different faces. 4 9. so he asked you if you had Friends that you 5 could bring ever or other girls? 6 A. th- hub. ? Q. And how did you decide who you would ask to 8 come over? 9 A. All of my good-looking girlfriends and if they 10 had friends. It's all abour, you know, we were just 11 making moncy and Jcfftrey is an awesome quy. We just, you 1? know -- ( would tel! my girlfriends just like Carolyn 13 approached me, Make sure you tell him you're 18. well, e > these girls that L brought, L know that they were 18 or 1s 19 or 20. And the girls that t didn’t know and T don't 16 know if they were lying or not, I would say make sure 17 that you tell him you're JS. 18 Q. Okay. what exactly would you tell them about 19 what would happen after you got to the house? 20 A. 1 said he Jikes massages, but he prefers 21 topless massages. 8ut if you're nut comfortable, then 22 don't do it and it won't matter. 23 Q. and did any of them tell you what happened 24 after that? 25 A. Always, always, 1 even asked them. @ rage 25 EFTA00592556

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12/10/2881 Hg 54,80736-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 Padfl FS 4}°9 63 Ww Ne on TD wv il 42 @ : 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 ra 22 23 24 2007-03-25 EE. ix: 23 Q. Okay. And with the other girls, was it the same as whal you did or different? A. Yeah, yeah. T mean, well, 4 was more willingly to do more, you know, Like I said, T went nude for him one time. but the other girls, they practically were topless and that's all that they were willing to do. Some girls didn't want to go topless and jeffrey didn't mind, Q. were there girls that you brought back multiple Times? A. A couple, a couple, but he really liked to see different faces. Q. Okay. I'm just wondering are there some girls he really liked and others he didn't like or did he have any preferences in terms of blondes, brunettes? A. He liked girls like me. Q. Okay. Thin and attractive? A. T guess. Yeah, very attractive women. And he didn't say girls. He said women a1] the time, Q. Did you ever bring anybody he didn't care for? A. Huh-uh. Q. yeah? A. Yeah, Q. jtow was she different than the others? a. black. 1 screwed up. Page 24 EFTA00592557

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12/1207 q14a54vF48736-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 Pad@Sé/SP 63 an FAN fe we ON Re 2 ee I Sey aAaunsSB KHRE Sew 20 21 22 23 ed 25 2007-04-25 HE +x 24 Q. How did you know you screwed up? A. He doesn't like black women, obviously. Q. Se he Jet you know? He told you that? A. Yeah, bur he was still nice and he srill gave her her 200 even though he didn't even have a massage by her. Q. How did he -- he paid you $200 for bringing each girl? A. Ub-bub. Q. And when he told you that, I mean, that’s what he told you that he would | you $200 for bringing rhe girls? Ae yeah. we said if you bring me -- if you bring me girls, I'll definitely, you know, give you money, compensate you for your time and willing to do that for me, yeah. Q. and you said at that point you stopped performing massages for him? A. At. that point, 1 didn’t -- it would be sporadically like. Usually, I had so many girlfriends at the time that, you know, there were some new Faces lo be, saw, And if no one was available, then THwould go. Q. I got you. So -- Q. Do you know some of the girls that you brought, Page 75 EFTA00592558

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12/1 42807 glda54vld8736-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 Padt"S3/8F® 63 oe ve on - - e e — 10 i 13 14 1S 16 1? 15 19 20 rat 22 2a 7007-04-75 BE rx some of the their names? A. I don't remember, really. ‘they were like not even friends. They were just associates, you know. If anything, | | be friends of friends, so no. a We have -- I don't know. We have some messages I guess that some girls" names that would call Jeffrey and leave a massage. There's some girls names that are referenced. we were just wondering if you knew them? A. If you name them, T can probably remember. MS. BILAFONIA: Jason, do you have that? BY AGENT RICHARDS: Q. VE is onc. A. 1 don't know vi. 00 you know her last name? MS. BILAFONIA;: We were hoping you did. THE WITNESS: No, IT don't. BY AGENT RICHARDS: o. TP A. ‘HEE’ no, that sounds like a black girl's name. Gy Well, you brought a black girl. what was her nami? A. T don't know. von't ask me. Q. sip Paye 70 EFTA00592559

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12/1 428879 14854, '80736-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 Pad& S3/sP® 63 10 dl 12 13 14 16 2007_04 25 BE ix: s. Sm Gitiel” yooh, t brought sm 26 Q. who is she? rel} us about si a. SB we Jook just alike, if that's the girl i'm thinking about. We went to schoo] together and I brought her one time and then she ended up moving so she coulda’t come with me. Q. were you guys in the same grade or -- A. No, she was older than me. Q. A year or two? A. she was -- Actvally, she was like 18. I don't know. she was older. She was like, you know, two ranks, two grades ahead of me. Q. So when you were a sophomore, she was a senior? A. I just met her in school and I told her. BY MS. BILAFONIA: Q. What was her last name? A. T don't know. BY AGENT RICHARDS: Q, Do you know where she lived? A. I just met her in school and I told her about it, Q. You told her about it at school? its thot where your discussion was or -- a. well, I said give me your number. T said you can make a couple of dollars. It's real easy. and if Page 27 EFTA00592560

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12/1 20079 4}854/4736-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 Pag®%S4/988 63 i 24 25 2007 -04-25 SB x you're comfortable with it, give me a call. WAS? thar, Q. was that at schoo! or at a party? A. No, at school. Q. At school. You're not sure what hee last name A. T have no idea. 9. 00 you know where she || or anything like what car she drove? . No. what'd she look like? what she looked like? Yeah. > &£ PB > Like me, everything, blonde hair, blue eyes. (Start Side f& of tape.) AGENT RICHARDS: Time recorder is being restarted is approximately 4:50 |_| BY MS. BILAFONIA: ME 489) 2c che timc? Q. We were talking about SQ vou were ac A. NO, T was at Q. A. And that's where $ went to school. Q. what about a girl oP Pag EFTA00592561

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12/11€QR27 916856vEAS736-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 Pad@S6/989 63 22 23 24 ovo en nv BB wN BR Nn —- & = Ke we KR oo ese2& VA SDERRE S 2007-04-25 GE xr A, oa who? GY AGENT RICHARDS: v. oid you bring a oi A. 1 brought a couple oa. 28 Q. I want to know about every one you brought. A. well, one of them died recently, so -- Q. what was her name? In a car accident or something? A. NO, She a. unfortunately, she got shot in the head. You guys probably heard it on the news. She got shot in the head by this guy. £ don’t want to even talk about it because I'1) cry. BY MS, BLLAPONIA: QO. Let's talk about the other eR A. t don’t even know. I don't know, I don't know. There were some girls that just L would take one time and then J would never talk to again, so I don't know. Q. How many girls do you think you brought to Jeffrey's house? A. That's a good question. I bring a lot, like maybe I don't know, maybe 30, maybe 30. it was all about the money to me at that time. Q. Now any of the girls that you brought, did any Page 29 EFTA00592562

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12/1142007 91485888736-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 Padft°S4/8P° 63 & 2007-04-25 EE rxr 2) of them leave their names and numbers and then they would 2? get appointments directly trom Jeffrey or did they always 23 go through you? 2a A. they went through me, hopefully. 25 Q. So you don't know? 29 1 BY AGENT RICHARDS: ? Q. You weren't getting paid, right? 3 Aa. I told them, T said, Don't give him your 2 4 number. 7 BY MS. BILAFONIA: 6 Q. if you brought the same girl more than once, ? would you get paid each time you brought them or just get 8 the initial $2007 9 A. Every single time I brought a girl, okay, or 1 10 referred a girl, T always got $200, always. 1 Q. Even if she came a second time? 12 A. yes. 13 Q. you would get $200 every time she came? 14 A. Yes. 15 qQ. Good deal. Okay. what abour COG 16 a. Cf wor 17 Q. any CR chat you brought to me. rpstein’s 16 house. @ Page 30 EFTA00592563

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12/1 428879 8 53, 48736-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 Pag@ 639° 63 - WN = “ con DT 7007-04-25 1X1 1 brought a © w HR hE wrere did she go to school? She didn*t go Lo school. Okay. iow did you know cP . ii been my -- she's my friend in the past. How did 1 meet CA, at a party or she was my -- Actually, she was my baby's father's girlfriend at the > 2B PP & > 30 time and I met her at a party. Q. You asked her if she'd be willing to go to Jeffrey's housc? A. Uh-huh, Q. And when -- do you remember when that would have been? A. Actually, a couple weeks, a couple weeks. 1 do remember her. A couple weeks after IT met him, Q. So you brought her pretty soon after you met Jeffrey? A. uh-huh, Q. And how old was . CG A. Seventeen, 17. Q. And what happened when you brought CIP A The same thing. Q. Okay. well. I know that sometimes you said that the girls would tell you what happened? Page 31 EFTA00592564

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12/1428079}4858,F45736-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 Pad #4/3#* 63 & 2007-04-25 J or 18 A. She went in there, She had a massage -- she 19 gave a massage on his back. She went a couple times. He 70 liked her. she went a couple times. The first time she 2] told me that. he didn't it was just like me the first 22 time. He didn't climax at all, nothing happened, It was 23 just a massage. And then she went, 1 think, like two 24 times after that. And yeah, he masturbated, but no 25 touching. She didn't -- there's no touching of him. No 31 ® 1 touching of her. None of my girls ever had a problem and 2 | call me. | | beg me, you know, for us to go to 3 Jeffrey's house because they love Jeffrey. Jeffrey is a a respectful man. He really is. I mean, and he al} 5 thought we were of age, always. this is what's so sad 6 about 1T. 7 Q. How would -- how would you make appointments 8 for girls to go over therc? 9 Aa. a call them and chef say hi, do you want to LO go to Jeffrey's house? and | | say yes or nn and | | 4a call a taxi. 1? Q. How would you know when teffrey was going to be 13 in town? 14 A. | | Jeffrey was in Lown, Sara would cal} me. 15 Q. Did she always call when they were already in & Page 32 EFTA00592565

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12/1/38879 198.45, 40736-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 Pad °F 4#98 63 2007-04-25 EER rxr Lown or would she -- how far in advance would she call you? A. They only called me when they were in Palm Beach. They never called me From anywhere. They've never called me from anywhere else. Tt was always when I was in Palm Beach. They'd say hi, we're down here. If you want to come and see Jeffrey, you're more than welcome to, Q. So you wouldn't have like a specific time when you would go over, like be here at 11 or be here at two? 32 A. well, I'd tell them, I'd say -- well, T mean, I'd have to work around his schedule. He'd have to work around mine. Yeah, we'd say T'1) be there ar three. I'll be there at four, whatever. Q. Do you -- I know that you said you talked to sara on the phone. was there anybody clse that you would talk to on the phone? A. Lt Jettrey wasn’t there like if i*d call him to see how he was doing or whatever, you know, he had -- his chef would answer the phone. His maid would answer the phone. That's -- Q. But was Sara the only one you talked to about making appointments? A. Uh-huh, yeah. Well, yeah. if Jeffrey wasn't Page 33 EFTA00592566

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12/1 42007 914858 /F48736-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 Pad#%38/SP* 63 16 17 13 19 20 i 22 73 24 25 2007-04-25 HE rx: available, mz. you know, he said, the chef or you know, whoever, said Jeffrey will get hack to you. Yeah, Sara made che appoinunencs. Q. So when you were calling to talk to Jeffrey, you were calling the house phone over in Palm Reach? A. Uh-huh, yeah. Q. And how often would you talk to Jeffrey on the phone as opposed to talking to one of his assistants? A. Me and Jeffrey hardly ever talked on the phone. He was always busy. It was mostly Sara, we'd talk when 1 would get there, you know. So it was Vike hey, do you 33 want to come in? Yes, cool, you know. Come i. no, cool, bye. Q. Do you know someone who works for Jeffrey named =: A. I think I met her one time. Q. And what do you know about her? A. She was therc. and the person | i think, | Not positive, okay. I'm pretty sure she said that she's from New York and she travels with Jetfrey, but 1 think T met her one time, if thac’s the girl that rings the bel], you know, in my head. Nadia T think is that one person T met one time. Page 34 EFTA00592567

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12/1 42007 oJga58y£48736-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 Pad#%Jé/P® 63 & 13 Q. Now you Peas pag —_— toaced Jeffrey about 14 whether he was getting married. Did you ever know him lo 15 have a girltriend or a steady? 16 A. No, he told me he's never been married. He's 17 never had a girlfriend and he doesn't want to have a 18 girltriend. 19 Q. were you ever asked to bring a girl for someone 20 else like to give a massage to somebody cise or to anyone 21 other than Jeffrey? 22 A. NO. TI gave Sara a massage before. 23 Q. and how A did that happen? 24 A. 1 only gave Sara a massage like once or twice, 25 once or twice, not that often. @ 34 1 Q. But anybody else, either any friends that were 2 in town or -- 3 A. No. See, my mother is a masseuse and I have 4 experience massaging and he always liked my massages. So 5 he told Sara about my massages and she said, yeah, 1 want 6 a massage so T'd go over there. T think if was one or bi two times and IL gave her a massage. 8 Q. Now when the girls were upstairs with Jeffrey 9 jn the bedroom, what would you do? 10 A. the chef would make me carved tomatoes, put ll some crab meat in it and i'd just eat, wine and dine. TH € rage 35 EFTA00592568

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12/1288 Ys 54, 80736-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 Padfl F788 63 @ 2007-04-25 ERE os v2 was wonderful, great. 13 Q. And when you would talk to the chef -- i4 A. ves. 15 Q. -- would anybody else from the house be there? 16 A. yes. 1 don't know their names. I can't 17 remember. There were like all these foreign girls from 18 -- like they're beautiful, beautiful models that are from 19 different -- they have accents. And no, but it was real 20 interesting because we'd talk. And, you know, | Tearn 21 a Jot from them and | learn a tot from me just being 22 american, and ne, every time T went there it was a good 23 time. And T vsually just are or || go and suntan or 24 something near the poo), 25 Q. And how long you would the other girl be 35 pS upstairs normally? 2 A. twenty, 25, 20 to 30 minutes. 3 BY AGENT RICHARDS: 4 q. Hack vo CR oA is there anything else about her that you can remember? You were friends with “ her, She went three times, you think? Did she go back without going through you to set up any appointments that you Knuw about? wo on fe A. I don’t know. _ Page 36 EFTA00592569

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12/1 : 21 3889s 8V-88736-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 Pag@ 4982 63 10 ii 12 13 14 16 Vv 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 a WN “ 2007-04-25 Q. Okay. were there | that you broughl? T know you brought other 6M or multiple —, A. Yeah. I don't know. Tf you would say like a last name, then 1 would probably remember, but I don'r, Q. any cir Did you bring a Gi? a. GER yean, that sounds familiar. yeah, of eM yeah. a A. uh-huh. QQ. What can you tel) me about her? How old was A. She‘s older than me, Q. bo you know her from school or -- A. No. Where did J mect her? IT met her in my neighborhood and I asked her if she wanted to go and yeah, oH. She was only there one time, though. Q. Did she tel? you how it went with him upstairs? Yeah. Q. what'd she say? a. She said -- she's like ah, I don’t know. Q. She freaked out or something? A. No, no, but he didn't want her again. te likes Tall, slender and she was like shorr. Paye 37 EFTA00592570

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12/1 #28879 49858/'49736-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 Pag@J4/dP* 63 10 ll 12 13 4 1s 16 17 18 19 20 2L 22 23 24 2007-04 25 ER txt Q. what did she say abou! him? A. She had fun. Q. She had fun? A. uh-huh. Q. What did she say happened up there? A. She was topless and just gave a massage. He didn't, you know, climax or anything. BY MS. BIIAFONIA: Q. Did you ever, either when you gave him a massage or any of the girls, did you ever use a big back massager or it was only manual massaqc? A. No, it was only my hands, we never used anything clse. Q. Now when you were working for him, when you were going over to Jeffrey's house to give massages, did you have a boyfriend? A. Yeah, yeah. 37 Q. okay. How did he tee] oahout you going to Jeffrey's house? A. He was a jealous little boy, but he didn’t care. Bring home the bacon. Q. what's your boyfriends? Page 38 EFTA00592571

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12/11/2007 11:56 FAX ~N Case 9:08-cv-80736-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 63 2007-04-25 ER. xr Q. Now T know you that you mentioned thal you had a baby. ts that the baby's father? A. No, no, thank God. Q. who is the baby's father? ;. a Z- Q. okay, 33 SHH. 4nd were you sti71 going to Jeffrey's when you were pregnant? A. I would bring girls there when T was pregnant. Q. So did -- so did yO have concerns about what you were doing at Jeffrey's house? A. no, he talked to Jeffrey over the phone. Jeffrey actually threw me my baby shower and he got me furniture and a nice rattle for my son and just really nice things, I love mommy frames, Q. Was the shower at his house and did he attend? A. NO, no, at my house, at my house. And no, Jeffrey wasn't there. He just sent Sara to bring me gifts for the baby. Q. Oh, okay. 38 BY AGENT RICHARDS: Q. vid I ever go over there with you? NO. He stayed away. > &£ > No, he didn*r go, no. Page 39 EFTA00592572

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WZ/11/2007 11-57 F Case 9'08°cv'd0736-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 Padt"d# 63 woaen nan ll 12 13 14 1s 16 7 18 19 20 2 21 22 23 25 2007-04-25 RD txt BY MS. RT! AFONIA: a. oid jeffrey ask you about boyfriends? 1 mean, was he curious about -- A. Yeuh, we always talked about everything, yeah. Do you have a boyfriend, yeah, no, you know. we talked like triends. I don't know. Just about our lite storics. You know, he probably knows my whole life story. BY AGENT RICHARDS: Q. Now do you $ti71 have contact with him or A. who? Q. jeffrey. a. No, no one's allowing me. BY MS. RTLAFONTA: Q. bid he know that you wanted to be a model or That's what you were aspiring to be? A. yes, I told him. Yes, I've always wanted to be a model, yes. Q. Nid he ever say || help you? A, uh-huh, yeah. and 4 was ~~ like I said, 1 was 33 16 at the time and r felt -- like he said, you know, you can -~ I will definitely take you and bring you to New york and everything because he had models there, but T Page 40 oss 8 EFTA00592573

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12/1 142207 gldgeavldh736-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 Pag@%43/8PS 63 & 4 always turned it dam bacmase T was ue and I didn’t want 5 thal to get our. 6 Q. what did you say to him? How did you put him i off? 8 A. I don't know. Oh, well, 1 don't know. No, he 9 wasn't like begging me or anything. He asked me a couple 10 times and { said -- £ just -- there was like no say ubout ll it. a just -- I didn't go. and it wasn't like he usked 12 me All rhe time. He just it's a couple times he asked. 13 He said 1'11 bring you to New York or whatever we do and 14 we can, you know, try to fulfill your dreams, but I 5 always said no because £1 was young and I didn't want to 16 screw up the 18 thing. 17 Q. Did -- when you got pregnant, did he react in 18 any way? T mean, did he tell you if you want to be a 19 model, you know, this is going to mess with your chances & 20 as a model or offer any -- 21 A. No. 22 a. I'm wondering Tike how much was he giving you 23 advice? tow much stuff were you really -- what did you 24 talk about? 25 A. After the baby, we didn’t really even talk. T 40 ' was 1 was totally -- I ch. you know, I was a bad 2 little girl and 1 totally changed. My whole lite & Page 41 EFTA00592574

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tgsiis2uur tics Case 9:08-c vo 2 woaonw AX 2007 04-25 FE pa changed. A couple times after 1 had the baby, 1 brought a couple girls there. It was like two times. and then me and jcffrey really stopped talking. we just siopped talking. 7 had my own life and he had his, so 1 don't know, BY AGENT RICHARDS: Q. bid he ever make any arrangements knowing that you wanted to be a model or were modcling? He has a lot of connections with photographers and stuff. I mean, did he ever sel up any photo shoots or anything like that? A. No, No, because he asked me if I would like to qo to pursue what f wanted to do, but like 1 said, for the second time -- Q. J mean in town here, not to travel to New York for a shoot or anything? A. NO. Wo, because T always like stood back from that because 1 didn't want him to know that T was 16. BY MS, BILAFONTA: Q. bid you ever get money from Jeffrey when you didn’t either give a massage or bring a girl over? A. Yes. Q. Okay. when did that happen? A. I had to pay rent and I was late on my rent. 4l rage 42 v-80736-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 Pag@ 9t#4?93 63 EFTA00592575

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12/1 42881919850 '88736-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 Pad@ W488 63 ose NO WwW eae NS KE Vv NN NN NY Oe Be KF eRe ee ee vuaunreoaoebBiaks SiES 2007 04 25 TXT This was before the baby. And 1 asked him -- 1 asked him for like 300. He gave me $500. | don’t -- T couldn't tell you how £ got it. Tf anything, I think I went to the house and got it, QO. was he there || you went to get the money? A. NO, 0. Do you know was he in town or did you call him? A. I don't even -- 1 can't remember, but I just remember he did give me $500 for rent. Q. was thal the only time that he gave you money that wasn't connected either to a massage or to bringing a girl? A. He bought gifis for the baby shower. Tf can't remember now. Not off the top of my head, no. T never asked him for anything because I just felt -- || not Vike that, you know. i'm not a user and L'm not -- I don't like that. T've never asked him for money, so -- Q. what about presents, either birthday presents? You mentioned gifts tor the baby. Any other gifts that he gave you? A. Yeah, he gave me a -- he had went to Brazil and he came back with a whole bunch of bikinis and he told me To choose one, so T chose one. Qa Any other gifts, Christmastime or birthdays or anything like that? rage 43 EFTA00592576

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12/1 U28879.H848736-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 Pad@ 9438 63 > ww al 2007-04-25 EE tx: 42 A. No. Q. pid he qive any of your Friends that you brought gifts? A. Yeah, the girl who died, BR. ve gave her a bathing suit, too, from Brazil. Q. We have some telephone numbers that we wanted to ask you about. BY AGENT RICHARDS: Q. Just to see if you recognize these or if you ever used any of these numbers that might have been old telephone numbers for you at some point. T don’t know how niany cell phones you may have had through the years. see if you recognize any of those. 4. [ERR was my cunber. BY MS. BILAFONIA: What was J's number? a <’ Yeah. What. my baby’s father? o > & >? & Yeah. A. Oh, T never knew his. Always T just, you know, called him and I never knew his number. BY AGENT RICHARDS: Q. It was progrummed in your phone? A. Yeah. So s don't know, T just know Page 44 EFTA00592577

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12/1 4288%9. 358, /d01736-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 Pad@ %3 4998 63 r 2007-04-25 [EE 1x7 43 1 because that was my old number like a long time ayo. 2 BY MS, BILAFONIA: 3 Q. at the time that you were bringing girls over 4 to the house, were you also working a regular job? 5 A. 1 worked at City Pizza for a littic while, but 6 no, kind of retired and splurqed. T didn’t have any 7 hills to pay. I saved. I put money in the bank, so -- 8 Q. We had talked about Ci wi betore. vo 9 you know someone namcd Ci EP? 10 a. Ci UB vb pub. 11 Q. and who is that? 1? A. TI brought her a couple times. who is that? 13 Q. T mean, did you go to school with her or how #£ 14 did you know her? M5 A. Oh, I had asked onc of my friends. 1 said do 16 you have any -- It was a guy friend. I said do you have 17 any girls that are willing ro give massages and I met up 18 with her. & called her. JT talked to her on the phone. 19 tl met up with her and she said yeah, cool. 20 Q. and you said you took her over there a couple 21 of times? 22 A. Yeah, she went over there more. She went over 23 there more than a couple times. 24 Q. Rut you brought her every time thar she went 25 over there? & Page 45 EFTA00592578.

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W2/1 382 "9\de°8!d8736-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 Pad #74993 63 2007 04-25 ER rxr 44 A. That I know of. That I know of, yeah. Q. Okay. Did you ever tell any of the girls that they would be going over to modcl lingerie? A. NO. T told them we were going to yo Jeffrey's house and it's going to be a topless massage pretty much, Anything you don't want to do, you don’t have to do and it's $200, badda-bing, badda-boom. You make $700 in 30 minutes. Q. Did any of the girls complain about what happened after they left there? A. No. You asked me that question. No, everybody loved Jeffrey. yg. No one called you and said, I think that you should cat} -- 1 think that we should call the police? A. NO. Q. No one told you that? A. No, no, oh, my God. and who is that coming From? Q. we just have phone calls that scem Lo contradict what you're telling us? A. Oh, so you think that people came to me and said that T'm to call the police on Jeffrey? BY AGENT RICHARDS: Q. was there anyone that thought that what mr. Epstein was doing was inappropriate and was concerned Page 4G EFTA00592579

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12/1 U28819 Ys 58'40736-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 Pag@ 0R3 £139 63 wu le onus OM fA 10 12 13 1a 1s 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 2007-04-25 QR xt about that? a. Every girl that I brought to Jeffrey, they said they were Fine with it. And like, for instance, Ci -- CH MB, a tot of giris begged me to bring them back. They wanted to come back for the money. And as far as J know, we all had fun there. we ate all the food. He gave us free bikinis. No, nothing about any cops. Q. I mean, was there anyone that thought what he was doing may have been a Tittle bit wrong? Not wanting to report to the police, but just saying, you know, that's kind of weird? A. we talked about it like because we were underage, but he thought that we were 18. We were like hopefully that no one finds out. Hopefully, Jeffrey doesn’t find out our age. But other than that, not calling the cops. BY MS. BTLAFONTA: Q. was anybody upset that he was masturbating? I know that you said you told them that they would possibly do the massage topless. They might have expected that. Was somebody shocked -- A. yeah, of course. I mean, he always told them, okay, and J told them, too. I said if you're going to go there, then you don't have to do anything that you're not Page 47 EFTA00592580

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12/11/2007 5 ¥388"0:b8°848736-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 Pad@! 944999 63 " =a Ww NY Ee 0 aN DD 2007 04-25 RR xr 46 comfortable with, A couple girls when they did come out of there, they're like oh, my God, T wasn't cxpecting a1] of that, bur he always asked them and I asked them. they'd say that, you know, he asked me arc you comfortable with this and | | say yes. Maybe they were scarcd, who knows. But yeah, they came out of there like oh, my God, that was kind of weird, you know, yeah. Q. were any of them upset about it? A. Do they like regret it or something? BY AGENT RICHARDS: Q. Just shaken up, you know, just kind of shocked? A. & couple of giris -- well, see, we were so young and Jeffrey didn’t know thut. Like the whole thing was shooken up when T brought them there. And see, 1 don't know. Tf thought that they were, you know, most of the girls that 1 did bring there, they were 18, 19, 20. But I remember there was a couple times that I had brought like maybe LO year olds or something, my age. and they -- L don't know, It's like they were scared to Say that they were 18. They were like what if he finds oul? and they were a Tittle shook wp about that, the age thing. But and afLerwards like if he climaxed or whatever, if they were like shooken up, | like it's okay, you know, and they were like oh, T wasn’t Page 48 EFTA00592581

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12/1 007 - 1388 "9-b8.8,-88%36-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 Pag 8854? 63 @ : vw fF ew NN weoewva ll 12 13 14 15 16 7 18 19 70 21 22 eo ° 2007 04-25 bern expecting that, but they told leflrey that, you know, a? they were comtortable with it. Tf anything, you know, maybe they were scared and they felt Tike obligated, like they didn't want to say, T was thinking that they didn't want to say like no, you know, 1 don't want to do that, so who knows. 1 wasn’t up there with them, so I couldn't tell you. BY AGENT RTCHARDS: Q. who were the ladies who mentioned that to you who were kind of shocked? A. Usually, the girls that I would bring like one time and I wouldn'| even sce them again. Q. Can you help me out with some names, though? A. Huh-uh, no. 1 can't remember her name. she's on the top of my - oh, my God, I don't remember. f can't remember. BY MS. RILAFONLA: Q. None of the girls wanted to go ta the authorities? Nobody was that upset chat called you or spoke to you that was upset with what had happened to the point that they wanted to report it? A. No, no. If anything, thank you, TR. so much because I really could use the money. BY AGENT RICHARDS; Page 49 EFTA00592582

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12/1 14229 914858\F88736-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 Pafft°84/8P8 63 gS 2007-04-25 EE. rx 24 a: bo you know the names of some of the girls that 75 you brought? 48 1 A. Huh? 2 Q. bo you know the name of some of the girls you 3 brought other than the ones that we've talked about right 4 now? 5 A. Like L said, I can't remember because usually & 6 there -- 7 Q. There's about 30 of them, so you've got to 8 know -- 9 A, No, I don't know because there were girls that 10 I didn’t | | know so, you know. T just asked them, T 1 said, Hey, would you Vike to make some money? Here's my 12 number. Do you want to i. money? Here's my number, 13 you know, and that's how it went. So T don’t remember “4 the names and I realty didn't care to know their names, is anyway. 16 Q. Do you know their phone numbers? 17 A. Now? 18 Q. Yeah. 19 A. No. 20 Q. Do you know any of their phone numbers? 21 A. No, nO, no. That was years age, & Paye 50 EFTA00592583

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12/11/2007. 11-59 F. U388"9-U858736-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 Pad@l $3482 63 2007-04-25 err ; 2? Q. we're just trying to find any other ladies out 23 there thar we haven't already seen and you brought 30 of 24 them and we're just trying to 25 A. t don’t know if T brought 30 of them. 49 Q. Approximate? A. Yeah, No, IT have no cluc, no idea. RY MS. BLLAFONTIA: a wn Q. Did you stay in touch with any of the girls “ that you brought? 6 A. Huh-uh. 7 Q. . Ff J any of the girls that we've 8 talked about? Did you ever when you were cither bringing 9 girls or when you were giving massages, did you ever 10 drink anything or take any drugs, whether it was 11 prescription drugs? 12 A. T heard this on the news, no. It's ridiculous. 13 Q. You never took any drugs? 14 A. Never. 4S Q. Did any of the girls take drugs? Did you know 16 that they were talking drugs? 17 A. There was no alcohol. there was no drugs, no. 18 Q. None of the girls that you brought were using 19 drugs? 20 A. No. Page 51 EFTA00592584

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12/1142007.11° “E3007 914858\'4736-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 Pad&%98/9P3 63 a1 22 23 24 2s w Co Pn nv -s 10 uu 12 13 14 15 16 7 18 2007-04-75 J no Q. and just so you know, THEE we're not talking about necessarily crack cocaine. we're wondering if anybody was taking any prescription medication? A. 1 don't know if they were taking prescription medication. That's their problem, I don't know. so Q. And you didn't give anybody else any prescription drugs? A. No, no. when I was 16, T smoked pot, but no. (start of Tape 2.) . MR. EISENBERG: Okay, gang, buck on the record, and L assume you mean prescription medication not tor prescription purposes? THC WITNESS: I thought you meant like for prescription, prescribed. No, I don’t knew. AGENT RICHARDS; Okay. BY MS. BILAFONTA: Q. But you weren't takiny any anti-depressants or pills oar anything? A. No, no, £ just smoked pot. Hot I mostly | ff there sober. T was comfortable with Jeffrey. Jeffrey always made me feel so comfortable. I thought I was a biq gicl. T was 18. Q. you said rhat you stopped. why did you stop Page 52 EFTA00592585

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12/11£2007_1)-59 F. . 4282"9!d8°8'd8736-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 Pad& #4/P2 63 @ ; 2007-04-25 x: 19 yoing over there? You said you had a baby and you 20 changed? 21 A. Yeah. 22 Q. what happened? 23 A. fverything changed in my life, everything. If 24 ended up getting a job and I just stopped. I just 2s stopped. I don't know. $1 1 Q. But if you Felt so comfortable, why did you @ 2 stop going over there? 3 A. T just stopped because I have a son now and T 4 didn't feel like it was right. First off, I was a 5 stay-at-home mommy, okay. And what am I going to do, 6 bring my son over there to Jeffrey's, no, you know. so T 7 focused on my son. I had a beautiful baby boy that was 8 my pride and joy. 2 didn't care for anything else. 3 9 didn't care to tell friends. 1 dropped all my fricnds. 10 Like he asked me do T have any numbers, no, you know, TF ll anybody does call me, that's my mother. Like it was just 12 me and my baby boy and it's been like that ever since. 13 BY AGENT RICHARDS: 14 Q. Having a baby is a life-changing expericnce. 15 isn't it? 16 A. Naving a baby? Q. yes, it's full-time, ~ Page 53 EFTA00592586

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12/11£2007 Cas e 11,59 F 9'd8°ev'd8736-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 Padh$8/$p3 63 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 v = a Nv oo}, wo wan wn 10 58) 12 13 4 15 2007-04 25 I oc A. Awesome, T love it. 1 love it. Q. Yeah, he'll be two in August. A. mine will be two in June. BY MS. GI}AFONIA: Q. Is thal when you started working with the company you're working for now? A. well, T was -- the whole time I was pregnant, I was taken care of by my baby’s father, Then J was a Stay at-home mommy for eight months. after that, I worked at LA fitness, Komeo Pizza. It's been a year now. and what do you mean, is that why T'm working? Q. No, t just didn't know where you were working. I thought you said you had gotten a job afterwards, after the baby was born? A. Yeah, I worked at the laundromat for a couple of days. T just like to -~ I wanted to soak in my son. That's all T did and I was like a hermit crab in the house, you know, And if anybody -- 1 told -~ 1 told Sara. T said, you know, I have a baby now and you know, | rather stay at home with my baby. My old man was taking care of me. I didn't care about money. Everything was good, so a new life. BY AGENT RICHARDS: Page 54 EFTA00592587

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12/1 07 : 2/1120" 9!dg88'dd736-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 Pad@¥d 48 63 16 17 18 9 20 21 22 23 24 2s 7 fh ow NM Fe oz No 10 11 12 13 i4 2007-04 25 x Q. Speaking of work, when you set up appointments with Sara, did she refer to what the girls were doing as work, like would they go over to Jeffrey's to work for massage or -- A. No. Q. -- how did she -- were any terms used or just in general? Did she ask you if you had any girls that can work or did you have any girls that can come over? Do you have any girls 1 can give a Jeffrey a massage? How did she ask for these appointments? 53 A. All of the above: bo you have any girls that would like to come over? vo you have any girls that would Tike te work? Yeah, all of the above, really. I mean, me and Sara were really -- it's like a friend relationship. She's fun. No, it wasn't like a specific like hey, you know, do you want to come over and work, mo. Tt was all different: massage, work, whatever. Q. Okay. BY MS. BILAFONIA: Q. You said that you and Sara had developed a friendly relationship. Oid Sara ever rel? you what types of girls Jeffrey wanted or { think you said that sometimes she would say he likes this girl or || sorry, he likes this girl? Paye 55 EFTA00592588

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12/1 142007 g18g°8\46736-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 Pad%9?/8P9 63 Pd 2007 04-25 I oe 5 A. Yeah. 16 Q. what exactly -- what guidance did she give you 17 about recruiting the girls? 18 A. She didn't give me i. Jeffrey trom the 19 get-go, I really like women like you. So when I would go 20 searching to make money or whatever or my girltriends, 1 21 know what an attractive person looks like and £ would -- 22 T would bring them, you know. £ didn’t bring any 73 overweight people. £ just knew what Jeffrey li. you 24 know. 25 Q. Did you ever talk to Sara massages when you 54 1 gave them, what you did, what you would do? 2 A. Huh-uh, I didn't know if she knew or not. 3 Q. T have a picture of someone and I'm just 4 wondering if you recognize this person? 5 A. No. Was She a girl that was over there? G Q. Just a face that we wanted to -~- r A. Okay. No. 1 don't know. B BY AGENT RICHARDS: 9 Q. when you would ask the ladies if || like to 10 go over to see Jeffrey, what was the percentage? How yA many people would say sure, that sounds good. Let's go 12 do it. And how many would just say, no, I'm not & Page 56 EFTA00592589

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12/1442007 1 -00 220 9'68°ev'Ab736-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 Padf38/8P3 63 14 MS 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 74 25 ou MeN BRD YM he ww ON _ = = 2007-04-25 reel a. T mean, dv you have ~~ how often when you would ask the girls -- A, Tt was usually girls that T brought, the girls that £ had brought like first five girls, say. T would say. Listen, you know, recruit your girlfriends and it would go down the Tine. Recruit your girlfriends and © will pay you guys. So if £ was of fF the wall, say I was, you know, at a club or something and £ was Vike hey. girl, do you want to -- || be Tike you're crazy, you know. QO. That’s what T wondered. when you approached them what was the reaction? A. But when ft talked to them over the phone, if it 55 was one of my girlfriends’ friends or one of their friends, I would tell them exactly and | be like okay, you know. And some girls weren't comfortable with it. You know, how your murals are or whatever, if you're comfortable with your body, if you're comfortable with giving an old man a massage for $200. Q. For 30 minutes. A. You know, everybody is a wi person, Q. Sure. A. But most of the girls were -- they were Tike yeah, sure, yeah. Page 57 EFTA00592590

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12/11¢2007 ase 12.00 9:8-cv-80736-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 Palfi?8t/8?8 63 12 13 4 41s 1G 17 19 20 21 22 73 24 25 2007-04-25 EEE. tx RY MS. BLLAFONIA: Q. did you ever Say anything about, you know, be careful who you talk to about this or 1 guess || wondering why, you know, were rumors going around at school or how did everything keep under wraps?’ A. Everybody knew. {| don't know. Cverybody made jokes about it. tike it was mor in school. It was more like in my neighborhood. They would call me Heidi fleish and everybody just made jokes about it. 1 don't know, Tt wasn’t -- but I didn’t care. Q. Right. A. you know, it wasn't if you didn’t get out + It wasn't really a big thing to me at all. Q. I guess || just wondering, you know, kind of 56 the way that this all came out was finally a parent tound out about it -- A. Yeah, I heard. Q. -- and went ballistic. How did you keep these yirls* parents from finding out? A. I don't know, probably embarrassing. They obviously liked Jeffrey that much that they didn't tell anyone. Q. Nid anybody hassle you at school? bid anybody Page 58 EFTA00592591

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12/1428079 198°. fdti736-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 Pada 6G sf9s 63 10 J 12 13 14 MS 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 > we Nn = ro) 2007-04 25 elle call you Heidi Fleish at school: A. No, no, no, I was out of schovl by then, No. Q. why did you drop out ef school? A. well, actually, -~- why? 2. I’m sorry. T interrupted you. A Because -- no, you didn't. well, my mother had tuok me me out of school to home-school me. And then T had went back to a school because { was really behind because she didn’t home-school me and I had got pregnant, that's why. And that's in the eleventh grade, that's when I got out because I was pregnant. and 1 decided that I was -- I mean, I didn't know what I was doing. I wanted to have a house. IL Said I'm going to have this baby. I need to have a house, a car, and I set ovt all my goals and that's what happencd. esut then 1 ended up getting my GED and 1 have a life. 57 BY AGENT RICHARDS: @. were there ever any girls that came to you wanting to work over there that said hey, || like to go work over there and make $200 bucks? Did you have any of that? A. uh-huh. Q. | bo you remember any of their names or were they classmates or Page 59 EFTA00592592

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12/1U20819158%CV'dd736-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 Pag@ @£4998 63 nA -r 2 we N 2007 04-25 QR xr A. At wasn't --Tt wasn’t involved in the schoo! so much. Tt was just that Soir] in the school. Q. Okay. So she was really the only like school-related -- A. Like person from school, yeah. Q. Okay. A. But it was mostly cut of school. So T wasn't really hanging out with the best crowd. and all the people thar 1 did hang out with, they were dropouts. So it wasn't anything in school. t was mostly like the neighborhood people or my friend, one of my guy friends’ giclfriend or whatever, you know. we were all young and stupid, but -- BY MS. BILAFONLA: Q. Anything else? Do you have any questions for any of us, for me or -- A. No, but T hope -- I hope Jeffrey, nothing 58 happens to Jeffrey because he's an awesome man and it would really be a shame, It's a shame that he has to go through this because he’s an awesome guy and he didn’t do nothing wrong, notbing. Q. are you in Jove with him at all? A. My God, no. T love him as a friend. I love Page 60 EFTA00592593

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T2711 G2984 PLE 86736-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 Palft?83/8?9 63 2007 OF 25 xT & 7 him as a friend. He has done so much for me, No. T'm 4 not in love with him. 1 tell Jeffrey. do you want to 9 marry me with all of rhe money that you have. 10 AGENT RICHARDS: All right. At this Lime, 11 we're going to conclude the interview. It is 5:34 is by my watch. 13 MR. EISENBERG: ithe only thing we'll correct is 14 that there mght have been a reference to an old guy 15 at 50 and we'll just Say a more mature individual 16 who may be in his 50s. Thank you. 17 (End of the tape.) 18 19 20 21 22 Co 23 24 25 59 1 CERTIFICATE ? 4 The State of Florida, ) 5 ee Page 61 EFTA00592594

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12/1388 '9 Ga Sd8736-KAM Document 403-3 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/02/2017 Padg@ $9498 63 oxen gm 10 12 13 14 1S 16 17 18 19 20 2) 22 23 24 25 2007-04-75 J oo county of Palm Beach. ) i, Vicki $. Woodham, Notary Public, do hereby certify that T was authorized Lo and did listen to and stenographically transcribe the torcgoing tape-recorded proceedings and that the transcript is a truc record to the best of my ability. Dated this 26th day of april, 7007, Vicki &. wondham My Commission Expires: December O8, 2010 Commission No.:; 90617559 Page 62 60 EFTA00592595