PY (USANYS) [Contractor] From: EE (sans) Sent: Monday, October 25, 2021 5:55 PM To: SS 05.05) A SANS I cusanysy Subject: Call with Dr. Rocchio - 10/25/21 Call with Dr. Rocchio = a a ¢ Looked for a few hours and didn’t any articles that had sections focused on third party presence e Has seen grooming the environment in forensic and clinical practice. Have provided treatment to adult men who were abused as children as part of boy scouts. Often they described a troop leader who was primary perpetrator, but often there was another adult/senior boy, who was also a victim but also used (or coerced) to procure or befriend other kids. ® Does not specifically use the term “grooming the environment,” but this is part of her views in general about grooming. ¢ Perpetrators put themselves in positions where they have ready access. Locate themselves where there’s a lower barrier for contact and reduce natural hesitancy because the perpetrator belongs there 3502-025 Page | of | SUBJECT TO PROTECTIVE ORDER PARAGRAPHS 7, 8, 9, 10, 15, and 17 EFTA_00001633 EFTA00156974