DIGITALLY RECORDED SWORN STATEMENT OF OIG CASE #: 2019-010614 DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE OFFICE OF THE INSPECTOR GENERAL AUGUST 12, 2019 FENTON TRANSCRIPTION 28720 Roadside Drive, Suite 250 SDNY_00007896 EFTA_00001020 EFTA00135369

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Ww MR. a : Today is Monday, will be a voluntary furtherance of OIG in will now identify all present in interview. I’1ll ask everyone to say and spell their last y their working title MR. es : Thank you. EMPLOYEE 22 Reque SDNY_00007898 EFTA_00001022 EFTA00135371

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s) Nh Nh Nh N WwW wo WwW WwW nN Basis. Do you have any questions about this form? No. Would you like time to review it with an attorney, or would you like For now, I don’t need an Ar > you currently of any substances, or i oy) there any reason to prevent you from fully understanding my questions, and answering truthfully today? your, hand and repeat after me. meMPLOYER 22 aM SE 22 MPLOYER 22 reby solemnly swear or solemnly swear or MR. a : That the statements that SDNY_00007899 EFTA_00001023 EFTA00135372

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wo w That the statements I’m about to make. Shall be the er K uth and the Shall be the truth and the Thank you, sir. Um-hum. Warden would you mind telling us a little bit about your career with BOP? When you started, how you became a Warden? Correctional Officer, and I was promoted to a Lieutenant. rom there, I went to Special Investigative Agent at our regional office, and then I went from there, I was promoted to Captain, and then I was Ass ° ciate Warden, and then from there I went to DC as a Chief Internal Affairs, and now in my present position. MR. a : Great. How long have you SDNY_00007900 EFTA_00001024 EFTA00135373

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wo been the Warden? role, you’ve done a lot of internal investigations with the prison and you’ve worked with the Department of Justice for -- Um-hum. -- moving forward, as a note for the record, you’re aware that failure to be honest with us today would be considered a criminal offense; correct? MR. a : Okay, great. Let’s talka little bit about some overall policies at the prison to start with. So, actually let me back today to talk about, ly Jeffrey Epstein. Um-hum. The inmate. Um-hum. ust Would you mind telling us a little bit about when, your SDNY_00007901 EFTA_00001025 EFTA00135374

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10 11 12 13 17 18 19 understanding of when he arrived and that type of, when he arrived, how he was placed, where he was placed, and the reasons behind that? I don’t remember the specific date he arrived, but we didn’t, what happened was, we weren’t told that he was going to be coming to the institution. MR. a: Okay. Bae Chen he initially came, he was dropped off on the weekend, and we didn’t find out until Monday, myself, that he had been placed at the institution. And from then on, we, you know, went through the whole process of the screening, his medical stuff. Just normal procedures that, we follow and (Indiscernible *00:04:04). MR. a: Okay. Now when you say “he was_dropped off over the weekend”, when somebody arrives at the facility, what’s the normal -- I mean typically if somebody’s that high profile -- MR. a: Um-hum. Eee; SCwe: should’ve been notified and said hey, he’s coming in. = SDNY¥_00007902 EFTA_00001026 EFTA00135375

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10 11 12 13 14 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 weren’t. ve. I: | okay. | EMPLOYEE 22 [io know, I mean, we saw it on the news, but it didn’t say. They just said they had him in custody, but we didn’t get any formal, I didn’t get any formal notice that he had been brought into the institution. So, he was dropped off, and you know, the Lieutenant on shift processed him in and brought him into the institution. . We, didn’t find out or realize it until Monday. MR. a: So, it was Monday that you first were officially made aware of it? Wa Cithat I was made aware. You know, we found out, and I don’t remember if it was from looking at the news reports, we put it together that he had been brought into the institution. We went through our Monday morning meeting that we went through. So, that’s when -- MR. a : When he first arrived, was he placed in general population? Do you know where he was placed? I don’t recall where he was placed when he came in. SDNY_00007903 EFTA_00001027 EFTA00135376

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wo MR. ae : At some point, he was placed in Special Housing Unit? Yes Known as the SHU. Right how did he end up there? Well, he was a new commitment. He was high profile. So, we placed him in the Special Housing Unit so we ia U can further evaluate, you know, his status. he ready for general population? And we do that with all inmates, but) -- then to okay, see, any separation.issues. Any threats to him, before we put him out there in general population, population? Was he ever in general don’t recall. I don’t, first day sure, so I mean, the 37 to confirm. to look at I would have SDNY_00007904 EFTA_00001028 EFTA00135377

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ow oO o wo 10 MR. a : But as far as you know, that Monday, the first business day after the weekend he was initially dropped off. Right. MR. QM: | from that point forward, was he ever in general population? No. MR. a: Okay. What are the policies in terms of, or is there poliey that dictates when somebody goes into general population from the SHU after the first arrival? | EMPLOYEE 22 | Well, what we do is we evaluate the individual to see if they’re ready for general»population, if they can hang, you know -- Um-hum. -- if they can populate. And it’s a number of factors. It depends. I mean, if I have a gang member coming in, I’m taking into consideration separation issues on it. If it’s, you know, somebody that might’ve been fraud or bank fraud, then we determine if it’s any issues of he SDNY_00007905 EFTA_00001029 EFTA00135378

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10 11 12 13 14 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 11 them going into the general population. So, it’s a case-by-case basis on how we determine it. MR. a: Okay. What are the policies in terms of when you’re notified if someone enters Special Housing Unit or is discharged from Special Housing Unit? Well what it is is, it’s routed the individual, it’s called a Release Form. So, several people sign it. They review it. I believe psychology, CMC, the Captain, and it goes to the Associate Warden and then they sign what we call is a Kick-Out. Meaning everybody’s reviewed it and said, okay, this person is appropriate for general population. MR. a : Okay. For Mr. Epstein, after that, he was never put in general population; correct? mu 8 MR. a : Was the determination to keep him in Special Housing? What was the communication that goes on there? | EMPLOYEE 22 [GEA tele initially when he came in, it’s the goal to determine, okay, can they go to general population. SDNY_00007906 EFTA_00001030 EFTA00135379

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s) is] Nh N Nh S) wo co wo ho WwW Okay. So, between evaluating him, at the same time, we’re looking at saying, okay, cz to general population. Um-hum. it’s a dual role that Sure. But I had tten word, and I don’t recall where from my»Regional Director which stated he’s not to go to general population until further notice. MR. a : The Regional Director, where is that in the chain of command for BOP? Director. MP LOY 22 This is the Northeast Region. Where we have 21 institutions. So, he supervises SDNY_00007907 EFTA_00001031 EFTA00135380

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N WwW wo Nh WwW WwW nN b Wo Yeah. And PY told you, do you recall if it was verbally or an email? Phone call? but I to go would have to with 2at.\But maybe date. But it a couple wee after he too, check if there was an email I don’t want to give was within that, r he arrived. aft i) SDNY_00007908 EFTA_00001032 EFTA00135381

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s) Nh No S) N WwW wo Nh WwW WwW nN 14 told you to keep him, or it was agreed upon -- Um-hum. -- to keep him in Special notify that he sing Unit? How Um-hum. which is my Associate Wardens, the Captain, my and we have our And that’s basically how we SDNY_00007909 EFTA_00001033 EFTA00135382

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~ ow oO ~—] 12 13 14 17 18 19 MR. a : Were there any other specific directions or instructions given to the staff regarding him? | EMPLOYEE 22 | Well, so at the time of him staying in there, we had to find him initially a roommate. ve. I: okay. So, and it’s hard especially in Special Housing Unit when you’ve got gang members in there that are not appropriate to be housed with. So, we came up with, I came up with Tartaglione, who was in there. White male, probably be able to cope with him. And that’s typically how we, you know, that’s part of the evaluation process. MR. a : Is it standard for inmates in Special, Housing Unit to have cellmates? Bie Oe typically would like for them to have it. wR. (I: sure. But certain situations dictate that they can. If an inmate’s a total separation from a group, and we get word from US Attorney’s office or the arresting agents that, hey, he’s to be totally separated, then SDNY_00007910 EFTA_00001034 EFTA00135383

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wo = nn they would be housed by themselves. They could have an incident in the institution, you know, for example our gang members, somebody has an issue, and for example, the Bloods, then we have to say hey, let’s separate him from there. MR. a : Was there any directions specifically hat Mr. Epstein was to havea cellmate at all times? From psychology when -- Okay. -- said, hey, that he’s required, he needs to have a cellmate at all times. later on? When he first arrived, there was no And that occurred specific directions regarding that; correct? No, it wasn’t. You mean when he first came Initially. I don’t recall any talks SDNY_00007911 EFTA_00001035 EFTA00135384

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ow oO 12 13 14 17 18 19 20 about him. MR. a: Okay. Bee SC itiaily, and trying to figure out when he first came in, how he was housed. I don’t recall how he was housed when he first came in, but -- MR. QJ: Okay. «The McC is no stranger to high profile -- mu cht. MR. a : -- inmates. Generally speaking, how do you normally, or generally handle these type of high profile inmates? Any other special considerations or concerns. How does this work? Bae gein, you come in. We evaluate him to determine, okay, if they can go out to general population or not. We’ve had, you know,.we’ve had a bunch that come in that were able to go out. We had Siock (phonetic sp.), you know, the phone that, I don't know if you recall, the one that sent the bombs to the ex-presidents. MR. QM: (indiscernible *00:12:41). MR. QM: okay. | EMPLOYEE 22 | Him. So, when he first came SDNY_00007912 EFTA_00001036 EFTA00135385

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ne was him in to determine -- 7 MR. ae : We, pausing the interview 8 at a.m d). 3 We're recvimind he interview +e 9 We're resuming the interview with a 0 5 The time is»now 10:56. Joining the interv SDNY_00007913 EFTA_00001037 EFTA00135386

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ow oO ~—] 12 13 14 17 18 19 20 19 just going over some of the overall high- profile inmates and the general -- me oe hun. MR. a : -- evaluation of them. Going back to, you said earlier that a few weeks had occurred. You and the Regional Director discussed keeping Epstein in the Special Housing Unit. ma Oe hon. MR. a : How often was the Regional Director being briefed on Epstein? I guess), the situation dictated it. If something happened, then we’d notify him, or,he needed some questions for him, he would call me. But I don’t want to, I don’t recall the specific amount of times. But we were in contact. MS. a : Um-hum. Bae ecuent contact. MR. a : Okay. How often were you, are you notified differently of high-profile inmates or how often were you being aware or notified of Epstein’s housing situation? | EMPLOYEE 22 | Well, I mean, he was in the Special Housing Unit. So, I knew where he was. SDNY_00007914 EFTA_00001038 EFTA00135387

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ow oO o wo ] nN wasn’t like I had to be updated as to where he was. I knew where he was. I mean, I knew that he went on his attorney visits, spent the whole day there. Would be the first one in, last one out. So, I mean, that’s what I knew. And then naned n I kind of (Indiscernible *00:02:0 (=) ) with the attorneys. I had some outside attorneys complain about, you know, they were taking up the attorney room. So,,I knew that was, you know, those issues were coming up with the attorney room. MR. a: Okay. Going back general policies at the -- ct ° Um-hum. -- within the BOP, fu a G c pw | Ha K = a 0 5 tl pstein arrive -- Um-hum. -- I think we already covered this, but just to, were any special arrangements or considerations given to him? i] SDNY_00007915 EFTA_00001039 EFTA00135388

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o wo MR. ae : Obviously you said earlier he was put in the SHU on Monday. MR. a : After, was it, at that point, was there any issues th im t you’re aware rr of regarding him? Anything that you needed to be aware of other than just who he was? Eee SOO. )3=o Just who he was and the basic screening. The intake screening, MR. a : Okay. At the time he first arrived, did you have any, was there any notification of any mental, health concerns? | EMPLOYEE 22 | No, mot that I know of. MR. a : Okay. How -- Are you talking about the weekend he came in, or -- MR. a : Yeah. (Indiscernible *00:03:19). First arrival. That weekend, I don't know. But I know afterwards, he was medically assessed and they were, you know, our health 3) service department assessed him and he, I think he might have told him that he had certain medications. SDNY_00007916 EFTA_00001040 EFTA00135389

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ow oO ~—] Okay. When -- -- that he was taking. When inmates come into the Mcc, are they all screened for mental health issues or medical issues? Well, yes. They come in, you’re screened for your medical. The unit team screens you and psychology screens you. But -- MR. a : What timeframe does that occur? Typically like with him, he came in on the weekend. So, it depends if there was a psychologist. Maybe the next day someone would go screen him, the on-call psychologist. But, you know, or Monday if someone came in. But typically the on-call psychologist is there through the weekend and will screen them. MR. QJ: Ss Who is notified of the results of those screenings? of? MR. a: Of the medical screen and psychological screenings, who gets notified of that? SDNY_00007917 EFTA_00001041 EFTA00135390

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ow oO wo uw fon) find something in there? | EMPLOYEE 22 | Like what would be an example? I mean -- MR. a : Any medical concerns that people need to be aware of. Any psychological issues. How does that information get Because when we talk about medical issues, some of that falls under privacy issues. Um-hum. So, you know, it’s not going y- Ok wu -- just like that. Sure. But as far as psychological, if it was something that psychologists did an interview and said, hey, there’s a mental health issue or something, then she would, you know, she would let her Associate Warden know. She would let me know that, hey, there’s some f mM ue n SDNY_00007918 EFTA_00001042 EFTA00135391

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ow oO o wo arrived, issues mental recall any he was on certain It it was general. that’s a general poli ve. a: screening. »They all oe. a: of those screenings, any bearing on where g special housing like I said, the individual comes mn ues, then they can populate like anyone else. Mental health, mental health. medications or The screening, Ri no separation issues, 24 Okay. And when he first were you made aware of any medical or I don’t But I told that was whatever. But wasn’t -- And justy, and cy for all inmates that yeah. Just the medical get that? ght. Is there any, as a result is there any, does it have they’re placed, whether or general population? typically if you do, if you do an intake screening and in and they have no and, you know, But SDNY_00007919 EFTA_00001043 EFTA00135392

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ow oO o wo if there are issues with them going out in general population; i.e., safety issues, then you would be placed in the Special Housing. Until we could further evaluate if you could go to general population, MR. a : If someone during. the mental health screening, the mental, health, the psychologist deemed them to be suicidal -- Okay. MR. a: -- what are the suicidal watch policies as it relates to that? Mia OSes if the psychologist was to say, hey, they’re suicidal, then they would be placed on suicide watch. Now if the psychologist is not there and someone exhibits suicidal ideations or statements or thoughts, then they’ re placed on suicide watch. MR. a : Can you explain to me what suicide watch is, where it is in the MCC -- It’s on the second floor of the institution, on the same floor of the hospital. SDNY_00007920 EFTA_00001044 EFTA00135393

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wo uw fon) No ine) ul there. An inmate. the cell? Outside the cell. a cell where you sit and observe. tal fu hey al if rt he companion No, it’s a trained inmate companion. Now, we have four cells. If those cells get full, then we have to move them up to the Special Housing Unit and then put a staff watch on them. MR. a : Okay. What policies are in place for suicide watch as it relates to staff response, notification, how people get notified, if they’re moving from suicide watch to off suicide watch. How does that work? That works through Okay. Psychology evaluates and they’1l say, okay, we’ve evaluated him and, you know, wherever we’re going, typically you U always usually go from the Special Housing Unit SDNY_00007922 EFTA_00001046 EFTA00135395

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wo 28 to suicide. So, they’d say, okay you know what, they’re ready to go back up. the program, is the psychologist the program rm t role, how does coordinator? the department. | EMPLOYEE 22 | And then she has various And then evaluate because we have a different mission as far as we have a forensic mission. So, we get a lot of forensic studies in the institution. psychologist also that handles the inmate population but they work together and they handle everything. MR. a : Okay. Who’s ultimately responsible for placing somebody on suicide watch or off suicide watch? Bae Oc 11 placing it, member comes and says hey, this guy i 7] ct wu mh mh h- i] SDNY_00007923 EFTA_00001047 EFTA00135396

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ow oO o wo suicidal. You can place him on suicide watch. MR. a : Okay. Anybody in the institution can do that? Yeah. If I come upon an inmate that’s saying, “Hey, I’m going to kill myself.” Okay, we get him on suicide watch. Psychology comes and, you know, evaluates them and then comes up with a plan. Within the psychology Um-hum. MR. a : -- or the medical department there in mental health, who there ultimately makes that decision? EMPLOYEE 2 I believe, and don’t quote me on this. I believe the psychologists. You know, they’re trained professionals. So, they can make a decision and they consult with the Chief in, you know, determining okay what’s the plan of action to move forward. MR. a: And are you, when someone’s placed in suicide watch, are kK a 7 notified of that? SDNY_00007924 EFTA_00001048 EFTA00135397

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wo N ips) ine] c= WwW i) Nh Nh wi ies) =] 22 Yeah. They send out a form on suicide watch, ce -- we’re aware of who it is and then they’1ll send out a form if there’s no one on there. MR. a : You said earlier that while on suicide watch, there was an observer. 22 Right. How does an inmate become It’s an inmate companion. So, they have to go through training. They have to take courses, and then they become eligible to become a companion. MR. a : Who authorizes the use of an inmate companion? chology department MR. ae : Do you have any input as or training or companion program? SDNY_00007925 EFTA_00001049 EFTA00135398

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s) is] Nh N Nh S) wo co wo ho WwW MP LOY 22 No. MR. a : Does every institution have an inmate companion program? Yes. Who’s the Chief if someone is on them; correct? Well, in conjunction with our come to the determination that hey, you know what, they no longer need to be on suicide MR. a : Okay. But as the clinical s ultimately responsible. She’s not the clinical. sycholo SDNY_00007926 EFTA_00001050 EFTA00135399

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s) is] Nh N Nh S) wo co wo ho WwW ist for my clarification, is ultimately re suicide The Ok Clinical Director Who in ay. isa i] fine. ank you for clarifying. the medical staff, who in the, medical onsible for removing watch? psycholo department determines to remove somebody from -- MR. , on staff. Again, 226) i. uh, four. , who in the p it depends on who’s So -- we have one, two, (Indiscernible We have four a : You have four And any one of those SDNY_00007927 EFTA_00001051 EFTA00135400

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ow oO o wo with your decision, then we debate it and then we ultimately come to a decision. to yay or nay. it’s kind of the same While on suicide watch, you said there’s a 24-hour companion. What does staff do for the inmates while they’re on suicide watch? Well we have a camera, well they’re trained to, there’s a phone there. So, let’s say something happened where an inmate’s trying to do harm to himself. They pick up the phone and they call for assistance, because it goes directly to control center, and we respond accordingly to it. But we also in our control center, while the individual is on suicide watch, there’s a camera there. What specific training relates to the suicide SDNY_00007929 EFTA_00001053 EFTA00135402

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wo N ips) ine] c= WwW i) Nh Nh wi ies) uw watch? Once a year during our annual training, we have suicide prevention training. During our annual training. And that’s required for MR. a : What does that training MP LOY 22 Suicide, signs, prevention, jthing pertaining to suicide, sir. Signs to,look >for. MR. a : Is there any specific staff that are more trained, or specifically trained for this area of the prison? Our Special Housing Unit staff get quarterly suicide prevention MR. a : Okay. Is that part of ar something the MCC does independent, or is that policy dictated? How does that -- SDNY_00007930 EFTA_00001054 EFTA00135403

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s) is] Nh N Nh S) wo co wo ho WwW on watch, we'll contact that says, notes and we’11l place him on and their doc A erly training. watch, psyc " “I placed inmate” -- No. Psychology Okay. here umentation will and there, in that they we s our policy dictates That’s BOP policy; that hey we need to place him handle SDNY_00007931 EFTA_00001055 EFTA00135404

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ow oO o wo uw fon) ive) ~ placed on it, when they were placed on it. MR. a : So, the psychology department is responsible for documenting when people come in in treatment. We, you know, we have what we call a daily log in the -- MR. a : Um-hum. {| EMPLOYEE 22 | -- institution. ,So, the dog would annotate somebody was placed on suicide watch also. MR. a: Okay. Is there any specific forms or reports that get filled out when somebody is removed from suicide watch? Wee Ct believe psychology would do those forms and saying in their reports why they were removed and if they’re ready to be released. MR. : Do you get those forms? I don’t get the special medical ones. I just, with the notification that, you know, with the one that email that MR. a: Um-hum. Bae; Cita the individual w released from suicide watch. fw 13) SDNY_00007932 EFTA_00001056 EFTA00135405

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is] wo WwW MR. ae : Do you get notified, you just said you get notified in the email that somebody’s removed or -- It’s an email that the y department puts out stating who’s on ’s been removed. suicide watch, who MR. ae : Is that a daily list? send it once a day, or when someone How does that -- a daily one.» And -- is) oO 5 watch, who’s, you know, who’s got released, and Who It’s a group. It’s a group 1) | wu b be rt ig my ct Q wo rt if) wn ent to all department heads, (Indiscernible *00:17:07). ive) o SDNY_00007933 EFTA_00001057 EFTA00135406

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s) Fy) a w t b i] nN i) Nh S) N WwW wo WwW WwW nN And, don’t quote me on that, at the chain -- institution-wide email? institution wide you have the different departments on it. institution wide. MR. a : Not every person in the institution gets that email, though? I don’t -- not an MCC all the expectation of supervisors and once they get this email? What are they supposed to do with that? I mean, it’s just a notification that individual’s being ive) io SDNY_00007934 EFTA_00001058 EFTA00135407

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ow oO wo uw removed from suicide watch. So, it depends on where they’re going. So, if they’re going back to Special Housing Unit, so it’s notification that hey, this person’s been taken off. We have nobody on watch right now. MR. a : Okay. Are they supposed to disseminate that? What are they supposed to do with that information? Are they,supposed to tell anybody where they -- Well, I mean when» that Um-hum. Wherever they’re going for, they’re going to be notified by psychology that they’ re coming, directly -- Okay. -- thing just to know that hey, this person is getting off of watch. whatever unit they’re going back to? 1ology will notify SDNY_00007935 EFTA_00001059 EFTA00135408

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wo uw fon) c= BR Well, it depends where Special Housing Unit down. And typically when you do, let’s fn y an individual has tried to commit suicide. It’s an infraction. So, they usually have an incident report that goes beyond that. So, you have to come up to the Special Housing Unit anyway before so that that infraction can be resolved. | EMPLOYEE 22 | So, there are a number of aspects of, you know, how. Did you go straight back or if you don’t go back there. MR. a : And this email that psychology. sends out with the list of who’s in and who’s,out of suicide watch -- Who’s on watch, yeah? MR. ae : -- is that once a day or twice a day? Is that morning and evening P EMPLOYEE 22 | When you come in in the SDNY_00007936 EFTA_00001060 EFTA00135409

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wo No 7) morning, they could say, you know, this i who’s on watch, and then you get another one stating who’s been released off of watch. MR. a : Okay. Is there any policy or stand n wu rd operation procedure on how (Indiscernible *00: il gets sent MR. a : How frequent that email -- But it should be at when they send it When somebody is MR. a : -- and placed in suicide watch on the second floor -- Um-hum. -- is anything done to their cell in Special Housing? Is there any precautions or anything that go into that? So, typically let’s say do leave, and it depends on how much space we SDNY_00007937 EFTA_00001061 EFTA00135410

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wo No ine) ul c= Wo have. We really don’t have that much space. So, usually that cell, depending on if when they were removed from the cell, if they had a cellmate. So, what happens if) that individual’s property is removed, and we could po ibly put somebody else in that cell. MR. Mr LOYE! Um -- . watch versus psychological, the psyche eval And again, the suicide that, you said that happened right away when someone first gomes»in the prison; correct? you said that people, inmates get that when they first come into the prison; correct? mae vee. they initially have to come and actually ychologically when SDNY_00007938 EFTA_00001062 EFTA00135411

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ow oO ~—] 12 13 14 17 18 19 20 44 perform -- Bee; Can initial intake screening. MR. a: Is there a level below suicide watch? Well we also have what we And I think the best way to describe that would be it’s a step-down from suicide watch. For example, we might have a mental health inmate that is just mentally, you know, out there. So, we’ll put them on psyche observations They haven’t said they’re going to hurt themselves, but they have the potential to do it. Somebody might be on narcotics and acting erratic and you don’t know what they’re on. So, they might end up doing it. But it’s a different type of observation because it’s not as stringent as suicide watch. MR. a: Okay. MS. a : Can you explain what that means? What are the requirements when an SDNY_00007939 EFTA_00001063 EFTA00135412

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10 11 12 13 14 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 ine) uw inmate is on psyche eval, or psyche observation? WeSC tt othey’re on psyche observation, we are not necessarily putting them in a smock. You know? You can still have your regular clothing. We’re just observing your behavior and that. So, that’s the difference. MS. a : And does the psychologist stop by every day? They’ re treated the same way as somebody that’s on suicide’watch. They’re evaluated, come up with a plan. They’re ready to be released. Keep them on, more along those lines. MS. a : Well is someone on psyche evaluation, do they have an inmate companion watching them? Mate OC’ syche obs also has an inmate companion. So, anybody in that area has an inmate watching them. MR. a : As the Warden, do you have any input on the determinate if someone’s in psychological observation, in suicide watch or observation status? Do you have any input on SDNY_00007940 EFTA_00001064 EFTA00135413

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wo 46 this is warranted But you’re briefed on it? I’m briefed on it Yes. Is that orally? Orally they’11 come and say, A well we’ll discuss an inmate saying, hey, he & has mental issues. I feel that they need to be m going with your evaluation. I’m not going to, and Ih fu o a fe) O Q So, I trust their judgment. MS. a : Can an inmate be taken off of suicide watch by i. Fe or her staf without consulting y i] Fh U of watch. So, they can make the determination and, you know, they send up to the Associate Warden, the Captain, and it will come to release and if SDNY_00007941 EFTA_00001065 EFTA00135414

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wo going off it. So, it doesn’t -- you MS. a : But do they -- -- have to necessarily, it Do they when that happens? Depending on, you know, df the case, you know? Who it is, you might like I said, a high profile individual they would say, “Hey, we’re taking him off,of watch. We’ we plan closely, re doing this.” So, we’ll be following the a 30 -- if MR. a : When it comes to Epstein, MR. a : -- he was in the mental health program. Can you just tell us your understanding of his involvement with the ck. a mental health SDNY_00007942 EFTA_00001066 EFTA00135415

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is oO wo o guess, reviewed by ‘re following him. He was on their case. Okay. And you want to know what I knew about it? Again, he was under their care. They were evaluating him, and, you know, going through their protocol to determine why he was on watch. Tf he was on suicide watch, can he come»off,of suicide watcl! suicidal? Things like that. MR. a : At any time, were you aware or notified of him being suicidal or having any suicidal ideations or attempts? Well we had an incident that it might’ve been a might not have been a suicide attempt. So, we followed the protocols SDNY_00007943 EFTA_00001067 EFTA00135416

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10 11 12 13 14 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 49 and put him on watch. There was also an internal investigation where he was interviewed and his cellmate was interviewed, and he basically denied (Indiscernible *00:25:35). MR. a: When you say “he denied”, Tartaglione -- Muay seid - MR. a: -- or Epstein? | EMPLOYEE 22 [RIOR Epstein stated that, “Hey, I didn’t try to kill myself.” And then Tartaglione said that he was sitting in the cell. He thought he was having a heart attack. So, I forget the words psychology used to determine what.thein conclusion was as far as the actual act. MR. a : Okay. MS. a: Did you review the incident report for the suicide attempt? | EMPLOYEE <2 7a reviewed the investigative report that the Lieutenant interviewed both of them, took their statements, and all that because the review process goes from, the Lieutenant initiates it. It goes to the Captain, Associate Warden, and myself. And then I, uh, sign off on it. SDNY_00007944 EFTA_00001068 EFTA00135417

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ow oO wo wi =] MS. QM: §9= Did you speak with J. a: when he was placed on suicide watch? P EMPLOYEE 22 [ACS have SHU meetings, and we have it once a week, and ter she had consulted with Mr. Epstein Ph Epstein was brought up, and she talked about Mr. Epstein. MS. a : After the suicide attempt? It’s Thursday n All right and -- -- what happens at the SHU It’s a list where we go around,and we talk about every inmate. We have inmates that are in there for infractions, criminal issues, from your office, a high- profile guy might come in. So, we just talk about, okay, what’s the status. If we call in a disciplinary citation, that means they’ve been sanctioned and they’re doing time, and then we look at the release date. We have some SDNY_00007945 EFTA_00001069 EFTA00135418

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10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 51 in there pending investigations. Cellphone introduction. Drug introduction. So, that goes through the investigative process, and then we have, you know, we also have our SAMs (phonetic sp.) inmates that are housed in there. So, we basically discuss and talk about every inmate. MS. a : And who attends these meetings? | EMPLOYER 22 [BUMS alban all the Associate Wardens, the Unit Managers, psychology, the Captain, the SHU Lieutenant, the Investigative Lieutenant. So, we just have everyone there that’s involved in the -- MS. a : And what’s your understanding of whether the SHU Lieutenant or the Captain brief out the duty Officers in the SHU about the outcome of that SHU meeting every I don’t understand what you So, do you have an understanding of whether, because the duty Officers are not present in the SHU meeting; SDNY_00007946 EFTA_00001070 EFTA00135419

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ow oO 10 11 12 13 18 19 20 No. MS. a : Do you have an understanding of how, for instance, if you tell the Lieutenant, I want this done in the SHU, will the Lieutenant then tell his duty Officers after the meeting? {| EMPLOYEE 22 | Well, the duty officer is supposed to make rounds throughout the institution when they’re on duty to observe and report if anything is not right. And then if we have incidents, they make notifications, you know, to the region. To the region? To, like let’s say we have a Um-hum. Mae Or smaybe like you said, a Suicide attempt. So, they have to contact the Regional Duty Officer. That’s their notification. They make the Regional Duty Officer, and then it moves up the chain that way, and then I have to make my notifications, which I make my notifications to the Regional Director. SDNY_00007947 EFTA_00001071 EFTA00135420

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2 bk ow oO ~—] 12 13 14 17 18 19 20 wi Ww MS. a : Okay. And my question is, does any information, do you have an understanding of whether any information that’s conveyed in these SHU meetings gets briefed down to the line Officers who are responsible for patrolling the SHU? Right. MS. QM: it does? Mae CXeeh. § The SHU Lieutenant is there, and he’s in the meeting, he om she is in the meeting, and they’re talking to their staff on what needs to be done or the status, you know. We’re going in and we determine if somebody can be released, then that will be conveyed back that hey, an individual can be released. MS. a: So, you were saying that after the,July 23*4 suicide attempt, there was a Thursday SHU meeting? ME cht. MS. a : In which i. | discussed at least her initial observations of Mr. Epstein? | EMPLOYEE 22 | Well, she would initially discuss it there, but she would also initially, SDNY_00007948 EFTA_00001072 EFTA00135421

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wo whoever, you know, if the Warden is there, initiate it to the AW. So, that would be something immediate that she would say, hey, he’s on watch and this happened. MS. QM: And what happened at that first SHU meeting after the suicide attempt? The week of July 22" tothe was, you know, I wa i) getting called. So, I don't know the specifics, but I was aware of, you know, I got called that hey, there was an attempt and the protocols were,followed. Notifications were made. MS. a : Okay. So, the following week which I think is the week of the 29t, MS. ae : You were back in the office? The 29% or the 30°, yeah. That Monday. So, if I can look at it. I think it’s the 29th -- SDNY_00007949 EFTA_00001073 EFTA00135422

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ow oO 10 11 12 13 18 19 20 Monday. I have to check, did I take a extra day or not? I’m not sure, but the 29t, I should’ve, I would’ve been back. MS. a: So, that Thursday meeting which looks like would’ve been August 15", you were present at? PEecores Mee MS. a: And what was discussed during the SHU meeting? The SHU meeting, we’1ll discuss every inmate. Every inmate on the list, what’s their status? Updates and all that stuff. MS. a : Okay. And specifically with respect to Epstein, what was discussed? I don’t recall specifically. I know we would’ve talked about him. We would’ve probably talked about, you know, his psychological status and I got to remember on the first, he was probably back in the Special Housing Unit. So, we were probably, you know, talking about his housing conditions, what’s he doing, and usually the conversation was during the day he was down at the attorney visits, you know? wi ul SDNY_00007950 EFTA_00001074 EFTA00135423

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ow oO ~—] wo wi n And then there were certain exams that we had to do that we wanted to get done on him. And then we discussed that. Uh, what kind of exams? Physicals and then, you know, and I don't know if that was before or after his sleep apnea machine that he was, .you know, requesting. Um-hum. Because typicallyy, you know, you have to go through the fitting and the process, but, you know, we allowed that one to come in. We checked it, security wise, and said it was fine to come in, and we got it. So, I think»we might have been discussing that, more along those lines. But we discuss every inmate in there. I don’t specifically remember it. I know we would’ve talked about what the issues were pertaining to him. Um, let’s go back to -- Um-hum. -- the suicide attempt. Okay. You said that you were on SDNY_00007951 EFTA_00001075 EFTA00135424

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ow oO o wo wi ~] leave that week, but you were notified by your Associate Warden? Associate Warden, yes. Okay. Were you receiving Not, I mean, they called me during the day the first time that it happened, Hey, this is what happened. He’s on watch. And then the next day, you know, he was still on watch. So, there was really no, I,didn’t need that much updates because we knew he was on watch. MS. a : Okay. mee MS. ae : And you notified your Regional Director? I notified my Regional Director., And then while I was on leave, my Regional Director was also in contact with my acting AW. Did the -- Acting Warden, I’m sorry. a : Did the Regional Director convey any directions to your AW during that time? SDNY_00007952 EFTA_00001076 EFTA00135425

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wo N ips) ine] c= WwW i) Nh Nh wi wi o 7) MPLOY 22 I believe just the basics, you know. Keep him updated what’s going on because at the time he was under psychology’s », Once they’re in that, s really not that much input to go on re on watch. MS. a : And then Epstein was downgraded from suici e watch to psyche q observation. Psyche observation. MS. a : While he was still on the second floor? Yes, that he was on psyche obs. MS. ae : Okay. And did you discuss that with J. BBB} at all? MP LOY 22 Yeah. We talked about it. Again, it was, you know, him going back up to the Special Housing Unit. Although he wasn’t suicidal, it was just a matter of, okay, who SDNY_00007953 EFTA_00001077 EFTA00135426

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wo 20 is] C N nN N rox) Nh Nh wi are wi ) we going to house him with? decision and then th to bac wo k. He wasn’t suicidal and that he was ready rk with him if Um-hum. You know, coming to that t would give her more time he needed. Okay. Did you have a sion with i. | about whether she ill suicidal? Again, if the psychologist ady and he goesy,I don’t I trust her n not suicidal and we trust her She said he was ready to go hh Za 0) al Did you review any o chologist’s reports -- I don’t -- -- during the time he was SDNY_00007954 EFTA_00001078 EFTA00135427

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ow oO wo No. I don’t review any medical files. MS. a : And he came back to the MS. a: And what discussions, did you have, let’s start with i. a. about the conditions of his confinement inythe SHU? he just said to get him in, w you know, we’re going to put him, get hima cellmate because typically every inmate that, you know, is on suicide or whatever, we say, okay, we’re»going to give him a cellmate. So, that was when we went through the process of figuring out, okay, who could we possibly put him in with? Um, the pickings were slim. So, I came up with Tartaglione, and no wait, no. Tartaglione, he had been put down there originally because of Tartaglione. MS. a : Um-hum. So, what happened was, we had to come up with some more inmates. So, I came up with three. It was, I believe, Reyes, SDNY_00007955 EFTA_00001079 EFTA00135428

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ow oO ~—] wo that he needed to have a That’s discussion was, for a cellmate. that up, spoke with my Regional believe he received it too, and conclusion Reyes would probably for him. So, we put him in the Reyes. Is there a whether an inmate needs to have after they’ve been taken off of sound correctional judgment. individual ds in the Special Housing Unit, somebody in there with them. Oe ee could happen. So, Um-hum. Because, know what to talk to, you know, pass typically put somebody in there we’re in a situation where they’ separated from somebody -- Um-hum. There’s no policy, not om suicide watch, I mean, the time. you tell Mr. | cellmate? what the So, I sent Director. I came to the be the best fit cell with policy about a cellmate suicide watch? but it’s even if mean an and you’re you typically want you never just for somebody So, you unless again re just totally SDNY_00007957 EFTA_00001081 EFTA00135430

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ow oO ~—] 12 13 14 17 18 19 ine) uw 63 -- and we can’t put them in there because it becomes a life safety issue. MS. a : How long after someone is taken off suicide watch would you typically direct that they have a cellmate? It would depend on the situation, because you could be getting released to a unit where you would automatically have a cellmate going through, or you know, direction could put out that, hey, make sure the individual has a cellmate. So, there’s no really timeframe on when you would decide that. MR. ae : Just to clarify, as it relates to, /I know you guys just discussed this, but just making sure I’m following you guys correctly. As it relates to the first suicide attempt back on July 23*4, Mr. Epstein. PrecOrhs aaae MR. : You were on leave. Yeah, the 224, MR. a : You were notified via telephone of this, and you notified the Regional Director. Is that correct? Pp EMPLOYEE 22 | Yeah, of the, yeah, I did SDNY_00007958 EFTA_00001082 EFTA00135431

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1 Warden, so she -- 2 MR. a : Acting Warden. Who was that? At the time, I believe it She would’ve notified the And she would’ve notified WwW but she was just calling me -- Epstein was removed from 20, suicide watch to That he was being mo wngraded from 6 -- just to let me know lik 7 going on. 8 And back when, a uw oO) @ SDNY_00007960 EFTA_00001084 EFTA00135433

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WwW 66 suicide watch to psychological observation. Um, I might’ve called my boss to let him know that, hey, he’s been downgraded off of suicide watch. But I probably would’ ve Okay. Did you recall pecifically about that -- hey, we moved him from suicide watch down to -- SDNY_00007961 EFTA_00001085 EFTA00135434

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wo o Oo notifying, hey, he’s coming off watch. Special Housing Unit. Um-hum. And he’s Other than your Regional Director, did you notify ar dy else? coming off, -- talk about it? s) is] Nh N Nh S) co wo WwW nN that, you told, nat don’t recall meeting know, he’s during that was? when the meeting was, but I just told them, hey, he needs to have a cellmate. This is his cellmate Cellmate at all times And, you put it out to your SDNY_00007963 EFTA_00001087 EFTA00135436

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wo To the departments and your areas of responsibility on that’s how he was going to be housed. Wardens were in there, whoever was acting, the Captain because that sp oO cifically falls under his area. told him specifically he needs to be housed alone. I informed his Lieutenant, you know, wu 5 o .) i 7) offices and basically on each shift, just be mindful, you know, of making rounds and just not for him, just for MS. a : And what’s the Captain’s Um-hum. Did you tell Captain Epstein w moved back to Maem Oeeh. We hada meeting, and I said, hey, this was going fea) io SDNY_00007964 EFTA_00001088 EFTA00135437

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10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 to be the plan that Reyes was going to be moved in with him. He was going to have a cellmate, and that was the protocol we were going to follow. MS. a: Did | confirm that he would tell his Lieutenants, or his -- Mia Ce confirmed. I followed up and asked him, did you put it out to the Lieutenants and staff working, and he told me yes. MS. a: And was that before Epstein, his confirmation, did that come before Epstein was moved back to the SHU, or around the first day he was in the SHU? Maem Oo before. I had the conversation with him, and then I followed up afterwards. and said, “Hey, did you disseminate the information?” And he said, “Everything was disseminated.” But it wasn’t just a one-day thing. It was a constant, I told him, a constant follow up, you know? Make sure that, you know, these protocols are being followed. MS. a : How many times do you recall telling Captain | that, between 70 SDNY_00007965 EFTA_00001089 EFTA00135438

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ow oO ~—] when Epstein went back to the SHU -- Um-hum. -- and then his suicide? I don’t recall the number of times, but it was just a conversation constantly reminding that let’s be vigilant on just not him, but everybody in the Special Housing Unit. Could you estimate daily? I wouldn’t say daily. I would say, I don’t have an,actual number. I don’t want to say an actual number, but you know, if I did, encounter, or I made rounds in the unit, Ipwould, you know, tell staff up there, you know, be vigilant with your protocol. So, I don't know the specific amount of time. I make my rounds once a week at a minimum, but, you know, sometimes it’s more. Sometimes it’s less. MR. a : When it comes to the ability, so you specifically go back to, what you said earlier about Reyes. Right. SDNY_00007966 EFTA_00001090 EFTA00135439

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wo is] MR. ae : You came up with three Right. MR. a : -- roommates for him, and with that did you brief that up the chain for approval, or where did that go that list? MPLOY 22 I sent it to, I made my boss I sent it,to the Chief of Staff in the Director’s office. don't know what I just know about -- MR. a : You briefed it up the Chain. You briefed your suggestions up the MP LOY 22 I went up the chain. MR. a : And there was, were there any objections to that list? I gave the three possibles - SDNY_00007967 EFTA_00001091 EFTA00135440

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wo ~] Wo Um-hum. -- but you know, one I had was a 26-year-old drug dealer I know he, and he was still in there, and I was like although he was separated, I just didn’t -- Um-hum. -- feel that he could, you know, he might, somebody could convince him.to do something. So, he didn’t, I didn’t feel comfortable with him, and I forget the other one. And I think the other one might’ve been somebody that was going to be releasing soon. MR. QR: Okay. So, I took in the factors -- and second when he checked himself in and feeling that he was going to be long-term. SDNY_00007968 EFTA_00001092 EFTA00135441

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ow oO wo uw fon) ~l Yep. cel -- which wasn’t too many. I mean, he had to have a cellmate, and the options weren’t good. MR. QJ: are Housing Unit allowed to assign cellmates un rr aff in the Special arbitrarily or on their own without consulting a Captain, Lieutenant, or yourself (Indiscernible *00:46:26). Yeah, the offices»on their own can, you know, if they have to move somebody around can move somebody around based on they know who can be housed with who. If somebody’s separation, they know who’s a separated from an individual. So, they can do if that. I mean, they’re capable of doing that. MR. ae : Okay. As it relates, talk about Reyes a little bit. Right. He’s no longer in MCC; SDNY_00007969 EFTA_00001093 EFTA00135442

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wo N ips) ine] c= WwW i) Nh Nh nn MR. a : Prior to, you had, you were very active in making sure that Epstein had an appropriate cellmate? What were you, leading up to the last week Friday, what were you aware of Reyes, any court proceedings or any, issues or concerns about him leaving the MC MP LOY 22 I was off on Friday. Okay. So, I didn’t know anything about his court proceedings -- MR. QR: okay. Bate CikesSwhatever. I just know this from after the fact. MR. a : Okay. When it comes to Reyes,» the staff in the Special Housing Unit, how do they get notified of court dates, of the probability of someone being released from the Ww tam facility? How does that proces it) 2) MP LOY 22 They get a call from receiving, it’s called receiving and discharge. Bae here the inmates are ay. SDNY_00007971 EFTA_00001095 EFTA00135444

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17 18 19 20 ~] ~) processed in and processed out. So, they get notification that hey, such and such is leaving, and send him down. MR. QJ: Okay. Does the MCC usually, or sometimes, what’s the, how often or frequently does the MCC get advanced notice of an inmate leaving? EMPLOYEE 22 It depends. If, the inmate’s designated -- -- then we know in advance he’s designated. But usually the Marshalls will come and say, whoever is picking him up, “Hey, we’re taking such and such.” We might get a list ahead of time if somebody’s going to maybe one of the county facilities or some they just come and say, “Hey, we need this guy.” MR. a : Okay. Ultimately Friday, the 98, Reyes is discharged. me ohn. MR. a : Leaving Epstein, actually let’s talk about without a cellmate. Was there a plan in place if that were to happen? We’d review it and say, okay, who can he be with? But he wouldn’t have SDNY_00007972 EFTA_00001096 EFTA00135445

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wo is] been alone. MR. a : Was there anybody in the Special Housing Unit that was already vetted to Epstein? B @ caus o w Q w ' 3 ~ oO im oO is] ct -- like that. tw ut we would’ve gotten somebody in there temporarily. MR. a : When did you first become aware of wy eyes leaving the MCC? MP LOY 22 After the death of Mr. I was told he was gone. MR. ae : When were you first in PLOY 22 I got a call about 6:50 -- that he attempted suicide SDNY_00007973 EFTA_00001097 EFTA00135446

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Nh N N N WwW Nh WwW Lieutenant had called the Captain. The Captain called her, and then she called me. MS. a : And is it Lieutenant i. is that it? Bae Cte utenant | | was the Operations Lieutenant. MR. a : Would you mind, in that conversation, would you mind just telling us about that conversation? She told me Epstein, th o found him in his cell. They had a defibrillator on him and that they were working on him. MP LOY 22 And wh told me that, I SDNY_00007974 EFTA_00001098 EFTA00135447

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10 11 12 13 14 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 80 was like, okay. Where are they at? Is EMS coming in? She said she didn’t have that much information because the Lieutenant was down with Epstein performing life-saving measures. So, that’s when I came in. MR. a : When did you start asking questions about Reyes? On the phone op when you arrived at the facility? | EMPLOYEE 22 [Sion when I got there, I was like, where is the cellmate. MR. a: Um-hum. | EMPLOYEE 22 | I asked the Lieutenant, like where is his cellmate, and Lieutenant said, “I asked the same,question when I went down and, you know, started.” » He asked the officer, “Where’s his, cellmate?” And, you know, just couldn’t, you know, he was disoriented and told me he had said that. So, that’s when we started, you know, started the process of where’s Reyes? MR. a : Just for timeline purposes, about what time did you arrive? Wee CitCogots there about 7:30. MR. a: Okay. Who within the Special Housing Unit would’ve had the ability SDNY_00007975 EFTA_00001099 EFTA00135448

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10 11 12 13 17 18 19 20 81 or who within the Special Housing Unit would’ve had the ability or the authority to back-fill Reyes’ spot as Epstein’s cellmate? Well what would’ve happened, which was instructed to them, was -- Wee Chey would’ve told the Lieutenant or Captain, hey, Reyes, I mean Epstein needs a cellmate. And then we would’ ve started the process of getting him aycellmate. Because when, and this was Epstein’s routine. He got up early in the morning at 8, and he didn’t come back to his cell until about 7:30 at night from his attorney visits. Reyes left,in the morning. So, he doesn’t come back to his cell until in the evening, which on that particular day, he got back about, from what I understand, around 6:45. MR. a : Okay. me Yeah. MR. a : You said that they were instructed to notify that Epstein needed a cellmate? | EMPLOYEE 22 [Sion the Captain, as I told you before -- SONY_00007976 EFTA_00001100 EFTA00135449

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s) is] Nh N Nh S) wo co wo ho WwW co No Um-hum. -- when I told them about And he’s to be having a then cellmate at all times. If he doesn’t need to notify you and you told the Captain - I told the Captain cifically that. to tell his, below him. And the Captain was Y 22 He conveyed it to th om Lieutenant, to the Officers, and disseminated MR. ae : Okay. So, he should’ ve been notified. How should the notification have worked? SDNY_00007977 EFTA_00001101 EFTA00135450

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wo Um-hum. -- and if they say WAB, it’s MR. a : Um-hum. -- and then whatever he had ve gone toyget it. Or if they didn’t, then we would somewhere down the line ship it to wherever his destination MR. a : Is the staff that’s packing up Reyes’ belongings different than the Correctional Officers? been stored up in our Special Housing Unit. And then it would’ve been taken by our Special Housing Unit staff to our receiving and discharge center. MR. ae : Is that staff, when you £", i Ph say “sta 03) that a different responsibility than being a Correctional Officer? SDNY_00007979 EFTA_00001 103 EFTA00135452

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wo oa i=) all of his belongings. Now I don't know if he has some property still in the property room. But whatever was in his cell, they would’ve gathered and taken down. MR. QM: So, the Officer in the Special Housing Unit either would have it) that fu r oO actively participated or observed Reyes’ belongings being packed up and leaving? | EMPLOYEE 22 | Right, and taken. And again, I don't know Reyes went, n I don't know if he went to Um-hum. I, don't know -- terminology with being -- any documentation or reports about when Reyes’ belongings would have been collected from Special Housing Unit? I wouldn’t say belongings, but there would be something showing that he SDNY_00007981 EFTA_00001 105 EFTA00135454

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ow oO o wo was departed the institution. MR. a : Okay. And that would be in the system somewhere? Uh, yeah. They would be receipts, but our receiving and discharge would have that. MR. a : Okay. | EMPLOYEE 22 assets} it will also,show in Sentry, which we use to track on when he was keyed out. MR. a: Okay. So, just to recap. MR. a : The Officers that were working in the,Special Housing Unit would’ ve observed Reyes’,belongings leaving. They were instructed via the Captain through your orders that, if Epstein was to have a cellmate at all times. | EMPLOYEE <2 [as all times. MR. a : And that if that wasn’t, you know, supposed to be briefed up to the Captain and then ultimately to you. Is that correct? Mae ht. The Lieutenant, if the SHU Lieutenant was working, the SHU SDNY_00007982 EFTA_00001106 EFTA00135455

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wo is] Let’s talk a little bit a memorandum to, did that they knew that he left and when he left he told the evening watch guy that Epstein needed a cellmate. MS. dated today? co ve] MPLOY 22 Because when I came in this morning, one of my Lieutenants came in and I asked him, I said, “Hey, have you heard ut what went on on And that’s when he told me he had talked to the SDNY_00007984 EFTA_00001108 EFTA00135457

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Ne] WwW WwW MR. a : Was suggested, was told by Lieutenant || to write this memo? MS. a : I don’t think you need to (Indiscernible *(¢ We’ re understaffed. hiring process right now, but we do have to, know, there’s some posts that we can’t fill. But -- MR. a : Where are you in SDNY_00007986 EFTA_00001110 EFTA00135459

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ow oO ~—] 12 13 14 17 18 19 20 92 staffing? Like what percentage are you, would you say? I believe we’re in our low 80s, high 70s. I'd have to look at the staffing or whatever. MR. a : But somewhere around 80%. Right, but it doesn’t only, that’s not the only issue. The only issue -- MR. a : Sure. -- is like we, let’s say we're staffed to 80%, we’ve got about 30 people that we can’t use. Either they’ re on Workman’s Comp. They’re on AWOL status. You name it, we have it. But the problem is, it takes a while to go through that process to remove an employee. So, we can’t just hire when you have a bunch of people like that on you. So, that’s where we’re at. MR. a : Okay. So, how do you as a Warden and as an institution compensate for being 20% understaffed? Well, I mean everyone has to chip in. I mean, we’re not like the state where you have your Correctional workers and SDNY_00007987 EFTA_OOOO1111 EFTA00135460

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10 11 12 13 14 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 ine) uw 93 you have the contractor workers. Everyone, despite the fact that you might have a different job title, you know how to perform the functions of a Correctional Officer. You have to qualify with weapons every year. You take training on working the housing units, and the majority of them weren’t hired off.the street as into their positions. There might be a few. But the majority were Correctional Officers and then promoted into the different positions. So, we have annual refresher training every year where we train and move on like that. But that’s just mot, it’s not their primary discipline, ,being a Correctional Officer. MR. a: You said all staff are trained as Corrections Officers? The terminology is you’re Correctional workers. MR. a : Okay. YEE 22 So, you know how to perform the functions of a Correctional Officer. MR. a : Okay. | EMPLOYEE <2 [CC beay firearms. You can do SDNY_00007988 EFTA_00001112 EFTA00135461

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wo N ips) ine] c= WwW i) Nh Nh wi oO escorted trips. You could work the housing unit. The only ones who probably are exempt from that are doctors and attorneys and the professionals. But everyone MR. a : And where do the Correctional workers receive this training? Well initially you go to rh oO Ki to Glencoe Um-hum. And then specialized training, we have annual refresher training every year where we re-qualify and go over certain correctional topics. MR. a : Okay. Let me ask you about some specific people. Okay. If you happen to know if they, what their primary duties are. Okay. Michael Thomas? He’s a material handler SDNY_00007989 EFTA_00001113 EFTA00135462

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wo foreman. MR. ae: What is a material handler? They work in the warehouse. So, in the warehouse, it has several functions. You either work in the commissary which the inmates shop for food. He can work inthe laundry where you do that, or you work in the warehouse where you’re processing -- MR. a : Um-hum. -- in stuff. What’s the other one? We also have an outside warehouse where we take deliveries. So, that’s our, and it’s under our,trust, fund department. MR. ae : Okay. And the night of August 9, August 10t -- MR. : -- do you happen to know if Mr. Thompson was working as a Correctional Officer in that primary responsibility? He was one of the Officers in the Special Housing Unit. MR. a: Okay. Do you know how often he works as a Correction, his responsibility as an Officer? SDNY_00007990 EFTA_00001114 EFTA00135463

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ow oO o wo \o i=) What they do is since he works in that department, we might, if we need him during the daytime, assign him over to the department. But he does overtime. He was working overtime then. So, we have a lot of vertime. So, individuals in other departments work the overtime. ve. 2 do voluntarily, or are they told to do that? that something they can if] How does that work? We have a volunteer list for the individuals that don’t work in the department. Okay. If you’re a Correctional Officer, we have what’s called a mandation list. So, if we call around and I say, “Hey, 3) we need somebody to work this”, and everyone turns it down and says, “No, I don’t want to work it”, then we go to the mandation list. be mandated to work a post. wR. MM: Okay. Was he mandated that SDNY_00007991 EFTA_00001115 EFTA00135464

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s) is] Nh N Nh S) wo co wo ho WwW wouldn’t be material han Correctional on the manda I believe he mandated because he dler foreman. wu. Officers or ted list? wasn’t. He work 07) Sa is) You Or during th volunteer for e daytime, I i ne ed SDNY_00007992 EFTA_00001116 EFTA00135465

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Ne] WwW WwW Corrections Officer. Do you happen to or her regular I’m not sure. I,think, it might’ve been (Indiscernible *01:04:52). I’m not sure. I think her regular, I’m not sure. Her regular shift was ening watch, and them she did it. So -- MR. fF >) Okay. And I don't know if that was I do beli wo oo SDNY_00007993 EFTA_00001117 EFTA00135466

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Ww Ww co wo oO Ve} the only one, Michael Thomas, is is mandated to that decision? Lieutenant on shift What are the rules, or any work? SDNY_00007994 EFTA_00001118 EFTA00135467

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s) Nh Nh Nh S) N WwW wo WwW WwW nN said, We don’t have the luxury to turn around and we can’t fill a post. Now I might have a post that might require, you X amount of people, but I have to amount. I mean, depending, you know, I’ve been here, when I first got here was really bad where people MR. a : When you say -- wn MR. ae : -- “four a week”, what i Four overtimes a week. O = b if) = a i) =] le oO is n is] he i 100 SDNY_00007995 EFTA_00001119 EFTA00135468

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s) Nh Nh Nh S) N WwW wo WwW WwW nN 101 MP LOY 22 Another it depends on, you know, number volunteering. So, right now we’re in hiring process where we are getting, you know, bodies to fill in MR. a : So, an eight additional hours? Is there any -- MS. a : Go ahead. : --=,is there any limit on how many 16-hour days a week an emplo work? amount of 16 hours in a day. MR. a : Could you explain that for Okay. You work eight hours. Right. can only work 16 hours y- can’t work 24 hours. SDNY_00007996 EFTA_00001120 EFTA00135469

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102 1 You can’t, you’re not like a fireman where, you limit on the But there’s no,limit,on wo how mez row you 0 hours? 11 No. If somebody wants to, 2 they could. that fron 5 No, not really, because I 16 mean you have some people that sign up for 8 a -- 9 Um-hum. 21 MP LOY 22 -- hey, they might, I don't 23 SDNY_00007997 EFTA_00001121 EFTA00135470

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wo is] iy would. MR. a : You know I had a previous s in a row. We had to take that,22"°¢ day ght. Do you guys have anything unof that th fu Well they have their two ay. oO hh fh you get two days Is it required that they MP LOY 22 Yeah. You take your two days. What you choose to do with those two ays is your business. But we don’t, like if Q someone, it has to b oO an emergency. Let’s SDNY_00007998 EFTA_00001122 EFTA00135471

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s) is] Nh N Nh S) wo co wo ho WwW it’s your Friday. You Friday because Federal have e So, won’t Law an employee can work is five, 104 mandated on a have to most 16-hour days so they have two rey I want to work on my SDNY_00007999 EFTA_00001 123 EFTA00135472

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ow oO o wo uw fon) about the cameras in the facility kay. Talk a little bit Oo Okay. MR. QM: Ss what is your understanding on the general reliability of them? They’re not good. We were just funded to get new cameras installed but, you know, when you’re installing the cameras, there’s a lot you have to do. The building is built in 1975. It’s not like a new building, and we’ve got to go through cinderblock. There’s a lot of things that, you know, are in that block. Asbestos. So, we have to do the wiring. SO, the system is outdated. Um -- MR. a: When you say they’re not, are they not reliable? Is it poor quality in recording? What’s the -- recording, but what that hold the recordings, they’re breaking down. So, sometimes we have where they’re not recording. We have to get it fixed, you know, more along SDNY_00008000 EFTA_00001124 EFTA00135473

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ow oO ~—] wo those li MR. are you working recordin bring it would te the came MR. procedur then the what’s t MR. say that “unrelia MR. you say they go MR. nes. a : How were you aware, how as the Warden made aware of cameras appropriately or any issues with the g devices? The department head would up to me, or the Associate Warden ll me, you know, we were informed th ras aren’t working. a : What is the normal e when the cameras go down? So, if the’cameras go dow contact has to look and determine he problem with the cameras. ae : Okay. How long would y the cameras have been unreliable? What do you mean by irda ble a : I’m sorry, how long wou the cameras have been not working? They work, but periodical down. Bate Cthat’s what I meant by it but they do record. You can, you know, it’s not at ny, ou ld ly , SDNY_00008001 EFTA_00001125 EFTA00135474

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ow oO o wo 107 the quality. Like you go to some places and some agencies where you have that bird v type camera. That’s not what we have. it’s, you can see things, we can do some identifying, but they’re not, you know, and they’re only in certain locations. MS. a : And again, the chain of notification is the staff, the Corrections Officers or Corrections worker notifies the Shift Lieutenant? J EMPLOYEE 22 TS far as with the cameras? MS. a : Yes. If they’re -- It depends on -- MS. a: -- not operating. -- who’s using the cameras and reviewing the cameras. You know, usually our investigative department’s doing it, and they do the check, and if they come in and check and check the camera 7] and say, stuff’s not recording, then they notify the Comp Shop or the facilities manager and say, hey, we have a SDNY_00008002 EFTA_00001126 EFTA00135475

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wo 108 problem. The cameras are not recording. MS. a : So, does SIS have a room where they can see the cameras in the facility? We have a, the camera room is in our communications room behind that area. MS. a : Okay. So, if a camera, if the camera in the SHU was not working == me hue, MS. a : -- someone in that camera room would be able to see that there’s no feed from that particular camera? recording. You can have, you always have the life feed that,you can see what’s going on. typically, and don’t quote me on it, are ona two-week or less timeline. So, what it is is, if it gets to that two-week period, the memory gets full, then it starts re-recording over again. So, that’s how most camera systems work. MS. a : But if for instance a camera in the SHU was down -- SDNY_00008003 EFTA_00001127 EFTA00135476

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wo screen to say, hey, there told 109 someone in that camera would see that the camera was down. the SIS would check and determine hey the recordings are not down ight, or even the screen. Um-hum. If we didn’t have a visual wo problems with the And did that happen with anyone notified that it Well, and this is what I was after the fact, the Lieutenant I believe conveyed that to the Communication Offic er that tt a problem with the cameras. MS. a : When did she know about SDNY_00008004 EFTA_00001128 EFTA00135477

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s) is] Nh N wo ee ho WwW 110 I believe she told me she that she made a Um -— And that would be an oral I’m not sure. did say she notified MR. a : Are you made aware of those notifications as well that the cam i) ra n are down and not working? MPLOYER 22 It would depend. Y 22 k on how bad it was. If it was something that you can run out and fix immediately, you know, it would hey, you know, we can fix it. MR. a : And were you notified of SDNY_00008005 EFTA_00001129 EFTA00135478

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s) Nh Nh Nh S) N WwW wo WwW WwW nN 111 MP LOY 22 I was told on Saturday. yeah -- the fact I was told. That the cameras weren’t I’m sorry, just who Lieutenant | told me. MR. a : Lieuten about, let’s talk about phone calls in the S Talking U. MPLOYEE 22 Um-hum. MR. a : What are the regulations or policies about giving inma unreported phone calls? During the intake screening, you can come in and in certain SHU situations, SDNY_00008006 EFTA_00001130 EFTA00135479

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ow oO ~—] wo opportunity. MR. ae: How does the inmate get a telephone account set up? Typically he has to go out of SHU into a housing unit and go through the voice recognition process in order to get set up for it. You can’t do it in the Special Housing Unit. MR. a : And we said earlier that Mr. Epstein was never left, was always in Special Housing Unit. Was always\in the Special Did he have an opportunity to get a telephone account set up? EMPLOYEE 22 The problem with Mr. Epstein was he was.in the attorney room all day. MR. a : Okay. | EMPLOYEE 22 [opel beginning to end, and that’s something that you do during the daytime because our communications people are there. So, we did, and then again, he had to be in an assigned unit to get that. It’s just to have it set up. MR. QJ: Okay. Was Mr. Epstein SDNY_00008007 EFTA_00001131 EFTA00135480

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wo is] 113 allowed phone calls? Was he what? Was Mr. Epstein allowed Yeah. His initial one, he didn’t get his initial one, so we had to give him a call, his initial call when he came in. Then while you’re in the ecial Housing Unit, you’re entitled,to one call he was entitled to a 30 day phone call. monitored, recorded? How do those? oO those normally Typically in his case, that he didn’t, have his monitor set up, the unit Manager stood there and listened to the call. MS. ae : And would that be the Um -- ke! MR. QJ: No. «It was the unit SDNY_00008008 EFTA_00001 132 EFTA00135481

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Ww have been 1 call? MP LOY 22 Right, and from what I understand, he was calls recorded anywher was made. that to get the phone number, is the length of the call -- But in terms of or a monitoring, 114 SDNY_00008009 EFTA_00001133 EFTA00135482

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Nh N ho WwW We didn’t, because again, he wasn’t set up. how many phone calls Mr. I’m not aware how many made. But I don’t, I know he made MP LOY 22 -- that day and I’m aware of the initial one, but I don’t believe he made that many, because I do believe I saw a correspondence that his, attorney made to our attorney about,him getting a phone call. MR. a: Let’s go over real quick (Indiscernible *01:18:13). vered this a little SDNY_00008010 EFTA_00001 134 EFTA00135483

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s) is] Nh N Nh N wo co wo ho WwW 116 earlier. I just wanted to go over it again. n were you first notified of Mr. Epstein i) suicide, or medical, or situation? About 6:45 -- Who did you notify? I immediately called my boss tell him that I was on my way’ to the institution. MR. a : Did you notify anybo Y 22 No. I just, I let him know, get dressed, get to the institution. the institution, did you spea When you arrived at When I got there, I saw obviously the Lieutenant. Um -- MR. QM: which -- SDNY_00008011 EFTA_00001135 EFTA00135484

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10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 MS. a : Lieutenant |g {| EMPLOYEE 22 | Uh, Lieutenant | | when he came in and my first, you know, any time you have a suicide attempt, you want to make sure your staff are all right and how they’re doing. So, I went to, you know, to check on him to kind of get a debrief on what was going on. He kind of debriefed me on the situation. Um —-- MR. a : What did Lieutenant | | tell you? | EMPLOYEE 22 [as asked him, so I basically told him what happened, and he said, he talked to Officer Noel and she said we didn’t do the 3 o’clock count or the 5 o’clock count. And then he said he talked to Noel, Officer Noel, and she said, no he talked to Officer Thomas and that Officer Thomas said, “I messed up. We messed up.” Something about it’s not her fault. But he said he was just talking way off the line. Let me back-track a little. I did make one more call, because I couldn’t get in contact with Lieutenant i. I called up to the Special Housing Unit. SDNY_00008012 EFTA_00001136 EFTA00135485

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10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 MR. a : Okay. Weer fd I believe Ms. Noel picked up the phone, and I asked her, you know, what was going. And she told me what was going on. But she really couldn’t talk. So, then I came, when I got to the institution, I saw «her and I said, “Hey, are you all right? Is everything fine.” And she was like, okay. So, I had somebody from our crisis, support team that was there talk to her to make sure that she was all right, and then I went to try to find Thomas. She said Thomas had left. So, I said, okay, “Left where? Where did he go?” They said,,you,know, “He went home. He was distraught.” So, then I get another call saying Thomas was outside, and that he told me, “I’m not answeping any questions from you. I want my union”, I said Thomas, “I’m not concerned about what happened. I’m concerned about your well- being. Make sure you’re all right. You've been through a traumatic experience”, and he just kept talking. So, there was a staff member out there. I SDNY_00008013 EFTA_00001137 EFTA00135486

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10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 said, try to find him if he’s outside. So, they went outside and they said, you know, he was gone. I didn’t see Ms. Noel, but I told them to get a memorandum from her on what happened. They told me said she wasn’t feeling well and she had to talk to her Union rep. So, and I said, “You know what, let them go. We'll get back with them or somebody will get back with them.” And they left.» And we just started the process of collecting and preserving. MS. a : Have Noel or Thomas been in to work singe then? P EMPLOYEE <2 | No. Noel, I sent some support staff on Sunday to go talk to them. Today, the .mother of Thomas’ child, she works at the»institution but they’re not together, Said, “Hey, he was with her all weekend but she can’t get in contact with him.” I sent her and a Lieutenant to go over to his house to find out if he’s okay. He called me a little irate saying, “You know, you’re sending people to my house. You know, I was sleeping.” I said, “I’m checking on your well-being”, SDNY_00008014 EFTA_00001138 EFTA00135487

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ow oO o wo you know. And then I didn’t know, and I asked him, I said, “Did you call in for work today?” And he said, “Yes, I did.” And he said, “He was sleeping and he was tired.” And I said, “Well I’m just checking on your well-being and just seeing how you are”, and I left it at that. That was this morning? That was this morning. MS. a : So, he basically, called in sick today? He called in sick today. Monday and Tuesday. Okay. OYEE 2 I’m going to assign both of them with no inmate contact, so they’re going to be away.from inmates and assigned on the lo o wo outside (Indiscernible *01:2 ). And then Lieutenant i. And then that’s basically what Lieutenant | | told me, and I told him, “Write a memorandum on what was said”, and he wrote the memorandum and he submitted it. MS. a : Has he been in to work since Saturday? SDNY_00008015 EFTA_00001139 EFTA00135488

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10 11 12 13 17 18 19 20 Yes, he did. Actually he stayed there late on Saturday. He basically worked a double, and then he came back and worked during the day on it. So, he hasn’t taken any time off. Is he there now? He’s there. He’s there today, so he’s working here. And -- Oh, and I do havevan addition. And I did ask him, you know, when he got there what happened, and he says, he doesn’t know what the condition was because when Thomas called for the emergency medical, he opened the door and took him down himself and started life-saving measures. MS. a: So, Epstein was hanging from the door? | | aa We don’t know what he was doing because Thomas was the first one there, and when responding staff came, he was already there doing compressions and life-saving measures. So, I definitively can’t say where, was he hanging? What position he was or not because nobody knows when they responded, so. SDNY_00008016 EFTA_00001140 EFTA00135489

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10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 122 MR. a : What is the policy regarding if an Officer or staff member sees an inmate in that situation? Okay. And I won’t want to quote this is a policy thing, but you call for assistance and you wait for assistance to come because you don’t know if that’s a ploy. So, if you go in there as one person, and you, know, when somebody’s hanging, that’s dead. That is dead weight. So, you go in there, you don’t know if it’s a ploy. So, you go in there and get overpowered, guess) what? Now that individual has the cell door keys for every key on that range, and that,could be a recipe for disaster. So, it might sound inhumane that, you know, we have to wait because the individual on the grill,can’t come down range either because if they get overpowered, guess what, we’ve lost a whole unit. And that’s the most secure unit in the institution. So, she has to stay outside with the keys on the grill because there are two different keys. They don’t mix. And we wait for responding staff to come in and perform, you SDNY_00008017 EFTA_00001141 EFTA00135490

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N WwW Nh WwW 124 midnight tenant. She worked, apparently she So, she’ll be back tonight. MS. a : Okay. Do you want to step MS. a : Unless you have anything (Indiscernible *01:27:13). i} i} P- Fh H aQ wu 5 c 3 ue] o w ie] fu MR. a : Specifically one-on-one interactions with » back to, SDNY_00008019 EFTA_00001143 EFTA00135492

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ow oO ~—] wo 10 12 13 14 Let’s see, I had one, I saw him by the attorney visit, small conversation. Another one I saw him when I was making rounds on the unit when he had first gotten into the cell with Reyes. He was going into the shower. I asked him, “How was everything going.” He said, “I’m good. I’m fine.” And then Reyes, I said, “How’s he doing?” Reyes was like, “I want to go back toa unit.” So, you know, was just that type of conversation while making rounds. MR. a : Okay. Thank you. mE Okay. MR. ae : And did you want just step outside? Huh? Do you mind if we just take a No, I have no problem. MR. QJ: st is 12: pausing the interview. We're Nh lw We’re resuming the interview at this time. It is 12:29 in the afternoon. MS. a: Okay. So, the first SDNY_00008020 EFTA_00001 144 EFTA00135493

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s) is] Nh N Nh S) wo co wo ho WwW 126 question is, I just want to make sure we have Okay. The Lieutenant or the Captain that you told that Epstein yY 22 Well, it was Captain And, I know probably already doing this, but we just to make sure you’ re preserving all of the any communications direction, it was given verbally in a meeting. I didn’t send emails was everyone in the But for instance, SDNY_00008021 EFTA_00001145 EFTA00135494

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is] Nh No S) N WwW Nh WwW 127 the email that you sent listing here are the MR. a : I’m sure’ this will inevitably happen, and it’s a report for this. Has that already been drafted? Is that a Will there be an incident om report regarding the discovery of Jeffr Epstein 7) body? It’s called a report of incident, a 583. So, we did that SDNY_00008022 EFTA_00001146 EFTA00135495

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wo N ips) ine] c= WwW i) Nh Nh what happened, the times -- -- and moving forward with MR. QM: Do ~you know who drafted The SIS Lieutenant does it. Okay. Mad then [I review it because it’s ultimately sent from me. It’s @ report of incident -- Um-hum. -- to our central office. ay. Just for terminology to make And it’s just a brief sure statement you know, he made rounds. Um-hum. was unresponsi Life- saving measures were initiated. Taken to the outside hospital and then he was pronounced deceased at that time. And then we just move SDNY_00008023 EFTA_00001147 EFTA00135496

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ow oO ~—] wo 129 Just a couple of more -- Um-hum. -- housekeeping stuff just to say, have you had any contact with the press regarding this? No, I have not. MR. a : Has any press contacted you directly? Bae Oo, 2they have not. MR. a : Have you directed any staff to destroy anything? ns have you given the staff in terms of preserving things? So, initially when we came, when I got in, I told the Captain, get all the log books up there, the rounds, anything pertaining to get it and anything we can think of that might be needed. And it’s given to the SIS. It’s in the SIS office with the SIS Lieutenant. So, told them to preserve it, and whoever needed it, I know the IG has come by. They’ve taken some stuff. But basically preserve everything that might be needed to be SDNY_00008024 EFTA_00001148 EFTA00135497

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wo co wo looking so I don on 1) oO =] =] oO cide? missing Since, his body was from I 't know what ified of body was di ny in yo Are you aware of any his cell? Are you aware hing peculiar occurring since his ou mean missing from his Yes. didn’t observe the cell, ‘s in -- Were you ever notified of scovered, have you peculiarities or ar ur mind as odd? s far as what would’ve been SDNY_00008025 EFTA_00001149 EFTA00135498

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N WwW Nh WwW ) No Nh N Ns in his cell, or? MR. a : Anything in general as it MP LOY 22 Not that I can think of. I mean, it’s just documents that we’re still trying to gather -- -- and locate, but -- MR. a : It’s nothing odd because don't know what happ a H Um-hum. nsidered you aware of, him having any contraband in his 11? i) EMP LOY 22 Contraband? Anything -- Well -- suppo s in his cell? he would’ve SDNY_00008026 EFTA_00001150 EFTA00135499

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ow oO wo No ine) ul an incident report. And the only incident report he had was, I guess it was the cloth that was found on the initial one, but then our Disciplinary Hearing Officer concluded that we couldn’t’ sustain any charges on him because it was inconclusive -- -- with it, but that’s -- Okay. And were you aware of him having any enemies or anything, or being No. I mean no one’s came to me specifically saying, you know, “He’s my enemy”, or all that, so I don’t, you know. MR. a : Was he not to be, not to be celled with anybody because of any problems that he would have, or -- Let me rephrase that a little. Were you aware of any other inmates who had targeted him specifically? SDNY_00008027 EFTA_00001151 EFTA00135500

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= ioe) La Ne] WwW Um-hum. The log books -- Um-hum. wo 2 MS. a : -- who’s doing the 20. write the time th end and then 21 initial it? SDNY_00008028 EFTA_00001152 EFTA00135501

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s) is] Nh N Nh S) wo co wo ho WwW simple fact that, coming, I had them take it and preserv So, it wa 7) s part of that’s probably why it up to 8 o’clock. w This is not complete for the know, with the emergency e Got it. ause as soon asS,I came in, I told the Lieutenant grab the 30-minute believe, and I’m not And is a signature or sure, but if it was the morning watch Lieutenant, it would be Lieut us. i: s all the H rt ~~ I 3 = rt a nv] rt A Great. That’s it. The 07) SDNY_00008029 EFTA_00001 153 EFTA00135502

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10 11 12 13 18 19 20 time is now 12:35. Warden, we really appreciate your time. me (Okay. MR. a: And the interview is completed, oh actually before we do that. Is there anything that you would like to tell<us? Any statements that you would like to make? Anything you think we should know about the incident in general? Just wanted to give you an opportunity if there’s anything that you think we should know that we haven’t discussed. I can’t think of anything else. But I mean, as it comes along, I’1l pass it on to the IG. Anything I get or any informations MR. a : Thank you. Okay. 135 SDNY_00008030 EFTA_00001154 EFTA00135503

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La Ability - 71:23, 80:25, 81:2 Able - 15:13, 17:19, 108:10 Above - 72:14 Accordingly - 34:18 Account - 111:23, 112:3, 112:15 Accountability - 40: 20 Accurate - 128:17 Act - 49:15 Acting - 44:18, 57:20, 57:22, 64:25, 65:2, 69:7, 88:15 Action - 29:21 Active - 65:7, 76:3 Actively - 86:7 Actual - 49:15, 71:12, 71:13 Addition - 121:11 Advance - 77:11 Advanced - 77:6 Affairs - 5:23 Affirm - 4:21, 4:23 Afforded - 111:25 Afternoon - 125:24 Age - 73:15 Agencies - 107:2 Agent - 3:10, 3:12, 5:19 Agents - 15:24 Agree - 33:25 Agreed - 14:3 Ahead - 14:20, 77:15, 101:12 Allowed - 56:12, 74:6, 113:1, 113:3 Alone - 69:12, 78:1 Alyssa - 31:7 Amount - 19:16, 71:18, 100:9, 100:14, 101:17, 104:3 + 123:24, 123:25, 134:20, 134:21 Annotate - 37:9 Annual - 35:3, 35:6, 93:12, 94:15 Anticipate - 78:6 Antonio - 3:12 Anyway - 41:10 Anywhere - 114:10 Apnea - 56:7 Apologize - 18:20, 32:4 Apostrophe - 3:17 Apparently - 124:3 Appreciate - 91:14, 135:2 Appropriate - 11:15 , 15:10, 76:4 Appropriately - 106 4 Approval - 47:4, 72:6 Arbitrarily - 74:7 Area - 35:19, 45:20, 69:8, 108:5 Areas - 69:2 Aren't - 106:9 Arrangements - 20: 24 Arresting - 15:24 Arrival - 10:12, 21:19 Arrive - 20:20, 24:12, 80:22 Arrived - 7:1, 7:2, 7:5, 8:21, 13:23, 13:25, 16:16, 21:11, 24:2, 80:8, 116:20 Arrives - 7:19 Asbestos - 105:14 Aspects - 41:14 Assessed - 21:22, 21:23 Assign - 74:6, 96:3, 120:15 Assigned - 31:17, 98:21, 112:23, 120:17 Assistance - 34:16, 122:6 Assistant - 64:23 Assisting - 18:16 Associate - 5:21, 11:12, 14:14, 23:23, 46:24, 49:24, 51:11, 57:2, 57:3, 69:6, 79:4, 106:7 Assurances - 3:24 Attack - 49:12 Attempt - 48:24, 48:25, 49:18, 50:8, 52:19, 53:18, 54:6, 54:13, 56:23, 63:18, 117:4 Attempted - 78:25 Attempts - 48:19 Attends - 51:9 Attorney - 4:5, 4:6, 4:8, 18:16, 20:7, 20:13, 20:15, 55:24, 81:14, 112:17, 115:13, 115:14, 125:3 Attorneys - 20:11, 94:3 Attorney's - 15:24 August - 3:1, 55:5, 90:17, 95:16 Authority - 33:8, 81:2 Authorizes - 30:19 Automatically - 63: 9 AW - 54:2, 57:20, 57:24 AWOL - 92:13 Bank - 10:24 Based - 73:23, 74:12 Basic - 21:9 Basics - 58:1 Basis - 4:1, 11:2 Bearing - 24:19 Became - 5:11 Become - 30:11, 30:17, 30:18, 78:10 Becomes - 63:2 Behavior - 45:7 Behind - 7:3, 108:5 Belongings - 75:9, 83:19, 84:3, 84:15, 85:24, 86:1, 86:8, 86:18, 86:22, 86:24, 87:15 Below - 44:5, 82:17 Bird - 107:2 Bit - 5:10, 6:15, 6:25, 74:21, 89:2, 105:2, 124:22 Block - 105:14 Bloods - 16:4 Bodies - 101:7 Body - 127:19, 130:15, 130:22 Bomb - 26:12 Bombs - 17:21 Book - 133:7 Books - 129:17, 130:5, 133:4 BOP - 3:3, 5:11, 12:14, 20:19, 36:3, 36:7, 64:12 Boss - 64:8, 66:6, 66:22, 72:7, 116:8 Both - 49:20, 120:15 Breaking - 105:23 Brief - 51:18, 72:5, 127:25, 128:17 Briefed - 19:11, 46:9, 46:10, 53:4, 72:18, 72:19, 87:21 Brought - 8:7, 8:10, 8:17, 18:2, 50:6 Building - 105:10, 105:11 Built - 105:11 Bullock - 114:1, 114:2, 114:5 Bunch - 17:18, 92:18 Bunkie - 90:3 Bureau - 3:15 Business - 10:2, 100:4, 103:24 a | Calendar - 54:23 Called - 11:9, 54:11, 54:13, 57:6, 64:2, 64:8, 66:5, 76:23, 79:11, 79:12, 83:3, 96:16, 116:8, 117:24, 119:22, 120:10, 120:12, 121:14, 127:20 Calling - 65:14, 66:11 Calls - 111:15, 111:19, 113:1, 113:4, 114:10, 115:4 Camera - 34:12, 34:21, 107:3, 108:4, 108:6, 108:7, 108:9, 108:11, 108:22, 108:25, 109:2, 109:3, 109:10, 109:12 Cameras - 105:3, 105:8, 105:9, 106:3, 106:9, 106:11, 106:12, 106:14, 106:16, 106:20, 107:13, 107:17, 107:18, 107:23, 108:1, 108:3, 109:18, 110:14, 111:9 Can't - 63:1, 75:11, 91:23, 92:12, 92:17, 100:7, 101:16, 101:25, 102:1, 104:18, 112:7, 119:20, 121:23, 122:18, 135:12 Cap - 99:25 Capable - 74:18 Captains - 39:22 Captain's - 69:16 Care - 46:6, 48:12, 58:4, 73:21 Career - 5:10 Carry - 93:25 Case - 11:2, 47:8, 48:6, 113:17 Celled - 132:20 Cellmates - 15:17, 74:6 Cellphone - 51:1 Cells - 27:10, 27:11 Center - 34:17, 34:19, 84:22 Central - 128:13 Certain - 15:21, 21:24, 24:6, 56:1, 94:17, 107:7, 111:21 Chain - 12:14, 39:2, 52:22, 72:5, 72:19, 72:20, 72:21, 83:17, 88:4, 107:9 Change - 58:17, 65:23 Charge - 13:1 Charges - 132:7 Check - 13:14, 55:1, 107:22, 107:23, 109:4, 117:6 Checked - 56:13, 73:18 Checking - 119:25, 120:5 Checks - 133:12, 134:12 Chief - 5:22, 28:6, 29:20, 31:5, 31:25, 61:12, 72:11 Child - 119:17 Chip - 92:24 Choose - 103:23 Cinderblock - 105:1 2 Circle - 134:14 Citation - 50:23 Clarification - 32:10 Clarify - 43:21, 63:14, 97:9 Clarifying - 32:7 Clinical - 31:22, 31:24, 32:2 Closely - 47:12 Cloth - 26:9, 26:10, 132:4 Clothing - 45:6 Clyde - 98:25, 99:1 CMC - 11:11 Collected - 86:23 Collecting - 119:11 Comes - 24:23, 28:25, 29:7, 29:8, 38:9, 43:14, 47:13, 61:4, 71:22, 76:17, 135:13 SDNY_00008032 EFTA_00001156 EFTA00135505

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Comfortable - 73:1 0 Coming - 7:7, 7:25, 10:22, 20:14, 40:15, 46:22, 59:3, 68:1, 68:8, 80:2, 100:10, 134:5 Command - 12:14 Commissary - 95:6 Commit - 41:6 Commitment - 9:8 Communication - 1 1:22, 14:10, 109:16 Communications - 108:5, 112:21, 126:15 Comp - 92:13, 107:24 Companion - 26:25, 27:7, 27:10, 30:13, 30:14, 30:18, 30:20, 30:25, 31:3, 34:9, 45:17, 45:20 Compensate - 92:2 1 Complain - 20:12 Complete - 134:3 Completed - 135:5 Compressions - 12 1:22 Concerned - 118:20 , 118:21 Concerns - 17:13, 21:12, 23:6, 76:9 Concluded - 132:6 Conclusion - 49:14, 62:7 Condition - 121:13 Conditions - 55:22, 60:10, 75:7 Confinement - 60:1 0 Confirm - 9:25, 70:5 Confirmation - 70:1 2 Confirmed - 70:7 Conjunction - 31:1 3, 104:5 Consideration - 10: 22, 73:21 Considerations - 1 7:13, 20:24 Considered - 6:12, 131:15 Constant - 70:21 Constantly - 71:6 Consult - 29:20, 47:5 Consulted - 50:2 Consulting - 46:20, 74:7 Contact - 19:17, 19:19, 36:16, 52:19, 57:19, 106:13, 117:24, 119:20, 120:16, 129:4 Contacted - 79:3, 129:7 Contraband - 131:1 6, 131:18 Contractor - 93:1 Control - 34:17, 34:19 Conversation - 33: 16, 55:23, 70:16, 71:5, 79:18, 79:19, 125:3, 125:12, 126:21 Conversations - 72 12 Convey - 57:24 Conveyed - 53:4, 53:15, 82:18, 109:16 Convince - 73:8 Cooperating - 61:1 0 Coordinator - 28:5 Cope - 15:13 Coping - 35:13 Correction - 95:24 Correctional - 5:17, 62:14, 84:16, 84:25, 85:2, 92:25, 93:4, 93:9, 93:15, 93:20, 93:23, 94:7, 94:17, 95:19, 96:15, 97:10, 97:13, 97:22, 97:25 Corrections - 93:18 , 98:2, 98:4, 99:18, 107:10, 107:11, 133:10 Correctly - 63:17 Correspondence - 115:13, 115:17 Couldn't - 61:9, 80:17, 117:23, 118:5 Couldn't’ - 132:7 Count - 117:14, 117:15 County - 77:16 Couple - 13:23, 129:1 Course - 89:8 Courses - 30:17 Court - 75:17, 76:8, 76:13, 76:19, 86:13 Cover - 35:11 Covered - 20:23, 116:25 Covers - 26:5 Criminal - 6:12, 50:20 Crisis - 118:9 Currently - 4:9 Custody - 8:5, 75:6 a Daily - 37:6, 38:7, 38:10, 57:5, 71:9, 71:11, 102:5 ME - 69:18, 69:19, 69:22, 70:5, 70:25, 98:23, 123:6, 123:15, 126:8, 126:9 Database - 114:25 Date - 7:5, 12:10, 13:22, 50:25 Dated - 89:20, 90:16, 133:7 Dates - 76:19 HM - 3:10, 3:17 Davis - 99:7 Days - 65:19, 67:7, 101:14, 102:9, 103:8, 103:14, 103:16, 103:21, 103:23, 103:24, 104:5, 104:7, 104:9, 104:12, 104:14, 104:15, 113:11, 120:13, 124:11 Daytime - 96:3, 97:19, 112:20 DC - 5:22 Dead - 122:9, 122:10 Dealer - 73:3 Death - 78:12, 78:21 Debate - 34:1 Debrief - 117:7 Debriefed - 117:8 Deceased - 128:24 Decide - 63:13 Decides - 46:22 Decision - 29:14, 29:19, 34:1, 34:2, 59:4, 99:19 Decisions - 46:3 Deemed - 25:9 Defibrillator - 79:22 Definitively - 121:2 3 Deliveries - 95:13 Demisa - 99:9, 99:15 Denied - 49:4, 49:5 Departed - 87:1 Departments - 39:1 0, 69:1, 96:6 Department's - 107: 21 Describe - 44:11 Designated - 77:9, 77:12 Despite - 93:2 Destination - 84:12 Destroy - 129:11 Determinate - 45:23 Determination - 11: 20, 31:19, 46:23 Determine - 10:25, 11:2, 11:24, 17:16, 18:2, 33:17, 48:13, 49:14, 53:13, 106:13, 109:5, 114:15 Determined - 3:5 Determines - 32:14 Determining - 29:2 1, 31:10 Devices - 106:5 Dictate - 15:22 Dictated - 19:13, 35:25 Dictates - 10:10, 36:1 Difference - 45:8 Different - 28:13, 39:9, 44:21, 84:15, 84:24, 85:16, 93:3, 93:10, 122:23 Differently - 19:21 Directed - 129:10 Direction - 63:10, 126:18 Directions - 15:2, 16:7, 16:17, 57:24, 129:13 Directly - 34:17, 40:15, 129:8 Director - 12:11, 12:13, 12:19, 13:5, 19:7, 19:11, 31:23, 32:2, 52:25, 57:16, 57:18, 57:19, 57:23, 62:5, 63:24, 64:3, 67:2, 67:4, 68:7 Director's - 61:12, 72:11 Disaster - 122:15 Discharge - 76:23, 84:22, 85:5, 87:5 Discharged - 11:7, 77:19 Disciplinary - 50:23 , 132:6 Discipline - 93:15 Discovered - 130:1 5, 130:22 Discovery - 127:18 Discussing - 56:15 Discussions - 60:8 Dismissed - 83:1 Disoriented - 80:18 Disseminate - 40:7, 70:17 Disseminated - 23: 9, 38:16, 70:19, 82:19 Distraught - 118:16 District - 18:17 Divulged - 23:15 - 46:3, 46:21, 99:16, 109:19, 109:21, 111:13 Doctors - 94:3 Documentation - 3 6:11, 36:25, 86:21 Documenting - 37: 3 Documents - 131:5 Doesn't - 47:1, 81:15, 82:9, 83:18, 88:4, 92:7, 121:13, 134:7 Door - 83:25, 121:15, 121:18, 122:14 Double - 121:3 Downgrade - 66:18 Downgraded - 58:1 0, 65:25, 66:7 Bl - 33:5, 33:6, 46:19, 50:1, 53:21, 58:21, 59:7, 60:9, 99:15 Drafted - 127:14, 128:5 Dressed - 116:19 Dropped - 7:10, 7:18, 8:8, 10:3 Drug - 51:2, 73:3 DST - 75:21 Dual - 12:6 Duties - 94:22 Duty - 51:18, 51:24, §2:6, 52:8, 52:10, 52:20, 52:21, 88:19, 102:2 Dvrs - 105:20 es Each - 12:18, 69:13 Earlier - 19:5, 21:1, 30:8, 43:21, 71:24, 112:9, 116:1 Early - 81:12, 124:4 Eight - 101:9, SDNY_00008033 EFTA_00001157 EFTA00135506

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101:10, 101:20 Eligible - 30:18 Email - 13:11, 13:14, 37:21, 38:2, 38:4, 38:18, 39:7, 39:13, 39:23, 41:16, 42:6, 42:9, 61:11, 61:12, 127:1 Emailed - 61:17 Emails - 126:14, 126:20 Emergency - 103:2 5, 121:14, 134:4 MB - 32:22 Employee - 92:16, 101:14, 104:8 Employees - 3:24, 35:9 Employer - 3:9 EMS - 80:1 Encounter - 71:14 Endangering - 123: 2 Enemies - 132:12 Enemy - 132:18 Ensure - 114:10 Enters - 11:6 Entitled - 113:10, 113:13 Epstein's - 19:23, 73:22, 81:3, 81:11, 115:4, 116:2, 127:19 Erratic - 44:19 Escorted - 94:1 Estimate - 71:9 Eval - 43:12, 43:16, 43:19, 45:1 Evaluate - 9:10, 10:14, 17:16, 25:6, 28:12 Evaluated - 27:23, 45:13 Evaluates - 27:22, 29:7 Evaluating - 12:2, 32:18, 48:12 Evaluation - 15:15, 19:4, 45:17, 46:16 Evening - 41:21, 81:16, 89:17, 98:13 Everybody ~ 38:19, 69:15, 71:7 Everybody's - 11:1 4 Everyone - 3:7, §1:14, 92:23, 93:1, 94:4, 94:11, 96:18, 126:23 Everything - 28:20, 70:18, 118:8, 125:7, 129:25 Ex - 17:22 Example - 16:3, 16:4, 23:5, 44:12 Exams - 56:1, 56:4 Exceed - 101:16 Exec - 14:12, 14:15, 68:12 Exempt - 94:2 Exhibits - 25:18 Expectation - 39:20 , 68:15 Expectations - 82:3 Experience - 118:2 3 Explain - 25:21, 44:24, 101:18 Extra - 55:1, 102:25 a Facilities - 77:16, 107:25 Facility - 7:19, 75:2, 76:21, 80:8, 105:3, 108:3 Factors - 10:21, 73:14 Failure - 6:11 Falls - 23:11, 69:8 Far - 10:1, 20:25, 23:1, 23:19, 28:13, 49:14, 66:19, 107:13, 130:25 Fault - 117:20 FBI - 3:13 Federal - 3:15, 104:2 Feed - 108:10, 108:12, 108:14 Feel - 46:14, 73:7, 73:9 Feeling - 73:18, 119:6 Felt - 59:8 FEMALE - 18:3, 18:5 Fight - 52:16 Figure - 17:4 Figured - 61:10 Figuring - 60:17 Files - 60:2 Fill - 36:11, 81:2, 91:24, 97:20, 100:7, 101:7 Filled - 37:12, 133:9 Financial - 102:22 Find - 7:11, 8:11, 15:5, 23:2, 118:12, 119:1, 119:21 Fine - 32:6, 56:14, 118:8, 125:8 Firearms - 93:25 Fireman - 102:1 Fitting - 56:11 Five - 12:15, 104:8 Fix - 110:20, 110:21 Fixed - 105:25 Floor - 25:23, 25:24, 42:19, 58:14, 59:25 Follow - 7:15, 70:4, 70:21 Followed - 48:25, 54:14, 70:7, 70:16, 70:23 Following - 3:2, 47:11, 48:5, 54:17, 63:16 Food - 95:7 Foreman - 95:1, 97:4 Forensic - 28:14 Forget - 49:13, 73:10 Form - 3:23, 4:2, 11:10, 30:1, 30:6 Formal - 8:6 Forms - 37:12, 37:15, 37:18 Forward - 6:9, 10:5, 29:22, 128:3 Found - 8:15, 79:21, 132:5 Four - 27:10, 32:22, 32:24, 33:1, 33:3, 33:4, 100:16, 100:20, 100:22 Fraud - 10:24, 10:25 Frequent - 19:19, 42:9 Frequently - 77:6 Friday - 75:4, 76:7, 76:10, 77:18, 88:23, 89:24, 104:1, 104:2, 123:16 Front - 102:14 Full - 27:11, 91:17, 108:21 Fully - 4:11 Functions - 93:4, 93:23, 95:5 Fund - 95:14 Funded - 105:8 Further - 9:10, 12:12, 25:5 Furtherance - 3:4 a | Gang - 10:21, 15:9, 16:3 Gathered - 86:4 Gave - 72:24, 126:17 Generally - 17:10, 17:11 Gentleman - 61:8 Gets - 22:24, 38:18, 39:13, 42:6, 53:4, 83:13, 108:20, 108:21 Give - 13:21, 59:4, 60:15, 89:10, 113:6, 135:9 Given - 15:2, 20:24, 126:18, 129:14, 129:19 Glencoe - 94:9, 94:11 Goal - 11:24 Gone - 78:19, 84:10, 119:3 Good - 46:16, 61:10, 74:4, 105:7, 125:8 Grab - 134:11 HE - 90:18, 90:19, 91:1, 91:2 Grill - 122:18, 122:23 Group - 15:23, 38:17 Guess - 19:12, 48:2, 122:13, 122:19, 132:4 Guidance - 102:14 HM - 89:10 Guys - 18:5, 63:15, 63:17, 91:17, 103:11 a Hadn't - 115:16 Hand - 4:17 Handle - 17:12, 28:20, 36:21 Handler - 94:25, 95:3, 97:4 Handles - 28:18, 99:21 Hang - 10:15 Hanging - 121:17, 121:24, 122:9 Hangs - 26:19, 26:21 Hard - 15:8 Harm - 34:15 Harry - 99:5 Hasn't - 121:4 Haven't - 44:15, 135:11 Head - 106:6 Health - 21:12, 21:22, 22:4, 23:22, 24:4, 24:5, 25:8, 29:13, 44:13, 47:17, 47:22 Heard - 89:23, 124:6 Hearing - 132:6 Heart - 49:12 Heavy - 26:12 Hereby ~ 4:20, 4:22 High - 7:22, 9:8, 17:8, 17:12, 18:1, 19:1, 19:21, 47:9, 50:20, 92:4 Hire - 92:17 Hired - 93:7 Hiring - 91:22, 101:6 Hold - 13:16, 105:22 Home - 118:15 Honest - 6:11 Hospital - 25:25, 128:23 Hour - 34:9, 100:24, 101:1, 101:14, 104:7 Hours - 26:6, 26:24, 99:25, 100:4, 101:9, 101:10, 101:17, 101:20, 101:22, 101:25, 102:2, 102:10, 104:3 House - 59:1, 85:20, 119:21, 119:24 Housed - 15:11, 16:1, 17:5, 51:5, 69:3, 69:11, 74:13 Housekeeping - 12 9:3 How's -125:9 Hurt - 44:16 Ct) I'd -92:4 Ideations - 25:19, 48:19 Identifying - 107:6 IG - 129:23, 135:14 ll - 3:7, 4:15, 135:13 Immediate - 54:3 Immediately - 110:2 0, 116:8 Implementing - 30: 25 Incidents - 52:12 Inconclusive - 132: SDNY_00008034 EFTA_00001158 EFTA00135507

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8 Individual's - 39:25, 43:6 Inevitably - 127:13 Influence - 4:10 Informed - 69:12, 106:8 Infraction - 41:7, 41:10 Infractions - 50:19 Inhumane - 122:16 Initial - 44:3, 53:22, 113:5, 113:6, 113:7, 116:11, 132:5, 133:21 Initially - 7:9, 10:3, 11:23, 15:5, 16:24, 17:3, 43:25, 53:24, 53:25, 94:8, 129:15 Initiate - 54:2 Initiated - 128:22 Initiates - 49:23 Inmates - 9:12, 15:16, 17:10, 17:12, 19:2, 19:22, 22:3, 24:11, 34:10, 43:22, 50:19, 51:5, 60:24, 76:25, 85:7, 95:7, 111:18, 120:17, 132:24 Inmate's - 15:22, 34:14, 77:9 Input - 30:23, 45:23, 45:25, 58:7 Inspector - 3:11 Installed - 105:8 Installing - 105:9 Institutions - 12:25, 13:1 Instructed - 81:5, 81:22, 87:16 Instructions - 14:17 , 16:2 Intake - 21:9, 24:22, 44:3, 111:20 Interactions - 124:2 5 Internal - 5:23, 6:5, 49:2 Interview - 3:3, 3:6, 18:7, 18:9, 18:15, 23:21, 125:22, 125:23, 135:4 Interviewed - 49:2, 49:3, 49:20 Introduction - 51:2 Investigation - 3:4, 49:2 Investigations - 6:6 51:1 Investigative - 5:19, 49:19, 51:3, 51:13, 107:21 Involvement - 47:1 8 Irate - 119:22 Issue - 16:4, 23:22, 63:2, 92:8 Issues - 9:15, 10:23, 10:25, 20:14, 21:5, 22:5, 23:8, 23:11, 23:12, 23:25, 24:3, 24:24, 25:1, 25:2, 46:14, 50:20, 56:19, 76:8, 106:4 I've - 6:2, 100:14 HM - 79:13, 79:15, 11721, 117:2, 117:9, 117:24, 120:19, 120:21, 124:4 Jeffrey - 6:20, 47:14, 127:18 - 69:18, 126:8 Job - 93:3, 103:7 Joiner - 99:5 Joining - 18:15 Judgement - 59:12 Judgment - 46:17, 59:11, 59:14, 62:14 July - 53:18, 54:7, 63:18 Jump - 124:21 Justice - 3:23, 6:7 a Kevin - 61:15 Key - 122:14 Keyed - 87:10 Keys - 122:14, 122:22, 122:24 Kick - 11:13 Kill - 29:5, 49:10 Known - 9:4, 83:16 Knows - 121:25 Lamine - 3:3, 3:14, 4:18, 4:19 Lane - 123:24, 123:25 Late - 121:2 Later - 16:16, 65:19, 67:7 Laundry - 95:8 Leading - 76:6 Leave - 42:25, 54:8, 57:1, 57:18, 63:20, 64:5 Leaving - 76:9, 77:3, 77:7, 77:21, 78:6, 78:11, 86:8, 87:15 Left - 81:15, 89:16, 112:10, 118:12, 118:13, 119:10, 120:7, 124:7 Length - 114:18 Let's - 6:14, 16:5, 34:14, 41:6, 42:24, 52:15, 56:21, 60:9, 71:6, 77:22, 89:1, 92:10, 103:25, 111:15, 115:23, 125:2 Level - 44:5 Levels - 91:18 Lieutenants - 38:19 , 38:22, 39:22, 70:6, 70:9, 89:22 Limit - 99:24, 101:13, 102:4, 102:8 Line - 53:5, 84:12, 114:12, 117:21 Lines - 45:15, 56:16, 106:1 List - 38:7, 41:17, 50:17, 55:12, 72:5, 72:6, 72:23, 77:15, 96:11, 96:17, 96:20, 97:11 Listened - 113:19 Listening - 114:6, 114:8 Listing - 127:1 Locate - 131:8 Locations - 107:8 Log - 37:6, 37:8, 129:17, 130:5, 133:4, 133:7 Long - 5:25, 63:3, 73:19, 75:20, 106:15, 106:19 Longer - 31:20, 74:23 Look - 9:25, 35:14, 39:2, 50:25, 54:23, 75:12, 88:25, 92:4, 97:20, 106:13, 128:14 Looked - 75:15, 123:4 Looking - 8:16, 12:3, 130:8 Lost - 122:19 Lot - 6:5, 28:14, 96:5, 105:10, 105:13 Low - 92:3 Luxury - 100:6 a | Machine - 56:7 Major - 24:9 Majority - 93:7, 93:9 Making - 63:16, 69:14, 76:3, 91:12, 125:4, 125:12 Male - 15:13 Manager - 107:25, 113:19, 113:24 Managers - 51:12 Mandated - 96:23, 96:25, 97:3, 97:11, 99:18, 104:1 Mandation - 96:16, 96:20 Many - 70:24, 74:2, 101:14, 102:9, 115:4, 115:7, 115:12 Marshalls - 77:12 Material - 94:25, 95:2, 97:4 MCC - 17:7, 22:4, 25:22, 35:24, 39:15, 47:19, 74:23, 75:23, 75:24, 76:9, 77:4, 77:6, 78:11, 91:15 Means - 44:25, 50:23 Meant - 106:24 Measures - 79:2, 80:4, 121:16, 121:23, 123:1, 128:22 Medical - 7:14, 22:5, 22:7, 22:23, 23:6, 23:11, 24:2, 24:14, 29:12, 32:9, 32:10, 37:20, 46:2, 46:6, 59:11, 60:2, 116:3, 121:14 Medically - 21:21 Medications ~ 21:25 , 24:6 Meeting - 8:19, 51:19, 51:25, 52:7, 53:10, 53:11, 53:19, 54:6, 55:4, 55:9, 55:10, 68:18, 68:20, 69:24, 126:18 Meetings - 14:16, 50:5, 50:16, 51:10, 53:4 Member - 10:22, 28:25, 36:7, 118:25, 122:2 Members - 15:10, 16:3 Memo - 90:16, 91:4, 91:6 Memorandum - 89: 9, 89:12, 119:5, 120:22, 120:23 Memory - 108:20 Mental - 21:12, 22:4, 23:21, 24:3, 24:4, 24:5, 25:8, 29:13, 44:13, 46:14, 47:16, 47:22 Mentally - 44:13 Messages - 126:14 Messed - 117:19 Michael - 94:24, 99:7, 99:13 Midnight - 124:1 Might've - 9:21, 10:24, 48:23, 66:5, 73:11, 84:10, 98:9, 123:21 HE - 31:7, 31:9, 33:5, 33:6, 46:19, 50:2, 53:21, 58:21, 59:7, 60:9 Mindful - 69:14 Minimum - 71:20, 100:10 Missing - 130:13, 130:16 Mission - 28:13, 28:14 Mistake - 123:13 Mix - 122:24 Monday - 3:1, 7:11, 8:11, 8:12, 8:18, 10:2, 21:2, 22:16, §4:22, 55:1, 120:13 Money - 102:25 Monitor - 113:18 Monitored - 26:24, 113:16 Monitoring - 114:24 Morning - 8:19, 41:21, 42:1, 81:12, 81:15, 89:13, 89:14, 89:22, 120:8, 120:9, 134:19 Mother - 119:17 Move - 27:11, 29:22, 74:11, 74:12, 83:17, 93:13, 128:24 Moved - 5:14, 65:24, 66:24, 69:22, 70:1, 70:13 Moves - 52:22 Movies - 26:12 Moving - 6:9, 27:17, 67:20, 128:3 SDNY_00008035 EFTA_00001159 EFTA00135508

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Much - 42:25, 43:1, 57:11, 58:7, 80:2 CN) Narcotics - 44:18 Nathan - 3:17 Nathaniel - 114:2 Nay - 34:4 Needed - 19:14, 21:6, 59:5, 62:2, 81:22, 89:17, 90:3, 129:19, 129:23, 129:25 New - 9:7, 18:17, 38:9, 105:8, 105:11 News - 8:4, 8:16 Night - 81:14, 95:15, 97:1, 124:4 Nobody - 40:5, 121:25 Noel - 97:23, 117:13, 117:16, 117:17, 118:2, 119:4, 119:13, 119:15 Normal - 7:14, 7:20, 106:10 Normally - 17:11, 113:15 Northeast - 12:21 Note - 6:10 Noted - 114:21 Notes - 36:25 Notice - 8:6, 12:12, 77:6 Notification - 21:12, 27:16, 37:20, 39:25, 40:3, 52:21, 77:2, 82:22, 107:10, 110:3, 110:7 Notifications - 52:1 2, 52:23, 52:24, 54:16, 110:14 Notifies - 107:11 Notify - 14:8, 19:14, 40:24, 64:6, 64:15, 66:3, 67:12, 68:7, 81:22, 82:10, 83:17, 88:4, 107:24, 116:7, 116:14 Notifying - 66:17, 68:1 Lo) Objections - 72:23 Objects - 130:13 Obs - 45:19, 58:19 Observation - 30:3, 44:8, 44:15, 44:21, 45:2, 45:4, 45:24, 45:25, 58:11, 58:12, 65:20, 66:1, 67:8 Observations - 53: 22 Observe - 27:6, 52:10, 130:19 Observed - 86:7, 87:15 Observer - 30:9, 30:12 Observing - 45:6 Occur - 22:11 Occurred - 16:15, 19:6 Occurring - 130:14 Odd - 130:24, 131:9, 131:15 Offender - 61:2 Offense - 6:12 Office - 3:11, 5:19, 15:24, 50:20, 54:21, 72:11, 128:13, 129:20 Officers - 51:18, 51:25, 52:6, 53:5, 82:19, 83:2, 83:4, 83:8, 84:16, 85:22, 86:5, 87:13, 93:10, 93:18, 95:21, 97:10, 107:11 Offices - 12:16, 69:13, 74:10, 89:15 Officially - 8:13, 13:19 Often - 19:10, 19:20, 19:22, 77:5, 95:24 OIG - 3:4, 3:23 Old - 73:3 Older - 61:8 Ones - 37:20, 61:21, 83:5, 94:2, 105:22 One's - 132:16 Opened - 121:15 Operating - 107:16 Operation - 42:5 Operations - 79:16, 88:18, 88:19, 133:23 Options - 73:25, 74:4 Oral - 110:6 Orally - 46:11, 46:12 Order - 112:6 Orders - 87:16 Originally - 60:21, 75:16 Ma - 13:7, 13:8, 13:10, 13:19, 14:2, 67:6 Outcome - 51:19 Outdated - 105:15 Overpowered - 122 13, 122:19 Overrule - 33:9, 33:17, 46:2 Overtime - 96:4, 96:5, 96:6, 96:7, 97:15, 97:17, 98:6, 99:19, 99:23, 99:24, 100:24, 101:8, 102:17, 104:25 Overtimes - 100:22 Own - 74:7, 74:11 a Pack - 83:21 Packed - 83:11, 83:13, 83:20, 86:8 Packing - 84:15, 85:23 Paperwork - 36:10 Participated - 86:7 Pass - 62:21, 135:13 Past - 90:23 Patrolling - 53:6 Paused - 18:8 Pausing - 18:7, 125:22 Peculiar - 130:14 Peculiarities - 130: 23 Pending - 51:1 People - 11:10, 23:7, 27:16, 37:4, 43:22, 68:25, 85:16, 92:11, 92:18, 94:19, 100:9, 100:16, 101:4, 102:16, 112:21, 119:23 People's - 102:22 Percentage - 92:1 HB - 61:1. 90:8, 91:4 Perform - 44:1, 93:3, 93:22, 122:25 Performing - 80:4 Period - 108:20 Periodically - 106:2 1 Person - 11:15, 39:12, 40:23, 122:8 Person's - 40:4 + 61:24 + 61:15, 61:25, 62:1 Phone - 13:12, 17:20, 34:13, 34:16, 80:7, 111:15, 111:19, 113:1, 113:4, 113:14, 114:6, 114:9, 114:12, 114:13, 114:18, 115:4, 115:14, 115:17, 118:3 Physicals - 56:5 Pick - 34:15 Picked - 118:3 Picking - 73:21, 77:13 Pickings - 60:18 Place - 27:15, 29:1, 36:7, 36:14, 36:15, 72:14, 77:23 Places - 107:1 Placing - 28:22, 28:24 Plan - 29:8, 29:21, 31:18, 45:13, 47:12, 67:18, 70:1, 77:23 Ploy - 122:7, 122:12 Policies - 6:15, 10:9, 11:5, 20:17, 25:12, 27:14, 99:23, 111:18 Policy - 10:9, 24:11, 35:25, 36:1, 36:3, 42:4, 62:10, 62:13, 64:12, 64:13, 122:1, 122:5 Poor - 105:17 Populate - 10:18, 24:25 Position - 5:24, 32:3, 121:24, 123:5 Positions - 93:8, 93:11, 101:7 Possibilities - 127: 2 Possibles - 72:24 Post - 96:23, 98:21, 100:7, 100:8 Posts - 91:23, 97:20 Potential - 44:16 Precautions - 42:23 Present - 3:6, 5:23, 51:25, 55:6 Preservation - 134: 6 Preserve - 129:22, 129:24, 130:2, 134:5 Preserved - 127:10, 130:1 Preserving - 119:12 , 126:13, 127:8, 129:14 Presidents - 17:22 Press - 129:4, 129:7 Prevent - 4:11 Prevention - 35:3, 35:12, 35:21 Previous - 103:6 Prior - 76:2 Prison - 6:6, 6:16, 35:19, 43:14, 43:23, 100:4 Prisons - 3:15 Privacy - 23:12 Probability - 76:20 Problem - 61:4, 92:14, 106:14, 108:1, 109:17, 112:16, 125:20 Problems - 109:9, 132:20 Procedure - 42:5, 106:11 Procedures - 7:15, 33:13 Proceedings - 76:8, 76:13 Processed - 8:9, 77:1 Processing - 95:9 Profession - 33:19 Professionals - 29: 19, 94:4 Profile - 7:22, 9:8, 17:8, 17:12, 18:1, 19:2, 19:21, 47:9, 50:21 Program - 28:4, 30:15, 30:25, 31:3, 47:17, 47:23 Promoted - 5:17, §:20, 93:10 Pronounced - 128: 23 Property - 43:6, 84:10, 84:17, 86:2 Protocol - 48:13, 70:3, 71:17 Protocols - 48:25, 54:14, 70:23 Provide - 3:25 Psyche - 30:3, 43:12, 43:16, 44:8, 44:14, 45:1, 45:3, 45:16, 45:19, 58:10, 58:12, 58:18, 65:20 Psychological - 22: 24, 23:7, 23:19, 43:12, 43:19, 45:24, 55:19, 66:1 Psychologically - 4 3:24 Psychologist - 22:1 SDNY_00008036 EFTA_00001160 EFTA00135509

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4, 22:16, 22:18, 25:9, 25:13, 25:17, 28:4, 28:6, 28:18, 31:6, 31:17, 31:25, 33:10, 45:9, 47:19, 59:9, 99:11 Psychologists - 23: 20, 28:10, 29:16, 32:23, 32:25, 46:17, 94:4 Psychologist's - 59 122 Psychology's - 58: 3 Push - 82:10 Puts - 38:5 Putting - 13:16, 45:4, 61:6, 114:24 Ca) Qualify - 93:5, 94:16 Quality - 105:17, 10711 Quarterly - 35:21, 36:2, 98:21 Quick - 115:23, 130:4 Quote - 29:15, 39:1, 108:18, 122:5 es Raise - 4:16 Range - 122:15, 122:18 Ranks - 5:15 HM - 3:12, 17:23, 115:23, 125:18 Ray - 13:7, 13:8, 67:6 Re - 94:16, 108:21 Ready - 9:11, 10:14, 28:2, 37:16, 45:13, 59:10, 59:13, 59:18, 59:19 Realize - 8:11 Realized - 82:25 Reason - 4:11 Reasoning - 33:23 Reasons - 7:3 Rebekah - 18:17, 18:23 Recap - 87:11 Receipts - 87:5 Receive - 94:7 Received - 62:6, 131:25 Receiving - 57:4, 76:23, 84:22, 85:5, 87:5 Recipe - 122:15 Recognition - 112:6 Recorded - 113:16, 114:10, 114:11 Recording - 105:18, 105:19, 105:24, 106:5, 107:24, 108:1, 108:13, 108:15, 108:21 Recordings - 105:2 3, 108:17, 109:5 Referenced - 126:1 4 Referral - 36:19 Refresher - 93:12, 94:15 Region - 12:18, 12:22, 52:13, 52:14, 65:11, 65:14 Regular - 28:17, 45:6, 98:6, 98:10, 98:12 Regulations - 111:1 7 Release - 11:9, 46:25, 50:25 Released - 37:17, 37:25, 38:13, 40:11, 42:3, 45:14, 53:14, 53:16, 63:8, 75:1, 75:3, 75:6, 76:20 Releasing - 73:12 Reliability - 105:6 Reliable - 105:17 Relieved - 124:4 Reminding = 71:6 Remove - 32:14, 33:1, 33:2, 92:15 Removed - 37:13, 37:16, 38:3, 38:6, 40:1, 42:16, 43:4, 43:6, 65:19, 67:8, 67:14 Removing - 31:11, 32:11 Rep - 119:7 Report - 41:8, 49:18, 49:20, 52:11, 127:13, 127:18, 127:20, 128:10, 132:1, 132:3 Reports - 8:16, 37:12, 37:15, 59:22, 86:22 Request - 3:25 Requesting - 56:8 Requests - 130:1 Require - 100:8 Required - 16:13, 35:7, 103:20 Requirements - 44: 25 Resolved - 41:11 Respect - 55:15 Respond - 34:17 Responded - 121:2 5 Responding - 121:2 1, 122:25 Response - 27:16 Responsibilities - 6 4:12, 85:17 Responsibility - 64: 13, 69:2, 84:24, 95:20, 95:25, 99:14 Responsible - 28:2 2, 31:10, 31:23, 32:11, 37:3, 53:5, 85:23 Result - 24:17 Results - 22:21 Resuming - 18:9, 125:23 Reviewed - 3:22, 11:14, 48:2, 49:19, 133:25 Reviewing - 107:18 Reyes’ - 73:15, 81:3, 83:19, 84:15, 84:17, 85:24, 86:7, 86:22, 87:15 HB - 88:12, 88:13, 88:14 Road - 91:16 Role - 6:5, 12:6, 28:3 Room - 18:16, 20:13, 20:15, 78:4, 84:10, 86:2, 108:2, 108:4, 108:5, 108:10, 109:3, 112:17, 126:24 Roommate - 15:6, 67:23, 68:5, 73:22 Roommates - 72:4 Roster - 88:25 Rounds - 52:9, 69:14, 71:14, 71:19, 88:20, 125:4, 125:12, 128:19, 129:17 Routed - 11:9 Routine - 81:11 Row - 102:9, 103:8 Rules - 99:22 Run - 110:19 Runs - 28:6, 30:22 [Cs Safe - 100:10 Safety - 25:2, 63:2, 123:2 Samantha - 99:9 Sams - 51:4 Sanctioned - 50:24 Saturday - 111:1, 120:25, 121:2 Saving - 79:1, 80:4, 121:16, 121:22, 123:1, 128:22 Saw - 8:3, 115:12, 116:23, 118:6, 125:2, 125:4 Scene - 79:9 Scott - 65:6, 79:5, 79:6 Screen - 22:15, 22:19, 22:23, 109:6, 109:9 Screened ~ 22:4, 22:7 Screening - 7:14, 21:9, 24:13, 24:15, 24:22, 25:8, 44:4, 111:20 Screenings - 22:21, 22:24, 24:18 Screens - 22:8 Second - 25:23, 42:19, 58:14, 59:25, 73:17 Secretary - 123:10, 123:22 Secure - 122:20 Security - 56:13 See - 9:14, 10:14, 26:11, 39:4, 107:5, 108:3, 108:10, 108:14, 109:3, 119:4, 125:2 Seeing - 120:6 Sees - 122:2 Selecting - 30:24 Sending - 119:23 Sends - 41:17 Sent - 17:21, 38:18, 39:8, 42:6, 61:11, 61:12, 62:4, 72:7, 72:10, 89:9, 119:15, 119:20, 126:15, 127:1, 128:10 Sentry - 75:12, 87:9 Separate - 16:5, 32:3 Separated - 15:25, 62:24, 73:5, 74:15 Separation - 9:15, 10:23, 15:23, 24:24, 74:14 Service - 21:23 Services - 97:22 Set - 100:13, 111:23, 112:3, 112:6, 112:15, 112:24, 113:18, 115:2 Several - 11:10, 95:5 Sex - 61:2 Shall - 5:3, 5:5 She'll - 124:13 She's - 31:23, 31:24, 31:25, 33:17, 33:18, 98:2, 98:17, 120:13, 124:11, 130:7 Shift - 8:9, 69:13, 98:7, 98:12, 99:20, 100:25, 101:1, 101:8, 107:12, 133:24, 133:25 Ship - 84:12 Shirley - 65:6 Shop - 95:7, 107:24 Should've - 7:24, 55:3, 82:21, 83:2, 83:16 Show - 87:8 Showed - 75:16 Shower - 125:6 Showing - 75:20, 86:25, 133:7 Sick - 120:11, 120:12 Sign - 11:10, 11:13, 49:25, 102:16 Signature - 134:13, 134:14, 134:15 Signed - 3:23, 97:6 Signs - 35:12, 35:14, 133:24 Simple - 134:4 Siock - 17:19 SIS - 108:2, 109:4, 109:15, 128:7, 129:20 Sit - 27:5 Sitting - 26:25, 49:11 Situation - 19:12, 19:23, 62:23, 63:7, 116:3, 117:8, 122:3 Situations - 15:21, 102:22, 111:21 Skipper - 65:6, 79:5, 79:6 Sleep - 56:7 Sleeping - 119:24, 120:4 SDNY_00008037 EFTA_00001161 EFTA00135510

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Slim - 60:18 Small - 125:3 Smock - 26:3, 26:7, 45:5 Solemnly - 4:20, 4:22 Somebody's - 7:22, 38:3, 74:14, 77:15, 122:9 Someone's - 29:24, 45:23 Sound - 62:14, 122:16 Southern - 18:17 Sp - 13:7, 17:20, 31:8, 51:5, 61:16, 65:6, 90:18, 97:24, 99:10, 109:20, 114:2 Space - 42:25, 43:1 Specialized - 94:14 Specific - 7:5, 14:17, 15:2, 16:17, 19:16, 34:24, 35:17, 37:12, 71:18, 94:19, 132:13 Specifics - 54:12, 103:3 Spell - 3:7, 18:21 Spelling - 3:15 Spent - 20:7 Spot - 81:3 Staffed - 92:11 Staffing - 89:2, 91:15, 91:18, 92:1, 92:5, 100:15 Standard - 15:16, 42:5 Start - 6:16, 14:23, 60:9, 80:6, 133:20 Started - 5:11, 5:16, 80:15, 80:19, 81:10, 119:11, 121:16 Starting - 91:21 Starts - 108:21 State - 92:24 Statement - 127:25, 128:18 Statements - 4:16, 4:24, 5:1, 25:19, 49:21, 135:7 Stating - 30:2, 38:5, 42:3 Status - 9:10, 45:25, 50:22, 53:12, 55:12, 55:19, 92:13 Stay - 14:9, 104:20, 122:22 Stayed - 121:2 Staying - 15:5 Step - 18:5, 44:11, 124:14, 125:15, 125:19 Stood - 113:19 Stop - 45:10 Stored - 84:18 Straight - 41:14 Stranger - 17:8 Street - 93:8 Stringent - 44:22 Stuck - 130:24 Studies - 28:15 Stuff's - 107:23 Submitted - 120:23 Substances - 4:10 Suggested - 91:3 Suggestions - 72:1 9 Suicidal - 25:9, 25:11, 25:14, 25:18, 29:1, 48:16, 48:18, 48:19, 58:25, 59:8, 59:12, 59:19 Sunday - 119:16 Supervises - 12:25 Supervisor - 13:4, 13:5, 33:18, 67:18, 88:16, 103:7 Supervisors - 33:4, 38:21, 39:21 Support - 118:9, 119:16 Supposed - 39:23, 40:6, 40:7, 40:8, 52:9, 64:14, 87:21, 131:21, 133:19 Sustain - 132:7 Swear - 4:15, 4:20, 4:22 Synopsis - 128:14 System - 87:3, 105:15, 114:24 Systems - 108:22 Taking - 10:22, 20:12, 22:2, 47:10, 77:14 Tape - 18:8 Target - 132:13 Targeted - 132:25 Tartaglione - 15:12, 48:21, 49:6, 49:11, 60:19, 60:20, 60:21 Team - 22:8, 118:10 Telephone - 63:23, 111:23, 112:3, 112:15 Telling - 5:10, 6:25, 66:22, 70:25, 79:18 Tells - 59:10 Temporarily - 78:9 Term - 73:19, 75:20 Terminology - 86:1 7, 93:19, 128:16 Terms - 10:9, 11:5, 91:18, 91:25, 99:23, 99:25, 114:23, 129:14 Text - 126:14 Thanks - 18:24, 91:12 These - 17:12, 51:9, 53:4, 70:22, 85:15, 97:20, 101:7 They'd - 28:1, 85:13 They'll - 27:23, 30:6, 36:13, 46:12, 83:25 They've - 50:23, 62:12, 129:23 Thomas - 94:24, 99:13, 117:18, 118:12, 118:17, 118:20, 119:13, 121:14, 121:20 Thomas' - 119:17 Thompson - 95:19 Threats - 9:15 Three - 32:21, 60:25, 61:11, 61:18, 61:19, 72:1, 72:24, 127:2 Thursday - 53:19, 56:4, 110:2 Thursdays - 50:12 Tier - 133:7 Timeframe - 22:10, 63:12 Timeline - 80:21, 108:19 Times - 16:9, 16:14, 19:16, 68:22, 70:24, 71:5, 82:9, 87:18, 87:19, 128:1 Tired - 120:4 Title - 3:8, 93:3 Hl - 97:23 Today - 3:1, 4:13, 6:11, 6:19, 89:20, 119:17, 120:2, 120:11, 120:12, 121:8, 127:21 Tonight - 124:13 Took - 49:21, 72:14, 73:14, 75:11, 84:6, 121:15 Topics - 94:17 = 123:7, 123:8, 123:10, 123:21, 123:23 Total - 15:22 Trace - 114:12 Tracing - 114:17 Track - 47:20, 87:9, 117:22 Train - 93:13 Trained - 27:9, 29:18, 30:15, 34:13, 35:18, 35:19, 93:18 Training - 30:16, 30:24, 34:24, 35:3, 35:4, 35:6, 35:10, 35:22, 36:2, 93:6, 93:12, 94:7, 94:12, 94:15 Transcription - 3:5, 18:21 Transferred - 75:5 Traumatic - 118:23 Treated - 45:11 Treatment - 37:4 Trips - 94:1 Trust - 46:17, 59:11, §9:13, 95:14 Truth - 5:3, 5:4, 5:5, 5:6 Truthfully - 4:13 Tuesday - 120:13 Turn - 100:7, 104:18 Turns - 96:19 Twice - 41:21, 71:10 Two - 32:20, 103:13, 103:16, 103:21, 103:22, 103:23, 104:8, 108:19, 108:20, 122:23 a | Unapproved - 131: 22 Understaffed - 91:1 9, 92:22 Union - 118:20, 119:7 United - 18:16 Units - 90:24, 93:6 Unless - 62:22, 124:17 Unmonitored - 111: 22 Unofficial - 102:13, 103:12 Unreliable - 106:16, 106:18 Unreported - 111:18 Unresponsive - 128 121 Updated - 20:3, 58:2 Updates - 55:12, 57:5, 57:11 Used - 49:13 Using - 107:17 a Versus - 43:12 Vests - 26:13 Vetted - 78:3 Via - 63:22, 64:11, 87:16 View - 34:23 Vigilant - 71:6, 71:16 Vision - 107:2 Visit - 125:3 Visits - 20:7, 55:24, 81:14 Visual - 109:8 VOICE - 18:3, 18:5, 112:6 Voluntarily - 96:9 Voluntary - 3:2, 3:25, 100:1, 104:16 Volunteer - 96:11, 97:14, 97:16 Volunteering - 101: 5 Cw) WAB - 84:2 Wait - 16:20, 60:20, 122:6, 122:17, 122:24 Wants - 102:11 Wardens - 14:15, 51:12, 69:6 Warehouse - 95:4, 95:5, 95:9, 95:12 Warnings - 3:24 Warranted - 46:6 + 98:25 , 99:1 Wasn't - 16:18, 20:2, 24:7, 58:24, 59:19, 70:20, 74:2, 79:10, 87:20, 97:2, 109:13, 115:2, 119:6, 131:21 Watched - 26:6 Watching - 45:18, 45:21 Weapons - 93:5 We'd - 19:13, 77:24 Week - 50:5, 50:10, 51:20, 54:7, 54:18, 57:1, 71:19, 76:7, 99:25, 100:17, 100:20, 100:22, SDNY_00008038 EFTA_00001162 EFTA00135511

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101:14, 104:3, 108:19, 108:20 Weekend - 7:10, 7:18, 10:3, 21:16, 21:20, 22:13, 22:18, 119:19 Weeks - 13:23, 13:25, 19:6 Weight - 122:10 We'll - 36:15, 36:16, 44:14, 46:13, 47:11, §5:10, 119:9, 130:2 Weren't - 7:6, 8:1, 74:4, 93:7, 111:9 We've - 17:17, 17:18, 27:23, 92:11, 105:12, 122:19 What's - 7:19, 29:21, 50:22, 51:16, 55:12, 55:22, 58:2, 65:17, 67:5, 69:16, 77:5, 95:11, 96:16, 105:18, 106:14, 108:14, 130:20 Where's - 80:16, 80:20 White - 15:12 Whole - 5:4, 5:6, 7:13, 20:7, 67:25, 122:20 Wide - 39:7, 39:9, 39:11 Will - 3:2, 3:6, 22:19, 36:21, 40:24, 46:25, 52:6, 53:14, 77:13, 87:8, 111:22, 119:9, 127:12, 127:17 Wiring - 105:15 Wise - 56:13 Won't - 104:1, 122:4 Word - 12:9, 15:23 Words - 49:13 Worked - 6:7, 82:23, 121:3, 121:4, 124:3, 124:4 Worker - 107:11 Workers - 85:2, 92:25, 93:1, 93:20, 94:7, 97:14 Workman's - 92:12 Works - 27:19, 95:24, 96:2, 97:3, 119:17 Wouldn't - 71:11, 77:25, 86:24, 97:3, 103:7 Write - 91:4, 120:22, 133:20 Writing - 90:7, 90:9 Wrote - 120:23 Yay - 34:4 Year - 35:2, 73:3, 93:5, 93:13, 94:16 Wl - 18:17 You've - 6:5, 6:6, 15:9, 118:22, 126:15, 126:16 a 00:00:14 - 18:14 00:02:06 - 20:10 00:03:19 - 21:18 00:04:04 - 7:16 00:08:37 - 13:3 00:12:26 - 32:22 00:12:41 - 17:23 00:17:07 - 38:24 00:19:21 - 42:6 00:25:35 - 49:4 00:46:26 - 74:9 00:57:40 - 88:21 00:58:59 - 90:11 00:59:26 - 91:9 01:04:52 - 98:9 01:05:01 - 98:18 01:08:57 - 104:6 01:18:13 - 115:24 01:23:09 - 120:18 01:27:13 - 124:18 08/10/2019 - 133:7 rs 10:55 - 18:8 10:56 - 18:15 10th - 95:16 12 - 3:2, 90:17 12:23 - 125:21 12:29 - 125:24 12:35 - 135:1 16 - 101:14, 101:17, 101:22, 102:9, 104:7 1975 - 105:11 1st - 55:5 a 20% - 92:22 2018 - 6:3 2019 - 90:17 21 - 12:24, 13:1, 103:7 226-2 - 3:23 22nd - 54:7, 63:21, 103:8 23rd - 53:18, 63:18, 64:7 24 - 26:6, 26:24, 34:9, 100:4, 101:25, 102:2 26 - 73:3 26th - 54:8 29th - 54:18, 54:19, 54:24, 54:25, 55:2 30 - 92:11, 113:11, 113:13, 133:15, 6:45 - 81:18, 116:4 6:50 - 78:22, 116:6 7:30 - 80:23, 81:13 70s - 92:4 80% - 92:6, 92:11 80s - 92:4 9th - 77:19, 95:16 IN¥_00008039 EFTA_00001163 EFTA00135512