Case 9:08-cv-80119-KAM Document 15-2 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/30/2008 Page 1 of 35 CASE NO.: 08—CV-80119-MARRA/JOHNSON EXHIBIT A EFTA00222254

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Case 9:08-cv-80119-KAM Document 15-2 nsor & Associates emg nd Retin Bs , -—— — ew IN THE CIACUIT CoOpRT OF THR FIFTEENTH JUDICIAL crm | IN AND FOR PALM BEACH COUNTY, PLORIGA CASK WO. 2006 CPOS4S4AXX STATE OF FLORIDA, ~ws JEFFREY EPSTELE, Defendant. / occasion oF 7 re Wednesday, february 20, 2008 ) 2:00 pom. = 4:30 pom Palm Beach County Courthouse 205 Morth late Highway West Palm Beack, Florids 33402 COPY Reported By: Judith ¥. Consor, F¥8 Notary Public, State of Florida Consor § Associates Seporting and Transcription pe | Phone - 561.682.0905 4 Le TT: Ph, 561.682.0905 - Fax, 561.682.1773 1655 Paim Beach Lakes Bive., Seite S00 - Wost Paim Beach, Fl. 33401 2 AeCTWESS = DIRECT EXAMINATION ‘ } 4 er me. TETH: 6 ° ’ MORXMISITS MARKED a See 3 CERTIFIED QuEsTioMs 10 Page Line 53 2 12 3 2 oe 2 1 mi a 112 2 13 “ a6 17 18 as 20 2 ' 22 | 23 2 1 25 Ph, 561.682.0905 - Fax. 961.682.1771 1655 Palm Beach Lakes Bivd., Suke S00 - West Palm Beach, AL 33401 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/30/2008 ¥osor & Associates Somat seer. Page 2 of 35 — + ; rae 2| 1 APPEARANCES: } 2 On behalf of the State: | 3 LANA BELOHLAVER, ESQ. i ASSISTANT STATE ATTORNEY 4 #01 Werth Daate Highway Hest Palm Beach, Florida 33401 5 561.355.7100 f On behalf of the Defendant: MICHAEL R. TEIN, RSQ. 7 KATHRYN A. MEYERS, 280. MeMES TEIN, PL 8 3059 GRAND AVERUE, SUITE 340 COCONUT GROVE, FE 33133 i > on behalf of the Oefendant 10 JACK A, GOLDSERGER, E5Q- ATTERBURY, GOLD@ERGER 6 WEISS ‘4 1 250 NUSTRALIAS AVENUE SOUTH surTe 3400 12 WEST PALM BEACH, FLORIDA 33401 561.659.8300 a3 1¢ ALSO PRESENT: om BEHALT OF THR wiTNESS: THEC}ORE J. LEOPOLD, £90 1s KEITH J. BRETT, DIRECTOR OF MULTINEDEA DIVISION, LEGAL-Eae | ié -“-- 17 18 ' ot 20 | 21 22 | 23 2 ! 25 ! eae Ph, 561.662.0905 - Fax. 961.662 682.1773 1655 Palm Beach Lakes Bivd., Suke S00 - West Palen Beach, PL 33403 nsor & Associates PI erenig ot Wansroene. \ Page ¢ | i deposition taken before Judith T. Consor, | . court Reporter and Notary Public ix and for the Sta riceigs at Large, is the sbove cause haviag been ¢isst duly sworn or affimmed, Thereapon, was examined and testified as follows: THE WITNESS: I Go DIRECT RXAMIMATION 10 - | |: ! | 6 ’ ' ‘ ! s | i oye | | A. | 21 TeIe: 12 Q. Good efternoce. Please tell me your full 13 name } “ ew And can you piease spell it. i — 18 Q. ‘Thank you. May I call = aap Uh-hub. 15 16 a it 20 A. = several gue’ 21 going to ask you @ few 22 23 If at any time you questions, fens today want to take @ Break, you just let me know. Okey? | | 24 a okay ' i 25 e 1f you at any time don't understand one of | Ph. 561.682.0905 - Fax. 561.682.1771 1655 Pulm Beach Lakes Bivd., Sume 509 - West Palm Geach, Fi 33401 EFTA00222255

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Case 9:08-cv-80119-KAM Document15-2 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/30/2008 Page 3 of 35 & Associates nporsng a0 Thane pom, Page € you just please let me know? 2 against your father regarding your fifty sillien-doliar lewsnit against Jeffrey Rpstein say? that you live with 0. Aad Af at any time you're not feeling weit 2 3 4 oF semething ike thet, you'll tell us, right? 5 6 7 yoar aunt and uncle and have been Living theres i¢ that A, Yes. 2 3 4 correct? 5 AL Yes, 6 ©. 00 you feel okay today? ©, ow long have you bees living with your A, tes. ’ aut and uncle? s e. Mot taking any aleohol or drugs or anything | a A. Since ay father kicked ae cst. t) sight? \ 9 0. That was Thanksgiving of thie past year? 10 A Me. 19 a ‘. 2 ©. 0 you feel ready to have your depositica 1 ©. Chay, Didn*t your firefighter boyfriend ; ao apartment for the two ef you? te ‘) a IR. Mo, sir. Be has an apartacnt, bat by u — ia your address? | \ J u bineelf 1 A. T'm currently biving at my aunt's Douse and 1s ©, Old he get an apartment for the two of you le I don't teow it off the top of my head. 16 te hive in? rh e Where is it? Pe] A, Bey siz. j ls a ‘In Jupiter. 8 @. Are you planning to move in with & pS) ° Who i your aunt? 19 a Maybe one Gay in the future. | 20 e Do you have « plan Co nove tm wit Bin 2 o Wo else is living there? a presently? H 22 AL to, 2 o anyone living there? 23 ©. Mave you Deen to the aparteent that you and ; a“ a Mo. 24 QUINN) 2 ssc soviog an copter? ; 2 0. The conteape motion that your nother thied / _ : ~ ; r 25 a. y Seve Deon to the apartaent. Ph. $61.682.0905 - Fave. 961.682.1771 - none - —— 1655 Pairm Beach Lakes Bivd., Suite 500 - West Palm Beach, FL 33401 | 0h. BELSEG.005 © Pex, S68.E2.1771 1655 Palm Beach Lakes Bivd., Sule 500 - West Pam Beach, FL 33401 & Associates Aaposing ant Tange, te ee — cy ge L o Where to that? Lo OPOLD: let me just object. 2 A, Pela meach Lakes: , ° ' 3 ©. Have you spent the aight over there? 2 am ne instzuct you, Anything thet ‘ A, Woe at 3 you have Learned through conversations between you air, 5 ° De you know the aciress thei ry and we are protected, So if you know any of that » et | € a I de not. 5 information cutside of those ens, you may - tte 1 know it te i] O. «- taatt your stecer QB eersics on living 6 anewer. Bat if only way you 4 | 8 with you and | oo 7 through our discussions, de not anawaz that H s 8 question. . TET 10 : = know that this court case in « > em. Ter ' a criminst prosecution, correct? \ 10 ° a= you know that Mr, tespold recentiy 12 a Correct | nu filed a Laupait ia federal court on your Debslf against 13 2. And you know that it's @ criminal | 22 Jelirey Rpstein seeking fifty midison doliars? ' u“ prowecetion against a san whe has no crisinal background. “ 8 WR. LEOPOLD: Same objection, is Oe you know that? u“ If you know the snaver te that outside of 16 A. 2 do mow as cur discussions, you may answer, Tf at is the uv 2 You agree that court is s very serious 16 enly way that you know the answer is through our : 18 matter? 17 discussions, do not snewer that question. 19 AL Yom. 8 THE WITHESS: Chey ! 2 \ o osney/elient tT 20 O°. and you're here with your Lewyer | 9 MA, LBORCLD: Aktosney/elient privilege, 22 Me. Leopold, right? 20 Be We, TRIM: 22 A 8 21 ©. Fok can answer the question uniess ' 23 Q. And you know that ite. Leopold recently 2 MR. LEOPOLD: Sane ebjection. j a4 filed » awanit in federal court ageinat Jeffrey Epstein, i 2 MR, TEIN; Let we finish. 5 seeking fifty million dollars. a wR, EeOPCLD: Excuse mt. He're =~ : — - 2 we. TRIM: Wo. tat me findats. | Ph. 561.682.0005 - Fax. 561.682.1771 i — 1655 Par Beach Lakes Bivd., Suite SOO - West Palm Beach, FL. 33402 ' Ph, 561.682.0005 - Fax. 561.662.1771 | - 1655 Pain Bach Lakes Bivel, Suite 500 - West Palm Beach, a3 EFTA00222256

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Case 9:08-cv-801 19-KAM Document 15-2 Page ® wR, DROPORE: Lewis, we're not going to do that. MR, TREN: My same is not Laws. z'm going to finish my question. Okay? R. LSOPOLD: De not answer until you hear trom ae. BY MR. TEIN: @. Other then conversations that you have had with Mr, Leopeld -- I'm not askieg about that -- are you ware that Me, Leopolc has filed a lewsuit in federal court seeking fifty million dollars from Jeffrey Epstein om your behalt? ‘MR. LEOPOLD: Sane objection. Anything that you Learn through converastions between you and me, do not anewer, ‘Those are protected. If you know through any other reals of knowledge, you sey anever. ‘THE wITWESS: Bo. BY MR. TEETH: @. You have no idea that Me. Leopold filed @ fifty eillion-dollar lawsuit on your bebalf against Jottrey Epstein? wm. LEOPOLD: Same objection. De not anmwer thet question if it's through @iscassions that you and I hed. Outside of that, Ph. 961.682.0905 « Fax. 961.682.1771 1655 Pale Beach Lakes Bivc., Suke 500 - West Palm Beach, FL 33401 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/30/2008 Page 4 of 35 & Associates ! Raperting wt Tener, Sow Page 10 you may anaver. So 40 pot anawer that question if thet 1a the omly Basie by watch you understand that answer. THE NITWESS: fo. | You Gidn*t Imow that? WR. LEOPOLD: Don't anwar that question. | Again, it's attorney/eiient privilege. Any information you've isarcsed through conversations i between you afd I are protected. Tf you know it through any other reate, yoo nay anawer, MR. TEI: Ree you going te way that for every question in the deposition, Me. Leopold? ' WR. LEOPOLD: when you ask improper qetations Like that without the proper == MR. TRIN) You're going te stop your speaking objections sight sow, Chay? MK. LEOPOLD: Without the proper ~~ MR. TRIN: Tou need to step your speaking sbyectaces. Let's continae. MR. LEOPCLD: Counsel, you jurt arked me a question and I'm going to state it on the record =~ Mh. TEIN) Tou need te stop your speaking Ph, 561.682.0005 - Fax. 561.682.1771 1655 Pulm Beach Lakes Bivd., Sute 500 - West Palm Beach, Fl 33401 ; Whnsor & Associates Page 1 cibjections. Check your rules. Mh. LEOPOLD: Bucuae me. for the record, Counsel asked me a question. I'L1 state the answer ch the record. He asked me the questica an deposition. 30 long an there's inproper 1 2 3 4 5 I goieg te be answering thet way throughout the 6 7 foundation and peeticate asked by the attorney, I 8 WiLL protect my cléent and = make the record where 7 appropriate. If counsel wishes to ask an 10 appropiate worded question with the proper ot foundation and predicate, 1 will certainly allow 12 the client te answer the quention, 3 WR, GOREORAGER: why don"t you just state ua attormey/elient privilege and just be done with 1s ie? 1é WR. 1B070L0: I want the recerd to be 7 clear. 18 Wh. TEIN: You want to waste tine is whet is you want to do. 20 You were wappoeed to be here this aorning 21 ‘nd you totally broke the deal, the agreement that you had with us Sf your hearing got cancelled. Bot let's move on and maybe you'll step obstructing this deposition. om. Eo chink the record is very LEOPOLD: Ph. 561.682.0905 - Fax. 561.682.1771 1655 Pulm Beach Lakes Giv., Suite 500 - West Paim Beach, FL 33401 i clear where we stand thus far. 2 Is there # recording taken of this ' 3 deporstion? ! 4 ‘THE COURT BAPORTER: Yer. ! s W@, LEOPOLD: Just make sure that's ‘ ‘ preserved. | 7 arm, sets a Q. Go te Rxhibit 20-62 -~ well, Defore you de | s that," axe you aware thet « javyer nanec Jeffrey 10 Norman filed a lawsuit on your bebalf, yes or no? | n KR. tuorcLD: objection. | a2 Any conversstions that you and I Mave hed 2 regarding thet, if that ia the only way by which 1 you understand how to answer thet question, do not us ansvor. It's sttorney/client privilege, as well 26 as amy conversations you may have ad with the 37 attorney fzom Miami, That is also attorney/client i oy privilege, And i'm eeaunlng ~~ | 2 wR. TEIN: You're actually wrong about the 20 attorney/elient privilege. J 2 yO. LEOPOLD: I'm assuming Counsel is not 2 asking you te divulge attorney/client >~ 23 Wh. TEIN: Of course sot. | uM BY eR, TED: | a. are you mware that Jeffrey Herman, | a Pn, 561.652.0905 - Fax. $61.682.371 | 1655 Palm Beach Lakes Svc, Sulte 500 - West Paim Beacn, FL 33401 i EFTA00222257

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Case 9:08-cv-80119-KAM Document 15-2 sy & Associates Paprreng snd Tonaneryene, Ibe Page 13 2 an attorney, filed a fifty-willion-Gollar lawsuit on your behalf egaiaat Jeffrey Epstein, yer of so? WR. LEORCED: Same ebjection, Serve heard the objection 10 MR. Thin: tines already. wR. LmOFORD: Counsel, excuse =e. yo. TEI: Just say attorany/clieat Stop sstersupting my quentions. ‘I'm entitied to make en privilege. abjection for the record, which I'm doing, anc 2°21 make the same objection. And if it calle for attoreey/elient privilege, any conversations you and 1 have had, do not answer the question. “ And I think that it sight be appropriate, 1s for the record, te ant questions via GJ i" EE = orcs oP 2 ese ae would be more appropriate for this deposition. ey HR. TEDW: o 20 A. Yes. a Ge ahead. Ploxse answer yes or me. Tank you. in fact, you know that Me. Mexaan held @ 23 press conference after he filed the fifty-million-doitar 24 Jawsait on your benalf, don't you? 2 a atver it happened. Ph. $61.682.0005 » Fax, 561.682.1771 11655 Palm Beach Lakes Bivd., Suite 500 - West Palm Beach, FL 33401 Page 15 MR. LEOPOLD! We're going to leave ox we're ing to take s break, because his demeanor is ect appropriate. There's mo reason to have this kied of demeance. If you want te heve thas Rind of Cemonnon with me <= MR. TEIN: You are obstrecting this deposition. MR. GOLDRERGER: way don"t you guys go outside and just talk about == Rh. LROPCLE: She == her Sob is very Giffiosit and she's not going to be able to teke us beth talking at the same time. WX, GOLIBERCER: Off the record, WA. LEOPOLD) He"re not going off the record, Jack, We're mot, Ject. Mer job is very difficult. I"m going te sake the record. 1 don't think st La appropeiate, especially im the gral] confines of this coum, to be very epyressive with Chie young lady. WH. TRIN; That's not Rappening. Stop, stop actually -~ wm, LEGFORD: Tf you're going to interrupt me, we're going to cancel this deporitica « HO. TEIN: Stop misrepresenting. ‘TWE COURT REPORTER: 1 need one at + time, Pr, 561.662.0905 ~ Pax. 561.682.1771 1655 Pim Beach Lakes Bivd., Sue S00 - West Palm Beach, FL 33401 | | | Entered on FLSD Docket 06/30/2008 Page 5 of 35 t) Associates Page i¢ 0. Yow know that he had # press conference, don't you, yes or no? A. Tee. Q. am fact, let's ge to Pxhibit 20-B1. WR, GOLOBEAGER: Look behing you. You'll nee it. Br un. TEIM: 0, Have you ever seen thet picture before? A. tes. Q. Ip that « picture ef your father, your seepmother and Mr. Merman at the press conferance regarding your laweelt? aA Tee ©. Sew you know that this is very serious matter, don't you? We. LEOPOLD: Asked snd answered. Cejectien. MR. GOODRERGEA: AL right. Yoo cat cbject. You're representing a witness here, Mr. Leopold, You can cbject on privilege grounds. You cannot wake legal objections. You hewe ne standing to do po. WR. LEOPOLD: I°m going to make then and then WR. GOLDOERGER: We're — Ph. 561.682.0905 - Pex. 561.682.1771 1555 Pukr Seach Lakes Bivd., Suite 500 - West Palm Beact, FL 33401 insor & Associates Page 16 Wh. LEOPOLD: 1 Think we're qoteg to take a Deest, Perhaps you sight want to talk to your comune my. TEIN: I don't need to talk to him. WR, LROPOMD: fut we're going to tal bresk. WR, TRIN] We'se not taking # break unl che witnees needs 4 break. You're Gbstructing thin deporition, Ted. ——— You ell want to continue in this demeanor -- MA. TED: You're obstructing the Gapeaition. Stop making speeches. We're not discursing this with you. The questions are to your chient. Go take your five-minute break, WR, UBOPOLS) Fine, Se need to make sure the record's clear and clean. and T want to make sure, an I've already asked you — J Brow that you're one of the best in town <= that this audio -- this seeds to be preserved. Ckay? MA. TEIN: Gp take your five-minute Dresk, Me. Leopold, now, Ph, 963.682.0905 - Fax, 561.682.1773 1655 Palm Beach Lakes Bivd., Sute $00 - West Palm Beach, FL 33401 EFTA00222258

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Case 9:08-cv-80119-KAM Document 15-2 & Associates Raper st Trance, fo You were supposed to be here at nine it's now after two. Take your break and come back. WR, LEOPOLD: Okay. ff the deneanor keeps up, we will not be here beyond thoew five mist Wh. TREN: Take your Break and come back. MR. LROPCLD: Okay. Bo T supgest that you elas. We, TRIW: 7 maggeat thet you take your break. wh, COLOUERGER, Let thee take that five-minute bresk. MM. LEOPOLD! fut F would suggest thet you take deep benatha. MR. TETH: Suggest whatever you want. Go take @ breax. (Thereupon, © recess was taken.) oy em. TRIM: @ | ag agree that giving testimony today at your depeaition is somthing very serious, don't you? ‘Yes, Jed you renpect the court, den"t you? Yes. Let me show you Exhibit 7-093. Can you Ph, $61,682.0905 - Fax. 963.682.1771 1655 Polm Beach Lakes Givd., Suite S00 - West Palm Beach, PL 33401 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/30/2008 Page 6 of 35 peed that out loud, please. Okay. Wat do you want? Will you read that cut loud, please. on. Thank you. Lo) bab wy Baddd...lol yah i got some stupid court shit on the 20tR...bulishit...and damm you still have court shit with Ria? Like after #0 long wow dm sorry... well yah well we will definitely herta make plans for sure..becaune 4 aiss u tend tines a million and no ne no 4 lowe you...0 and p.s. 4 love ur default pic eiggaa. Mua x0, © ©. OA you send that message est week to « frlend of yours om MySpace? A, 2 woulda’ know. ‘There's no dates and I've elated that MySpace, a0 ~~ We're going te talk about that in # second. Chay, Dic you send that message last week ~~ hight. Lat we fints® my question. Did you vend thet senaage last week to a felent of yours cn Mylpece? a I wouldn't know the date, but coriously, it's to # friend. Pn. 561.682.0005 - Pax, 561,6821771 2655 Palm Geach Lakes Btd., Suite 500 - vest Palm Beach, FL 33401 Fage 19 Q. Ad you send that manaage to # friend of yours on MySpace? Sure, yea. Were you referring to thia deposition? Yes. Oo you find the term n=i-g-g-e-r offensive? ‘That's not anywhere in there. wnat word 4 you use in there? WR, ZROPCED: where are you referring to, Counsel? ‘There's 20 plus words in there. ‘WR. TEIN: Don't sake 2 speaking objection. THE WITNESS: Are you referring te ‘.) anyching == MR. LEOPOLD: io, a=: == don't == let him ask you the question. mY mm, TRIN: ©. What question ware you asking, |G W@. LEOPOLD: She doesn't ask questions. You ask the qeestiens. What is the question pendicg? BY me. TEIM: a RR ss te tase wore oa chore ts the tant of your message before the clasing? Lo Riggae. ©. Don't you find ther tere oftensiver Ph. 561.682.0905 - Pax. 562.662.1771 1655 Pale Beach Lakes Bivd., Sule 500 - West Paim Seach, FL 33401 ) Bape Wh. LADPCLD: Can you spell it for the record, pissse. THE WETHESS) MHt-g-g ~~ WR, TRIN: Wo, me, no. Yeu are not going to be asking questions. MH. LEOPOLD: 3" not asking questions. I'm asking for the record the word to be spelled, because we don't have s video here today. ‘MR. TEIN: These exbibits are part of the xecord. You —- wa. eopcnd: Well, it's mot marked as an io) exnibit. MA. TEIN: stop Antercupting me, Mr. Lecpold. 1 have marked and idestified as an exhibit and you will get it. 1. LEOPOLD: There has been 70 Adeatification of this docunet Ln the record, wa. TEIN: Me. Leopold, stop interrupting this Geposition. *@. LEOPOLD: What is the exhibit nasber marked for identification? wh. TEIN: 31-001. WR, CROPOLD: Do we have copies? fs it on the recerd anywtere? Ph. 561.682.0905 - Fax. 561.682.1771 1655 Pale Beach Lakes Bivd., Suite 500 - West Pain Beach, FL 33401 EFTA00222259

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Case 9:08-cv-80119-KAM Document 15-2 lan) Page 21 - BY WR. TRIM: 0. Let me ask you, id you is fact write your friend this message abut this deposition? a tes, a So you wrote your friend teat this Gepesition is stupid court a-Pe int, correct? a tw ©. Because you think this deposition is stupid court s-Pei-t, don't yoo? Wo. You wrote that to your friend, dide'® you? Ye You think that court is stupid, don't you? In some cases, And you think that court ia bul a-Rek=t, Wo. ‘And you think this depasition is ball achei-t, don't you? wrote that to your friend, dica't you? LEOPOLD: Objection. Asked and ‘TRIM: That's not an ebjwctica. i) - Ph. $61.682.0905 - Fax. 561.662.1772 1655 Paim Geach Lakes Biva., Suite 509 - West Pain Beach, FL 33401 tf) Page 23 bY MR. TRIM: e a. think that giving teatineny teday, under cath, is Ball e-h-a-t. n't you? A. Mo . And you wrete that te your tziend on MySpace Inst week, dice"t you? WR, LROPCED: Objection. Asked and snmwared. ‘THE wiTwEss: Wo, f aid not. You dien't write this exnipat? 7 J weote that, but = didn’t write what you C) a You wrete in this exhibit, “I got some Stupid court s-h-i-t om the 70th. Bull s-h-i-t." Didn't you write that? a Yes. 0. Referring te this deposition, didn't you? a eferring to the court. I war leter informed thet it was & deposition. e I'm going to ask you some questions now about what happened when you went to Jett Epatein’s house three years ago. Okey? a Uh-huh. Oo ©. whan the police interviewed you one month \ Ph, 561.662.0905 ~ Pax. 561.682.1771 1655 Pale Beach Lakes Bivd., Suite 500 - West Pom Beach, FL 33405 Entered on FLSD D et 06/30/2008 Page 7 of 35 & Associates Reman g ant Hreemigan, Page 22 Yoo wrote that to your friend, dice's your MR. LRORCID: Objection, Asked and answered, for the fourth tine. wh. TRIN: You axe Leproperly cbjecting, ME. Leopesd. You heve ao grounds to cbject. And that's sot an objection. Wx. AbOROLD: It Sa an objection. wR. TRIN: Then terminate the deposition if you think it's been asked and answered. tek. KEOPOLD: Counsel, T am not precluded from just aating an objection to the fore of the question. As the courts well know, anc if you peaction here in West Pals Reach, macy of the Judges require you te sat che objection with specificity. And f will do that, Asd if yeu i don't want me to, you can make the record. Gut 7 | wita do that. MR. TRIM: Nere's what we'll do, Ted. tow can == I will allow you to ceserve am oijection to form for every single ome of my questions. Otherwise, all you're doing 4 obstructing. MR, LEOPOLD: © f won't do that. MR. TEI: Of courses becaune you want to obstruct. MR, LEOPOLD: ALL right - Ph, 561.682.0905 - Fex. 561.682.1773 1655 Palm Reach Lakes Bive., Suite 500 - West Palm Beach, F. 32402 Page 24 after you went to Epstein's house, you swore en your ave that you and Epstein dic not engage in Bex Oidn't you tell that to the police? A. Yes, And twill continve, 2 have never bed with his. o. Did what happened upstoirs et Jett xpotein's noune tee you conplately by surcrise, BD 1” a Yea. ow the civis complaint that you tiled 11 a. 12 agsinst Me. Epstein for fifty million dollars alleged H 33 that you were tatatly shocked by whet happened ween you : 14 got thaze. 1 ] a Yes. i 16 ©. exe you totally shocked by wnat happened | n whan you got to Epstein's house? ! 18 AL tee. ! ity ©. You dida't expect it at ail, did your , 20 AL ie. i 2 @. You had absolutely o idea why your friend i 2 a7 taking yeu to Epatein's house, right? ! 2 A. twos Snfermed it wus @ massage. 24 @. ALL you thougit that Lt was going to be was j i Pty a massage, correct? Ph. 561.682.0005 - Fax. $1,682.271 i i EFTA00222260

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Case 9:08-cv-80119-KAM Document15-2 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/30/2008 Page 8 of 35 sor & Associates Wrsor & Associates ee Tem tm Page 25 Page 26 1 a. Yee ) | 2 ©. Before you got te Kpatein’s house || } 1 Q. You're gure that ~~ let me sak the question in. 3 never said anything to you on the telephone akeut sexual 2 - 3 . ¢ ‘ activity with Epstein, did sbe7 You're sure that Before you got to s a to ' 4 Xpstein's house no one tried to perwusde you te engage in i s semual oct i 2 6 @. And before you got to Epstein's house H jal activity with Epstein for money. Are you? | | 7 wae seat you & massage aver the Internet about ; ; ¢ MR, LEOPOLD: Objection. Asked and 7 le 8 aexoal activity with Epstein, did she? | answered. Py A ote. ' 6 THE WITSESS: Mo. And I've already 9 ‘10 a. Did ; or tzy to comvince you to anmvered that 2 bariliion ties. 1 19 BY wR. TELM: 1 engage in any sexual activity with Epstein? 2 A. Bo : a @. Me's couching you nw. 50 I'm going to ask 7 12 the question — ) 13 Qo © Ded mm: try to convince _ ) 3 wm. “ 5 u you to engage in any sexual activity with Rpetese? ~ 3 LEOPOLD! Counsel, I've made an | 14 15 A. T dee"t know oo ED ' objection for the record. H ! is wR. TEER: j le G. be you have @ friend [| ; 1 TEIE: Stop speaking. i ” r wo. 1 16 MA. LEOPOLD: I'm aot going to stop ‘ v tt 7 " ” . is 0. Okay, Before you went a0 Epatein's house i spesking. You can't interrupt ae whee I'n making i 18 the record. 1 did anyone call or e-mail you to indece you to engage 19 i i 19 . wate: ; 20 poxuel activity with Spstein? j MR. TEEN: You're oosching the witaess, 20 . - j 2 a We | 2m. LEOPOLD: Counsel | 7 22 @. 80 you"se sure that before you got fo i 1 MR, TRIN: Stop comchiag the witoess. | j 22 By mR, TRIM: 23 Epstein's house ne one tried te persuade you to engage in | H 2 - 2a sexual activity with Jeffrey Rpstein? | 3 e a det me ask you : 2s A. Bo. MH, LEOPOLD: If you continue to - a MR, TRIN: Step interrepting my questions, ! Ph. 561.682.0905 - Fax, $61,682.1771 1655 Paim Beach Lakes Bivd., Suite 500 - West Palm Beacn, FL 33401 Ph, 961.687.0905 - Fax. $61.682.1771 1655 Palm Beech Laas Blvd, Sue S20 - West Pain Beach, PL 33402 | | oO Page 27 ’ MR, LEDRLD: Tf you do tt ene more time, ey Page 28 | 2 we're leaving. ! a pe. TEIN) Stop misrepresenting the record ! 3 BY mh. TRIB: ! 2 ead cals Gown. f'm going tO ask ay question. | 4 . = | 3 stop ite | s wm. LECPOL®: I'm going make the record. | ‘ Bt MR. TETH: | 6 You caanot iaterrept me whec making the | 5 e. | & | ? record, Out of professional conduct, you cannot y ‘ MB, LEOPOLD; of think the record is very | e do that. I'm entitled to mate the secerd. [ mace } 7 clear. | 9 an objection, asked and answered. Your demeanor 8 Wh, GOLDREMGER: tat me just clarity F 10 is inappespriate, You're willing and you are able ® sceethizg. When you object to the form of « u and you're responsible to ask « question in « i 20 question, you're tet isatructing the witness not | to answer the question, are you? n professicnal semes, and ask the question and once ' 2 you get the snever, to either follow up om it oF ; 2 we. LEoPOUD: Mo, Asd I'm not making thet ; “4 nove om, but act comtinuously browbeat and ask the : ay ebjectians only on sttorney/olient privilege. + sane question over aed over because you don't like ! uu wa, TEIN: WLLL you stop speakiag new #0 7 | J 15 can ask my questice? are you done? | 16 the answer, Okay. I'm going te ask ay question. nv MB. TEIN) Calm down, sir. BY WR. TRIN: 18 Ye, LEOPOLD: Trust me, I'm very calm bere. : 9 chen I'm not calm, you'll bnow ie. I'm wary calm. 1s . tsten, EP 20 So please contizwe on. Sut I wil not ! 9 wr. LAOPOLD: Held on. Stop. a allew you to continue te ha: ter in the 20 I've been doing thia for 22 plus yoers end i 22 demeanor that you're doing, Ask ber a questice 2 pave met 2 lot of attarneys, but I've never had an 23 ang mere on 22 experience Like this where 2've —~ " 23 *m. TEIM: Stop your speeches. i 7 MR. TRIB! Are you done? MA. LSCEORD: If you continue to do this, 25 MA. LEoRCED: Taank you. f am. whethex it's with se or with my client, I wiii not Ph 961.682.0905 - Fane. 561.682.1771 1655 Palm Beach Lakes Bivd, Sue 500 - West Palm Besch, Fl. 33401 EFTA00222261

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Case 9:08-cv-80119-KAM Document15-2 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/30/2008 Page 9 of 35 & Associates Reyerne one Matec, Soe f)\ | oe al | hoa pot up with it and T don't seed to put up with se} j tC) | - pe ome he end it's mot sppropelate, dad I'm sure . commas wane eee OR ” ' 2 a tness noda head up and down.) : 2 Me. Goldberger knows 933 this, because T ksow that galt never e-mailed you, did he? ‘ he wouldn't Go this. f¢ I will act put ap with 7 . _ Bs . 5 it. and 2 think it's bighiy inappropriate to do ! ‘ - Jott never text measaged you, cid ke? 6 this with this child eitting here, the way you're . . eet nme ™ A te : 7 acting, peimerily towards we, snc f will not put i . ; | ? 9. gaff nerves chatted in 2 chat foam with you, i & up with it. : | did het : 9 Wa. TEI) Wid) you please stop your speech . “ a0 so 1 can ask quantions? | ad ~ | Before you got to Epatein's house you hed it fm, LEorOLD! $0 cag a2 you act | " ° a toe ! n never spoken to Jeff, had you? professionaliy, 7 will 45 90. But 4f you continue 22 a We. re] g. And before you got to Epstein’s house yoe ) to do it this way, 1 wild Leave. | wm. TELS: Suit yourself. Featein's Youse wo one tried te persuade you to engage 4m u“ had raver met Seff? 1s A. Correct. @ you sure that before you got to Before you got te Epatein's house you bad 16 e 7 never told Jeff that you were under 18, right? sexual ectirity vith Epstein for money? 28 a. Me. 4M, LEOPOLD) Arked and answered. Before you got to Epstein’ house had you Objection. 9 Q- wer told Jeff: that you were under 16? ' , THIN: Did you get her answer? ‘ 2 - —_ H 2 A. Mo, -F never spoke to the wan before that, ' ‘TRE COURT PEPORTER: Woe, I did not. i 7 I 22 0. and yoo only went to Jett Epateta's house Tae WITNESS: I'm wore. : that one tine three years ago, correct? a OM fet me ank you @ tow questions about your 3 ° You paver went there apala, correct? Ww . — Ph, 961.662.0905 - Pa, 561.682.1772 | VU = — ' 1655 Pulm Beach Lakes Bivd., Suite 500 ~ West Paim Beach, PL 33401 Ph, 561.682.0005 - Fae, 561.682.1772 ere ae! & Associates | Raporens a6 meer ean tow | Fam Page 31 oO ! 1 i a Hes 2 e ALD right. Let ae ask you two fine) areas ° you ever oven, her befose? 2 a ‘Mo, air. 3 of questicaing about this ond we'll move onto sasething ; je, chaye 3 o- You told tae pelice thet when you rode over s a i-mch. Yes. sorry ' 4 te Bpstein’s you hed no idea who she was, Fight? ' 4 A. Correct. 6 oe. Before you got to Epatein's did anyone ' ‘6 . You told the . 7 associated with Epstein ever call you on the phone and 1 . . police that you didn’t know 8 try to persuade, induce, entice or coerce you to engage ! , her nana, but she was Like really dark, Hisd of 1ike o H t) Spanish girl? 9 in any sexual activity? | Yee. 10 A Moe H Tho rel @. afore you got to Dpatein's did anybody : ae ware your words, right? 7 w 12 assecioted with Bpatein ever contact you oo the Interset be now know who 2 13 ana try to persuade, induce, entice or cowrce you eo you now one 18? 3 A Wo, wir. M4 engege in any semesl activity? as a a o. «Bo St was a told you to lie about us your age to Jeff Rpsteiat 16 a RB e008 22 ee teem wee ' monte a ™ sir, 2 Jeff Epatein's house you should ite to Jeff about your 7 as one? ” o. And a told you that if yeu weren't 18, i 18 7 ' n wouldn't Jet you into Bie house, right? | - A That - . 7 20 @ maa ae a. was At the other gifl tn ' eer yee ' . ALL eight. . 2 the car who you rede ower with to Epateia's house? } bg right. Let‘s tabs for a minute about wean you fist met Jeff. Okay? 22 a a a @ out how eld you were, right? sure. Uno was the other girl in the car with you When you fiest met Jeff he tried to fins thet day? 25 A. -T Romestiy deat knew. AL Excuse ne? Pr. S61.682,0905 - Fax, 561.682.1772 1655 Palm Beach Likes Bive., Suite 500 - West Pain Beach, FL 33403 Ph, 561.682.0905 - Fax. 561.682.1772 ——— — 1655 Paim Beach Likes Bivd., Suke SOO - West Paim Beach, FL 33401 EFTA00222262

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Case 9:08-cv-80119-KAM Document 15-2 Page 33 Wen you first met Jett be tried to tind e cut Rew @lc you were, Fight? A. Nok when we first Sntroduced each other; when we get spataixs, then, yes. 0. During the massage Jeff ashed you bow old you were, correct? AL Mea, e ersistant, yes. Wow hadn't yoo already told Jeff's the ene who walked you upstaiza, that you went to coblege and had just roves dew here trom ohio? I newer spoke to the Lady. De you want to rethink thet answer? ©) mn, LEOPOLD: Is thet # question? fo you want te rethink that answer? ' wo, I dicn't really speak with haz that | | Do you want to try to refresh your memory | WR, EROPOLD: o you have something to i eatrerd Dex memory with? / ‘0. TEIB: Do you want to stop saking . spesking objections? ' wh, LEOPOLD: So, But te refresh scmcone'# , memory, you show thas & Gocement. UY Ph. S61 682.0908 - + Fen. 563.682.1772 3655 Pom Seach Les Bc Sue S09” Wes alm Beaty FLING! 2) 0, You can answer the qaesticn, A. Bare, 0. Ts there anything that would refreah your wenory that in fact you told Mr. Epstein"s assistant, the one ao walked you upstairs, that you went to college and you Dad just moved down hese from Chic? A. 1 don't remember saying that, but if you -- Tt don"t cemenber saying thet ayself, so -- @. Tat would be a lie, right? A. Me. TE seally don’t remember, ©. $0 you teld Jeff that you were 18 years 7 old, connect? 0. Bo you remeber Detective Michelle Pegan of the Police Separtment, Palm Seach Police Department? Yon. Do you remember you spoke to her? Yes. Do you remember that you told Detective when you Lied about your age te Jeff you said At really fast because you didn’t want to make it sound Like you were lying? A. E don't remember the words exactly, but I do rewenber telling hax I told hin f was 18. o) 0. and do you remerber telling Detective Fagan Ph 561,682.0905 - > Px 561.882.1771 1655 Palm Beach Lakes Bhd., Suite 500 - » tweak Pain Beachy P3901 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/30/2008 ee 20 a1 2 13 a ss 16 vv uw at) 20 2 22 23 Page 10 of 35 Page 34 MR. TEIN: 1 knew how te do this. MR, LEOPOLD: Then show haz # doowvent, Stop speaking. I'm not going te stop WR. TE: wR. LEOPOLD: speaking. I"p going te continue to sake the record, un, TET) You're cbsteweting. Please | atop. WR. LEOPOLD) I'm not obstructing. Sut if you went to refresh ber recollection, you nees to show hex sonsthing. ‘That's mot » proper question. f abject to the foundation and the prechcate of thas qesstion. . TREN: Are you doxet wm. LBOPCLE: 1 am mow, Thank you. BY wa. TELM: @. «De you want te try to refresh your memory as to whether you had any conversation with the woran whe walked you upstairs in Rpstein's neuse in which you told beg that you want te college and had just saved down from ohio? Object to tLe . LEOFOLD: cbjection. fore of the question. Lack of foundation ond predicate. BY Mm, TERN: Ph. 561.682.0905 - Pare, 563.662.1772 1655 Pale Beach Lakes Bivel, Ste $00 ~ = West Palm Benciy P3340 tage 36 what when you Lied to fpstein about your sye that you said it ceolly fast 20 Tpatein wouldn’t realize you were ayang? mo, I don"t remenber saying those words I remember tolling hee that F told a exactly to ber. Epstein 1 was 1F- o Detective Pagan that you said your age resily fast to Does it sound Fight to you that you told Epsteia -- MS. NELOMLAVEX: Objection, Asked and answered. DY MB, TEI: Q. «== 40 he wowlan’t think that you vere Lying? MEREOLD: Abjection, Asked and anawered, lack of foundation, mischaracterisation of her waxlier tostincny, She's already snawered that question. By MR, Term: e Yoo can answer it. | Sase objection. It's been MR, LEOPOLD: asked and answered. You cen answer. Iive nade the objectien. He WETWESS: [ forget the question, now, Ph, 561.682.0905 ~ ~ Fax, 561.582.1771 i 1655 Pte Bon ats Bh, Ste $0 ~~ West Palm Beach, FL 33402 ' EFTA00222263

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O Case 9:08-cv-80119-KAM Document 15-2 Q, bet me put it again. Does st wound right to yow that you told Detective Pagan thet when you Lied about your age te Jetfray mpatein, you said it reslly fast because you didn't want to make it sound Like you vere iying? MA. LEOPOLD! Objection. tack of foundation, seked and anawezed. TE WITWESS: I could have possibly thet, yes. BY MR. TREE: o You Gidn't want Mr. Epstein to know that you were lyiag about your age, right? A. Correct. 0. Yow didn’t want Mr. Spstein to know that you wete not 38 yet, right? a Comrect. 0. ‘You wanted Mr. Spstein to believe that you really were 19, sight? a. Correct. 0. De you remember whem Mm here you went to school? a Yer. ©. And you told Mr, Epstein you went te Wellington, right? 1655 Paim Beach Lakes Givd., Sulte 900 - West Paim Beach, FL 33401 Page 39 that woald de that to a Mitnesnes or to @ person that's sitting in this chair is not scting professiceally. You can't ask # question like thet. Yow can do at, but it's not proper. And net etnically. WR, TRIN: WLLL you atep? 1 2 3 4 5 i'm sure you weren't trained that way, cartainly ‘6 7 & not going te step, ? beckuse the way you're asking that question is impropes att you know it. Mn. TSIM: You're lowing your o002. py ma. TELM) 1 I'm very cala. us When f Lowe my cool, you'll know it. 1 SR. TEIN: T do know it. 17 By i, TEI: 1s | Me, aa Mer, Epstein never asked you co) to de anything otter thas massaye him, correct? 20 A. “Incorrect; Because he asked me to tate off 21 ny bea, 90 that would be two things he's asked me to do. 2 e Other than eaking you te take your bre off, 23 Mr. Epstein never asked you to do anythiag with his other 2 than marsege, correct? WR. LEOPOLD: Ob}ection, Teundation, Entered on FLSD Di oO ja that the truth? So. In fect, you went to Koyel Pole, right? ves. So you lied to Mr. Epetete again, correct? Yer. fe Wellington the colleqe that you told 3 Seff's assistant that you were attending? 19 A. F Gon't remember having thet conversation u with ker, 80 2 wouldn't imow if that's what = said. 12 e 3 Wh, LEOPOLD: That was # tie, though, wasn't it? Objection te the form of the “ question, lack of foundation. Yeu're making an 1s anpenption. she just answered you she can't tell 16 you that. n MR, TRIM: Speaking cbjection. And you u well know that, Me. Leopold. 12 WR. TADPOLD: «She can't answer Chat 20 question. The way you phrased that question, a you'se purposely making her net be honest in her 22 testimony. She can't asawer a question like that. 23 She doesn't remember. fo them you say, “So you 24 were lying.” That"® improper and you bnew that, ‘That's aot « proper question. Ard ony attorney Ph. 561.682.0905 - Fax. 561.682.1771 1655 Pain Beach Lakes Bivd., Suite 500 - West Palm Beach, FL 33401 THe WITHERS: Corsect. ey ma, TETR: Q. You toRd the police, 4m your words, that you did not whack ham off, right? Correct: wnat does that pean? wack, Like whacking off? weswraveuwne Your term, what does that meen? Masturbating. Me. ppatois never Eried at any time £0 grae aid he? mo. o. Nr. Rpstein never tried to put your Bass anywhere, aic het a, Be Q. At _no tine did you tech Me. Rpatein's penis, did you? aA. to. @. aad be aid mot touch you, oaFreCt? A. Tacorrect. ©. Web, you tele the police, "At Oo tine did tare you lying to the police then? to, well, I wasn't being tebly trutnfel, he touch a0." he but TE waan's lyang, "pr. 561.662.0008 - Fox. $61.682.1771 EFTA00222264 ocket 06/30/2008 Page 11 of 35

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| i Case 9:08-cv-80119-KAM Document 15-2 @. fou told the police euice when you wpoxe to Dida't Page 2 sicnelle Pagan thet "et no tine did be tooch me.” you say that to tne palice? A. Yeah, and you're saying that thet ves not tulay ying now? eruthfel, Is that vast you'Ts 2 2 3 4 s a € 7 a. Correct, 4 g. And you*ee saying Af you'e® not fully 3 truthful, that's not 6 lie, Correct? 10 A. You teak that out of context ake really 1 didn't sean Like that. Touching Y lege and =~ n bac. 22 na raver knpt nis hands to himself the entire tine. 3 ‘at's what I'm trying to ™ u Q. Tou told the police, “AE ne tines did be vos agree with that, correct? fo, I don't agsee with that, Because ne aid 18 @, Did you teld the police that he did not 13 touch yoo, you OF nT it's a possibility, but 1 ae nat remwaber- omay- And you dic not have aay type of sex correct? 23 a. (Mee And you did not have any type of oFR! sox correct? things, bet st wasn't joking sPouE ge ot alk. Q. Tou joked sdout ft, didn’t you? 2 3 nme ‘4 o. You said to =a if you did this 5 every weekend you'd be Fishy didn't you? ‘ a. Mo, That's what mm re. ’ fg. You didn't tes that © - e wm, 120pcLs: Oppectica. Asned and 3 answared. 10 tam wETHESS: Ho. Mm, TEM 2 @. Attar you istt Epstein’ s noase yoo took the 13 Ronay and you went sropping with SH a2 + oe 14 giz] de the car, coneect? Pt) un gneorrect. ¢ didn't spesd any of the ~ a moray you wont to Marshall's, didn’t you? = ° 1 went slong, yes, Dat 1 eidn’t —— ~ = > @. You want shopping with Shen at Marshall's, > » S 22 wR. WROWOLD: cbJection- 22 ‘cee witness; I quess you could say thet- 23 wm, sorOLD: Objection. Tack of predicate end foundation. Mischaracterieation of eariies teptinony. Entered on FLSD Docket 06/30/2008 Page 12 of 35 Page 42 Ne type of intercourse with Jeft, corrwet? Correct. ere r Ali right. Let's talk about what happened after the massage wae OVeE. A, Okey. G. After the massage, you told Bpatein chat yeu wanted te bring your twin sister back 20 she could 8 , wake some money, correct? Mw » Incostect - u 0. Your twin sister bs wae, 2 A. Correct. aed you love we euch, dan‘ you? “ a Ye And when you left the Rouwe you were joking 16 with the other girks, weren't you? a7 A. Tneorrect. 1s o. «Weld, when the other girh in the 19 car that day nade their statesante to the police wey 20 told the police that you were joking afterwards, Are you 21 saying thet thay were aying to the police about that? 22 A. Wo. But B gaestion oF =~ questions from 23 = Line ane asbes ne quastiona, bat it wasn't rT) Joking. She was Rind of iste in @ bagPy WAY like, "Oh, what éid you Go? what did you dor” bike those kind of 2 and we: 2 parse, right? 3 Yes. 4 0. And you were with ber the whole tine at 5 Harahali's, coreeck? 6 a 7 o. Bow tell me about wines the federal 8 presecotors told you shout getting reiabureed. 8 A. T have 29 idea what you're talking spout. 10 9. Tait ne about stan the feseral prosecutors n apoke to you about getting Boney 35% fee} you're entitled 12 te from Mr, Rpsteis. 33 nh. -E don"t imew what you'ze talking snout 14 @. 00 you know who Marte Viiierons is? ty Be Bey SARS 16 o pad you ever meet with any feseral ” promecutore? 18 ac T thiak <> year. 7 enink they were —~ 1 “Ww think they were Lhke FST, 20 0. Un-hun, Did you newt with federal 2 prosecutors? 2 A. They cane to By Rouse one time, YOR @. When did they come to your house? aA. Wary long 290 Q dns it this year, 20087 es 0905 - Fax. $61,682.77 EFTA00222265

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: Case 9:08-cv-80119-KAM Document 15-2 g 1 veneers CO Page 45 lagen, “ 2 A. Tt was not this year, Be : 2 o. was te 20077 H 2 A Me, abe H 3 a. 1'd awe to say at Teast ewe years ago OF & 2 wm. WeoeLD: cejection. Asked and : 4 year ago, yeah, So it would be 2007, 2006; bet it was @ - 3 answered. H 5 while ago. ! ‘ wr tm, TRIN: 6 9. How many faderei prosecutors oF FBI 5 G. -te if T say the wane to you Marie H ? came to your rouse? | 6 wislafone, you don't know whe that 13? H e A. tom teying co resenber. 7 want to say four ; ” a. We, Shee H 9 peopte came. ! 8 cg. Mow many wonen and how Bary sen ume 5° ‘ 10 a Dio they give you their business cards? i u A. FE they 4id, 1 don't remember, and they 40 A. L want to say two ladies and two guys | weren't toward we, taybe my parents have tiem 7 don't | pid somecne naned Jeffrey Sloman come 6° iC) | nid they give you theit ort phone nuxbers? O 13 A. Tan's know apes, Sir. | aa . a g. be you know who Jeffrey Sloman is? Gid you ever speak to them oc thelr cell : 1s A, May SR | H | be you know who Seffrey Sernan 187 H we, sie ‘ } Yes. : ” @. —- Bid they speak to your parenta? : | 18 @. that's the Lawyer who first sued Epstein on : | ‘Mat's something you'd have Te ask ay 5 | w your bebalf, right? : | 20 he. pe you know whether thay spoke to YOUr H | og. Mae Me. preman advanced your tansy any i 23 wa, LEOPOLD: Aey conversations that you're 1 i oO 2 pad with Mr. Herman regarding that 4 yos are a “ pox 961.882.1771 ¢ 2s not to disclose. TE you've learned in rome okher GES ain Scr Lanes Boe, Sate 500 West Palm Beach, 3340}. oe Y , a c) F ~ 2 fashion, you may anawer. 2 THE waTwEss: kay. : ‘@) 1 3 1 wouldn't know. { 2 5 did not select him, } t Br wR. TRIM: H 3 who did? 5 @. tou don"t know? t ‘ my father. é A Me | 4 fo. Bid you ever meet Mr. Rernae? 7 7 wR, LEorokD: Cbsectien. Foundasson. i 6 a. once ! 8 actorney/elient privilege. H 7 o. Don't -- don't tell me eat yoo discussed 1 % er un, TEI 8 with him, Shere cid you meet hin? ! e And you say yeu don't know who Jeff Sloman 3 a I was shopping in ay o+ be showed up at SY friend's house- / Wo, air- n 9. Waese Bouse? \ | © 3 cg. done St enfresn your recollection shat bets 12 - sient QE | “4 the masber twa prosecutor at the y.8. antorney’s Office? t de thet | a the Quarterdeck a A me i H | Q. That he's Marte Vilieteaa's bose? t is A Tere | AL Re ' ! 16 Q. and aid you have @ seating with his et | is @. bows it refresh your panory that be"e ene { { wm. i \ 29 exepartner of Jett Rerman, the firet Lvy¥e who sued : i 18 A, Yas, % goess yon could say SAt~ i 20 sued te. Epetein on your Denalt for tlety milion { ” fo. And who else wan there? H | 20 . wen | 22 A. Wo, ait, 1 Gon't know who he 18- n gp. And what wae thet meeting about? : 23 @. Bithost telling me any conversations that 2 ve. Ugorcna: objection. ‘That calls for ‘ i 24 you've had with your lawyers, how 38 it that you sebected attorney/client privilegt O 25 er, Merman on your lawyer feop the 62,000 members of the ay we, TEDW: 2 gq. What discussions did yor have With PR $61.682.0005 - Fax. $61,682,174 7 aSS al Wais> Lanes Bud; Suit S00 West Poi Beach. FL. 2803... ——— pn, 561,682.0905 ~ Fas, $61, 682.1774 5c aim Ba Cs va, ue 300 Wet Pe BEBCNPJPAO_ on EFTA00222266

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Case 9:08-cv-80119-KAM Document 15-2 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/30/2008. Page 14 of 35 Page 50 2 tec, Harman in the prenence il! ra) ~ Way cid the meeting take plaor iz 2 a. Mone, 3 Q. Moat discussions did you Reve An the 1 spent the sight that night st Ber hosse. ‘ 4 preaenoe of her aunt? ! : And when was this? : $s a. Of my aunt? . A ale age. é pe. GOLDRERGER: It's the witness's gant. H How long #go? vein: : : : . 4 A. A sonth and # Balt ago. 8 ©. oh, Of your sunt. a and a helt ego? J a» ‘the only one that we've ever dascessed oF ponth Lo ‘Uh-bun. 10 . So wea it before of after Me, Herman filed u e aed go you were ine conversation with : a the Cifty~millicandoblas lawsuit ageinat Keates? 12 Me. Merman and your sunt? - r | 12 n After. ( ) 2 A, Faw, Site ~ . QO 3 o. kd you meet with an FST agent naned uu Q. And you discuswed privileged matters during ) ' u Weabitt Markendall, « woman? 5 that conversation? ok ! | 15 A. T dante know, | 16 wm. teoponD: abject te the form, I thi | | 16 Q. id ms. Murkendal speak to you about ' i a7 you might have to educate her on that question: | t | W getting reimbursed from Mr. Bpatein? | | st WR, TEIN: ! ‘ ‘ a8 A. -Tive naver had a discussion with anyone i j 0. You discussed the Lawsuit? Hl H ‘ | oc) about getting reimbursed from ME. Epstein, : i a” | ' 0. Have you met with an agent named Jason ! 21 @. naa uaa: you about any | 7 1 | Richards? ! 2 conversations that she had with Mr, Nemmar ! H - 7 22 A. Wet to my knowledge. ‘ 23 fh. Aa fax as 178 concerned, she's never apoken H Bow about an sgent named Tim Slater? 24 or ane"s never ned a conversation. she only opened She No, sit. and then left, She's che ane who answered ‘the door. ; U = =~ _ 2 Q. ow about an agent pared Junior ortiz? : a Ph. 961.682.0905 - Fax. 961.882.1773 ; . — . : Tass aE Ban Las Ste 500 West Pm Bede BO} ———— . Ph, 561.562.0505 - Fx. 961.682.1773 ==" y55 pum Booch Lakes Biel, Sube 500 West Pelm Beach, AL 33402 Page Si Lemmaecee lanes ee 0. And we've Mesrned that many of the giris, 1 meemared 9 victia notification Inter, correct? some of whom axe os old as 23, were told by the : 2 rect. jovernmunt that ad it thi - * chey would get seney at the end of the , 3 @. Aad your testinony is that you don't know criminal prosecution, at fami 7° rininal pros jam. Does that pouad ans be yew ‘4 Af yoor parents have ever received # vietix notificstion A. Mo, sie. ' s letter, correct? . ne me. 1 ee ©. Other than Me. Lecpold bere == I'm not 6 A. Corset. asking about Mr. Borman either =~ ; 7 0. Rave you g4ves any evidence to prosecutors A. Obebih. e or Jaw onforcesent in this case? ! 0. =~ did anyone ever discuss with you that y' iad s A. What do you mean by evidence? could get reimbursenent for your st you your denage: 2 1 0. Well, Anything that you can touch or feel, A. Boy wir. - 11 A. Me. 0. ad you or any wember -- O y 22 %B. LROPOLD: CbIection te the form of the tm, LEOPOLD: Are you referring to « ~ you refercing J 3 question. criminal natter or # civil matter? 14 SY MR, TEI: py MR. TEIN: 45 ©. 80 you Maven't gives anything physical ~~ ©. Bag yeu oF any member ~~ 1 ue A fo. M&. LEOPOLO: Excuse me. Lat we object to 17 Q. any item te any prosecuter, police of the question. : 6 officer of law enforcement agent, correct? ’ rr) A. thy cal) phone foar years age or three yeors Did you or any menber of your family ever 20 apo, but that's it. get a victie notification letter trom anyone? 2 2. You gave your cell phone te wace? A. Tmo longer Live at that resicence and T 22 A. Michelle Fogan woslds't knew. 23 0. DEE she Rewp it? 0. So your testimony 1a that you have naver 1 Cy . 7 a4 A. ASR her, | Ph. 561.682.0905 » Fix. 961.682.1772 * 2 o You gave it to her and then you didn't get <= 1655-Pabm Beach Lakes Bivd,,.Sube 500 - West Pain Beach, A. 33602 0 a PR SOL SRI INOS TTC SOL SELITIIN n | 1685 Palm Beach Lakes Siva, Sutte 500 - West Fam Beach, AL 53401 : EFTA00222267

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Case 9:08-cv-80119-KAM Document 15-2 oC Page 53 - it back at the end of the meeting? A. So, Thay == yeah. So. They have St. Ite geessing. = doen't have it 0. How much mowey axe you hoping to gat out of fie, Epstein? MM. LEOPOLD: Cbjection to the form of the question. Attorney/client privilege. a, TEDe: 0. Now much maney are you hoping te get, yourself, hoping to get out of Epstein? MR. LROPCID: Same, Sune objection, attorsey/client privilege. an font answer the question. T'm not asking about what your lawyer told MR, LROPOLD; T"R inetracting her not scawar the questice, because any of those conversations involve her counsel. MR. TRIM: Certaty that. MR. LROPOLD) Phe +++ sCEMTIFIED QuEsTION Br wm. TEDH: °. ~ Lied te get cut of this Sepesition, didn't you? ' 682.0905 - Fax. 961.682.1771 “Bee a en Ske Bd Sane #00 - Wet Po Banh, FC3401—~ "~~ Whosor & Associates Daperwng sou Tenasennpeem, bee Page 55 You asked your ce-workers =~ ‘MR. LEOPOLD: It's vague and smbiguous. 2. You asked your co-workers et the Quarterdeck Tavern to lie fer you, didn't you? aA No. T informed my boss about whet was going on and he told me that be would help in any way ‘that he can. 0. Okay. You got your tiene ap lie by switching sane tage vith you, correct? A. Incorrect. it was a coincidence that sane night she was not wearing her name tags she was wearing wine, Gut I was also not wearing ~~ I was weariag my Rveryone switches name toy Tt just se pane tag. bappens it was @ coincidence that same night the people came with the papers. MR, TELM: MR. GORDBERGER: and mark Will you put up Exhibst 18-Coas O01 for identification purporer to this depositicn. MR. LEOPOLD: Mone of then have been marked yet. Can we mark them and pot them as attecteent to the depositions? Because I think you've shoun three photos now, Aad this is the only one that ee “Ph 561.682.0305 «Fae. $61.682.2771 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/30/2008 Page 15 of 35 Page 54 | ~ A. Moy G. You didn't want to come to court today and tell the story that you bad told to the police under oats, did you? WK. LEOPOLD: object to the form of the question, Lack of foundation, predicate. ‘Tit HITMESS: Ho, 1 have no prablew coming : here and talking te you. 0. And te avoid getting served with 2 lawful subpoena, you iied about your name, dign't you? wo. fod ts fact, Jost tying yourself wawn"t | a o enough, was it? MR, UROROLO: question. Don't answer it. Objection te the form of the It's not a question, tien. Lack ' Ghject to the form of the que of foundation. Wh. TEIN: Are you destructing her not to answer? | . BROPOLD: I am. Certify it | - LEOPOLD: FR a _ Ph, 961.882.0905 - Fax. 361.682.1771 {ass Pate Beach Lakes Bive., Suit S00 - West Pall Bsc PLSBSOT— - has been marked for identification yet. BY te, TRIM: WR. 2EOPOLD: . Hold ce just @ second. Just ' se the recoré 4s clear ~~ MR, TEIN: I's not speaking to you. Okay, Then don't speak to me 1 then, But 7'll speak to or. Goldberger, perhaps. MS. LEOPOLD: Sut at least for the record, can we pet om the record what the previous two photographs were marked for identification? , MR, GOLDRERGER: We will make sure that the fecord is elear at the end of the deposition 90 LY that there's no ambiguity. i ; mex. LEOPOLD: © Thank you. H SY on, Team: 1 0, GMMR tree pur 2 protograph marted 18-901 up ce the screen. Uo you soe that? i j A. up. @. Who ds that in the photo? i a. =e left and me on the right. e right? A te °. _—z your friend at the 7 i Quarterdeck Tavern, Fight? | or - : — Ph, 561.682.0905 - Fax, 561.682.1771 H Somme" 1555 PRN Beach Lakes Bivd., Suite S00 - West Pain Basehy PL'33401——~ _~—| EFTA00222268

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Case 9:08-cv-80119-KAM Document 15-2 Cy Page 57 a. Yes. o _. friext, vee you say the day that the process servers went to serve you with # subpeena for this deposition, juat happened ~~ just by coincidence, was wearing your nawe tag? A. Yea, sir. 0. And Just dy coincidence, you vere wearing her name tag, correct? a, Yes. 0. Fear testimony under cath ds that's juat « coincidence, right? A. ‘Total Nonesty. O e Tt Just happens to be the day that you were going to be served with o subpoena, correct? A. That wasn't the first day that =~ wm, LEOPOLD: GAY ivet answer the qoestion, it calls for « yes or ao. ‘THE WITNESS: Yes. @. You said that wasn’t the first Gey you were geing te be -- you thoeght you were being served with a Subpoens, correct? AL Correct. You knew before the day that you switched hat the process servers were Ph, 561.682.0905 - Max. 962.682.1771 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/30/2008 Page 16 of 35 TNT GSS PRINT BARC Lakes BV; SURE SOO West Palm Beach FL SMOD =" =n looking for you, dida't yout A Mo. knew =~ MR. LEOPOLD: Just onewer it. It calls for a yes oF no. Tae WITMEAS: Okay. Wo. BY te, TEIW: ©. Now you can expisis the answer that yoer cowmel stopped you from explaining. A. Okay. I work at Quarterdeck and people were telling me that people were looking for me, 30 yes, I wae aware that people were searching for me. Dut t had no idea who they were or what their intentions were, tut O 1 thought chey were just people I didn’t want to talk to. fo I fust didn't want to tala to thes. And every time they'd come to work 1 wasn't there, Aad 8 happens the hight that they caze in se and gy friend switched name tage. Mo big deal. @. «—-That'e @ lie, isn't itt MR. LEORCLD: Objection. Don't answer thet question, That's huraasmant and f will not allew it. Ne could ask the questions and we'll allow « Jury to make that detesmination, but not counsel. I witt not allow her to angwer that question. r wR. TEIN: Cextifty it. Ph. 561.682.0905 - Fax. 551.682.1771 “= —————"1655 Palm Beact Lakes Sivd_, Suite SOO + West Paley Beachy FESR40 = nm * © wm. LRopoLo: 1°12) certify it. «+ CERTIFIGD QUESTTON,......-- . Sne's answered that question. She's explained it five tines already. The fact that Counsel deesn't like the answer, that's 4 differest query. WM, TRIN: Stop making apeaking objections. WH. LEOPOLD: I'm not. I*m aot going to pul wp With it, because it's in appropriate, Jack, and you know it. 1 will not allow Counsel to berate & witne whether it's in « criminal case OF 8 Civil case, wether my client or -~ TEIN: Cale down. O LBoPOLO: Recuse me, Wo, I'm net going to allow it. That is not proper. MR, GOLDBEAGER: Okay. MR, LeowOLD: tf he wants to say that she's lying efter asking t five times and nex explaining in great deteil, he can do that, fut z'm act going to allow her to anmex, nor be harassed by him, t's improper. wa. ConctERGER: Okay. Sut your response that Counsel doesn't like the quistion == or doesn't like the answer =~ just let me finien. Oo MA. LEOPOLD) Absolutely. I wasn't going ee Ph 561.682.0905 ~ Fax, 561.662.1771 ‘T6SS Pal Beach Lakes Sid, Suits S06 - West Pulte BeseH, FCSS40T-~~* Page 60 to interrupt you. WE. GOLORERGER: Just requires us to say we Like the ansver to that question. And it's not you and I or you and Mr. Tein who are testifying bere. It's the witness, WR. LEOPOLD: fine, Sut after the sixth Line of asking the same question and then coming back and pointing « finger at hez and saying, "You're @ liar® ~~ MB. TEIN: That dicn*t happen. MR. LEOPCLD: That's fine. But I'm not going to allow her to answer that question, becuase she's answered that same question and has axplaized it. Wow Counsel sight be sitting there rubbing his head with a migraine. That's his problem. fut af he can’t ask a question apprepriately in a ional manner, we will lesve, I will not prof allow her to be berated Like that. WR. GOLDBERGER) Acsually, we'se very happy with the sewer. oh. LEOPOLD: That's great. MR. GOLDOERGER: fo you want es to get inte Ph. 561.682.0905 - Fax. 561.682.1771 GO ~ essen" 1555 Paltfi Baath Lakes Bive., Sutte SOO’ Wiest Palm Basch PC: EFTA00222269 ——

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Case 9:08-cv-80119-KAM Document 15-2 Page 6) This is really big stuff that O you're going through, But that's finer just ask your question and move on. Sut de it ces tine. If you don't understand it, ‘ll let you follow =p, but I's not going to allow you to ask the same question time and again and then call hee # lier. Just ask the questica, get the answer and move to the sext eabject matter. MR. THIN: Ted, I'm sitting right across Seewrnneune the table from you. MR. LEOPOLD: Yes, air. Don't yeia. MA. TEIN: Please be quiet. WR, LHOPOLD! I will not Be quiet. Wt, TEIN: Stop yelling. W, LROPOLD: Lewis, when I'm yelling you'll know it. Wa, TEER: Twili not <= My name is cot Levis wm. Loreen: I thought your fizat same Lewis, Me. Tein, You watched me for three cays at wn. Ted the evidentiory hearing where you sat in the back of the courtrcea. You should know who I am. MR. LEOPOLD: Well, that's the impression you must have mage in the courtrous. Ph 561.682.0905 - Fax. 561.682.1771 en" 1655 Palfh Bact Lakes Bivd., Suke SOO™ Wee Palm Besch 7C33402—— a Entered on FLSD Docket 06/30/2008 Page 17 of 35 Cc) Page 62 haat wn. TEIN: That's obnoxious. Stop being cbnoxious, [t's stupid. Let's ge abead with the questions. ™. LHOPOLD: [ will wake the record. mm. TEIN: Let's get on with the questions. : MR. LEOPOR®: Bo yor need » break? (Thereupon, 4 recess was taken.} 0, Okay. QEParres you tora your aanager 7 at the Quarterdeck Tavern everything thet was going on and be told you he would belp you any wey he could, he hid you in the kitchen from the process servers, correct? O A Q. Tan't it true that lying to avoid service 1s a meaningless lie to you. > A. — Ineorrect. Incorrect. 0. What 4s your manager's name? I heve theese. Sowld you like to know i |. hota the one who Lied for you? Red what did a to lle for you? Said { waee"t there, | And who did he tell wasn't there? Ask hia. _ 1 i2h not be quiet. : oO = par a ara — a neon & Associates Page 63 , € 3) Page 6¢ o Where were you when tckd this ' ~ MR. TEIN) That's « coaching. someone that you were not at the Quarterdeck Tavern? MR. LEOPOLD: me. That's ae instrection to Eating nachos. the client. At the Guerterdeck Tavern? WW. TEIN; Mo. Yoo don't ds that. Yea. ‘THE WITNESS: Can you repeat the question? wnat did you do we that @-- lie te MR. LEOPOLD: tet me just state fox the the process severe for you? ‘ A. Mothing. You jest got Rim te lie for you, didn't ©. Once the police -- dan’e it true that i Me. Moatein's process servers had to ask the police te Mc, 2 had ne influence on him saying I get you out of the restaurast 90 that they could serve ye? O Me took thet upon himself? ' O a Incorrect. My boss called the police. zan't Lt crue that Mr. Rpateia's process @. and once the police showed up, to stop you servers had to ask the police to get you cut of the : from lying te avoid service, you made ep anether Lie that restaurant s0 that they could serre you? the process sexvers hed Barassed you. Isn't thet MR, LEOPOLD: Objection. Lack of correct? foundation, predicate. : Incoreect. BY MR. TEIN: You lie al3 the tims, don't you? 0. Yow cam answer the queation, MR. LEOPOLD: Objection. MR. TROPOLD: TE you know. Don't gue THE WITHESS; Incozzect. The WITNESS: Mo, Can you repeat the BY MR. TEIN: questica? You have » MySpace page, den'® you? @.. TEIN: Don't coach. Mo longer do T have a MySpace page. T la Wa. LEOPOLD: r / ' U — Ph, 561.682.0905 - fex. $61.682.1771 "1655 Palm Beach Lakes Bid: Suhe 500 Wvest Palm Beachy Fi: 3340t——— i EFTA00222270

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Case 9:08-cv-80119-KAM Document 15-2 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/30/2008 Page 18 of 35 é BY Page 65 (a) Page 66 e When did you delete your MySpace page? . A. A couple days ago. | 0. Who told you te take your MySpace page down & couple of days ago? ‘ a. Mebedy. I'm sick and tired of MySpace. AL Wethiag ©. Well, we're going te come back to MySpace A. You do that. a. =a. gotng to ask you some questions about why you lie about your age a0 often, obey? MR, UEOPOLD: Objection to the form. @. Tou all of & sudden got sick and tired of MySpace and just = few days before this deposition you decided to delete your My®pace page, correct? Argusentative. Correct. BY MR. TEIN: Se eat aweawn oe Is that your testimony under 0. You 1ée about your age alk the time, dom’ Tes. Did you take your MySpace page down becasse you thowght the government sight sutpeena it? O a. Incorrect. 0. Hadn't your MySpace page bean up for over H three sontha before you took it down? \ peur ~ i-4 MR. LEOPOLD: Gbjection, argumentative. THE WITAESS: Incorrect. 8 O TEIN: You Lie shout your age to get body don't you? Incorrect. e piercings, & A. Correct, Rut 3 also ad made tons of ” a You have body pierciags, don't you? MySpaces over the last years. I just get tired of thes aed delete them because —- Grams -- and sake new ones. | Yes. » ‘o 0. —Me*re goleg to talk about that. You have four body piercings: isn't thet So you deleted your MySpace pege after you were already ender subpoena fox this deposition, correct? A. Correct | & 38 right? te Five. 2 S 9. Other than the piercings on your ears ~~ not talking sbowt that -~ " a » = What abcet the MySpace page dida't you want | AL Oh, then nov just one. y a O Ph, 561.682.0905 - Fax. 961.682.1771 | Pr, 563.682.0005 ~ Pam. 961.682.1773 | ~~ omen 1655 Palm Beach Lakes Bivd., Sule S00 West Palm Beachy Fl: 3340 mmm = mm mmm ~ ~~~ "4655 Palm Beach Laces Bive, Suite 500 West Palm Beach F-3340b—— = | | Q Page 67 Q Page 68 . i 2 And where is the one body piercing? 2 A. Belly. Yow tzy to look much older than you are, 3 o. Wen did you get that? ‘ i Tor my birthday, with my stepmother and my : A Incorrect. 5 Q. And you've lied about your age an your 6 e. And when was thet? ; MySpace pages, don't you? 7 aA Whee I was ld. H Lo Incorrect. e o Oxsy. So you hac that bedy piercing when °. Ali right. Let's look at Exhibit 26-012 9 you met Epstein, cozzect? i 19 A ‘Tt might heve been, or saybe that ~~ yeah, WS. BELORLAVEK: 26-0017 1 either my 16th biethday or ey 15th. I honestly don't : wn, rem: Yes. 12 fenenber. BY mm. TEIN: QO 13 ©. Wow you've Aled abost your oge to get into oO G. On Enis page you ited to everyone that you pty bars by using driver's Licenses thet aren't yours, ware 18, éidn*t you? is correct? a Correct. 16 an Incorrect. o Let's go te Exhibit 33. +) a. ‘Ace you swearing under cath that you've ! WS. BELOMLAVER: ‘That's 33-0937 a) never done thet! TEIN: Correct. Ty A, Yan, f swear ureer oath. J 20 @. And you've lied about your age to bey beer, @. Om this page you lied to everyone that you 2 correct? were 19, didn't you? 22 a Incorrect. ' a Incorrect. i 2 o You're swearing ander oath that you're ‘ MR. LEOPOLD: Just answer the question, 24 never Iked to stores abowt your age? ‘THE WITNESS: Oh, incorrect. ! 7 Tive never Lied to a store about ay age or | , O ' Oo : 7 Ph. $61.682.0905 - Fax, $63,682.1771 | Ph. 561.682.0905 - Fax, 561.682.1771 : ons = 1655 Palm Beach Lakes Brve.-Suite 00 —West Palm Beschy-P-33402—— = 3 - = 1655 Parr Beach Lakes Biva, Suite-S00 - West Palm Beachy Fi-33401=---= — EFTA00222271

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Case 9:08-cv-80119-KAM Document 15-2 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/30/2008 Page 19 of 35 sor & Associates Arpeting ad Tasso Tae (2) Page 70 , _ A. Correct. ‘There was a rule wany yoars go ! 0, «Now you can explain your anew: that you Rad to be 18 to have » MySpace. i @. Se you Lied about your age so you could A. E know that I hawe seea all of these and 7 Wow that this one ie sine. post on MySpace, right? no Can you go down? wm. LEOPOLD: Just for the record, you're polating to the phote, ‘THE WiTWESS: I'm pointing to —~ ©. Lets go back to the top one on this page, ' 2-01. Are you testifying now under cath that this 0. You're pointing Lo the one where it says Mydpace page where the headline says, “Twine do have sore 1 fun, and the Location is given as Lox, abbrevistion tor teuabatchee, and the age is 19, and it a» : am”. At your Ceatinany that you aid not post your age is 187 aA Correct. 0. that's yours, right? oO A. Conwect. That's mine fron @ couple years O eae? ; ago that I have not bean on, becawse I don't une that. A. Correct. : Please keep going Gown, please. And I think that's it, Q. Mow Let's go hack to the one that you ware because there's no ene ~~ just that one is mine. pointing to before cn this page, where it says your age o So the one you pointed to where it says is 18 and you lied sbout your age to post MySpace, okey? A. Ohehuh, yea. . «ALL Fight. Why did you finally put your your age is 1m, that's yours, correct? A. Corgect. tree age on your MySpace profile four days before you were schedules te testify before the Grand Jury? : A, E don"t iknow what you're talking about. ‘i. LEOPOLD: Tf you dan’ undexatand, ask 0. And when you wrote 18 as your age om your MySpace page, that was # jie, waan't it? A, Correct. 0. Bid you Lie about your myspace page back him to est the question again. uA. TEIN: Don't conch. i ‘then becesse you couldn"t peat on MySpace unless you were 167 - { 1o) - — | LU Ph, 561.582.0905 - Pax. 561.682.1773 Ph, 561.682.0905 - Fax. 562.682.0771 7 ——~ 1655 Palm Beach Lakes Bivd., Suite 500 ~ West Palm Beact; F-39401—=— -———~ < 25 <5 = 1655 Palm Seach Lakes Bivds, Sue 500 - West-Palm Baacr-FLIHOl——— ——— | Page 71 . ra) ‘TE WITHESS; I don't know which MySpace H 7 yos're tal aot. ! A ‘T dos*t know the nases. 2. Mow many different detectives have you met aver seat a Cetective Recetay? ct 2 «The MySpace page that you're just pointing te, weese i says you were 18. | A. Probaply # good six or seven, maybe, with on this case from Palm Beech? A Yes. 0. Did one of the detectives teli you before And you were Lying about your age, right? you testified in the Grand Jury that you should take your °. AL Ghebah, wyspace age and put your true age? ©. Why id you finally post your true age on your MySpace profile -- | @. Didn't Detective Recarey Rave to come to A We. a. Uh =~ 1 your howse to pick you up to get you to testify im front 1 0. -- four days before pou were schedaled te of the Grand ary? ~ testify before the Grand Jury? O a Possibly; maybe because I didn't have = a ft honestly don't know which MySpace, ' ride: T was ealy 1¢ or 15 at the time, because C've bec like « pesitiion mytpuces, and in that Your mon didn't @rive you? year, 2 had two, that one anc another ona, and that one's wo. been deleted, So t don’t know which one you're referring ' Stepmce didn't drive your to. i . E think wy dad. Oh, my dads my dad drove e Tow remember that you changed your age on ‘ your MySpace page from 18 to your tres age juat four days Yous dod dneve you? : before you went anc testified is the Grand Jury? A. Wes, ods “a So your testimeny is Getective Recerey cic | pet drive you, correct? i WR. LEOPOLD: Objection. /asked anc Ce you remember Detective Recerey? id you 1 answered. a : Ph. 561.682.0905 - Fax, 561.662.1771 | annem SS Paley Beach Laces Bive,, Sulte’S00 ~ West Palm Beachy FL-S3402—- 8 mn Pr. 161.682.0905 + Fax. 551.682.1771 — = "655-Paim Beach Lakes Bivd., Suite 500 - West-Paimr Beachy-FL-33401——— — ——— EFTA00222272

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Case 9:08-cv-80119-KAM Document 15-2 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/30/2008 Page 20 of 35 Winsor & Associates Rerwning ond tamer me, ow aa) Page 73 C or Page 74 ‘TRE WITNESS: So. I'm pretty sure ay ded .¢ ' 1 wccused Mr. Epstein of attempting to murder your father, Grove ma, Decease he was there with me. 2 didn't yoo? ‘BY Mh. TEEE: 3 A. Mo. TE sever beard @ statement saying thet 2. Did amy detective tell you te change your ‘ Mr, Epstein tried to murder ey father. age ce your MySpace page, to pat your true age? 5 o You made that staterent, didn't you? a No, air. 6 Mn. LEOPOLD: fe you have 9 statement to e How you sleo lied om your MySpace page . ° ? show ber? That's been asked and anavered, about your income, didn't you? 8 MR. TEIN: Pop soezy. T dida't hear the A tes. s witness" anawer, Me. Leopold. Q. And you lied, saying that you sade = 10 oY mm. TED quarter siliics dollars a year and higher, correct? al a. a yeu told the police, dide't you, A. Be & joke, yes. a2 thet Mr. Epstein almost Killed your feather, didn't you? e ‘That wes o lie, wasn _~ YQ a3 a. Be a Tes. u“ o ‘Three years ago, before Mr. Epstein even a And you also Lied on your MySpace page, ‘ 15 knew sbout this iavestigation, you told the police that saying that you were married, didn't you? ' “ Bpatein hed “siready come to my dad's house and dic A. = Possibly. And that might Save been ae 0 something to ay dad’s tires esd my Gc almost died. erroz on ay part 18 didn't want my dad te get hurt, because etl slresdy Q. Bow you alse Lie to the police, ' is almost killed his.” A Bo. 20 Didn't you say that? a Well, you lied to the police in your ' 21 A. Mot to my knowledge or sacoliection. I tape-recorded statement that you gave te Getective i - 2 deve never saic anything like that. Michelle Pagan three years ago, didn't you? 23 Q. thet would have been » complete lie, j A. To my knowledge, no, 1 aid not, i 2 wosldn't Lt have been? r J Well, you lied to the police shen you j U - r, A. Yeah. Ph. 561.682.0905 « Fax. 561.662.1771 : bd oo A) Beach 500 - West Prim, L331 Ph. 561.682.0905 - Fax. 561.682.1771 Palen Lakes ive, Sutte poet Ft _ . 1655 Pairs Beach Lakes Bivd,, Suite 500 - West Palm Beacn. S380) 0 Page 75 Page 76 Q. Because Hr. Epstein never cane to your A. Coreect. I do not know her name. dad's house, correct? a. You said, *% don't know her name, Dut she A. Correct. wee dark ike # Spanish girl." Those were your words, @. And Be one who worked for Mr. Epstein ever rignt? | did something to your ded's tires, did they? Vea. WR. LEOPOLD: Objection. Lack of WR. LEOPOLD: Objection. Asked and foundation, predicate. anowered.. Don't guess. Who was in the cer that day with you end Q. -Th's not true that Mc, Epstein almost killed your father, is it? Again, t de cot knew. wasn't it? i | 10 os You Lied to the police about who was in the | WR. LEOPOLD: Objection. Asked and answered, lack of foundation, predicate, BY wR. TRIM: ©. You oan answer. a Bo. 2. ow you told the pelice that you didn’ know who was in the car with you - a- the day you went to Rpateia's house, didn’t you? Let me ask you some questions about who you | may have spokes to about this case. ALL right? Go ahead. Did you spenk to your twin sister Bot Sn detail, but of courses she knows, | aA. Yes. Q. And that was a lie, wasn't it? A. It's che truth. ©. You told the police that there was someone and yes. | in the car next to yoo and you specifically seid you wmat's her e-wail? Tt don't think she has C dids’t know ber seme, right? w j | — .—Ph-561.682,0905-» Fax 563.682.1771! ee TRS Vabr Weuch (Shes ea ans STs ae Poa —_ j 1655 Paim Beach Lakes 3ivc., Suite 500 ~ West Palm Beach, FL 33401 ‘Bind; Suite SOO - West Palm Beach, FL 33401-"~ EFTA00222273

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Case 9:08-cv-80119-KAM Document 15-2 "1655 Pain Seach Cakes Bivd:; Suite S00 + West Palm Boach; F-33401--—= & Associates ihqungarhameea be Page ?7 ° What is her phone camber? don't know off the top of my And what is ber hone address? She tives with sy ace In Georgia? Yeu, sir Woat about RB rt | oom speak to him sbost Epsteis's case? My sis! That's my son's boyfriend. doenn’t have # boyfriend. My mom's husband's maze is a 40 maybe you get thes confused. De you know his phene number? Ho. Where does he live? With my Rom. In the same house with her? Yes. They're married. $e sot boyfriend; husband? Yooh, husband. Mr. Epstein’s house? Mot in detetl, but he knows the basics, What is bis e-mail? Ph. 561.682.0905 - Fax. 561.582.1771 & Associates OS Reparwng ane Tramaertpeee, Page 19 wnat aparteent pusber is it? ° a 2 couldn*t tell you. 0. When Waa the Last time yoo went there? A. Just visited this past weekend. That's the first and last tine 1 went there. @. How about 7 fave you spoken to hin about your case? A. Mo. Meno longer speak. a ‘what's Bis phone number? Actually, we @leeady have his phone number and e-mail. vos atest EP tare pos over spoken to her about your case? one es ore oe A. Mo, But just te let you know, I don"t resily know names. If you have pictures of there faces I could tell you. Q. All right. tet =e see if I can refresh your sencry. A. Okay. o- fees it refresh your memory that [| 4s the other girl who sade allegations about Epstein, but retuned to show to the Grand Jury whec she had to testity about them under cath? A. io, wiz, IT have po knowledge of any other Ph. 561.682.0905 - Fax. 561.682.1771 65S'Paim Beach Lakes Bivd:, Suite S00 - West Palm Seach, Fir33401~ ~~ i r& Associates AS Reparing dd Tranenpee. 8 What 1s bis phone number? A. How is that relevant? What is his phone number? . $62. 719.2652. What is his howe address? 1 don't know. Where does he live? In Palm Beach Lakes somevhere. Ever been to his house? Yes. dom't know what his address $s? + BEDPOLD: Asked and Objection. She just ssid she doesn't know. . TEIN: Don't coach. + LEOPOLD: Asked and Objection. answered. BY MR. TEIW: You can enewer the question address I don't know the exact What street is it on? strert. What's the name of the apartment complex? Something Cove. Ph. 561.682.0905 - Fax. $61.682.1771 1655 Palm Beach Lakes Blvd; Suite SO0-~ West Palm Beachy FL:33401—-——- win Page 60 gitls in this whole situation. We're nct @llowed te know each other a. I eid@e't get the last four words A We're not allowed to know each other. Q fed what abow a Ro, air. 0. Let's see df 2 can refresh your mexsry on her. She's the other person represented by your lewyer Mr, Berman, “ho as suing Epstein for fifty million A. £ have no knowledge of her. Qe. Never met her? a. Never met ber. : 7 a. I don't know whe that is either. Q- A person naned| ho non PP aA t don't know, sir. 5 in the police seports? AL Woy #88. ©. Have you reed the police reports in this case? AL Tes, Ph, 561.882.0905 - Fax. 551.682.1771 ~ "68S Pali’ Bezel Lakes Blvd. Suite S00 - West Palm Beach; PL 33401——— EFTA00222274 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/30/2008 Page 21 of 35 ' i i } }

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Case 9:08-cv-80119-KAM Document 15-2 ” s r & Associates AS Raping oe Tasmaaripton, tec @. were released that you had x: a Page 81 They're on the Internet, right? Yes, 1 think Were you surprised when the police xeporte © statements on the Internet containing y: wade to the police? SY Mh. TEIN, ° somebody who had gone to jail for drogs and car th Recarey? Yes. You didn't want to see that happen, sight? Ko. So you're saying you don't know 7 CJ MA. LEOPOLD: Cbjection. Asieed and Does it refresh your senory that he was we You don't know if he met with Detective fo, atx oo Yes, I cenamber. I know who thet is Did you ever apeak +o GD =: . Epatein's house? Ph. 561.662.0905 - Fax, 561.682.2771 “D655 Palm Beacty Lakes Bivd.; Sute 500~West Peim Beachy FL 33401~ sor & Associates PI esorung me Thanet, loc. Entered on FLSD Docket 06/30/2008 Page 22 of 35 ~ uw w case? is Page 82 Did you speak iy. t sir Hare you spo’ —, Bo, 1 don't know who , . Did your parents speak to iy Ask ny parents let's see if I can refresh your memory as Okay? vh-huh. He's the Vanity Fair reporter who made a financial arrangement with your father a au And I don't im what you know made with your a ° your father? cy ° Ph, 561.682.0905 - Fax. 561.662.1771 ==" 1685 Pair Beach Lakes Bivd., Suite 500 - West Palm Beachy FL 33401-—~— like that my dad did it until after it war d I am aware of that. And again, I was not ow the details about that. I just know about that, Like thet they talked. Tell me what you know about the financial _ Sc the Vanity Pair zoporter, tathex I don't know about the details at all y to my dad I don't even know be gave i'm sorry? & Associates Aemerina ant Thsnsntence, te. ~ —~~—~-1655 Pam Beach Lakes Btvd.; "Suite 500 -West Palm Beachy FL-33401—~—~ Page 62 A. ie _knows what happened four years ago. He doean"t know this is still going on today ©. «What's his address? I'm sorzy. I have his | address a 1 don't know, + oo —_ a — See A T know who that is, yes. night one night last aissing? A Q. Reneaber the baseball game you were supposed to go to? A Mo, six cane? A. = Mo, Shee 0. Bow about az A. ‘That's ny oister's ex-boyfriend. Q. Me's the ane with the sawed-off shotgun ted serial cusber? h the obliter a Ask &) T would not know Snforsation Ph, $61,682.0905 - Fax. 561.682.1775 sor & Associates SO hapaing nnd THeneesgas, He's the ove yor stayed out drinking all year ween your ded reported y; A 1 didn't even know he gave money to ay dad O. at do you know about the deat that Page 64 A. Tonly know they spoke om the telephone once. I gon't know anything else, Q. When was that? A. ‘This was @ while ago, & year or two a year ogo. 1 honestly don't know. | o. © id | Vanity Fair reporter, offer any somey to your father? | a 1 don oe ' Qo. le iz Vanity Yade reposter, give you eny money? A. Mo, sige \ 0. Did he offer you any money? a sir, Sever spoke to bis. 0. bat reporters have you spoken to? AL taro. ©. Mest about your family seabers? what reporters have they spoken to? A. "The whole Pals Beach County, as you can see in that newspaper t's ge through eo o. you renember. Other than the Vanity Fi Ph, 361.682.0905 - Fax. 561.682.1771 cc, what other reporters have any member of your one thet —~1855 Palm Bench Lakes Biv¢., Suite SOO - West Paim Beachy FL 33401-—~—— -—— EFTA00222275

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Case 9:08-cv-80119-KAM Document 15-2 & Associates ‘Rapareng eon Tratacn een, tre Page 85 tamily spoken to? A. tf don't know. And I know my mom has spoken te sero. My sister spoke to tero. My father and stepmother, T wouldn't know, You'd have to aek them, T don’t contact thes. Q. Well, I jest want to know -- T don't want you to =~ f want to know what's in your mind. All £ight? MR. LEOPOLD: She just told you. She just answered ~~ MR, TEIN; Be quiet. BY &. TEIN: Q. What 1 want to know is what you know fron your personal knowledge. My questicn to you ia: What Anowleage do you have about family senbers of yours a? speaking to repor MR, LEOPOGD: Objection. Asked and anawered, And af you can't talk professionally, we'ze going to leave. MR, TEIN: Do what you want to do. MA. LEOPOLD: Are you going to continea to © O & Associates Rapering set Tramariguer. ee Page 86 MR, TETM: But you are misrepresenting the record and you are grendstancing for your client end it's wrong. Se be quiet. And you Emow how to make an objection. Make it, Otherwise stop tf you wast to leave the Bat you"], be back here. If I cosid just make the record, instead of interrupting me, please, phat's what we do professionally. There's a recorder here. f'm certainly not being obatractionist. I'm going to make the record. Bur we'ze going to act with some semblance of hopefully, by all parties in the room. ‘That goes to ea, that goes to yosr co-counse} sitting behind you and sext to you, the Court reporter and everyone else in the room. Rveryane is entitled to that. Entered on FLSD Docket 06/30/2008 Page 23 of 35 talk this way? i You've asked a question. She enawered the | MR, TRIN: I'm not going to answer any question fully and she's act going to be harassed i question that you sak ne, Mr. Leopold. | because you don't like the answer. If you want te follow up ~~ om. LEOPOLO: Okay. | VY 7 O . —— Ph. 561.682.0905 - Fax, 561.682.1771 Ph, 561.682.0905 - Fax, 561.682.1771 “7655 Palm Beach Lakes Bie, Suite S0O~ Wost Peim Beachy FIeIH40b———— -— | + sea /655 Palm Beach Lakes Bive., Suite 500» West Paln Beach, FL 33401... Page 87 Fay WR. TEIN: Stop engaging se. Make your speech and then we’ MR, LEOPOLD: Well, you won't let me finish ik the question: making the objection, so it's difficult to do mas your mom's husband GR =pokee te thet, But if you want to follow with an te. me your noa's maunent Ureceived any noney fro reporters? appropriate question, feel free to do that. Wut we're not going to harass the witness. MA, TRIN: f disagree with everything A to. @. Are you sure you don't sow mR. LECEOLD: Objection, Asked and you've said. Let's ask the questicns. Okay? MH. LEOPOLD: Ask an appropriste questica. MR, TEIN: Are you going to stop talking? MR. LEOPOLD: f'n going to make -- protect mmewwed. THE WITWESS; I'm positiv oO ny client and make appropriate objections, Set ‘there's not « question pending sight new. By wa. Tete: | I'L) try agein to refresh your memory. o. . to any reporters? Mo. MA. LEOPOLD: Objection, Asked and Okay. Dos it refresh your memory that ahe hed Deen arrested for drugs and was cooperating with i Detective Recarey against Epstein to get hereelt mas a given money by any doa? A. Bo, -T don"t know who she is. Q. Have you spoken te anyone else who's Deen at Epstein's house? Mas your mem spoken to any reporters? | AL Ro. © - Ph. 561.682.0905 - Fux, 561.682.1771 a+ =~ 655 Palm Beach Lakes Bivd., Sute-S00 ~ West Pain Beach, FL IS4DI————- =. ameme + WR. LEOPOLD: Objection. Asked and Without telling se what was said ~~ I don't Ph, 561.682.0905 - Fax. 561.682.1771 | ~--————1655-Paim Beach Lakes Bivé,; Sue 500—West Palm-Beacn-A-33401—— ——_——_' EFTA00222276

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Case 9:08-cv-80119-KAM Document 15-2 e Page 89 ~ want to know about any conversations with any lewyers, okay ~~ A. Uhehah. 0. == did you oF your parents mpeak to eny ether law firms besides Mr. Hiersan and Mr. Leopold's law tims? AL Mo, ©. Mow without telling me about anything that was said, what ~~ did one just come to mind? A. Wo, I was thinking abowt something else, What were you thinking about? pees fanily court matter? Okay. Without telling me what was said, i@) who prepared you for today's deposition? A. what do you mean prepared? Q- Bd you talk about this deposition, about what would happen, with anybody? Yes. Don't tell me what was said. Okay. I'm not asking thet. T don't want to know Okay. We prepared you for today's deposition? i . Mr, Lecpold. Ph, $61.682.0905 - Fax. 563.682.1772 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/30/2008 Page 24 of 35 We. e hen ¢i4 you meet with Mr. Leopold to prepare for today's deposition? Lo This sorning. Q. And bow Long did that meeting lest? LS Ontil it started. 0. Mow you teld me that you previously had read the police reports in this case? A Yes. Q. Have you read your statement that you gave to the police? Yes, sir. And in whet form was that statement? What do you meant Was it in the form of = police repert or a Mhot's the difference? A transcript has questions and answers on report ia just typed out narrative, On, it's « police ceport. And when did you zead the police report? A fw days ago. I overread it « few days Had you read it before that? Ph. 561.682.0905 ~ Fax, 962.682.1771 ——--—— 1655 Palm Seach Lakes Blvd; Suite SO0--West Palm Beach,-Fi-33401———— ——| € Page 91 @. Now you told me == again, 7 don't want to ienow what was said, A. Uh-huh. 0. You told me that you met with Mr. Leopold this morning to prepare for your deposition, right? A, Tes. ©. Whee did you aet up that meeting with Wr, Lnopald te take place this morning? A. Gow, Like, dike five days ago, four days Q. 80 you're aware that Mr. Leopold told us oO that he could not start the deposities this morning because he hed « court appearance, correct? MR. LEOPOLD: Don't answer that question. Calla for attorney/client commenications. BY MR, TEIN: 0. ave you seon the letter that itr. Leopold wrote to us stating that he — an e-mail that Mr. Leopold wrote to Mr. Goldberger stating that he could not be here this morning because he had a court appearance? Did you see that e-mail? ; 1G. LEOPOLD: You cam answer that question. Page 92 2. Bave you listened to your tape-recorded statement to the police? Yes. Where did you listen te thet? In, f think, this building. I don*t know. Ween did you Listen to that statement? Thin morning. And who was present when you Listened to that stetemeat? Me. Leopold == and I forget your name. WR. GOLDEERCER: Ms, Belohlavek. TRE METWESS: Ms. Belohlavek. Azd you hadh't listened to your statenent before that, correct? A. OMe, ade. Have you set with lawyers representing suing Epstein? Mo, sir. 0. How many times have you spoken te officers with the Pele Beach Police Department? aA. More than I like can count. It's been engoleg for four years, so quite « few tines. Ph. 561.682.0905 - Fax, 561.682.1771 1655 Pelm Beach Lakes Bivd., Suite S00 - WestPaim Beach, FL3HO1——- -~ EFTA00222277

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Case 9:08-cv-80119-KAM Document 15-2 V (+ omg 655 Palm Beach Lakes Bivets"Suke 500 West Paim Beach-FrS340r—— ~ Page 93 1 ©, then was the last time you spoke with 2 officers of the Palm Beach Police Departaent? 3 A. Awhile ago. I'd say # year ago. ‘4 QO. A yrar ago? $s A. Yeah, Maybe a year snc a half. 6 O. bo you remember Detective Recarey? ? A Ho. & e. Do you remember Michelle Pagan, Detective 9 Pagan? 10 AL Tes. How many times have you spoken to Detective Pagan? nu a. until for some reasen she wasn't on the case anyacre. She was the only one I spoke to about this . them was that? ‘The first meeting = aver had was with her 16 Lo and then I think Like I met with her like 10 times or 12 times or something like that, and then I didn't get -- another investigator questioned me after that. 2. And who was that? A a 1 dosn't remenber. And wnat type of questions did they ask ‘The sane. ‘The same questions all over again? Ph, 563.682.0905 - Pax. 561.682.1771 Wersor a Associates tguig as tenia Page 95 A. I'6 have to say Like « year and = half ago, 2 year ogo. Tt was = Long time ago. (Discussion held off the record.) MR. TEIN: Tell me the lest answer, please. (Thereupon, @ portion of the record war read by the reporter.) WY MR. THEM: G. And who was present wher the ort anv ew new you at your father's house? AL My atepmothne She made herself like do other things. @. And how many TOE agents were there? t think four. And you don't remunber any of their names? Me, iz. Ana were there any lawyers there? Mot that I know of. Ind none of thar gave you their cell phece And the last time you spoke to the FRI was a year and @ half 0907 A. ft was @ while ago. WR, LEOPOLD: Objection. Asked and Ph. 561.682.0905 - Fax. 561.662.1771 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/30/2008 Page 25 of 35 © G OTB ES Paul Belich Lakes Bit, “Sulte’ S00 ~ West’Palnr Beach; FL-33401-—— Page 94 | Basically. How many taped statements have you given to | Ome that I know of, Just the one with Detective Pagan? Yos, siz. Q. tow about to the PRI? Bic you give any atements to then? A. Wo. Well, actually, 7 don"t really remémber if that uaz taped or not, to be honest with you. I hed ene meeting with them st my howse and don't know if ou were interviewed ot QS i No. That waa by the lowyer. at was taped. Oh, by the Lawyer? i Oh-bub. ‘here did the conversation that you had with the FBI take place? aA. At ay father's residence. ©. Which fs where? A oa | Loxahatchee. H 2. On where? A , =F Loxahatenee. | e. And when did that take place? | Ph. 561.682.0905 - Fax. 563.682.1772 “1655 Pant BEBO Lakes’ Biv, Sulte’S00* West Painy Beach, FES3401 1 & Associates Rope ine Taseyon, oe Page 96 SY wR. TE e And the last time you spoke to the federal prosecutor's office was when? A. of doen't know. 0. Did any of the FBI agents tell you that Marie Vitlafone had spoken with Kr. Leopold? a m. ©. did any of the FBI agents tell you thet Marie Villafons had spoken with Me. Herman? H A. Mo. o. Pid any PSI agents tell you that Jeff Slosah spoke with Mr. Kerman, A. Mo. ©. Did any Bz agents tell you that Jeff Slonan spoke with Me. Leopold? a Lo ©. De you know whether any of the federal prosecutors allowed Me. Herman to review a craft indictment? A. E woulda"t know, ©. De you know if any of the federal prosecutors discussed a draft indictwent with Mz. Herman? a T wouldn't know. \ Q. Have you ever e-maiied with any P82 agent of any federal prosecutor? Ph. 561.682.0905 - Fax. 561.682.1771 EFTA00222278

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Case 9:08-cv-80119-KAM Document 15-2 Meroe 4 Associates @Q@ : Page 97 ; 1 AL Bo. ' 2 @. ‘Have you ever text messaged with any FBI 3 agent or any federal prosecutor? ‘ AL We, ' 5 @. Mas the PRI toid you about ether testimony? 6 A Mo. 7 o. gas the FBI told you sbout what other girls s bave saic? 9 A Wo. 10 Qo Have federel prosecutors told you what 1 il other girls have said? 22 A. Ho. ! © 1 oe. pe you Rave any way of getting in touch © 1 with the BI if you wanted to get in touch with then? j jas AL wo 16 Q. tow about your parents? Do they know how ! 17 to get in touch with the FAI? 18 A. T don't know. 19 ©. And by your parents, I'm referring to both 20 seta, okay? i 2 A, Gh. Well, I'm referring to only my dad, 22 because my mor really doesn't care te know any of this 23 stuff. 1 24 @, fo the answer would be the same for your O 2s ot and | © Ph, 561.682.0905 - Fax. 562.682.1771 ~ "TESS PRN Béach Lakes Bivd-- Sube"S00™ West’ Pale Beach? FEI3402———— . | Yes, I would knows and no, she did not. ©. Lats put up =~ let me ask you sone questions about the photo thet you hed posted en your MySpace page before you erased it Last week. Okay? A Okay. WH. TEIN: De you mind if we close the door 2 second, please. um. LEOOLD: Exhibit number, please. MR, TEIN: Put up 25-005. \ Bold on a second. © MR, UnoroLe: en't say anything. She was © talking to her counsel. =. TEM: Put up 25-006. wm, LeOPOLD: te that 005 right there? MA. EINE ©. Who took this photo of you in a warehouse, simolating being gang-zaped by @ bunch of ~~ MR, LEOPOLD: Objection. Mmischaracterizes the photograph, and lack of foundation and predicate, Pully explain if you need to, KE wirMess: I will. | © Ph. 561.682.0905 - Fax. 561.662.1771 eam Pain Bech Lakes Blvd Sute 500—West PelmBaschyFIeI9ADI——= name 655 Pair Beach Lakes Bic, Suite S00 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/30/2008 Page 26 of 35 Page 98 a Q. Have you spoken to # lawyer named Burt Ocaris about this case? aA. Mo. Do you know who Bort Ocariz is? Let's see if T cam cefresh your memory. Coes it refresh your memory that he's # good friend of Mozie Villafona's boyfriend? A. —-E don't know who Marie villafona is. Marie Villafona is the lead federal eo prosecutor that's on the federal part of this case, Okay? A. My @. So does it refresh your semory that Ocaria is the good friend ef Marie ¥illafona's boyfriend? a Bot at all. 0. Dees it refresh your memory that Villafona tried to get Epstein te pay for Ocariz to represent you im the federal case? A. Re. 0. Do you know if Detective Recarey has spoken with your father? A. Bo. 0. De you know if Detective Kecarey has spoken to your atepeothert Ph. 561.682.0905 ~ Fax, $61-682.1771 | —1655 Pai Beach Lakes vd, Suite 500 West Pain Beach; Re-334D In = Page 100 ™mis First off, this is not a warehouse. in i QE & =. Second of sl, 2's not Being gang-raped Everyone has thetr clothing om, thirdly, af you'd look at all the other ween you're sick you drink it? BY MR, TEED: Q. You can't ask questions of your counsel, a ALL right, 2% drinking Like Sprite. I's 2 3 4 5 6 pictures ia that albos, I'm drinking ~~ what's 7 s 9 ] not drinking any kind of alcohol, if you would look at ay other pictures in that albus. You guys picked the possibly worst pictures And 1t was just a goofy cut of there to present. And that's picture, All of these kids like to be goofy. what we were Going. ‘no's the man on the left of the picture o. Dolding hit -- holding a beer bottl) if it were a penis towards your south? no's the san behind you, right =p towards A. o your backside, with you bent over? A. That coe? o A. The right side, kissing with his mouth. Ph. 561.682.0905 - Fax, $61.682.1771 EFTA00222279

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Case 9:08-cv-80119-KAM Document 15-2 sor & Associates Nereis sa Trwnanegmian, ts Page 101 ° He's the one grabbing towards the groin ay Mn Counsel can ask you w! a Yes ee other men in the photo Q And there's ¢ sames? The one on the Jett with the hat? Ling? A Yos @ Who's the one kissing -- mR, UBO Don't interrupt. Let her finish the record. She's testifying. WR. TEIN: ft know you don't Like this picture, ay friend. MR. LEOPOLD: The pt resn ° coe with the hat? MR. LEOPOLD: Wo. Hold on. Stop || have to let the witness finish her answer. She was in the process of explaining and her off Please finish what you were saying and the: o etter thi wer he w THE wrrwess: Okay. This guy -- the record is MR, LEOPOLD: Just make it so clear who you ferzing to Ph. 563.682.0905 - Fax, 561.662.1771 —.1655.Paim Beach Lakes Bivd., Sute S00.- West Palm Beach, FL 33401 Page 103 to his at oll case? BY ed , . ° And have you spoken + a MO. NELOHLAVEK: Are we referring to Yor. wR. Term: Yes. MS. BEL Tery. Okay 0. Have you spoken el r) bo you have a friend named | A. 1 Go not have » friend saned [i] Q. Prom fewshman year? A. a Wo 0. Have you spoken to a is case? Pr. 561.662.0905 « Fax. 561.682.1771 am =1655.Palm Beach Lakes Bivd.,, Sue 500 - West Palm Beoch, FL 33401 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/30/2008 Page 27 of 35 r & Associates heparin oes Tnenntieam, te 1 + 3 BY mt ‘ Q. Me's the one whose head ts near the groin 6 A, Yes 7 ° And in the middle there's a man smiling 8 Woo's that? C ° And who's the one in the ced hat, kissing? il a netic) 12 Are you 13 done? 4 a * done 15 Q. = whe Sl 6 A My sister's friend Well, she's « mutual 16 21 A. I don't know how to == 22 Q. Mave you spoken to her about 23 A. Mo 24a ° athe a 5 a My winter's friend I don"t re Ph. 561.682.0905 - Fax. 561.662.1771 sor & Associates Meperty oe Vowancryion, 155.241 Beach. Lakes Bive., Suite 500 - West Palm Beach, FL 33401 0 day party 11 @. Were you drinking at that A Mm. There was no sloohol 13 4 Qo. | mh laze” mean to 5 a Te*s dike -- it But we wer for some girl's 16th birthday r just means Like mass 1 a wo 2 q What's her last name? 3 a ay i don"t Rmow how to spel) it 5 C) fa ake the parton whose house you want to ‘ on Sew ‘s this year? 6 a Mo. I wasn't at her her Mew ¥ ? @ here were you whes you took the 8 A you say Blazed,* that’s on your website 9 A z or -- weit, Me ware at a party? anything Qo. Mease 18 A Sure | Q. Who's |g , | A. -AGitl I know, like from like two years 23 staying with 2 yeu weat di ay 24 A vo Ph. 561.682.0905 » Fax. 561.682.1771 1655. Prim Beach Lakes Bivd., Sue S00 = Wiket Palm Beach, FL33401 ~ EFTA00222280

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Case 9:08-cv- 19-KAM Document 15-2 or & Associates S aperang aed Trewin, tos Entered on FLSD Docket 06/30/2008 Page 28o0f35 | & Associates tapering ond [raesee poh Page 106 Page 10: Cc 1 A ay . 2 THE WITSESS: Gosh, that's s¢ long ago. 2 @ Where does she Live? 1 2 ay Ma. 72I8 3 A. I don’t know. In Royal Palm. 3 ©. Who took the photo of you Licking the 5 A. Uh-huh. I'm guessing 5 A. ity stepmother 6 Q. Do you knew her phone number? 6 Q. Whose idea -- that was your stepmother 7 A. Bo, T don ? idea? : ° Let's look at ° a A. TE was An Buce di Deppo, where she works ° A. See, i'm drinking = Fy currently, and that was before she vorked there. And we 10 ° I'm not asking you about what 10 just thooght it would be funny al drinking u MR. TETH: 13-007. Cam you enlarge thet? 12 Miho are the men in this photo who are 32 sym. g: 13 pretending ¢ up on you and stab you with knives? ee) 13 Who took this phote of you simulating you 14 who are they? } ae hawing sex with o man? 15 A. —- - is aA. We're not simulating having sex, and 16 Q- Are these irene } 16 it's <+oh, and the person whe took it wes, I'm pratty a] A. Are those? a! - be said the oe tT know him “a I don't know his a two stabbing with knives. That's why f said that. | ae dest name. 19 don't know. That's a: — hs Q Go to 19006, please 20 @. Are these firemen? | 20 Who took this phote of you simelating sex Prt A. Wo. ‘They'ze alt on -~ except QD } 2a with 9 man? thy all on tual rights for football. | 22 A. The same person. And we're not simulating @. Go to 028-015. | 23 heving ex, ME. => ; MR. LEOPOLD: 025 danh? | 26 Q. ‘Tein. / MR. TRIN: 035 Did you post that on the Internet? Ph, 561.682.0905 - Fax, 561.682.1771 Ph, 561.682.0905 - Fax. 561.662.1771 65S. Palm Beach. Laces Bivd,, Sue 500 - West Palm Beach, FL 3340.0 ow a a 1655. Pim Beach Lakes. Bivd., Sue S00. West Pakn. Beach, FL I3402 sor & Associates sor & Associates FFT Reig an Tranacrpee, be Repeats an nave, Oe co Cc Page 107 , } a A. etwally, this i an old MySpace I never . 2 a Yes 2 finisbed and i never like did anything, 7 just kind of 2 @. Are you clothed in this picture? ° ! 3 A. Yoah. I have @ Salter dress 4 Q. $0 the answer is yes, you posted this on ‘ Q. hese is that picture taten? ‘ MySpace | 5 a In aa: é A pe | 6 ©. Did you past that om the Internat? 7 ©. Ge te 25-016. who took this photo of you | AL Yes © stunting oun with o vena? ls Q. Alle 9 wh. LEOPOLD: Object to the } 9 MB. TEIN; You can take that down 10 question, Argusantative 10 BY mm, TRIM: 11 THE WITWESS: Firat off, she's piercing ay 11 Q. Now your beyfrlend i 12 bealy betton or replercing it, and I'm pretty sure 12 G 13 it was jast 1 put up # camera somewhere and 13 A. Yeah. 1é put @ timer cn it. We didn't have anybody taxe | a6 ©. Tou lie about your age in order to conc 1s ie. is something about your relationship oh 16 BY MR, TRIM fan't that correct? 17 ©. You posted that cn your MySpace page? 17 A. Bo. 18 a. Yeek. ‘ - OMB? vores ote, tsare ner 19 @. Go to 25-013. Te that « phote of you? 19 a. 2 20 a Yep. 20 2. And | = firefighter with the Pain 21 Q. —Who’s in the phote with you? : 21 Beach Fire Department, right? A 22 A. Yup. ° 23 ° Does the palm Beach Fire Departaent know 24 your boyfriend is dating sn underage girl? p 25 A. Actually, mister, it's legal Ph, 361.682.0905 - Fax, 561.682.1773 nave aw 555. Puke Beach Lakes Biv. Suite S00.> Wiest Palm Beach, PL 33401, Ph. 561.682.0005 - Fax, 561.662.1771 « noone 6S5.Paim Beach Lakes Bivd., Suite 500 - West Pain Beach, FL 33401 EFTA00222281

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Case 9:08-cv-80119-KAM Document 15-2 & Associates aprriny ant Trasecngtion, Ie las Page 109 — @ = well =~ Wh. LEOPOLD: Just omewer the questien, O. Did they know two weeks ago thet you wore dating an enderage girl (atc)? A Yes. = met everybody in there. ©. Did they know your age? AL Yes. a. Did you lie about your age so that the fire Geparteent wouldn’t think ono committing a © crime by having @ sexual relationship with an underage girl? WS. BELONIAVEX: Objection. Assunes facts net in evidence. BY MR. TEIW: You cam snawer the question. wo. Does the Palm Beach Police Department know having @ sexual relationship with an underege girlt WR. LEOPOLD: fon't guess. Answer if you ‘THE WETHESS) Can you repeat the question? Ph. 561.682.0905 - Fax, 561.682.1771 —_————1655-Paim Beach Lakes Bivd; Suite 500 - Wiest Palm Beach, FL 33401 __ cy Page 213 x ‘THE WITNESS: Sever -~ whet did you say? BY AR, THIN: @. You Ased when you went to the creck house in Georgia, didn't you? WR. LEOPOLD: Objection. Axgumentative. Lack of foundation, lack of predicate. ey MR. TETW: “a You can enswer the question. A.D have never bean to s crack house, “a Whe doen't you lie to? MB. LEOPOLD: Objection, Argumentative. Den't answer the question. © bn. TEIN: Certify it. es nee eeseeeesee ee CERTIPISD QUESTION, You don't ile to | you? MR. LEOPOLD: Gbjection, Asked end anewered. Don't anawer the question. anawer that qeestion. Wo. 1 just told her mot to. You'we asked that question abeut five = WR. TRIN: So, T haven't. MR, LEOPOLD: Don't answer the queation. O Ph, 561,682.0905 - Fax. 561.682.1771 1055 Palm Beach Lakes Bivd., Suite 500 - West Palm Beach, FL 33403 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/30/2008 Page 29 of 35 & Associates oy Page 110 ©. Doss the alm Beach Police Department know coat sember of the Palm Beach Fire Departeent, is having # sexuel relationship with sn axderage girl? A. ‘I'm qoessing ns. You lie about your twin sist: a: tm. LEOPOLD: Objection. Argumentative. Don't you? Wo. have never lied for or to QD You Lie about the fact that she hes a drug abit, sight? © A. fo, would never accuse my sister of having @ drug habit, Q- De you try te conceal the fact that she has = dewg habit? WR, LEOPOLD: Objection. Argusentative, You can enawer the question, Wo. My Sister does not have « drug habit. You lied when you went to the crack house in Georgia, didn't you? wa, LEOPOLD: Lack of foundation, lack of predicate. Objection. Argunantative. Ph. 561.682.0905 ~ Fax. 561.662.1771 1655 Paim Beach Lakes Siv¢., Suite 500 - West Palm Beach, FL 33402 oy Page 112 wy 1 MA, TRIN: "11 certify it. 2 eer eeeeeeeeenssees CERTIFIED QUESTION. ...... 6.005 3 MR. LEOPOLD: Por the record, you have to a stop interrupting se because she can't take down 5 both of us talking at the sane tine. 6 BY mm. TEIM: 7 Q. — Yow tell Qiene exutn, con't your J] AR Excuse me? cy Qo. You t eT truth, don't you? 10 aA. Mhen it's ~~ yes, 1 tel@ithe truth. 2 o. hots [ed dealer? 12 A. My aister dees aot have « drag dealer. She 13 Lives in Georgia with my acther. 14 Q. Gay. Who ts the drag dealer who cropped 15 re ont QB: ot 5:45 a.m., im 2006, after being ovt 16 all night, the twe ef you, using drugs at Palm Beach nv Country Estates where your father called the police? 18 a. az 18 Q. tata the drug dealer? 20 A. ie in a Grog dealer. 2 ° Do you remember: [| was arrested by the 22 Palm beach Police Departsent and taken to the Juvenile 23 Assessment Center that morning? 24 A. T do remember that. 25 0. How before you massaged Epstein, you ware Ph. 561.662.0905 ~ Fax. 561.682.1771 ae ummrenn =GSS Poi Beach Lakes Bd, Suite 500 ~ West Palm Beach, FL 33401 EFTA00222282

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Case 9:08-cv- @ 119-KAM Document 15-2 Page 113 involuntarily admitted into « juvenile educational facility: isn't that right? Did you say involumtarily? Yes Mo. f was willing to go. I -~ duly said ©. And you wont there because you were lying ‘se much, no one could control you: isn’t that correct? That's very incorrect. Mow you lie to your paremts all the time, Incorrect. MR. LEOPOLD: Objection, Argumentative. Sorry? Incerrect. The day you went to Epstein's house you lied to your father about where you were goings isn't that correct? A. Correct. 0. You admitted to the police that you told your father that you were going shopping, didn't you? A. Yes, 7 0. And that was @ lie, wasn't it? A. Yes. Ph. 561.682.0905 - Fax, 561.682.1771 _ —.- +1655 Pale Beach Lakes Bivd., Suite 500 - West Paim Beach, FL 33401 @ 13 _—-.- 1655 Paim Beach Page 115 e. ‘hen your counsel that it was there was lack of foundatica, you agree with your counsel, Okay. raght? ALT was Like saying, "Yeah, let's move on,* because there was no point to asking that question. @. Your father corey Fo of the house because she was lying, correct? MR. LEOPOLD: Objection. Lack of foundation. Hold a Let me just make the objection. back of foundation, predicate, calle for speculation. BY MR. TRIN: Qo. Anewer. A. I'm pot wy sister, I don't know, ©, 1 want to know what you kacw only. A. 1 doen't knew. 0. You don"t know. ‘That's your answer? a. Yes. 0. Mow your parents filed the police report regarding Mx. Epateia, right? A Yaa. Wow your parents are also lying, azen't 500.= West Paim Beach, FL 33403__ Ph, 561.682.0905 - Fax. 563.682.1771 Lakes Bhd... Site =» «1655. Paim Beach Lakes 6tvd., Sute 500 - West Palm Beach, A. 33401. poge 114 ©. And San't 1k true that your father has accused you of lying? A. AL] the tine. @, Didn't your father throw you cut of the house Thanksgiving of this past yeer because you were lying #9 such to him? a Yes, be did kick me out. Mo, that's sot the reasons why. ©. Didn't your father throw your sister ay out of the house, too? a Yea. e. And be threw her out of the house the week atter Thankegivings, right? 1 don't know the Gate, but sure. Sounds abewt right? Sure. And the ressoe be threw ber cut of the howse wus because she was lying, too? WR. LEOPOLD: Objection. Lack of foundation. Calis for speculation. BY . TEIN: o hen your counsel cosches you, you aay it's correct, right? a. I've never been coached. ‘k. LEOPOLD: Objection. Ph, 561.682.0905 - Fax, 561.682.1771 ____—1655 Palm Beach Lakes Bivd,, Suite S00. West Paim Beach, FL 33401 Page 116 Yes. MR, LEOPOLD: Just 9c the secord is clear, the father -~ becsuse the mother was up north. Wh. TEIN: Don't testify, Counsel. MR. LEOPCLO: So the record is clear, just the father. The mother was == om. TEIN: Counsel, don't comch end testify, please, That‘s absolutely improper. wR. LEOPOLD: You just saked the wrong question. wR. TEER: You can't coach her that way and you well know it. MA. LEOPOLD: Tor the record, it's the father. Se's cemarsied, I think on bis thirc marriage. om, TkIM: Yow cannot <= it's absolutely, totally against the rules and you know it. st. LEOPOLD: The natural sother Lives in Georgia. WR. TEIN: You need to behave yourself, lawyer, ‘&. LEOPOLD: The natural mother lives an Georgia. The father is hare locally. MR. TRIN: Stop coaching, Stop talking. Ph, 561.682.0905 - Fax. 561.682.1771 EFTA00222283

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© Case 9:08-cv- 119-KAM Document 15-2 & Associates dapereng ant Tce, Nee Page 117 You object. You know the rules. You junt lectured mm about the rules, Counsel. So why don"t you play by the relest Or only when they fit you? Why don't you grandstend # Little more now. Give us a five-minute speech, Mir. Leopold. MR, LEOPOLD: Are you finished, for the record? De what wR. TRIN: I'm not talking to you. you want. MR. LEOFOLD: Bon't say anything yet. fy MR. TEEN: RH your parencs — MR. LEOPOLD: Mold it. Don't sey anything yet, Let me — BY NR. TRIM: ©. Your parents, who filed the pelice report are also Lexs. we. LEOPOLD: fen't answer the question. We're not going to answer until T make the record. ft want to put on the record, sew that Counsel appears to be finished with hin comments for the record, that the previous question was inappropriate, was intentionally sialeading. Bow you can ask the question, Ph. 561.682.0905 - Fax. 563.682.1772 me nent 65S Palm Beach Lakes Bivd., Suite 500 - West. Palm Beach, FR 33401. Entered on FLSD Docket 06/30/2008 Page 31 of 35 Page 119 steal your lawsult money away {rom you? bon*t Jock to your Lewyer for the answer. wm. LEOPOLD: You can answer if yor know I have no ides. the answer to it. WE WITHESS: Yeah. BY MR. TRIM: 0. asd your father filed # lawsuit, the first lawsuit for fifty aillion dollars against Mz. Epstein without consulting you, correct? Correct. Ded your father had a lawyer file the firat aA. u e. 12 lawselt on your behalf for fifty million dollez¢ against Mr. Epstein without your knowledge, correct? Correct. And you don't trust your father, do you? Corract. vv 0. And you believe he's trying to manipulate 18 yee for hin ows gaia, don't you? 19 A. Sort ef. 20 ©. Welt, you Rmow that your mother filed « ai statenent, an affidavit, saying that you don't trust your 22 father and that you believe he's tzying te santpulate you for his own gains isn't that correct? Correct. 2 Q. You egeee with that statement, don"t yoo? Ph, 561.682.0905 « Fax. 561.682.1771 - ———-~- 4655 Palm Beach Lakes Bivd., Suite $00 - West Pain Beach, Fi 33401____ © ees nw evn wo 10 nu 12 uu “ 5 16 7 18 25 - —— 1655- Palm Beach Lakes Blvd.,-Suite.500.- West Paim Beach, FL33401.__ Page 118 e Your perents, who filed the police repert in this case, are also proven liars, aren't they? MR. LEOPOLD: Same shjection. By WR. TEIH: Q. Aren't your parents liscs? MR, LEOPOLD: Calls for speceiation. tack of predicate. MR, TEIB: You know what that ia, Leopold. WR. LEOPOLD: Stop coacking. Calis tor speculetion. Lack ef foundation. TSE WITNESS; When you say parents, my mow is not, But aure, yeah, ay dad has bean to jail for lying. BY MR. TRIN: ©. Your dad went to federat prison for two yeors for lying, right? A. Correct. @. Did he tell you it was for a financial A a institution? Yor. For stealing soney from some financial A. — Corsect. @. And do you think your father is trying to Ph, $61,682.0905 - Fax. 561.662.1771 - 4655 Palm Beach Lakes Bivd;; Suite 500-- West Page 120 Bo you trast your stepmother? My steprether, no. You think she's also trying to steal your Fpstein lowswit money away from you, don't you? A. ‘I would Like te clarify sosethiag. You keep saying my Epstein lawnuit money. I don't have any woosy, and it's just « lawsuit at the sosent. 80 2 just don’t trust Ber. @. Okay. You think that your stepmother is trying te take advantage of this lewesit to try to get weeey from Mr. Epstein that belongs to you, right? AL Yaa. ©. Did your stepmother tell you why she was arrested? i A. Bo. ©. Bid your stepmother tell you that abe's ever beon arreated? A. Mo. ; Q. Did she tell you she was arrested foz a. Mover, Q. Sid she tell you that she was tired from a Howthorme Aviation? | i Ph. 561.682.0005 - Fax. 561.682.1771 Palm Beach, EFTA00222284

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O Page 122 ©. Did she tell you that she was fired fram Hawthorne Aviation for stealing? a Be. MR, TRIM: Let's take @ break. (Thereupon, a recess was taken.) BY mR. TEIN: a. nm: you met Jeffrey Epstein, had yoo ever had sexual intercourse? yeah. How many times? cern ne ewe bf Jast a few. Twice. With how many different nen? Two. tow old were they? (QI = one ens onder than oe, and then the other person was two years older than me, a @. «What was his sane? —— 2. Bow old were you when you faret had sexvel intercourse? a. 4. ° Bow many ~~ before you met Epstein, how many different men bad yoo had any type of sexual activity with? A. Zumt those two. Ph, 961.682.0905 - Fax. 561.682.1773 — —~—1655 Paim Beach Lakes Blvd., Suite 500 ~ West Paim. Beech, FL 33402__ Page 123 laser coler copied so that we have a copy, and i'n eseczing he'll get # copy te the court report: too, to attach, actesily a certified copy to the deposition. WR. GOLDBERGER: Dene. wa. LEopond: ‘That's if you agree to that. 42 not, then I want to pall each ore ost and put exhibit labels on them, which we should do before we leare. MR. GOLOMEAGER: Se're not going to ao either. I'l] eve copies sent to the court reporter and she can attech them te the deposit MR, LEOPOLD: So you're not going te agree to what we talked about during the be WR, GOLDHERGER: i'm cet quite sur your asking me to do. Tet me finish. WR. LEOPOLD: Chay. Sure, That's fine, Wh. GOLTOERGER: Okay. If you want se to 90 over te Ms. Relchiavek's office and make copies and then Thi give those to the court reporter, fine. All I'm saying is thet J would avoid that process, 7 would send copes to the court reporter. Dut if it will make you bappa Ma. LACROLO: I'm sot? Ph. 561.682.0905 - Fax, 563.682.1771 Case 9:08-cv-80119-KAM Document 15-2 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/30/2008 Page 32 of 35 I __--—--1655.Palm Beach Lakes Bivd.,, Site 500 - West Page 122 Ate you saying you never kissed « man other t e than these two? MR. LROPOLD! Objection to the fox of the question. ‘Tue wrruess; Yes, I had kissed people before. ‘BY HR. TRIN: ©. Before you met Zpstein, hac you ever had oval sex? a Mo. - a Ever in your life, have you exchanged sex for something of valve? a we. wR. TEI: We're dene. THE WITHESE: Ch, oRny. wh. LEOPOLD: We'll read. WS, DELOHLAVER: = deat have aay questions, Thank you. MA. LEOPOLD: Before ve go off the record, it's my understanding == Mz. Goldberges can correct the record ~~ but we have stipulated that color copies of the documents thet were identified for identificetion certainly will be attached to the deposition and counsel witi be taking the photegraphs scrosa street so that they can be Ph. 561.682.0005 ~ Fax, 561.682.1771 ~~ ="1655-Palm Beach Lakes Blvd, Suite 500 - West Palm Beach, F-33401. Page 124 MR. GOLDBERGEA: Let me finish. I'm not interrupting now. WR. GOLDSEAGER: But if it will make you happler if T go over to Ms. Selohlavek’s office this deposition and then I'll give them to the 1 2 3 ‘ 5 and make « copy of those photos that were past of 6 ? court reporter, 1°21 be happy to do it. 8 I trast you implicitly, MR, LROPOLD: however you with to de it. Mowever, the documents, before they leave this sean, need to pave an exhibit aticky on thes with the eppeopraate ~~ MR. GOLDSEAGER! Want te go get some? Wo don't have any. WR. LEOPOLD: lat we finish the record, please. I wilt do that. Excuse me, You can’t de that to the court reporter. She's going to stroke You have to let me =~ ost, You can't de that. You wa. TRIN: Finish your sentence, Ted. the most long-winded lawyer I've evez seen in 20 ” ay i Finish your sentence. MA. LEOPOLD: Jack, tell him not to raise Bis voice, please. M8. TEIN: Finish your sentence. fs there going to be « peried at the and of the sentence or Ph. 561.682.0905 - Fax. 561.682.1771 Pair Beach, FL 33401 EFTA00222285

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@) ss C fe it can't comma? sanctions. the roam without them being marked. 18 Asproper. they are to be marked. ‘that throwghost for what ever reason, pentence Deceuse you're talking about sosething you have no ides. just going to be comms after comma after Go sheed, lawyer. MR. LEOPOLD: All right. ? The exhibits, prevent you from taking thes, Sut I will object and 1 will be Bringing it to the court for you cannot take the exhibits out of 1 want then marked, because you cannet identity in the record 10 what wos used. And with el) due respect to oe Me. Goldberger, 7 do not -- the way this 12 deposition is going, T de eet want to rely om 13 Counsel from Missi te mark the appropriate Mu exhibits, I will not do that, 1 cannot prevent a5 you from taking them. But if you do, 7 will be 1 Deinging the gatter to the court with appropriate 17 panctions, because that ia improper, Thet is When you use something in # deposition, And you have refused to do MR. TRIN: You're wrong, Viatah your Every single one is marked, Ted. Every single one is already merked. Mut you wast to Ph, 561.682.0905 - Fax. 551.682.1771 have a ees nuveun care 0 v exhibl’ That 4 21 enpoot finish. record. | ______ x65 eat Beach Lakes Biv, Sue SOO Wiest Palm Beach, FL 33401 You behave. WR, LEOPOLD: Don't point your finger at we. TEIM: Lasten. Be quiet and I won't need to point it at you. NR. LEOPOLD: Don't point your fisger et == MR, TEIN: Mr. Lecpeld -~ MR. LEOPOLD: Don"t point your finger at 0 MR, TEIN: Mr. Lacpold, let me finish. . LEOPOLD: bea't raise your voice Term: Mr. Leopold =~ LEOPOLD: Jack, do you want to take t this? we. TET: Let me finish my sentence, the ts ace parked, We are walking out of here, You ere someane who misrepresents the It is absolutely atrocious what you do. this x not how o lewyer should behave. tion is over, You will get your sxhibits, 22 Mr, Leopold. OR, GOLORERGER: 1 understand what you're 24 saying, Michael, avd T understand Ted's position. Just so there's -- we're going to have lote Ph. 561.682.0905 ~ Fax. 561,682,171 __.__. 1655 Pain Blanch Latkes Blvd, Suite 590 - West Palm Beach, FL 33402. Page 125} Page 127 grque about everything. Ever single one ix 1 2 already marked. Tan‘t that silly, Ted? 3 Me. GOLDOZRGER: Thirty years of doing this 4 and I beve never bed an argument over this. 5 mk. TEIN; You've nade ~~ Ted, you are 6 ebstructionist, you sre a Mar. You have Lied and 7 misrepresented things, for the record. Yeu are @ grandstending. 9 MR, LBOTOLD: You seed to back up. 10 WR. TRIB: Mo, no. i'm going to finish. 11 MB, LEOPOLD: You can finish, but don't 12 hover ever me. n Wm. TEIN: We ome is hovering over you. u Stop trying to sake » lying record. : 15 yet me ony something eles. 16 Don’t you Gare threaten me with sanctions, uw after you Lied in « letter to my co-counsel about 18 the fact =~ be quiet, Be quiet and let me raniss. : 19 You Lied in # Letter to ay co-cocnsel, : 20 Mr. Leopold, in which you ssid -~ it was @ 21 complete and utter lie -- that you were | 22 unavailable this sorning becaust you had & } 23 beacing, That was s lie. I have never seen * ' 24 muyer deign to do something Like that. fe you will get the ex == be quiet. tat me Page 128 of issues in this case. We're going to have iota of xeasons to disagree. I'm going te take it over sow and I'm going to make copies and T'm going to give then te Ms. Consor. If you want to go find some exhibit labels and put some exhibit Jabels on it, de ay quest. But that's what I'm offering te do. ‘THE MITNESS! Let m9 aay two things, because I am happy to always civagree, and with you, 7 have ao problen; we could always do it professionally. 1 have not problem. I want to say two things fo the record is very cleez. Since for whatever reason 7 have able to lock at exhibits, because they pefused to have been shown to we -~ MR. TEIN: That's « lie. not been MR. LEOPOLD: -~ Jack, af you represent that the documents have the appropriate exhibit ' nuabers or some identifying aarkings, 25, 36.000, whatever they may be, then you can take then, make copies, send me 2 copy, make sure the court reporter gets # copy and then send me @ bill for ny copies, that's fine, 1 didn't know that they ave marked that way because I haven't been able to Ph. 561.682.0905 - Fax. 561.682.1771 ___-1655 Pam Beach Lakes Bivg., Sute 500 - West Palm Beach, FL33401_ EFTA00222286

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€) Page 129 MA. GOLOGERCER: They are barcoded, and the . LEOFORD: Wo, no, no. 1 Sust put it on monber that we've sede reference to in the the secord, 1 will get an affidavit -~ t's Geposition coincides with the barcoding. assuming it sounds Like you need it -- from Mr. MA. LEOPOLD; That's fine, Bight by eleven Pincus. I have no clue about what happened and coler laner copies are fine. why Lt was canceled. ALL 7 was teld when T was MS. BELOGLAVEK: The State Attorneys Office out of town yesterday was that the hearing this is got going te charge enybody for color copies 1 porning was cancelled. prist out. cea awe ewe MB, GOLOBENGER: <*11 take your word for MR, LEOPOLD: That's fine. He's going to take them back to his office. wa. LeoPOLD: Tf you want an affidavit, Secondly -- and t will be wore than happy T*Ll get it for you. 13 We. GOLDGERGER: It's @ personal issue for u“ me because I had to Gisrupt a vacation end if it OQ to do it, because it sounds like you all know sore Q about it than I -= but i'm happy to get affidavits from Me, Pincas, Judge Stern, everybody else about i 15 vas done just because it wasn't convenient for what oth ee: le | happened w: + hearing today, because T | 16 you, then t'm offended by that. But if you're know very Little about it. Sut ay representations | 0 tebling me that it was planwed and 45 didn'e are what they are. 18 happen, f°11 take your word for it. %. GOLOBERGER: They stay -~ 13 WR. LEOPOLD: I am more than happy to get MR. LEOPOLD: Let me just finish for the 20 you an affidavit, because T don't know the reason record. 2 why it wes canceled other thas the fact that T's My representations or comments shout what 22 aesening since my Goposition was taken for four 23 howrs on Monday for preparation for the hearing happened, representation abost this hearing thas morning, I know very little about it. 1 == 24 today, for whatever reason it was canceled, I am O MR. GOLD@ERGER; I'L) take your word om — — ( 23 told it is being re-seticed. Why Lt was canceled, Ph, 561.582.0905 - Fax. 561.662.1771 - : ____ 1655. Pain Beach Lakes Bivd., Suite 500 - West Palm Beach, FL 33401 Ph. 561.682.0905 - Fax. 561,662.2772 nr ____— 1655. Palm Beach Lakes Bhvd., Sufte $00 - West Paim Beachy, FL 3340 es) Page 131 @ I have no idea, but if your co-counsel wishes an cRRererears affidewst to that effect from Mr, Pincus, I'm more tnan Seppy to get it. But i doe't know the reason why it van canceled. MR. TRIN; 1 don't need it. But what I do The State of Florida, County of Pala Beach. take issue with Ss regardless of why it was conceled, you owed as the courtesy of sayitg, You I hereby certify that I have read the know what?) We can stast earlier this worming. foregoing deposition by ne given, and that the statements MR. LEOPOLD: I ove you nothing. ye contained herein are true aed correct to the Dest of ay MR, TRIB: I don't care, Ponte inter; satel knowledge and belief, with the exception of any corrections or notations made om the errata sheet, if one Beckuse Jack canceled hin vacation plans © because of you. 3) WR. GOLORERGER: That's ail right, that's was executed. ell right. wa. TEI: And you're selfish. And this ! deposition is over, Good-by Mr. Leopold. WR. OOLDBEAGES: You can go off the record, VW Ph, $61,682.0905 - Fax, $61,682.1771 _ 1658 Palm Beach Lakes Bivd., Suite 500 - West Palm Beach, FL 33405 Ph, 561.682.0905 - Fex. 561.682.1771 ____ 1655 Pair Beach Lakes Bivd., Suthe $00 - West Paim Beach, FL33401 EFTA00222287

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© Case 9:08-cv- _____ 2855 Palm Beach Laces Bivd., Suite 500 ~ West Paton Beach, FL 33402 i ne au ew 15 6 17 18 19 20 a 22 23 26 25 = 119-KAM Document 15-2 & Associates avering aed Iranucepcen, re " . 200 Office of the State Attorney 401 S. Dixte. Highway West Palm Besch, Floride 3340) IM RE: STATE OF FLORIDA -¥- JnvyReY EPSTEIN CASE WO.; 2006 CFOS#SEAXX Page 133 Piease tako notice thet on Wednesday, the 20th of February, 2098, you gave your deposition in the above-referred matter. At that time, you did not waive signature, Tt S# now necessary that you sign your deposition. Piease call cur office at the below-listed number ts schedule wn appointaent between the hours of 9:09 a.m. and 4:30 p.m. Meeday through Priday. 3f you do not read and sign the deposition withie a reasonable time, the original, which has already been forwarded to the ordering attorney, ray be filed with the Clerk of the Court. If you wish to waive your signature, sige your nane in the blank at the bottom of thie letter and return it to ua. Very trely yours, Jadith F. Conaor, FRX contor & Associates Reporting and Transcription 168$ Palm Beach Lakes Boulevard, Suite 500 west Palm Reach, Florida 33401 1 do hereby waive my signature: cc vie transcript: Ph, 561.682.0905 - Fax. 961.682.1773 Page 135 THE STATE OF FLORIDA, } COUNTY OF PALH BEACH. ) I, the undersigned authority, certify that personally appeared before ae on the 20th ef February, 2008 and was duly sworn. WITWESS my hand enc official seal this 25 day of February, 2008, a Judith ¥, Comsor, FPR Sotary Public - State of Florida Ph, 961.682.0905 - Fax, 561.682.1773 ~~~ ——-1655 Palm Beach Lakes Bie, Suite 300 - West Palm Beach, Fl 3340! Page 134 . HRRATA SHEET Iw Rh: STATE-V-JERPREY EPSTEIN TAKEN: February 20th, 2008 00 WOT WRITE ON TRANSCRIPT - ENTER CHANGES SERE PAGE ¢ LiNR @ CHANGE PERSON Piense forward the original signed erzata sheet to this office so that copies may be distributed to al) parties. Under penalty of perjury, 1 declare that T have read ay deposition and that St ds true and correct subject to any changes in form or substance antered here. SIGKATUME OF DEPORENT: DAY Ph. 561.682.0905 - Fax. 562.682.2771 _____1655 Palm Beach Lakes Bivd., Suite 500 - West Pam Beach, FL 33401 Page 136 CRERTIPICATE ‘The State Of Florida, } County Of Palm Neack. } 1, Judith F. Consor, Court Reporter and Notary Public in and for the Stete of Florida at large, do hereby certify that I was suthorized to uy stenographically report the deposition of thet » review of the transcript was requeatecy the foregoing pages, numbered from 1 to 131, inclusive, aze a true and correct transcription of my stenographic notes of said deposition. I farther certify that said deposition was taken at the tine and place hereinabove set forth and that the taking cf seid deposition was commenced and completed a9 hereimabove set out. I further certify that 2 am not an sttorney or counsel of any of the parties, nor an I @ relative or employee cf any attorney or counsel of party coanected with the action, nor am I financially interested in the action. The foregoing cert. tion of this transcript doen not apply to any reproduction of the same by any weans unless under the direct control and/or direction of the certifying reporter. DATED this 23 day of February, Lak L Judith F. Gonsor, Court Sepol Fhorida Professional Reporter Ph. 561.682.0905 - Fax. 561.662.1771 1655 Palm Beach Lakes Biva., Sute 500 - West Paim Beach, FL 33401 EFTA00222288