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rn testimony of jas taken before the Federal Grand Jury, West Palm West Palm Beac! ‘alm Beach County, EFTA00224006

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Page 4 Police Department as one of the girls who had frequented Q How exactly did the Palm Beach Police Department determine that she was one of those girls? “ When they did their search warrant at Mr. Epstein's residence, some message pads were obtained at his residence, and they had several calls from a girl noned and phone numbers. So they were able to track back those messages back Q Did the Palm Beach Police Departme interview uiss They did. Did she agree to speak with them? No. She stated that she loved Jeffrey Epstein, and that she would not say anything positive or negative about what occurred. Q After the FBI became involved in this investigation, did you try to interview | fl A We did, as well, with no such luck, as well. Q How long ago was it that you first made contact with viss A It was back in November of '06. Q Did you try to serve her with a subpoena issued on behalf of this grand jury? A Yes, we did. EFTA00224008

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Page 5 Q What happened? A She refused service of the grand jury subpoena. But she was notified of when her appearance was expected here, and a subpoena was left with her. Q After that, did she obtain an attorney? A Yes, she did. Q Who was that? A Jim Eisenberg. He's a well-known defense attorney here in West Palm Beach. Q Who paid for that attorney? Mr. Epstein is paying for ml : attorney. Q Now once Miss BE securea the attorney, did she agree to be interviewed? A Yes, she did, after she was granted 6001 immunity. She requested immunity. Q Did the justice department authorize that grant of immunity? A Yes, they did. Q After that, did she agree to be interviewed? A Yeah. It was only after she was given that immunity that she would talk with us. Q When did the interview take place? A It took place at the end of April of this year, so just a few weeks ago. Who was present at that interview? EFTA00224009

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What else did Miss | | tell you? That she went to Mr. Epstein's residence, that took her there the first time, that when she went upstairs she was paid $200 when she first got there by Then she goes upstairs, and Mr. Epstein comes in, he disrobes, puts on a towel, lays down on the massage table and she begins to massage him. She tells Epstein that she heard he likes topless massages, and he told her that he did. And she said, "Who wouldn't?" And she ended up taking off her top during the first massage. Mr. Epstein did not at any point touch her during the massage. Q But does sl! admit that he touched himself? second massage, Mr. Epstein asked her to ave her phone number with ma Her phone number was left tl : ) I second massage, she returned the very next day an av nm another massage. Mr. Epstein masturbated in front of her. Q Did Mis admit that he masturbated on more than one occasion in her presence? A Yes, masturbated. And I think her term was that " meaning that he ejaculated. of a period of time did nics tell you that she performed massages? he "released, She wasn't able to give us a number of massages, EFTA00224011

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Page 8 but just said that it was a lot, and that she had been giving him massages for a year. Q You mentioned to the grand jury that Miss | | said that Mr. Epstein never touched her, correct? A Yes. Q And she was very adamant about that? A Yes, she was. Q Were there other things that she was adamant about in her interview with you? A Well, she talked about what she would tell the girls that -- and that she told Mr. Epstein that she was 18. I'm sorry, I take that back. She was told to say that she was 18, and she told us that she had a fake I.D. showing that she was 18. So she passed that information along to the other girls when she brought -- eventually she brought other girls to perform massages, and that was one of the things that she told -- she told us first that she brought 18- to 20-year old girls. And then she stated that if the girls lied, and they were underage, she told them that they needed to tell Epstein that they were 18. Q Have you been able to identify some of the girls that “ss brought to Mr. Epstein's home? A Yes. Q Were any of those girls EFTA00224012

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=) wW oc Page 9 rar A No, not that we fo Q Have any of the girls told investigators about Mr. Epstein kne about A I'm sorry, say that again. who c been interv 1 Mr. Epstein knew about their ages? A We view them regarding to check your records on A I can tell you that one of the girls that she brought -- this girl told Mr. Epstein that she was in high school, and actually told him her true age, which was told you about, that wasn't A No, that wasn't. Sorry. she |} also told you that she had EFTA00224013

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Page 10 Q Did she ever say that Mr. Epstein either asked for her age or asked to see her I.D.? 5 A No, the topic never came up. Did you also ask her about how appointments were 8 A Yes. She was very clear in the fact cha fi , oo call her to arrange the appointments, but 10 that Rn < call her once Jeffrey was in town. Q So she was adamant that the calls only happened when she was already here? A Yes. Q Were you made aware that Epstein's counsel was informed that he was being investigated for traveling to engage in prostitution, which means that the appointments would have been made before the traveling? A Yes. Q Was there anything else, besides the issue of age and the issue of when the appointments were made, that sounded coached or that she was especially adamant about? 22 A No, I wouldn't say coached. I mean, we talked about the preferences that Jeffrey discussed, as far as 24 which girls he would Like ¢ bring. 25 Once giving massages to Epstein, EFTA00224014

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Page 11 1 | a us that he liked different faces, so he would ask her to bring other girls. We asked her if he ever gave any preferences of what he preferred, and her response was that Epstein liked girls like her, which is thin and blond and attractive. Q And how old was she at the time? A She was 15. Q So thin, blonde, attractive and -- A Young, girls like her. I guess we asked if she ever made a mistake, or ever brought somebody that Mr. Epstein didn't take to. She said that she had screwed up and that she had brought a black girl to Mr. Epstein, and that Epstein was not interested in black girls. But he did pay her, and said that he wasn't a racist. He paid her the $200 for her time, but did not want her to perform a massage for him. Q And he didn't allow that girl to perform a massage? A No. Q Was there anything else that Miss PE --».-< about in the interview that you want to share with the grand jury? A I did ask her at the end of the interview if she was in love with Mr. Epstein. She looked into the camera and said that she loved him like a friend. But then she EFTA00224015

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Page 12 kind of looked into the camera and gave a wink and a smile and said, "But with your money, I'd marry you any time, Jeffrey." Q Did she also say that she considered him to be an "awesome guy"? A Several times she referred to him as an "awesome guy". She said that the girls begged her to come and that the girls didn't have a complaint, and the girls would share with her everything that happened after the massage, and that Jeffrey never touched any of the girls. But as I informed you, we did interview some of the girls that she took, and he has touched them. Q In preparation for your testimony today, did you also speak with someone who is considered to be an expert in these cases? A Yes. Q And what is that person's name? A Ken Lanning. Q Has Mr. Lanning been qualified to testify as an expert in federal and state courts in cases that involve what he calls “compliant victims"? A Yes. Q What does he mean by the term "compliant victims"? A A compliant victim is when a victim is not EFTA00224016

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Page 13 necessarily forced into the conduct that the offender wants them to engage into, that they actually consent to that kind of activity. Q So that would include minors who are subjected to sexual activity but weren't necessarily kidnapped or forced at gunpoint, or something like that? A Exactly. Q Did he discuss with you the difficulties that exist when you interview those types of victims? A Yes. He stated that a compliant victim is often times embarrassed that they went along with the behavior. They are also likely to deny the behavior, especially when being interviewed by investigators, that they'll deny it or they'll minimize it. Sometimes it takes two, three or multiple interviews to get compliant victims to either trust their interviewer or realize that their interviewer is not going to be judgemental. Q In this case, have you found that to be the case with some of the interviews? A Yes, I have. Q In addition to being embarrassed, sometimes these victims feel guilty about the fact that they were involved in this type of activity? A Oh, yes. Does Mr. Lanning also have expertise in sexual EFTA00224017

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preference of offenders? A Yes, he does. Q Did he explain why an offender would select the types of victims that are involved in this case, girls between 14 and 17-years-old? A This type of offender, the sexual preference he has is for post-pubescent females that are physically developed but not necessarily mentally matured. The girls ranging in this age are sometimes inexperienced, they are possibly naive, not as worldly. An offender of this type could also maybe not feel sexually adequate or feel competent dealing with his own age group. So knowing that these girls are less experienced, may focus on them as well. Q In addition to their emotional immaturity, did Mr. Lanning talk about whether or not younger girls are easier to manipulate than grown women? A Yes. Q Did he talk to you about "grooming"? A Yeah. That's what an offender will use with a compliant victim. He told us that grooming is a technique where you gain the cooperation of those victims by focusing on their interests and playing up to those interests. It's a type of seduction, he called it. That was his words for it. And we actually see this in this EFTA00224018

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Page 15 Q Can you give us an example of some of the types of grooming that Mr. Epstein used? A With one of the girls we're going to talk about today, ma. it's very apparent interviewing her how Epstein groomed her. She only went to three or four massages at this time, that she's admitted to. We feel that due to her phone conversations, the multiple calls, that there may be more there. At this point she has stated to us that she has performed three or four massages for Mr. Epstein. What he did is when she first went there he Played upon -- she was very shy, and he would play upon that shyness. He told her that she was pretty. He asked her to remove her clothing, and she would not. So he kind of kidded around with her shyness and complimented her, showed interest in her, talked about her boyfriend and different interests she had. At the end of that interview, because she did not take off her clothes, he tells her that if she's willing to do more, she will make more. He also tells her that he would pay her if she would bring other girls. As the massages increased, you can see that the next time she comes he plays again to that shyness, but he gets a little bit more -- I guess he sees that it's not working. This EFTA00224019

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Page 16 time she does comply and takes off her -- he asked her to disrobe on the second massage. She takes off her blouse, but she refuses to take off the bra after Mr. Epstein asked her to. So you can see that he tries through showing interest. And then he actually -- when he sees that this isn't working, he takes a more authoritative role with her in the last massage. She said that throughout all of these massages he was very nice, and then at the end he was much more frustrated and irritated. She does get down to her bra and panties on that one, he's just much more authoritative. So he started with the grooming process, tried to get her interest, tried to use that to get her to comply with removing her clothes. But as often happens, at the end of this, he took over and was much more forceful with his requests. Q Have other girls described that same situation where every time they went back, he tried to push it one step further and one step further? A Yes. Several of the girls have said that he would always push for more and more. Q Did Mr. Lanning explain why it is that a compliant child victim cannot legally consent to the sexual conduct? EFTA00224020

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Page 17 A Yeah. He stated that -- you know, we talked about how the law protects children, and stated that we hold adults accountable. When it comes to adolescents, they go through normal tendencies that mature offenders may try to take advantage of. But the law is in place for that reason, to protect -- in the federal law, to protect those individuals under the age of 18. Q And that's because of the different maturity levels of the A The offender versus the victims, exactly. Q Did you put together the photographs of the defendants in this case? A Yes, I did. Q Are these photographs of the four human defendants who are named in the proposed indictment? A Yes. With their names underneath them? Yes. Agent, who is in the top left-hand corner? That's Jeffrey Epstein. When was this photograph taken? Recently. There was an article that just came out regarding Mr. Epstein and his connection, or his personal relationship with Prince Andrew, and that was a EFTA00224021

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13 Page 18 > Q Who is in the top right-hand corner? a A assistant ° Q And the bottom right-hand corner should say n a) an a ° 8 9 S bey) = | ct 9 ~ we 1 1 s) a} talk that she ually i Jeffrey is in his mid-fifties, and the three Q Do you have a copy of the t indictment ir front of you? A Yes, I do. Q ti 10oned ve were 1 Kk at the photographs that the three females work as personal Sistants for Mr. Epstein, is that correct? l EFTA00224022

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Page 19 A Yes. Q Are you familiar with the property located at 358 El Brillo Way in Palm Beach? A That's Mr. Epstein residence. And he owns that residence? Yes, he does. Are you familiar with Defendant J.E.G.E., Inc.? Yes. J.E.G.E., Inc. is owned by Jeffrey Epstein. He is the president, the owner, the sole director. It's a business that is solely used for the activities of one of Mr. Epstein's airplanes, which is his Boeing 727. Its tail number is N9O8JE. Q And you mentioned that he is the president and the sole director. Is he also the sole shareholder? A Yes, he is. Q Are you familiar with Hyperion Air, Inc.? A Yes. Hyperion Air, Inc. is also a business owned by Mr. Epstein. He is also the president, the director and the sole shareholder of that company as well. That company solely does business with his other aircraft, which is a Gulf Stream G-1159B. It bears a tail number N9IOSJE. Q Is that a smaller aircraft than the Boeing? A Yes. Q Just to briefly remind the grand jury about EFTA00224023

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Page 20 where the evidence has been collected in this case, was the start of your investigation information that you received from the Palm Beach Police Department? A Yes, it was. Q And that included evidence seized during a search of Mr. Epstein's home at El Brillo Way? A Yes. Q Also controlled calls that the Palm Beach Police Department placed? A Yes. Q And interviews of girls and other people by the Palm Beach Police Department? A Yes, as well as trash pulls that the Palm Beach Police Department conducted on Mr. Epstein's residence. Q Then when the FBI became involved, the FBI did additional interviews of girls and of recruiters? A Yes. Q They obtained phone records? Yes, we have. Q And records of payments? A Yes. Q Did this grand jury also subpoena travel records? Yes. Including the flight manifests of the planes EFTA00224024

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owned by Hyperion and J.E.G.E.? A Yes. Q Did you also get corporate documents related to those two planes? A Yes, we have. Q Once you had obtained all of this information, did the FBI analyze the data, specifically the call information and the flight information to put together a pattern of activity by the defendants? A Yes, we did. Q So you have a series of phone calls coming from these three assistants who were on the board, the two girls who have been identified through this investigation? A Yes. Q When you spoke with those girls, did any of them tell you that they had developed some sort of a personal relationship with the assistants so that they were just chatting over the telephone? A No, not at all. Q All of them said what about the phone calls? A Said that the phone calls were made to set up appointments for Mr. Epstein. Q And the girls referred to it as appointments to work, is that right? A Yes, they were appointments to work. There is EFTA00224025

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Page 22 one exception, P| We're going to talk about her probably next week. She did say on one or two occasions that [MMI bad called her when she had gone out to California on a trip, I believe. But that is the only time that that was ever mentioned. In fact, we asked, and those phone calls were made for the purpose of setting up appointments for Mr. Epstein. Q Is the investigation continuing? A Yes, it is. Q Are you still trying to locate and interview more girls? A Yes. Q Let's turn to the specific evidence reporting the overt acts and offenses relating to Jane Doe's 1 through 5. I know that every member of the grand jury has a copy of the draft indictment before them, and also a chart. Do you have a copy of that chart as well? A I do. Q Do you have photographs of the five girls that we are going to talk about today? A Yes. Q And these are photographs of the people that we are calling Jane Doe's 1 through 5? A Yes. EFTA00224026

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earlier, back in February, during one of these about a speci > ac that was performed. sions, ask about that? We were told back in February the girls hadn't hea Doe Number we'll talk about. Q So turning to Jane Doe Number testified about her earlier before this correct? s grand rem us Su briefly refresh the grand she was recruited? She was approached on a beach 4 CO and gurello (phonet They EFTA00224028

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Page 25 and asked her if she wanted to perform massages for 2 Mr. Epstein and make some money. 3 Q From the review of the phone records that you have received, were you able to identify a telephone number associated with Tony Figurello? A Yes. has Tony Figurello been interviewed? Q In fact, 8 A Yes, he has. 9 Q And has he admitted to being a recruiter for Mr. Epstein? A Yes, recruiter and driver. 12 Q If you could take a look at Overt Act Number 2, which appears on page five. That states, "On or about March 12, 2004, defendants Jeffrey Epstein and caused Jane Doe Number 1 to travel to 358 Brillo Way of Palm Beach, Florida." Can you tell us what evidence you have regarding 19 A We have reviewed phone records for | | and 20 i... indicate the calls took place, as well as phone records for Tony Figurello and ana calls that took nN 22 place on or about those dates. We've also looked ata flight manifest, and were able to show that Mr. Epstein 24 arrived the day before, on the lith. We also — statement where she describes the sexual activity that EFTA00224029

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Page 26 took place. Q On that date, March 12 of 2004, | going to Mr. Epstein's house and performing a sexual massage? A Yes, on or about that day. Q On or about that date, what aia A state about being paid? A She was paid $200. Q And that relates to Overt Act Number 3? A Yes. Q And she stated that Mr. Epstein is the person who gave her that? A She told us that in her statement. Q If you could take a look at Overt Act Number 95, which is on page 17. On or about February 6, 2005, Epstein had Jane Doe Number 1 to make one or more telephone calls to Jane Doe Number 2. First of all, who is Jane Doe Number 2? A That would be a. our youngest victim. Q Can you tell us what evidence you have related to that overt act? A We have the girl's statements that calls were made. We also reviewed the phone records that indicated that there was telephonic contact between the numbers belonging to EFTA00224030

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ised one more cal ls to be made to a 2lephone used Jane Doe imbe 8 v 1 to ? a e reviewed 1e phone records of and Q Overt 120 1 or about March 3 2 caused one or more calls to a telephone used Jane Doe Number 1 used by Jane Doe Number 2. EFTA00224032

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Page 29 What evidence do you have re ed to A We have reviewed the phone records of || and 4 | | that indicate telephonic contact was made on this March-April calls, are calls that the Palm Beach Police Department was involved in? There w controlled calls placed to PF phone and to P| lace of » under the supervision of the Palm Beach Police Department. voice mail message that you referred to , what information was | | leaving in that voice mail message? | | vas asking fo | to get back in touch, that she had set up an appointment r at Epstein's house on the following day, 10:30 or 11:00. Q In addition to the pl! records, was there Palm Beach Police Depé this appointment actually wa mentioned earlier, the Palm Beach Department was doing trash pulls residence. there, there were two messages or notes in EFTA00224033

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Ss personalized stationary. th i. Saturday at 10:30, and :30." That's the exact message the two notes that were found in his trash when they i it on April 8. 1ld direct r attention to Count Number That is the arge of ement of a Mr. Epstein and Miss I know that you talked about the telephone The calls between and Tony Figurello, did within that March 7 through March 11 time records do indicate that there were phone calls nr uri that t Q And Jane Doe Number Epstein's home? Yes, and performed nude. $20 And he masturbated 1 fr of her, correct? Yes, he did. I would like to include that mi took upstairs fo that massage, and sh ne also set up the massage table and arranged the oil and lotions EFTA00224034

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Page 32 set up and arrange appointments for Mr. Epstein to have his massages. Pertaining to | the massage that occurred on those dates, February 6, in particular, I think I have discussed with you before what occurred on that, that a. and that was his term for He did masturbate during that massage, and she believed he ejaculated because he wiped off his penis with a towel. She was paid $300, and we know that she was 14 at the time. Q If we could turn to Count Number 43, which appears on page 31. Count 43 is one of the travel counts. If you could tell the grand jury, did a trip occur on March 31, 2005? A Yes, we have flight records that indicate a flight occurred on that date. Q What type of plane was used? A I'm going to refer to the J.E.G.E., Incorporated aircraft as just the Boeing 727. If we talk about the Hyperion Air, Incorporated aircraft, which is the Gulf Stream, I will just say the Gulf Stream. So on that date he did travel on his Boeing 727, on 3-31. Q And Mr. Epstein was aboard the plane on that EFTA00224036

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respect to the March 3list trip, intment wi to that trip? telephonic contact between him on the day before and the day of travel. And even though that appointment was never kept, never went to that appointment, you have the notes that were retrieved from the garbage that showed Epstein was expecting || o show up for that appointment? ect to that particular count? lls and the voice Count Number 60, which appears on attempted enticement of P| March 30 to April hat point, | was how old? we had talked about the telephone calls that things that is relevant to this particular count was that in addition to the fact that EFTA00224037

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week. Thank you. (Witness excused.) I CERTIFY pages 1 to 35 is a true transcript of my shorthand notes of the testimony of FY before the Federal Grand Jury, West Palm Beach, Florida, on the 8th day of May, 2007. Dated at West Palm Beach, Florida this 23rd day Ma May, Court Reporter EFTA00224039