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) No No N ine] N WwW wo WwW fee} wo ie] Ww MR. a : The recorder is on and it’s currently June 14, 2021 at approximately credentials. I’1l show it to you again. a: This Bureau of Prisons Correctional Officer of an official U.S. Department of wu 7) 'S nt) rt Gq ry rt K Qo it) Oo Ph Hh Bb. a @ is) Fh rt J rt) Inspector General investigation. is June 14th and the time a.m. The interview is if] approximately being conducted on the third-floor telephone monitor room of the Metropolitan Cor Wo EFTA00114186

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co Ww tC ieutenant | ew will be Can everyone pleas record and spell I am DOJ cial Agent hing in res se yt ct And you’re being o voluntarily answers to our q tions. Will with the DOJ ct 1) w oO K voluntary int MR. ae: I’m going to pro EFTA00114187

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10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Requested to Provide Information on a Voluntary Basis. I’m going to read it out to you first. And then I’1l1 let you review it also. You are being asked to provide information as part of an investigation being conducted by the Office of the Inspector General. This investigation is being conducted pursuant to the Inspector General Act of 1978 as amended. This investigation pertains to job performance failure and security failure. This is a voluntary interview. Accordingly, you do not have to answer any questions. No disciplinary action will be taken against you if you choose not to answer any questions. Any statement you furnish may be used as evidence in any future criminal proceedings, or agency disciplinary proceedings, and/or both. Now this is the waiver part. This is for you. I understand the Warnings and Assurances stated above and I am willing to make a statement and answer questions. No promises or threats have been made to me and no pressure or coercion of any kind has been used against me. Do you understand? MS. Ee : I understand. EFTA00114188

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wo WwW wo 3 Hh oO et MR. ae: Do you want to move with the interview? sign your name and ward 7) A t just say thank you for signing and (Indiscernible *00:03:3 to print my name on it. And Agent also going to do it. 7 MR. ae : Thank you SA fF for signing and dating 6/14/2021 at 9: Po and I am now signing as the witness and printing my name as a witness. MR. a: Again, thank you, a. Before starting the interview, I would like to your right hand? Do you o i) place you under oath. Li wo to tell the truth and nothing but the truth during this interview? my knowledge and belief. MR. a : Thank you do not understand any questio 0 i) n rt Oo mh 1. Please let me EFTA00114189

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1 I will repeat it or try to rephrase it. I ask little bit of your backgro What is your current home address? 1 MR. ae: Thank you. What is your date Number. fe) 5 a 3 Cc =] fon oO KR fa} 20 MR. a: What is your higt t le of EFTA00114190

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Ne] WwW WwW military. branch? Alright. the Federa Do you r it was in assl And how long 1 Bureau of Pri Twenty-six year emember when I don’t’ remembe 195 it was in ine. When and gnment with ti have sons? 1995. where BOP? oo EFTA00114191

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Ww 3 ti) MS. ae : FCI Terminal Island. MR. ae: And after that, how long were you at Terminal Island for? MS. a : For probably around months. I nd took a and then It’s the way that EFTA00114192

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Ww Ww v. other positions counselor, you ve you December did held with the Correctional ana currently asa In 2010 lieute I beli that I nant. promoted as EFTA00114193

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Ne] WwW Ww MR. ae: Where did you transfer? that was a promotion to MS. ee : Not without trying to 11 EFTA00114194

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1 MS. ae : I was a lieutenant 2 when I was at Jessup. I went there asa 9. I 3 got my 11 and I just lateral over here as an 5 MR. a: And have you been in that 6 position ever since? 7 MS. : That depends on what 8 you mean by ever since. Have I been working in wo the position or have I held that position? 0 I’ve held that position. I’m currently still a lieutenant. 2 MR. ae: Okay. And - bear with me. 3 On August 9th and 10th of 2019, what was your 4 position at the M 5 MS. ee : I was a lieutenant. 16 MR. QJ: okay. And what shift did you work on August 9th and 10th? 8 MS. ee : I believe it was the morning watch shift. wo 20 MR. QJ: §9owhat time does the morning watch shift start? MS. ae : At that time, we were N ras N ho 23 coming in I believe it was from 10:00 to 6:00. 24 I think that’s it. We would leave around 10:00 25 and then we got off - we got relieved at around EFTA00114195

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wo wo 24 = Wo Nn MR. ae: So you would come in at 10:00 a] a a] =] o | MS. ee : Well it depends on what time our relief came. But those were the hours that we were working around. Around that time. MR. QJ: Officially that’s the schedule? Officially, our hours were midnight to 8:00. But we would come in and relieve around, you know, between the hours of 10:00 and 6:00. I/’11 put it like that. MR. a: Understood. Okay. And who you worked at the MCC is) on August 9th and 10th? Who did you report to? MS. ee : Then I think it was Captain a. Yeah. I think it was captain a. We’ve had so many captains in and out since I’ve been here, it’s hard to keep track MR. a: As a lieutenant, where were n EFTA00114196

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oO oo wo o ine) Oo wo ine] 14 you assigned during August 9th and 10th where were you assigned? MS. ee : I was operations lieutenant. MR. a: Okay. And as an operations lieutenant, what are your daily duties? MS. ee : We supervise staff and of course the inmate population. We’re responsible for the safety and security of the inmate staff and the institution. We do - we hire overtime. We make runs throughout the institution. And do various other duties. We have checks and balances that we have to do throughout the night. MR. a: Okay. As a supervisor, who did you supervise? 3. ee : I supervised the inmate population and of course the staff that worked for me during that shift. MR. QJ: §9Do you remember who you r staff was during that shift? MS. ae : Ooh, all of them? No. No I do not. MR. a: Any key people you communicated with? EFTA00114197

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10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 MS. a : I mean I communicate with all my staff. MR. a : Okay. MS. Ee : There is not one person during the course of a shift that I don't communicate with. Especially when I’m making rounds. And especially during that time, I communicated with them even more because we were below the bottom of the barrel then when it came to staffing. So we really didn’t have a lot of -. We didn’t have anybody back then. We didn’t even have enough staff at that time to even respond to body alarms. Or to do uses or forces. You know. Especially on morning watch. It’s already tight. But we was even tighter. So that was one of those nights when as much as -. Well that night as like every other night. As much as possible I tried to talk to staff because staff were doing back- to-back mandations then. And you had staff that were being mandated every day of the week Monday through Sunday. Or Sunday through Saturday as we say in Bureau. Because that’s when our week officially starts - Sunday. MR. a: When you say mandated what do 15 EFTA00114198

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10 11 12 13 14 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 16 you mean by that? MS. ee: Mandations are mandatory overtime. That’s when you’ve exhausted your overtime roster. That’s the people that sign up for overtime. You’ve gone through that. There’s no one available. Or you get everybody from that list that wants to do overtime or that’s available. Then you announce it over the intercom system. That’s voluntary. Whoever wants overtime outside of that, you can assign them overtime from there. And then we go to mandatory overtime. That’s when we have nothing else left. And we have to utilize the staff that we have currently on duty that’s not officially on a double-shift. That’s not officially on 16 hours. MR. a: So I’m going to ask a couple more questions. How many hours where COs working during that time period? ON average? MS. ee : Sixteen plus because MR. a: Per day? Because there were days when staff would be late. There were days when there wasn’t EFTA00114199

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ow oO wo wo anybody even after we mandated everybody on the shift. We didn’t have anybody to fill a bunch of post is] "Sd We had vacated posts. We had a lot of stuff. It was grueling during that time. And I think we had been doing that for at least a year if not more than a year. MR. a: Okay. MS. ee : Mm-hmm. MR. a: Did you previously meet with agents regarding the Epstein investigation? MS. : tcc. MR. aa: Do you recall meeting with them on August 14, 2019 in regard to the matter? MS. ee : I don't remember what day it was. But yes, I recall meeting with them. MR. a: I have a summary of the report. What I’m going to do is I’m going to read it out to you. And once I read it out to you, we’re going to have some follow-up questions because there’s some holes in there that we would like to fill. This is like the summary part. Po informed that she had been employed with the Bureau of Prisons EFTA00114200

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ow oO wo wo 18 since December 11, 1994 and promoted to lieutenant around 2010 and has spent her entire career working at the Metropolitan Correctional Facility. During the interview, Po described the duties -. MR. a : Let her correct that. It’s not correct. So if you hear something that’s not correct -- MR. a: Yes, please. MR. Ee : -- just say that that’s not correct. MR. a: If you hear anything, please interrupt me and I’ll -. ee : Okay. I was a lieutenant prior to coming here. I had - asa matter of fact, I was promoted. I was given wu temporary position not to exceed a year as a lieutenant back in I think it was 2000, 2001 when I was at MCC San J in California. And I did - even after that year expired, I remained in the lieutenant’s office for the next three or four years after that until I transferred. And so when I came here, when I left there, I went to be a counselor. And then EFTA00114201

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Nh No N N WwW wo WwW fee} wo ie] Ww = ive} oO I picked up my lieutenant position again in When I came here, I was already a lieutenant. I didn’t get promoted to the lieu MS. ee : And I haven’t spent New York. This is my Hh Fh rt a = 5 77) ct bh: ct c cr p. is) 5 my MS. ee : I’ve been here since November of 2014. MR. a: Okay. I’m going. If MR. a: During the interview, onsibilities of the position as well as the Tl to the midnight shift to 8:00 ying to ke =p wrong, please -. ibed the duties and she s Q r mw K Q sts] wn but routinely arrives at 10:00 a.m. 10:00 p.m. p.m. Sorry, I read that wrong. In addition to describing her EFTA00114202

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10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 20 administrative duties, Po how account at the MCC works and that the lieutenants are responsible for supervising one count per shift. Po described that during the count, two guards assigned to the area are to unlock the main gate that separates the cells from the open and common area where the guards are. One guard will walk down range and actually look into each cell and count the number of prisoners inside. Once the count is complete, the guard will return to the key and exchange places with the guard that was left to secure the gate. That guard will then walk down range and count the number of prisoners in the cells. Upon completion, the guard will return to the gate, secure it from the outside, and record the numbers that came from their count. Those numbers will be compared to the master list of prisoners on record for being assigned to the south. In addition to the numbers being recorded and compared to the master list or the E-1 sheet, the guards will call in or receive a call from internal and give a verbal record of their count. And internal. EFTA00114203

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10 11 12 13 14 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 MS. ae : Wait a minute. What is that again? MR. a : I’1ll repeat that back. In addition to the numbers being recorded and compared to the master list or E-1 sheet, the guards will call in or receive a call from internal. MS. ee : That’s not true. MR. a: Go ahead. You can tell me. MS. ee : When the officers take the count, once they have gone around to each range and both of them had counted each range, before they leave that range, they will compare their count for that particular range. And they would do that in each subsequent range. When they’ve completed, they call the control center. And they will call in their unit. They will call in the count that they got for that particular unit. They will give them their name, who conducted the count, and at that time, the control center will let them know whether they have a good count or a bad count. Internals position is to pick up those count slips after each unit has counted and place those counts slips out into their 21 EFTA00114204

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10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 respective sally port to be picked up by internal. They do not call. Internal has absolutely nothing to do with their count unless they get a bad count. Sometimes internal, or if we have other extra staff, they will go up there and they will assist them with the count. You know just to see maybe if one of them miscounted or something like that. They would just be like an additional person. A new set of eyes, basically, to assist them with the count. MR. a: So before I continue, I hada question for you. Can you sat the difference between internal and control? What exactly their duties are? MS. a : The internal officer is an officer who mans the elevator. He’s responsible for moving inmates around in the institution. He has - they have checks and stuff that they do throughout their shift. But mainly they’re responsible for moving inmates up throughout the institution. They respond to body alarms. They pick up the count slips. And they just have general duties throughout the night. They assist with the count 22 EFTA00114205

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oO oo wo o ine) Oo wo ine] throughout the night. But yes, once those officers if they was to get a bad count, they count again. And then if they get another bad count, a subsequent bad count, then internal or whoever else we have available at the time that’s not assigned to doing something else will go in and conduct another count. But internal would never just - they never report to internal the results of their count. MR. Ee : I was just going to ask. if she’s able to identify during her shift who was internal. MR. a: Do you remember who was an internal that night? MS. QM: that night? No. MR. a: What about control? 3. ee : No. I don’t. And I don't want to guess. MR. a : And that’s why I gave him -. This is the official duty roster from those nights. See I didn’t expect you to remember. s why I was just asking if you were table to look at these -- MS. ee : Yeah. MR. Ee : -- things and be able to EFTA00114206

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wo wo 20 N ras N ho N a Nh Nh uw determine who it is that actually -. I think this is you. you were on the 10th. So -. MR. ae : So we’re going to present you with two rosters. One from August 9th, 2019. MR. a : Well I don't think you were on August 9th. Well I guess t i) were w the 10:00 p.m. So -. MR. a: The 10:00 p.m. And she worked an overnight too. Right? from August 9th and then also from August 10th. § O I’m going to mark it Exhibit 1 on August 93th. ) -£¢ r August 10th. Oo MR. ae: Can you take a look and let me know who the internal was and who the control was for those night MS. ee : For both nights? MR. a: Yes, please. £ looking at the assignment roster for Friday, n I'm currently MR. ae: Let’s start with that afternoon. And then the evening. MS. ee : You want day watch? 2¢ EFTA00114207

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Ne] WwW Ww On Friday, August 9, 2019, the day watch. You wanted the fir is) rt ntrol two this according to And called with the numbers. MS. ae : They generally would control number two. 1 EFTA00114208

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Ww Ww y. Control two. MS. ee : Control two. Yes. MR. a : And who was that again? On day watch that And on evening watch internal? Who was that? watch was Officer Fs who was overtime. ning watch shift, you had EFTA00114209

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ow oO oo wo wo MR. a : Great. MS. ee : Yes. Everywhere. Whether that be medical - wherever we had inmates at that time, they would have been picking up those count slips. Or sometimes if unit team or somebody like that is here. And they’re on the unit at the time, you know, they’1l say if they’re on their way down they’1l say I’1ll take the count slip down. So it just depends on what day it is and what we have going on during that specific time. But for the most part, when no one else has delivered the count slips down, it would be a Well, on this day, Friday, August 9th. It would have been between FY and | or both. MR. a : Great. Do you mind just - this is only so that we know what document you’re looking at - do you mind just initialing and dating and then circling the people that you just discussed? MS. ae : Do you want me to date each one? MR. a : No-no. I’m sorry. Just on the top of the form, just an initial anda EFTA00114210

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oo wo o wo ine) oO ine] nN o date. And then you can just circle the name of the people that you just said. Just for the purposes of the documents that we discussed will be attached to the transcript of this. And it’s just to make sure that we have the right document. Thank you. We’1ll come back. MR. a: So I’m going to also present you with the roster for August 10, 2019. Can you do the same for us again? Identify the internal and the control officers? MR. ae : Do you want her to be specific though between the hours of 6:00 and 8:00 a.m.? MR. a : So between 10 p.m. and MR. a: I think the roster -. What’s the time that starts on the roster for August 10th? Midnight? MS. ae : Midnight. Yeah. MR. ae: So let’s identify from EFTA00114211

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wo wo that you were on. MR. QJ: 9 yeah. MS. ee : Okay. So I’m looking at the assignment roster for Saturday, August 10, 2019. The control number one officer was Ms. | who is non-custody. She works in the R&D - Receiving and Discharge department for - she was on overtime. For day watch, control number one is Officer aa. Control PY (Phonetic ) who was on overtime. For evening wm number two is Office it *00: watch, in the control one position there was Officer 7 and control two was Officer | who was also non-custody. MR. a : Now when they - when the SHU officers would call control for the counts during that shift, who is it that they would have called? And which counts would have been called? For that shift? I think you said that typically, actually it -- Typically -. works from 10:00 p.m. on their schedule it’s 12:00 to 8:00. MS. ee : Well the officers EFTA00114212

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ies) =] it) 1 were working those hour 2 MR. a : Okay. 3 MS. ee : The officers were 4 working -- 5 MR. a : So just the lieutenants 6 were different? 7 MS. QM: -- 12:00 to 8:00. its) a * fu t C bp Hh ot J oO hee 11 MS. QM: v0 8:00, 8:00 to to midnight. That’s correct. 3 MR. a : Okay. So who on the 4 schedule then when the special housing unit 5 officers would call in, who was it that th 16 would call into? 7 MS. ee : They would normally 8 call control two. Now this is not all- 7) wo inclusive because if control two is busy, 20 sometimes they would call control one. Because N ras control two would be you know sometimes N ho handling back-to-back calls. And plu 23 responsible for answering outside calls and 24 stuff to that nature as well. I mean when 25 people are calling in from eh outside, they EFTA00114213

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Ne] WwW Ne] WwW wo n't care if they miss count time or not. But the control number two officers work from 6:00 to 2:00 to 2:00 to 10:00. Those were their MS. ae : The day watch would shift as we call it. They work - or would work from would work 2:0 p.m. MS. ae : Well like I said, been calling because I worked morning watch. They would been calling -. There wouldn’t have been a control two -. MS. ee : Wait a minute. ioe) a EFTA00114214

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ow oO ~—] wo 10 12 13 14 say for instance the 12:00 p.m. count, the 3:00 a.m. count, and the 5:00 a.m. count. Who would have been called then on August 10th? MS. ae : They would have been calling control number one because I don't think they had, um -. They would have been calling -. I want to say they was calling control number one. Because at this time, it look like we had a control number two. Because there was a time when internal number two would fill in for the control number two. But it doesn’t look like this was during that time. MR. a : To your best guess, who of the officers in the special housing unit, who would have been called? For the 12:00, the 3:00, and the 5:00 a.m. counts, who would have been called on those? MS. ee : They would have been calling the control center number one. MR. QJ: nd who was that? MS. ee : During the 12:00 to 8:00 shift that would have been Officer | who, like I said, was on overtime. She’s non- custody. She works in the R&D department. EFTA00114215

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ies) Wo WwW a) * wu Hed f=] a ct ei i) 3 Ph fe) KR ct Zz ) n © 4 same counts, 12:00 a.m., 3:00 a.m., and 5:00 5 a.m., who from internal would have collected 6 those slips? 7 MS. ee : It could have been 8 either one of them. wo es) PJ fw 11 watch, it look like there was two. But I’m 2 trying to remember at that time if um -. 3 Because sometimes the internal two would assist 4 control because there were other things that ¢ 5 needed to be done. But have for internal 16 there on morning watch there was Officer | and Officer JMB (Phonetic Sp. *00:31:14) who 8 was on overtime. Officer || was on overtime wo for midnight to 8:00. So between those two, 20 would have been picking up the count N c MR. a : Just can you repeat those N nN a 23 two again? 24 MS ee : That’s internal would 25 have been Officer a. And internal number EFTA00114216

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Nh No N ine] N WwW wo WwW wo ie] Ww two was Officer ia. And he was on overtime. MR. a : Great. Thank you very Can you do the same with MR. ae : Just circle the names you know what I’m MS. ee : I’m putting the date MR. a: Yeah, I know. You want August 10th roster I’m 5 - oO rt a o going to mark as 2. And August 9th will be Exhibit 1. MR. a : I wouldn’t. this is -. If you’re doing exhibits, this is MR. ae: Alright. MR. a : If you want to do that. ct EFTA00114217

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ow oO ~—] wo Ww uw MR. a : Because we’re probably going to have to go back to this, I wouldn’t mark them as exhibits. MR. a: Okay. No problem. MR. a : Because this is always going to be Exhibit 1. MR. a: I understand. Just to clarify before we move forward. How many counts take place at the MCC? Daily? MS. ee : It depends. During the week we have the -. Let’s start with day watch. Day watch we have the 4:00 p.m. count. Evening watch we have the 10:00 p.m. count. Morning watch we have the 12:00 a.m., the 3:00 a.m., and the 5:00 a.m. So five. On weekends and holidays, we have an additional count of 10:00 a.m. which is added for weekends and holidays. MR. a: Okay. Thank you. So I’m going to go back and I’m going to continue reading from that spot. So I’m going to reread that line and we’1ll move forward. MR. a: In addition to the numbers being recorded and compared to the master list EFTA00114218

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10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 36 or E-1 sheet, the guards will call in or receive a call from internal and give a verbal record of the account and internal will compare that number to the number that they have on file and advise the count matches and is good or does not match and a count needs to be conducted again. You clarified that. You explained how the control and the internal works. The count slips prepared by the guards are then placed in the area for pickup by another guard assigned in the MCC and brought to control for review. In addition to the official counts that are to be conducted at specific times during each shift, [I | informed that the guards are also responsible for conducing rounds every 30 to 40 minutes. During the rounds, the guards simply walk the range and view that the prisoners are alive and in their cells with no issues. The number of prisoners is not recorded, but simply the fact that a round was conducted. And the officers who conducted it is. When asked, PY stated that she has no knowledge of rounds or counts not being conducted and that no one would tell her if that were the EFTA00114219

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S) N N No Nh wo WwW wo WwW As far as the rounds go, the rounds are irregular. So they’re not supposed to be done at 1@ time and there’s a reason for that. You know. rounds sed to be conducted - are usually conducted every hour and they’re done on an irregular basis. So that’s how the rounds are ed to be done. it’s not every 30 minutes? MS. its own set of rules as count goes but on the other units, and ev rounds are supposed to be irregular. MS. ee : They’re not supposed 30 minutes but it’s between 30 and 40 minutes? MS. ee : There’s a little EFTA00114220

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10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 38 hangover just for that -- MS. ee : -- so that the rounds can be irregular if you get tied up. Because when you’re making rounds, inmates will stop you. They will hold conversations with you and ask questions. You know and so it’s hard to keep those rounds within those guidelines because there’s always something to trip you up. When you’re making rounds you may notice something out of place, so that would stop you. But as far as those rounds getting conducted, those rounds are supposed to be conducted on an irregular basis. But do understand that there are things that will trip you up. So sometimes you may be on time. Sometimes you -. It’s hard to fall within those guidelines because you’re - it’s live time. Everything is alive. So you can’t predict what’s going to happen while you’re making your rounds. MR. a: Understood. And that was a summary of your interview. So as you can see, we have a few questions we want to follow -. MS. : | Right. MR. a: And we’ve got -. EFTA00114221

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ow oO wo wo MS. ae : You have medical emergencies. You have inmates that are complaining, wait until you start making your rounds to complain about being in pain or something that’s hurting them. Or a lot of general stuff. They’ll ask you questions just about anything when you’re making rounds. MR. a: Understood. mS. SE: vo-hom.. MR. a: I’m going to go back to my interview now and I have a few questions for you. If there were instructions of guidance from upper management, how would you receive them? MS. ee : It depends. During that time, they made -. Whoever was in the office may come and say something to the person in the office. And it was left up to everybody else to get that information from that individual. MR. a: Who was in the office at that point? I mean is a certain person assigned to the office or it could be anybody in the office? MS. QM: bike the lieutenant. EFTA00114222

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ow oO ~—] 10 11 12 13 14 17 18 19 Like a - when I say the office, I’m talking about like the lieutenants’ office. So sometimes they would just - and more often than not - they would just say something to whoever is in the office. And that’s how everybody is supposed to get that information. MR. a: If there were instructions from the lieutenants, who would give it? MS. ee : We would expect the captain to give it. MR. a: Did the instructions that would come from above the captain? Or was it always from the captain? MS. QS: mn... don't -. I mean, from time to time, some of the AWs would put things out. But the normal chain would be through the captain because that was our immediate supervisor. MR. a: Okay. If you had important details to discuss with your subordinates or COs who report to you, how would you communicate that to them? MS. ee: One more time. MR. a: If you had important details or instructions you wanted to discuss with your 40 EFTA00114223

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10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 subordinates or COs, correctional officers, who report to you, how would you communicate those instructions to them? MS. Ee : I usually did it when I made my rounds. And I would tell them. But you could also do a thing such as 3-3-3s. And that way, that’s when everybody come on the line and you could do it that way. But you really didn’t have time. It was easier to just tell everybody individually because that way you’re with them in person. and it’s just easier for you to do it at that time because if they had questions, then they could ask you questions. And when you’re doing over the phone at the hole, you’re sitting in the office. So you’re really not getting anything done, you know. At least if I’m making my rounds, I’m getting my rounds done and I’m doing my - passing down information to my staff at the same time. And also it lets me know that you got it. I’m telling you. it’s just you and me. There’s no distractions in the background. There’s nothing else going on. But it just depends on the person. MR. a: Okay. 41 EFTA00114224

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Ne] WwW WwW How would that come out? Would that verbally or would that be writte It depends on, like I delivering the information. It depended on that. MR. a: On August 9th when you came said you were re) 5] ro) a po Fh rt a c KR be a rt a fu rt jen rT] _ oO = ift August 9th nighttime? Morning watch? Do you remember? M 9th going into August 10th. MR. ae: Okay. don't know if I did to focus -. I don't know. So let’s talk so if you’re asking - EFTA00114226

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Ne] WwW Ne] WwW wo MR. ae: Yeah, that’s what I wanted to wu 7) peal MR. ae: So I just want to clarify. That day, I know you don't recall back on the What time did relieving me. I probably would ha left probably MR. MS. you happen to have heard if there was an 0 c fo a Or did that inmate being removed from eh MW day did Epstein die? Because I don't even remember what day he passed. MR. a : August 10th. EFTA00114228

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Ne] WwW Ww MR. QJ: Well that’s found. morning. when he was found August 10th MR. Friday mo 0) on 0) 0) Which would hav morning. riday morning, did the Then you left. And then about 8th 10:00 p.m. to 46 EFTA00114229

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Ne] WwW Ne] WwW 9 20 79 what They would notify me or the activities time what date depends. familiar with Inmate it , No problem. Now I’m going to Do you recall if Me rt tH] Oo 5 i) point he had Were you aware that commit suicide Yes. Do you recall around was? EFTA00114231

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ow oO oo wo wo 49 remember? Like a short summary what transpired? MS. ee : Um, we were called to the special housing unit. I think then we got there and Officer Thomas was working that day. When we got there, the officer informed us that an inmate had tried to hurt himself. So we go up to the cell and it’s Epstein. MR. QJ: «okay. MS. a : And he’s lying on the floor seemingly out of it I guess you could say. But when we tap him and we move him, we could see him kind of looking up at us. But then he would close his eyes like he didn’t want us to know that he was actually conscious. MR. QJ: 9 Okay. MS. ee : So we couldn’t get anything from him. He wouldn’t respond to us. But we knew that he was okay. He was breathing. And like I said, he would look up at us from time to time. When he didn’t think that we were looking at him. MR. a: Okay. MR. a : What happened after that? EFTA00114232

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wo wo observation? Or -? if he went I don't remember. I remember from suicide watch to don't suicide ops or straight back to the special suicide watch - where does second Second floor. What unit? Medical. Medical? to the medical It’s right out -. an extension unit slas a i] h -. At that time, we had - there was a u female housing unit there. So it’ ta adjacent to the female housing unit. But the second floor ide floor as from the housing is] And the psych unit. When Epstein was returned SHU. Do you recall any tructions being given by upper management, regarding Epstein being EFTA00114234

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ow oO ~—] wo 10 12 13 14 know if he had a cellmate or not to be honest with you. No. MR. a : And you’re not aware of any requirements of him having a cellmate either? MS. ee : I wasn’t even aware that they had sent out some information io) regarding the fact that he needed to have a cellmate. I would think that they would be - that that would be something that they would verbalize. MR. QJ: 9 Okay. MS. ee : That they would make sure that we individually -. That they would check to make sure that we all read that message. MR. QJ: 9 Okay. MS. ee : I mean if it was something that was critical -. Because he was on suicide watch. And because of the circumstances that surrounded him. I would expect for them to follow-up and make sure that we all read that email and we were all aware that he was to have a cellie. MR. a: Who would you expect to do that? wi o EFTA00114241

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ow oO wo wo MS. ae : I would expect for psychology to follow-up with us. I would expect for definitely the captain to get with us individually and tell us. MR. QJ: 9 Okay. MS. ee : Hold a lieutenant’s meeting or something to let us know that we were to make sure that he had a cellmate. MR. a: Okay. If - let’s say. Have you ever dealt with an inmate that required a cellmate before? MS. ee : Not directly, no. No. MR. a: But do you -? Okay. You never have. But if let’s say an inmate was required to have a cellmate. And that cellmate was removed for whatever reason. Do you know what the procedure would be? MS. ae : If an inmate was required to have a cellmate. And everybody knew. Because when you’re talking about an inmate that needs a cellmate, it’s not just the lieutenants who work with that inmate. The officers are the ones who are assigned to that inmate housing unit. Around the clock, 24/7. EFTA00114242

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10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 60 So you would definitely want that information. That should be an all staff email to be honest with you. Because that way everybody in the institution knows that there’s an important reason why that inmate needs a cellmate. And that way if at some point in time it’s not happening or there’s a lapse in that, everybody knows. So you’ve got - because you have staff making rounds around the institution on the housing units and all of that stuff all the time. You know. different members of the institution staff. So that would be an all staff email just to alert everybody in the institution that, you know, if you’re ever in that area and you come across this inmate and he doesn’t have a cellie, then you need to follow-up, ask why, make sure somebody knows that that inmate don't have a cellie. MR. a: I’m going to clarify. Based on the fact that based on what we - our investigation. Inmate Efren Reyes was assigned as a cellmate for Jeffrey Epstein. MS. Ee : Okay. MR. a: And he was required - according to psychology - he was required to EFTA00114243

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10 11 12 13 14 17 18 19 61 have a cellmate. Now Inmate Efren Reyes was removed from the MCC on August 93th morning during the day watch. Now based on - I’m going to read you the names again. Right. And you just tell me. You might not know it directly, but who would be responsible to take what action when they found out that Efren Reyes was removed. If there was a requirement, that Epstein had to have a cellmate at all times, and his cellmate was removed, who would be responsible to take action? And I’m going to mention the names. Let me know what their role would have been and what action they should have taken. MS. ee : You’re telling -. You want me to tell you that. That’s if in fact they knew -. MR. a: Yeah. If in fact they knew. MS. ee : Yeah. If in fact they knew that he was supposed to have a cellie. MS. ee: You know. Not assuming that he had a cellie. MR. a : And so we don't have to EFTA00114244

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oO) No 1 go back and circle back to this. Not only - so 2 if he’s naming a name, say what action should 3 have they taken and who should have told them 4 the information with regard to the need to have 5 a cellmate. 6 MS. ee : Well I would have to know what position those officer 8 MR. a : Sure. MS. ae : -- at the time that QO this occurred also. Because -. n S wu jon | | wo 11 MR. ae: We can hand you the roster 5 MR. ae: But just start with 16 (Indiscernible *00:58:18). 7 MR. a : Again, so he was removed 8 from his cell let’s say around 8:30 a.m. and I wo think he was removed from the institution 20 somewhere around 1:30 p.m. So 8:30 is when he N c o 5 rt to a court. And then by 1:30 he was gone. N ho 5 They were pretty much N a notified he’s not coming back. Nh 7) Mm. ine] uw a So I’ll start with Captain EFTA00114245

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ow oO oo wo wo Oo WwW a. MS. ee : Yes. Captain | should have known. MR. a : How would he have known? Who should have made him aware of it? MR. a : Let’s just - instead of going through it, let’s just first start with going from the bottom up. Who should have known that he was removed? And how should the chain of command have gone up? Looking at that duty schedule roster. MR. aa: Yeah. Based on that. Who should have initially known that he was removed? MS. QMM:.- ie 1 R&D should have known initially that the inmate was removed. Now whether or not they would have known that he was Epstein’s cellie is something different. MR. QJ: 9 Okay. MS. QM: Like 1 said, if this information had put out because Epstein was a high-profile inmate. He had just attempted suicide. That should have been an all-staff email. That should have alerted everybody. And not only that, but when that happens. EFTA00114246

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10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 64 First of all, when Epstein originally arrived to the MCC, Epstein should have been placed on 10 South. That’s our - what they consider the maximum-security unit here. He never should have been placed on 10 South anyway because you’re not guaranteed that anybody in this building is going to maintain a cellie because it’s an administrative institution. Inmates come and go all the time. So there’s - they don't have a sentence date. And with that said, that means that at any point and time while we’re sitting here, the courts can release somebody and that inmate is gone right now. So to put out an email to certain individuals and not make that an all-staff email so that it would -. And I guess we have to back and say what was the intentions of that? If it’s something that you feel is concerning and that absolutely needs to happen because you still feel that this inmate is at risk, then you say to yourself, well why is he being released from suicide watch? Or psych ops. Why, you know? If you feel that this inmate still needs this type of supervision. And if the answer to that is yes, he still EFTA00114247

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10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 needs that type of supervision, then you would recommend that, you know, why don't you keep him?? Why aren’t you maintaining him? You know. On watch? If he requires that type of supervision? Or why - since you didn’t do it to begin with - which they should have done. Considering he was high-profile, he was an at- risk inmate, just the fact that he was a high- profile inmate, he should have been placed on 10 South. After he attempted suicide and they determined that they was going to remove him from that and required him to have a cellie. Then they should have either made it an all- staff email, made sure everybody was aware - everybody. Not just -. And it’s difficult because people are on days off, people are on vacation, people are on sick leave, you see what I’m saying? MR. a: Okay. MS. Ee : So for somebody like Epstein. Epstein should have automatically gone to 10 South where he would have had 24- hour monitoring on him at all times. MR. a: Okay. Assuming that the CO - Let’s start with the COs. Assuming the COs 65 EFTA00114248

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wo wo 20 N ras N Nh N a Nh Nh uw in the SHU knew that this was a requirement. In day watch. If he was removed at 8 , who is responsibility would it have been to notify ee : It would have been any of their responsibility if they were there at the time and they were aware that he was being moved or if they knew that he was even supposed to have MR. a: So who was the COs on for the SHU? MS. ee : Day watch on August 9th would have been Officer J, Officer MR. QJ: Okay. And what would - if they knew that Eps ein was required to cellmate, what should they have done? MS. QM: tf they knew that Epstein required a cellie, and his cellie was released, if tt knew he wasn’t coming back. I mean I don’t know if they knew that when the cellie left that he was never coming back. I don't know what any of these people were told. Oo) nn EFTA00114249

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ow oO wo 10 12 13 14 So I’m just assuming here. If his cellie was released, and they knew for a fact that he wasn’t coming back, and if they knew that he was supposed to have a cellie, which I doubt. Because I didn’t even know it. So -. MR. a: Let’s just assume they knew. Let’s just go from there. If they knew. MS. ee : Then one of them should have called. MR. a: Called who? MS. ee: The captain, psychology, the lieutenant’s office. One of them. MR. a: Okay. And let’s just say they called the lieutenant’s office. What would the lieutenant’s office have done? MS. ee : They would have followed up. They would have been like okay, if they didn’t know already, they would have determined what’s the status of this cellmate. What is -? Is he coming back? They probably would have moved Epstein out of that cell or immediately put another inmate in the cell with him. MR. a: Okay. EFTA00114250

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wo wo oO) o MS. ae : But when you're talking about somebody like Epstein, you can’t just put any inmate in that cell with Epstein. So you know, you kind of have to seek guidance on that and tell - let somebody know what you have going on so they can determine who they Hb want in the ce 0 l with Epstein. Which is why it goes back to 10 South. That’s why he should have been on 10 South because you can’t. He’s not one of those inmates that you can just put anybody in his cell with him. MR. ae: Who would you have - seek guidance from? MS. EN: =e 77) hal s a lieutenant? MR. a: To assign - get a new inmate for Epstein. Who do you think? Because you said he’s high profile. Who would you have -? MS. QM: would have informed the captain -- MR. QJ: 9 Okay. ee: -- that you know the cellie that he had had been released and asked MS him you know how do you want us to move EFTA00114251

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wo wo 24 forward? MS. ee : Who do you want the SHU officers to place in that cell with him? MR. a: So as per whoever the CO hould report it to the lieutenant or th h- 7) oO captain and they would have brought it up and someone higher up should have assigned a cellmate. that he was supposed to have had a cellmate and based upon that email that I just saw for the first time, I’m sure they didn’t - in this group here. Or they would have contacted somebody. that. They would have told somebody. If they knew th would have definitely reported it to somebody. And um -. fea) io EFTA00114252

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Nh No N N WwW wo WwW wo Ww MR. ae: How soon should have an inmate been assigned to that cell? Normally, what’s the procedure? How soon after would wu 7 ie] quick as MR. a: I’m not going to go through explained this from the bottom up. We just wanted to clarify MR. a: I’m going to move on. Did you conduct on August 9th evening from 10:00 p.m. to August 10th the next day? Did conduct any rounds in the SHU during you recall? What count or rounds did you do in EFTA00114253

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WwW Ww MS. ae : I don't remember what rounds. MS. a : I think it was probably mid-morning I think. What do you mean by rounds? D you mean did I cond ant rou morning night. I was running s clarify this mid-morning. MR. a: Mid-morning you mean EFTA00114254

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~l No 1 That sounds about right. N Fs Okay. Ww 5 Now I just have two 4 questions. Why do COs have to conduct rounds? 6 inmates are safe. That they’re still ke sure that the Fit} breathing. That there is nothing illegal or 8 unauthorized going on inside the institution. wo Just to make sure that everything is okay. have to conduct counts? To account for all 3 the inmates. 5 condi ct counts and rounds? \o 7) K @ (a) b ct if) ue] 12] pa = is] kK 20 MR. QJ: Okay. And you explained in 21 your previous interview about who is 22 responsible for conducting the rounds. As a 23 supervisor, you mentioned in ur previous 24 interview that the supervisor should als 25 conduct one round per -. One count or one EFTA00114255

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uw fo) 10 11 12 13 14 17 18 19 round? I mean what are they -? MS. ee: Each lieutenant is required to make rounds during their shift. Whether that be the operations lieutenant or whether that be the activities lieutenant. Just a lieutenant. It doesn’t have to be both. If I’m operations lieutenant and I have an activities lieutenant assigned, both of us don't have to make rounds. The lieutenant - a lieutenant just have to make rounds during each respective shift. MR. a: Is there specific units that they have to go to or can it be anything? MS. QM:_—_tiomean if you're making rounds, the idea is to go to each housing unit. MR. a: Okay. MS. ee : Now depending on what you have going on during the night, sometimes you may get that done. Sometimes you don't. I mean there may be a lot going on at the institution that you may not get around to making the rounds done during your shift. MR. a: Okay. I want to take a quick detour. I’m going to show you two documents. 73 EFTA00114256

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Nh No wo Ne] WwW wo computation o all the housing units Can you find unit, it would this time - on be ZA. And the August 10, 2019 can flip thro units. Well it and how many in the count for special housing ir count is - at at OC EFTA00114258

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N N No S) wo WwW wo WwW will Kee Do y midn with disc the it 5 If you flip throu tell you there might be more documents. who did the counts. ou recall who -? on the document, tell me who did the count for the SHU? h SHU unit - ZA or ZB - was Epstein housed MS. ae : Epstein was in ZA. MR. QJ: 992A. And who did the ight? MS. ee : There was an issue the count at midnight. MR. a: What was the issue? MS. ee : There was an inmate they had removed from the unit and he was he was being housed in the receiving and harge in one of the holding cells in R&D on third floor. And -. Fernand MS. ae : I don't know what. if that was MS. ee : I don't remember what 7 EFTA00114259

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ow oO oo wo wo ~] ~ MR. QJ: 9 Okay. MS. ee : But they were for some reason -. I want to say. I don't know if he was on dry cell or what his status was. MR. QJ: 9 was -? MS. ee : I don't think he was on suicide watch. I can’t remember. MR. QJ: vou : cell. Is that in R&D? MS. a : No. That’s not in R&D. Usually dry cell is done in the special n aid dry cell. Now dry housing unit. So I can’t remember what his status was but he was -. I can’t remember if he was on dry cell or if he was on - if that was an extension of the suicide watch. I can’t remember, but there was an inmate down there. And he was being housed down there with the watch on that particular night. And they were counting him on the unit because they hadn’t received any guidance as to how he was going to be counted. Because R&D, mind you, is the intake unit. It’s not a housing unit. MR. a: Okay. MS. ee : So inmates are theoretically are not supposed to be staying - EFTA00114260

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wo wo N Nh N a Nh ine] Their count was originally 73. But then you have an inmate in RA from special housing. Okay. So that would bring because this inmate -. This is an outcount. You do an outcount when an inmate is in a different area than where he is housed. ~ lwo inmates. If 73 is your base, if you’ve got an inmate from that area on outcount, then that’s not a good count. let’s get it right. Right. So the count. So According to the records, how many inmates should have been at the 12:00 p-m. count. How many inmates should have been :00 a.m. -m. Sorry. Well that depends because when they initially did this, that’s It wasn’t how they was counting the inmates. until I started doing that count that I ~ s] EFTA00114262

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ow oO oo wo wo 80 realized that something wasn’t right. So that’s how we got around to there’s an inmate in R&D. You know that’s being housed down there on watch. You know. That’s how we got to that. So it’s like oh, so there’s an inmate in R&D. You know. And then you start asking questions. Why is he there? What’s the deal with him? Because none of this information was passed down. MR. QJ: 9 Okay. MS. ee: So I’ve got to ask the staff what’s going on. MR. a: I’m going to clarify. I’m going to go back. My question is at midnight, € who did the count for the SHU? MS. a : According to this, it says Thomas and Noel. MR. QJ: 9 Alright. If they did the count and how many people are supposed to do the count? MS. ee : Two. At least two MR. a: Two. If they went through the SHU and they did a head count, right. How many people should they have down? MS. NN: 9 they should have EFTA00114263

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10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 81 gotten 72. But what I’m telling you is when this count was done, they were counting this inmate that was in R&D on that count because no one had told them that the inmate was actually somewhere else. And he was being counted in that area. So they were logging -. So what I understand - and that’s how they understood it. That that inmate was being carried on to their count. MR. a : Even though they didn’t get eyes on the inmate? Even though they don't know physically. If they physically cannot see the inmate, they’re allowed to put it in their count? MS. : Because the inmate is being ghosted. They could call R&D and ask and say he is the inmate there. Because there was a staff member on the inmate. The problem was not how many inmates they had or what’s counted. The problem was the status of this inmate that was in R&D. MR. a: Okay. MS. Ee : They didn’t’ know the status of the inmate in R&D whether he was going to be -. Whether he was staying there EFTA00114264

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10 11 12 13 17 18 19 altogether or how they were supposed to indicate him on their count slip. They didn’t know any of that. That wasn’t until they brought this to my attention. And this was the original count slip. There was another count slip that they supposed to have been completing. And place that in the Sally port, but apparently nobody picked it up. So this was the original count slip that was submitted. MR. a: Okay. MS. ee: But they were supposed to -. Once we corrected this issue, with the dude in - with the guy in R&D and put him on an outcount. And place him in R&D, then they were supposed to go back, recount. They were supposed to recount and then they was to submit another count slip. MR. a: Okay. That’s what I’m getting to. MS. a : Yes. MR. a: So who found out that there was an error with the count? Did they notify you or did you found -? Ms. QIN: «Right. Right. When they called. I think we kind of hashed it out 82 EFTA00114265

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oO oo wo o ine) Oo wo ine] together. MR. a: Okay. MS. ee : You know because they were saying that they had an inmate that was not on the unit. And they was like well what do we do? MR. a: Okay. MS. ee : Because I gue don't know what had happened, but they knew Ss 7) that the guy wasn’t on the unit. So they was trying to get it corrected. MR. aa: Okay. MS. ee : And of course we started asking questions. Where is this inmate at? What is he doing there? How long he’s been there. Dah-dah-dah-dah. But again, this is count time. So you’ve just got to do the best you can because we’ve got a count to clear. You know. MR. QJ: 9Do you recall. Sorry. You had a question. MR. a : I just want to make sure that we’re clear. So did they call in 73 without saying this is 73 with a guy that’s not “ actually here. Or did they just call in 73 and EFTA00114266

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wo WwW wo WwW MR. a : So that’s a good answer. So he - so Thomas is the one who called that 103) count? Rather than Noel? Thomas. I don't think I spoke to Noel about the count. MR. a : So you don't remember MR. ae : -- believe it was Thomas. MS. ee : And I said well how many inmates do you have on your unit right now? How many bodies? And he said 72. And I said well let me call because I need to call and make sure that this other body is wh i] re it’s supposed to be. I need to see this body. I need to make sure someb: -. I need to know what’s going on with this body. Is a er 7) 3son sitting on it? Is this guy somewhere in a room by himself? MR. a : Okay. And you EFTA00114269

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wo Ne] WwW wo go back. Go back around. And then send me a new count slip. did the MS. ee : I don't know if they did a recount because like I said -- MR. | : Okay. MS. ee : -- I was in the process. I had to continue with count. I had to verify and get some information o rding this inmate in R&D. But I didn’t do the Now what count? Or just fill out a new count slip? ructed them to do fos) EFTA00114270

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Nh No N S) N WwW wo WwW wo Ww co co new count. Just to make sure. MR. a : So you told them to actually do a new count? I told them to th instructions you provided to Thomas - or a male. You don't know specifically if it was a said, you know, what did you all count. He said we counted 72. And I like well you count again. your count slip and just send me slip. Because I’m going to - while I verify and Noel - you believe it to have been Thomas. MS. EFTA00114271

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oo wo co wo figure out whether or not -. I want to know whether or not this guy is actually in SHU. mS. ): or sum, in Rad. So I’m like you know just count again and make in case. I’m saying tom not saying this to him. I’m thinking to myself, just in case, I called. And there’s nobody down there. I wanted to make sure that this is actually the count. MR. a : And I want to make sure so that something else is clear. When you as a lieutenant are conducting rounds, that you’re required once per shift, that’s rounds for employees. Not conducting rounds with the COs for inmates. So is your round to go around to your employees to make sure? That’s your round? opposed to participating in a count or a round with the conducting of inmates? Do you follow -- MS. ee: We’re not -. MR. a : -- what I’m asking MS. ee : We are not required EFTA00114272

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10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 to go to each individual cell and look at the inmates. When we make rounds, we get with the officers. We make sure that -. I mean if we choose to do that we can. But -. MR. a : But there’s no requirement. For your requirement, that one per shift of round. That’s to do rounds with your officer - or with your staff - as opposed to conducting a round with them. MS. ee : No. There was nothing here said to us or in policy telling us that we needed to go around -- MS. QM: --— on each housing unit to each individual cell and check on the inmates. If we chose to do that based upon something that we knew wasn’t right or something that we had heard or something like that during the course of our shift. Then that - and we felt as though we needed to double check on it. Because our officers are our eyes and ears. And during that time, we didn’t’ have a whole lot of time. We would spend half of our shift just trying to fill overtime. At that time. 90 EFTA00114273

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N WwW wo WwW fee} wo MR. a : So are you supposed to though? So if they do a count, are you supposed to do a count with them during your we’re required to do as a lieutenant. MR. a : One count with inmate control center. not putting -. You’re never inmates doing a count with -. 3:00 a.m. count, and a 5:00 a.m. count. Are you doing any counts with them? MS. ae : No I’m not doing a . ee : I’m not - and it wouldn’t be for just SHU. It would 1] EFTA00114274

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wo Ne] WwW wo MS. ae : I have no - I can’t answer that. I don't know. show you the 10 - two more documents. Let’s do MR. ae: And what’s the count for RA? moved prior to this count, to R&D, would technically the count for the SHU have been ousing unit. So no officer would have been moving an inma to RA on their own. wo uw EFTA00114278

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wo wo io nn Something -. MR. ae: Okay. MS. ee : There had to have been some guidance that - whereby they was told because this inmate was there all night with a watch on h inmate? The one in MS. ae : The inmate that was inmate had a watch. There was a staff member on the inmate. You can’t -- MR. QJ: 9=owhat was the watch for? MS. a : -- just put an inmate in R&D and just leave him there. There’s nobody to watch him. R&D staff 10:00. So you can’t just leave an inmate there with nobody watching him. MR. a: So -. Maybe I’m saying this wrong. I’m just trying to get clarification. When you do - when a CO does a count - can they account - but in the count - can they account for an inmate that they do not get their eyes EFTA00114279

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ow oO wo wo ~ wo on? MS. ee : Depending on who gave them the instruction as to how that inmate was going to be accounted for. MR. QJ: 9owhat about? ay - if od 4 107) H a) ct om wu ct | i] that. If that inmate was in R&D at the 10:00 count, depending on how they were guided because I mean they know that an inmate can’t be in R&D by himself either. So depending on how that inmate was being counted, they may have been given instructions by somebody to ghost him. And count him in SHU. I don't know. I can’t explain that. vn. : not per policy, COs have the ability to do o COs have the ability it’s 1) that? MR. a: To do what? MR. a: If they don't have eyes on, if they can get instructions from another person saying no, report it as your count? MS. ae : That would have to be someone in their chain of command that would advise them to do that. MR. a : Who? Do you know? EFTA00114280

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wo wo oO o MS. ae : It would be someone over the lieutenant’s head because no lieutenant is going to - that I knew at the time - that I worked with at the time - would have an inmate in a different area knowing that inmate was not going to be coming back to that housing unit. MR. a: So the key right now is we don't know when the inmate was moved. Right? MS. a : I don't know when. I ell you when the inmate was moved. This ~ t ct can’t happened before I got there. What specific time he was moved, I don't know. MR. a: Let’s say the inmate was moved and they didn’t’ get the authorization from the captain. Would the account have been wrong? MS. ee : I don't -. You know ar as I know, it could have been someone rh a if] above the captain. I don't know. I can’t provide you with an adequate answer because -- MR. a: No problem. MR. a : We’re going to go past that. MS EFTA00114281

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wo Ve} 1 MR. ae: So I’m going to show you. 2 This is just for clarification purposes, just 3 for our records. I’m going to show you one 4 more document. What is F? ust 9, 2019. The time is1541. that should be the Ne] WwW 8 MR. a: Okay. And what is outcount? its) Cc 5] | ct fs) wu ie ie ff t S oO KR bh 2 t ~ (D Rk 0 al oO 24 of EFTA00114282

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1 MS. ae : Yes. Thomas and 5 MR. a: Okay. And everything was 6 good? Did they say have any complaints or ng like that? 8 MS. ee : No. They were fine. a : Do you recall your wo AJ 11 MS. QM: ts don't recall my 2 conversation with them, but I spoke to them for 3 a minute because I stopped there. I went up to 4 10 South and I made my rounds up there. And I 5 came back and I spoke with them again before I 6 left. 7 MR. a : So you spoke with them 8 twice? MS. ee : Yeah. I spoke with 20 them initially. And I told them you know when wo 21 get back out -. I’m going to run up to 10 22 South and make my rounds and sign my books and N WwW n rt c Ph Hh is ue] ct a o K o And then I’1l get back with 24 you guys I’1l come back on my way down. 25 Because I needed to sign their round sheets. EFTA00114285

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wo wo MR. ae: Now you mentioned that you don't know - you never heard of the requirement for Epstein needing a cellmate. Right? MR. a: So you didn’t know. According to what you said before, you didn’t even know the COs knew that requirement. MS. QJ: tf 0 didn’t know, 1 know they didn’t know. And according to that because I don't even see -. Where is that email? Because I want to see who did they actually send that to. If it s on the email who they sent that to. MR. a : It looks like they sent it up to all the officers, lieutenants and. rvation update. MR. a : So on or around July 30th, Epstein came off of the suicide 0) ays suicide observation and was placed back into the SHU. And this was supposed to be the email saying that he was required to have a cellmate while he was in the SHU. MS. ee : Yeah, but this isn’t EFTA00114286

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wo Ne] WwW wo MYM all. This is only addressed to suicide - whoever is in that s like a group that up. Because I never ard of that group before. Suicide wa MR. ae: You never got the email from ct om 0 people that they I guess placed in that -- MS. ae : That they placed in that group. 104 EFTA00114287

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ow oO wo wo officers? Specific staff? Because I can assure you that’s not all of them. MR. a : That’s not all of them. Yeah. So I don't know how they actually chose it. But you said you know you were on it but you don't recall receiving it. MS. ee : I do not recall receiving that. MR. ae : Now do you know -? I don't know how it works here. I mean are you in front of your computer? Do you read your emails? How is that? MS. es : During that time, I will be honest with you. I didn’t have time to read any emails because in addition to not having a lot of staff, we had a bunch of incidents that were going on during that time as well. MR. QR: Okay. MS. QM: 8s bunch of body alarms and stuff like that that was going on. And because of the fact that we were so short- handed, you didn’t have time to read emails and stuff at the time. You just had too much to do with the time in your shift. It was just way EFTA00114288

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Nh No wo Ne] WwW wo too much. MS. ee : It was way too much. MS. ee : I got a lot of emails > s it work -? Just can ly on you know if Reyes the cellie. Did you know that Epstein had a cellmate? had a cellmate. MR. a : So you didn’t even know he had a cellmate at all? had a cellmate or not. MS. ae : When all of thi happened, it of course later came out that he 7) had a cellmate and the inmate was removed. But ry) ar me having personal knowlec w 7) as 106 EFTA00114289

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oo wo ho WwW wo 107 whether or not he had a cellmate, I didn’t know if he had a cellmate or not. I assumed he had MR. a : Now being that you know they sent this email. You said who should have advised you at least at 7] om o point, hey he needs a cellmate. Where was the communication breakdown there? MS. ae : It wasn’t just me. It should have been everybody. MR. a : Sure. So what my question is though, who is responsible for that? MS. ee : The - you would think that psychology would have called us or somebody should have been making sure. MR. a: Okay. So let’s go through that. From psychology, who should - who dropped the ball here? MS. ae : Well I’m not going to say anybody dropped the ball because it’s all about responsibilities to -. MR. a : But somebody - psychology I guess made the note. So is it the person that’s on the email, this a: (Phonetic Sp. *01:39:47) Should have she gone Oo EFTA00114290

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ow oO oo wo wo around and aside from sending this email should have she spoken to people or had a meeting? What should have happened? communicate -. Like I said originally. My whole thing was Epstein should have been placed on 10 South to begin with because he was that type of inmate that checked all the boxes for - MR. Ee : Sure. MS. ee : -- someone that should have been placed on 10 South. MR. Ee : And that’s going to be one of my follow-up questions is what the difference between the SHU and 10 South. But specifically to this, like what should have psychology done differently? MS. ae : I would have made sure - I just would have -. I just would have made sure that everybody -. I never even would have sent Epstein back to -. I would have never even put him back in that position again. MR. a : So if he had -. MS. ee : If he had a cellmate EFTA00114291

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oo wo wo 109 because even saying that he had a cellmate. Even telling somebody that he should have had a cellmate. Still wouldn’t have prevented him from trying to harm himself. We had just went through that. MR. es : Sure. MS. ee : We - that was a scenario when they got him. That got to the memo being done. 5. RS: vou know?) He hada cellmate then. MR. a : The other lieutenants though in this case, they knew that he was required to have a cellmate. Correct? According to -- MR. QJ: 9 Yes. MR. a : -- there? So it sounds - From reviewing the other interviews, it looks like you were the one that didn’t know. everyone else knew. Do you know why that would have been? Who should have made sure you knew that he needed a cellmate? MS. ee : I would think whoever knew that he needed an inmate. EFTA00114292

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oO oo wo o ine) Oo wo ine] 110 MR. a : So that’s what I’m saying. Everyone else know. So like all the other lieutenants and the captain. They all said that they were aware that he was required to have a cellmate. So the question -. So I don't know if they got the information from the email, if there was an all-hands. Who should have made sure that you knew that he had a cellmate? MS. a : Okay. So if they knew that. If everybody is saying that they knew he should have had a cellmate, then why didn’t he have one? MR. a : That’s the -. MS. ee : How did we get to MR. a : That’s the reason why we’re talking with you. That is the big issue of why didn’t he have one? Who? Where was the communication breakdown? MS. ee : I don't know. MR. a : So should have the captain told you that? Should have the person who relieved you that day? Should have that person told you? Hey just so you know, Epstein EFTA00114293

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S) Nh Nh No ine] N WwW wo 7) WwW wo WwW 111 MS. ee : It would have been nice to have when I got relieved for someone to have said yeah, by the way, we got this email saying that we were notified requires to have a cellmate. Yeah. That would have been real helpful. MR. a : So looking at the Friday, August 9th. Was it -? It looks like a. Was that the person who reliev ops lieutenant? It looks like he was the ops MS. ee : You relieved him. I would It was August 9th. MS. ee : Yeah. That would have been who I would have relieved. MR. a: Or he would have reliev you. Correct? Because that’s August 9th. You started August 10th at 12:00 a.m. So let’ ifs] how it shows here. MS. ee : I would have relieved EFTA00114294

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112 1 this was 9th 2 And -™m. 3 that would relieved 6 him. I would have co K o should 0 told 1 MS. ee : I would - I mean -. iow would then -? Or Ww 4 So I’m assuming he would have been the one? me tell you 6 something. In the real world in a real 7 institution that was running in the manner in 8 which it should. 9 MR. 20 MS. 21 have -- wrong. EFTA00114295

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Ww Ww MR. a : Let’s get this place up to running as best as possible. for anybody. MR. MS re is that at that particular time MR. SR: 9 e-hoon. MS. ee : Um....this inc when we 113 EFTA00114296

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10 11 12 13 14 16 17 18 19 20 22 23 24 were finding shanks every - an unusual amount of shanks, cell phones, drugs. Inmates were going out of their mind on drugs and all this other stuff. We had inmates fighting, inmates getting stabbed, inmates getting slashed. There were -. In addition to everything else that we had to take care of. We were doing uses of forces. We didn’t’ have adequate staff to even do a use of force or even to respond to a body alarm a lot of times. There were incidents where we as lieutenants were the only people here and had to do things. So -. MR. a : So there’s just overwhelming -. You guys were just completely overwhelmed. In the weeds. MS. a : We -. At that time, there was just so much going on. MR. QM: Right. MS. QM: You would be hell- bent to stay abreast of every little thing that was going on. You just -. When your relief came, you know, you was like let me get some fresh air. MR. a : Just let me -. In this circumstance. We’re going to try to reign it EFTA00114297

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wo wo 24 MR. a : What the difference between -- MS. ae : -- that’s how -- MS. ee : -- important it is. MR. ae : So what’s the difference between 10 MS. ae : The difference between SHU is for general o rr 12] guarantee have a cellie there. You know. So you may have a cellie and Epstein was a high-profile inmate. All high- profile inmates they usually assign to 10 he te o 5 ion i) rh 2) 5 om South. Epstein had just -. J committed suicide. Everybody knew and that’s not just here. That’s people in the region. You know all the up to Donald Trump kn Epstein was here. You know. And when at Donald Trump all the way down the line, you know, to the regional director, the a correctional services u administrator. All those 119 EFTA00114302

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120 in where Epstein was placed when he got here. Now that 3 you know because they failed to do their job, 4 you know, and place him on 9 he 5 never should have 6 MR. ae : Nine South or 10? Oh 7 they put him in 9 South. to begin with. fu WwW 6 Those to - things of that nature. 8 MR. QM: so --.. EFTA00114303

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10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 121 there -. And I’m telling you he should have been put up there from day one. Most especially after he attempted suicide. So if you didn’t place him up there from day one. When he attempted suicide with a cellmate. Okay? Let’s not forget that because when he attempted suicide, he had a cellmate. MR. QJ: yeah but isn’t the reason why he didn’t - wasn’t successful partly because of the cellmate? My understanding was because once you’re - once you commit suicide, you want another person to try to prevent it from actually a suicide being successful. So if they want someone in there to basically watch him, wouldn’t they want him in the SHU versus 10 South? MS. Ee : You’re not guaranteed that -. MR. QJ: You’re not guaranteed but I think that the purpose of him being required a cellmate was that they want someone in there. And that’s why they wanted him vetted. Because the purpose was so that someone could be watching him partly. If he’s trying to hang himself, there’s obviously going to be another EFTA00114304

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oO oo wo o ine) Oo wo ine] MS. ae : We shouldn’t have had Sure. ae : You know. Trying to watch an inmate. And when all those circumstances that was going on, there was a lot of things that we should have been doing n that wasn’t done. So it’s not just about what happened to Epstein. It’s about everything else surrounding his death that occurred that didn’t happen. MR. ae : That’s one point. MS. ee : That should have been occurring that didn’t happen. MR. a: Okay. Now let’s - I’m going to take it out. Let’s say you’re on shift. if) Inmate attempted to commit suicide. You know ’'s an issue with the inmate. You’re there leaving the shift. Do you have a conversation with the person you’re relieving - I mean whoever’s relieving you? Do you have a conversation with that person and advise them what happened during your shift? MS. ee : Yes. I would -. MR. QJ: 9=owhy?) why would you do it? EFTA00114309

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10 11 12 13 14 16 17 18 19 20 22 23 24 Just to reason -. MS. ee: Because look. Let me explain something to you. MR. a: No-no-no. I just need an explanation. MS. ee : No-no-no. I’m going to give you an explanation. But I’m going to give you the explanation that best suits the question that you’re -- MR. a: Okay. MS. ee: -- asking me. When we do these pass downs, everybody is different. Some people tell you verbatim everything that happened. Some people don't. That’s just the nature of the beast. You know. I could sit here all day and say somebody should have told me something. Or you know if they had the information. But when you’ve got so many things on your mind and you’ve dealt with so many things during the course of the day, you know, people don't want to continue to stand there and do it. People forget. I mean they could have been standing there talking to me for five minutes with all the things that go on during the course of the day. You know. EFTA00114310

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ow oO wo wo 128 That’s not just here. That’s every place I’ve been when it comes to pass down. Some people will tell you a bunch of stuff depending on when it happened during the course of the day and whatever else came behind it or came before it. People they -- MR. a: No, I understand that. No- no. I just -. MS. ee : -- don't always remember. MR. a: I get that. But let’s just say as Agent | already mentioned. If there was instructions form the captain down and the lieutenant. Let’s say Lieutenant || was aware of the instructions and was clear instructions that Epstein had to have a cellmate. And he knew that the cellmate was removed. What was -. Let’s just say ina perfect world. What was his role? When he left the shift. What should he have done? MS. ee : || would have -. MR. a: No-no-no. It’s not “would have.” What should he have done? MS. ee : They would have already had -. If you’re telling me that this EFTA00114311

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uw fo) 10 11 12 13 14 17 18 19 ine] uw that inmate was never coming back. Depending on that, they should have questioned to see what was the circumstances surrounding that. When they determine what the circumstances were based upon the fact that if he was coming back or whether or not he wasn’t coming back, then they should have made arrangements for him to get another cellie. MR. a: Okay. I’m done. Can I see the roster one more time? MR. ee : Yeah. And then let’s stay specific to your instance so we don’t have to ask you like what should have they done? So as far as yours. If you - and again you weren’t. But if you were aware that he was required to have a cellmate. Was there any action that you should have or could have taken between the hours that you were working? mS. MS: «tf i -~. MR. QJ: Could cell mates have been reassigned at that time of night? MS. ae : Morning watch is not the time to be moving inmates around because it presents too much of a safety issue. 130 EFTA00114313

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ow oO wo 10 12 13 14 you’re saying is he should have notified the captain and he should have made sure a cellmate was put in there. If | knew, same thing. He should have notified the captain, he should have put someone there. If you knew, you should have notified the caption, you should have put someone there. That’s just the kind of what the ops lieutenant does. Would it be basically the ops lieutenant if it came up to that person? They notify the captain. They make sure it’s done. Is that a fair assessment? MS. es : Yeah. That’s a fair assessment. And you’re just notifying - and the only reason why we’re letting the captain know is to let him know. Hey, you know you guys we keep telling you this guy should be on 10 South, but you keep him on SHU. And we keep running into these close - really, really, close calls. MR. a : So the staff -. MS. ae : So that’s one reason MR. a : Is the staff ever -? MS. ae : -- you notify them. EFTA00114317

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10 11 12 13 14 16 17 18 19 MR. a : Did you ever have any discussions about him needing to be 10 South with anyone prior to -? MS. ae : Everybody was telling them that he needed to be on 10 South. Everybody knew that. MR. a : Alright. So prior to him even dying, you know, prior to August 10th. It was the captain and above were notified, hey we need to get him on 10 South? MS. ee: Let me tell you something. If we as lieutenants are responsible for knowing everything that we’re supposed to know. and we’re running this institution off the cuff, we don't know what’s going to happen here at any given time of the day or night. If we’re required to know that, you think that these cats in the region and in the central office and at the executive staff level don't know the same thing that or more than we know? MR. a : So I guess the question is have you ever had any conversation - did you ever have any conversations with the caption yourself at that time? 135 EFTA00114318

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Ne] WwW WwW is] just meant. Did you say like did he acknowledge at least that information that was provided to him? Hey, he should be on 10 South? MS. QM: ts don't know if he MR. QJ: «Bo you do telling him that? MR. a : But you yourse at least on one occasion or more that MS. ee : Yeah. I mentioned to 10uld be on 10 uth. Yes MS. ae : I don't know what the date was MR. a : I just mean prior to him dying you told him this? EFTA00114320

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wo wo N ins) ine] r Ww N : Nh Nh uw Yes. Prior to him i dying. And after he died. I mean. MR. a : Okay. Sorry, I’1l hand it back over to you. I apologize for hijacking. MR. a: Do you have anything else on that topic? Because I’m going to jump through MR. a : No. The main things, again, are these about the email. wasn’t received. The cellmate requirements which she said that she didn’t. who was ibl a res U 03) oO pon for telling her that? What action should have been taken. What did she know -? MR. QJ: 9 that’s (Indiscernible MR. a: So I’m just going to jump rt o MR. QJ: | nd you mentioned how cameras are so important in 10 South. So now we’re going to talk about the cameras that were actually in the SHU. MR. a: So basic question. Who had EFTA00114321

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= ies) ve] see what was happening on the WwW wo to the same cameras or -. 11 MR. a : You want to know about WwW id K oO wu a bet t ~ A wu ion Oo = rt ct a oO The control 8 S ¢ to t SHU cameras. We hav wo that The lieutenant’s Nh WwW ie) oO rh Hh bh Q @ Do you normally utilize the EFTA00114322

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r job at all? For you daily N iat oO r=] rt B =] o Do you ever use it? t) = n Ll Hh = i) al oO bw Oo 12] a p- a O % 7 camera to see if we see them or something like 8 that. But we’re not there. We don't wo en have time to do that. n if we did, 0 we wouldn’t be doing it. We’re not sitting up there the whole time during our shift and just 7) 2 looking at the cameras to see what’s going on. MR. a: No. That’s not what I mean. 4 I just want to know. At that time - around WwW there were 5 that time period, did you 16 cameras inside the MCC that were not working> : I don’t believe 8 did. wo No. : a : Did you know the cameras Nh WwW | I i] nn = fe) EFTA00114323

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2 MR. a : -- not working? 3 MS. ee : No-no-no. I wasn’t yen though you were 6 the lieutenant at that night did you not know - The only cameras that wo I would know that I would be aware of if 0 they’re working or not would be the cameras that I to which I can look on the 2 TV monitor and see that they’re actively not 3 working at the time. Or one of the other staff ameras would call wo = J 12) a fi} ni] ie] a oO fs] if) rt ie] Q 4 member to me about that you know on 9 , that any cameras 20 21 No. I wasn’t aware of 22 that N a a MR. a : As far as you remember, 24 were the live portion of the cameras working in 25 there? The ones that you were able to monitor EFTA00114324

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4 Ne] WwW wo that’s assigned to 10 South. moni SHU wate -. We’re talking i] if, for instance, the MS. ee : No. You asked me who would be watching U Who would hz s@ cameras? And I’m telling you the only person who would be watching any cameras and required to watch them would be the 10 South. questi MS. ae : -- nobody is watching MR. a : -- so no one is watching EFTA00114327

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Ne] WwW Ne] WwW wo MS. ae : As far as I know. MR. to it I is what we someone wanted to lo at the range within the housing unit, who would ha that camera? MS. ee : I don't know if control has a watching that. So if it’s down, who But your point is would know and how? MS. ee : I would think the e who are responsible for the cam i) would know. MR. a : And who is responsible for the The um, the communication guys. MS. ee : And that would be if know if t know who -? look at because usually, staff reports that camera 145 EFTA00114328

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S) N No No S) 7] i] fe) oO n ct a oO x= i 0 wu a Q oO H n wo WwW wo WwW MR. a : Well how - so would people in the that their cameras were down? : = don't know if they £ would know that. I have no way of knowing that. reported it. that’s the question would be like if the r nge camera in who would know? Who would they noti was responsible? Do you follow? So how would know that the range camera was down? MS. ee : I have no idea how would know. MR. a: You don't know? ee : Unless they have access to it and they know - they can see it on a monitor or something like that and see that it’s not working. I don't know outside of that how they would know. I don't know. 146 EFTA00114329

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Ne] WwW Ne] WwW wo MS. ee : Not that I’m aware the communications would be the ones that would but you think know. Who in communi would be sible for ge 1g the cameras? MS. ae : If they knew about communications. MR. QJ: 4.11 of ollectively? look. Look. I I don't know if ld know, another one would know, or if they both would know at the same time. I don't know. I can’t tell you how ther department conduct their business. ay. Was tl! named Mr. a: (Phone EFTA00114330

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NS Nh Nh No 1 MS. ie) i pal i] on N down there. Yes. MR. a : Would he be potentially one responsible for fixing it? 6 he would be responsible for fixing it. But if WwW 7 bh iu) was notified of it, he would have done it. wo WwW make 6 communications ruction 7 MR. a : And we’re not asking you 8 those questions. I’m sorry. We’re not asking 7] wer 0) regarding -. , wo you -. We’re not looking ia] obl o know like as far oO m 77] 0 the p We just ne s like if a camera goes down, who fixes it? b wu f a staff member had H 3 access to a camera and that we 4 would call the communications department to 25 have them take a look at that camera and to EFTA00114331

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wo wo 149 repair it or replace it, to fix it or whatever needed to be done. MR. a : And roughly - MS. ae : And that depends on who answered the phone. That would be whoever was working down there at the time, depending 1ich one answered the phone. That’s who we would relay that information to. We weren’t picky about talking to a specific person. It would be like if they work in that area, then they should be capable of doing whatever it is that we need to do to restore the cameras. Or whatever manner they need to go about getting it done. MR. a : How quickly usually does that get resolved? If a camera goes down, do they really get it back up and running pretty quickly? Or does it take days? MS. ee : If they’re here and they can replace it, they replace it on the spot. MR. QJ: «ON: «the spot? MS. : |B ight. MR. a : Would it be abnormal for it to take -. So if someone reported it ona EFTA00114332

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wo WwW wo WwW came on th i) shift. Do you recall hearing ab Epstein making a phone call? MR. a : Jesus. This (Indiscernible *02:09:51). MR. QJ: §=Do you recall that? an inmate chat line you know the PIN set up for them, is it norm for an officer to use the legal line to allo MS. ee : Not that I’m aware r heard MR. a: Okay. Have you ev anyone using the legal line other for anythi oO unauthorized? Epstein on August 9th? Interact with or n oO oO oH) 1) 0) Epstein on August 9th? MR. a : Okay. 9th out , al Ww of nor 151 EFTA00114334

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wo wo = wi Wo think that’s what we’re showing you before was the SHU layout. I think it was 15 feet - the closest cell to where the people are sitting in the SHU. They cannot see -. you are inside a housing unit. You cannot see from any - unless you’re standing there in that window, you can’t see inside somebody’s -. MR. a : And is the window open the whole time? able to see if their light is on or something like that. Whatever that window - whatever you can see from that vantage point, you may be able to see like the corner of something or whatever. But no. MR. a : Is the window open the whole time? Or do you have to open it and close it? MS. QM: the window is open all the time. MR. a : And about how big is that window? MS. ee : I don't know how big rr h- w EFTA00114336

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Nh h No wo No WwW fee) wo it like 12 inch I don't know how big Yes I’ve been in the SHU. But I don't have to measure the window to But I mean the differenc oO between like you know a three-foot by two-feet I’m not going to - on the I don't know how big. nts of the window. xy = @ K D u co wn ct fw ty] x ing because we So is ita large thing that kind of like get up narrow. It’s a small window. It’s not a big, EFTA00114337

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wo wo = wi uw huge window where -. MR. a : So would it be like as MS. ae : No. It wouldn’t be MR. ae : So smaller than basically 12X12? Roughly 16X12? look at the window. Because I don't -- know the 77) | \ measurements of the window. I’m holding up a piece of paper And it that it is smaller than that. MR. a: SHU inmates. What are they allowed to have in their cell? What kind of items are they allowed to have inside3 their cell? If you’ MR. a: It depends on what your status is in the SHU. I mean you have inmates re placed in the SHU. that are in there on AD status. You have EFTA00114338

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ow oO ~—] wo MS. ae : -- are on DS. Administrative Detention. You have inmates that they’re on disciplinary segregation. You have inmates up there that are up there for protective custody. You have inmates up there for various reasons. So there is different items that each depending on their status they are allowed to have. MR. a: So there’s no set SHU policy on what inmate is allowed to have and not have in the cell? MS. ee : I don't know what their polices - what their policy is. If they have a set policy here, in general, I’ve never seen a set policy for this institution in particular about what the inmates can have or what they couldn’t have if they’re in SHU. MR. a: Okay so no -. MS. ee : But I’m sure there has to be something. MR. a: So what kind of holding was Epstein under? What would he fall under? MS. ee: I don't know what. To be honest with you, I don't know what because he wasn’t up there for disciplinary EFTA00114339

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uw fo) 10 11 12 13 14 17 18 19 action. He wasn’t up there pending disciplinary action. So I’m going to - and I don't want to say he was up there for protective custody. Because like I said previously, and I’1ll continue to say that, for someone in his position, he never should have been up on SHU. MR. a: Now someone in the SHU. Are they allowed to have the same types of items as a normal person in a regular cell? Or they have only a limited amount of items? MS. ee : Um, Epstein, to be honest with you, there’s no telling what they didn’t allow Epstein to have in his cell. MR. a: Why do you say it like that? MS. a : I say it like that because I know that he was always trying to get things that he wasn’t supposed to have. And to be honest with you, I don't know if they approved them or not. MR. a: What was he trying to get? MS. ae : He was - when he was in attorney conference he was trying to get his meals delivered - his hot trays and stuff like that. Regular inmate trays delivered to EFTA00114340

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oo wo o wo ine) oO ine] attorney conference. Things of that nature. MR. ae : Did he get special privileges? MS. ee : I don't know if he did or not because I worked nights. So I didn’t’ have a lot of interactions with Epstein or any other inmates during the daytime because I wasn’t here. MR. a: Was Epstein allowed to pill bottles in his cell? MS. ee : I don't know if he was or not. MR. a: Are inmates allowed to pill bottles in the cell? MS. a : If medical says that they can have them, yes. MR. a : Okay. How many changes or clothing or linens are inmates allowed to hav in the SHU? MS. ee : I don't know what their policy is up there on SHU. My previous institution, they in SHU they don't have any exchange of clothing up in SHU. When they get their shower, their rec and shower, they’re EFTA00114341

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ow oO oo wo wo given a new set of clothing at that time. But they don't maintain any additional clothing in the special housing unit outside of that. I don't know what they do here. But that’s how it was always done at my previous institution. MR. a: So inmates shouldn’t have two or three different pairs of -? MS. ee : Like I said, I don't know what their policy is or was in SHU at that time because things change here. Because things around here change on a moment-to-moment basis. MR. a: How was Epstein with direction with other inmates? Did he have any i) sues with any inmates? MS. a : I don't know what his interaction was with other inmates. MR. a: When was the last time you interacted with Epstein? When he attempted suicide. MR. a: Okay. Do you know why Epstein was in prison? MS. ee : Uh, because of some allegation that he was having - engaging in EFTA00114342

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wo Ne] WwW wo sexual acts with underage females. MR. ae: So the next set of questions is just general questions we have to ask. Did cific feelings regarding why he was about hat day? I know -. MR. MR. a: And when did you hear about the incident? > my work. time MR. a: You left after 7:00? Or you MS. ee : I think it was after 90king at the clock. I = o oOo EFTA00114343

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ow oO ~—] wo 10 12 13 14 was here working. I had went downstairs to finish some work that I had that I didn’t get to finish during my shift. And at some point in time, that’s when I heard that um that they had had a medical emergency up in SHU. MR. a: But were you here on the premises? MS. ee : Yes. I was still here. MR. a: Did you respond up there at MS. ee : I called up there to make sure everybody was okay. And they - when I asked who was up there they was telling me that they didn’t have but one or two staff members up there. So yes. I went up there to see if they needed some help because I knew feeding and all that stuff still needed to be done. MR. QJ: 9So when you went up to the SHU after the incident, was Epstein still in the SHU or was he removed already? MS. ee: No. He wasn’t there. MR. a: He wasn’t there. Did you get to see the inside of the cell? 161 EFTA00114344

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wo wo = oO) No MS. QM: No. = No. Nope. MR. ae: Did you have any communications with Michael Thomas or Toby Noel after this incident? MS. ee : Noel was still there. asked her if she was okay. And she said, you know not really. And I went to help them feed and shortly after that, when I came back up out the range after feeding the tier, she was gone. her post. to hh ct o ini rt hat day, did you have any communications with them? MS. EE: vo. MR. a : When inmates come off of suicide watch and are in or assigned to the SHU, so suicide watch to the SHU. Are they assigned a cellmate? MS. ee : One more time. MR. QJ: | So when inmates come off of suicide watch or psych observation and they’ re on psych observation due to suicide watch, are they assigned -. If they are then assigned to the SHU, are they assigned a cellmate? EFTA00114345

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WwW MR. QJ: No?) «When y you were working nights, were you working said that MS. QM: ts don't. If that was I was. But MR. a : Do you remember if MS. ee: I mean I would MR. : Sure. ee : I don't know if I was d to MS working sure. just had a follow-up on that. MR. a: Did you work overtime during MR. a: You mentioned EFTA00114346

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1 working overtime during that time. Right? 2 Everyone’s mandated and everything. 3 MS. ee : I’m sure at some 4 point in time. I don’t’ know if it was around 5 that time, but yeah. If a lieutenant then 6 called in sick, yeah. We was required to stay 7 and work that shift. 8 MR. QJ: §9=owWould that be -? So that would be the day wa 0 MS. a : It could have been either or. Well depending on what shift you’re wo 2 working. 3 MR. 4 involved with responding to the July 23rd 5 incident where Epstein originally tried to 16 commit suicide? 8 MR. a : Now is it your understanding that he tried to commit suicide? 20 MS. ee : As far as I know. Did you hear anything wo N c Fs) N nN wy] ion ie} i= rt o Pp. 7) ie] i) bh be =] rit) rt 0] attempting to kill him? N Ww U 4 a @ K 0) = wu o) w 2) 3 o had mentioned at that Ne in] o al M K oO s Qa @ ct a ou rt + asi = @ n ia a o that his cellmate had done that to him. Nh uw ct B- 3 oO EFTA00114347

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ow oO ~—] wo 10 12 13 14 But when I went back and spoke to him he never mentioned that to me. He never said. MR. a : When you say you actually questioned Epstein? MR. a : And what did he say to MS. ee : He didn’t say anything. He really didn’t say anything about the incident. He said that he had gotten up to get some water and the next thing he knew -. I think that was what he said. He had gotten up. I would have to look at my memo. I think he said he had gotten up to get some water or something like that. And the next thing he knew we were there. MR. a: Okay. And what number were you in responding? MS. ae : I don't know what - if I was first if we went because usually when we respond to an emergency, we -. Even if I get on the elevator first, the elevator may stop and pick up somebody else along the way. But I think it was me and I don't know. I don’t’ remember. EFTA00114348

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1 MR. a : When you did respond, what did you see? N Um. MR. a : When you got to the cell? 5 MS. QM: #< «was lying on the 6 floor. He appeared to eb unresponsive. But WwW 1 mn we walked up to him, we would see his kind of clammy. wo he have anything No. He didn’t have WwW 4 And there were 5 different times when he would open eye 16 kind of you know like he was trying to see what 7 we were doing. And then he would close his 8 eyes. But he would never respond to us. He 9 just wanted to maintain that mode like he was 20 unconscious or something like that. I Nh f ion ie) 5 ct know what was going through his mind. 22 MR. a : Do you know if someone removed something that was MS. ee : I don’t know if someone. I don’t’ know. 24 EFTA00114349

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10 11 12 13 14 16 17 18 19 20 22 23 24 MR. a : Okay. Point being, like if he’s claiming someone tried to kill him, but also at the same time is saying that he’s trying to commit suicide. He didn’t’ have anything around his neck. Is there any reason for you to believe that his cellmate was actually trying to kill him? MS. ee : No. I mean I had no proof that his cellmate tried to do anything to him. And I’m trying to remember what the officer said. I don’t’ even remember offhand what the officers were telling me. I don't know if they saw him with something around his neck or what they observed. But I can’t remember. I would have to refer back to my notes. Because that was a long time ago. MR. a: Sure. So if counts are not conducted. And I’m assuming -. Are counts more important than rounds? Or are they both just as equally as important? MS. ee : I mean they’re both important. They are both independently important. MR. a : Okay. So let’s go first with counts. If counts are not conducted, who EFTA00114350

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10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 is -. So if counts are signed off on. You’re given a count slip. If those counts actually weren’t conducted. So if let’s say for instance that during your shift, the 12:00 a.m., the 3:00 a.m., and the 5:00 a.m. If they were not conducted - those counts- who is responsible for that? For them being signed and certified? Who - so I’m assuming the people? Noel and Thomas are the ones assigned to that shift. And they are the ones who certify that those counts were conducted and then provided to you. Are they the only ones that are responsible for providing false information? MS. Eee : Providing false information? MR. a: Correct. So if they’re saying they conducted counts but they didn’t. So they were providing you with something saying either 72 or 73, but those counts were not conducted. MS. a : How would I know if they weren’t conducted? MR. a : Right. That’s what I’m asking. So are they the only ones that are EFTA00114351

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wo wo responsible for falsifying that? Who else would know whe r or not they did them or That’s have fr] o fe) fs) ct a Oo K ue] oO fe) ue} hal o rt > fw ct a gf 5 a B * o oO K Hi rh o saying to you. If to ever There is no reason whatsoever for us believe that someone is unts or doing what doing. You know. We’re not out them. I mean we have no of knowing what -. 4 07] far as I know, no one any way of knowing what I’m doing when I’m here. know so have you EFTA00114352

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10 11 12 13 14 16 17 18 19 to have confident in and you have to know your staff. That’s what it comes down to. You have to walking and talking. It’s not just about the inmates. It’s not just about you know what we did with Epstein. IT’s about every inmate that was being housed at MCC at the time. Every inmate had the potential to hang themselves or kill themselves or do whatever. It wasn’t just about Epstein. We’re responsible for every inmate in this institution. MR. a : Sure. MS. es : And I have - if I have absolutely no reason to believe that a staff member in this building or doubt unless they reveal something to me that would make me doubt what they said is true. MS. (MJ: Other than that 1 have no reason to believe that a staff member isn’t doing what they’re supposed to be doing. MR. a : So if you were told that the 12:00 a.m., 3:00 a.m. and 5:00 a.m. counts were not conducted on August 10th, does that surprise you? EFTA00114353

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= ~l Wo Who has to sign off on the counts and 3 MR. ae : What do you mean? 5 that are in the SHU? Or does someon else have oO 8 MS. ee : I mean you can’t wo 2 that information. 4 turned in the 8 MR. a : So there’s no procedure in place for a lieutenant to make sure that wo 3 20 are actually performing the duties that they > 22 know how many would have to a Supervisor to be on every unit during every EFTA00114356

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Nh No N N WwW wo WwW fee} wo ie] Ww It’s all up to th y did it, lieutenants are taking their word for it. MS. ee : That’s correct. far as I know. MR. a : On August 10th during your shift from August 9th 10:00 p.m. to 6:00 a.m. the following day. command? Was it Noel or Thomas or was the hierarchy? Was one subordinate or give the other orders or Is there a hierarchy in working like person that’s in charge of the other? rt fe) o ct Pa o 6 EFTA00114358

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ow oO ~—] wo 10 12 13 14 MS. ae : You mean the count slip? The count slip comes to control -? MS. ae : And the count slip is MS. ee : Then if control is aware of that, and especially if control is taking the count. Then control will call them back and tell them I need a new count slip because this one is not right. And usually the only time that that would happen would be like in the incidents where we may have moved a staff member during that time. And we need to go back and update that count slip that we were originally getting. Or like in this case with the inmate being in R&D. We needed to go back and get another count slip that reflected the new count which was 72. Once we put the inmate in R&D. MR. a: Okay. On that same topic, if the count was wrong, and you told them that they needed to go back and do another count. MS. ee : Not that the count was wrong. That the count slip was wrong. The ~] ~ EFTA00114360

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ow oO wo wo number that was reflected on the count slip was wrong. MR. a: Did you see them do the count? MR. a: So the number they reported was wrong. The count should have been -. MS. ee : They said that they had -. They said that they had their count was 73 but that they had there was an inmate that was in R&D. So that was the problem. They never did a count slip saying - they never said my count is 73 and left it at that. They were clear to say that the count is - SHU has 73 but there is an inmate that is down on the third floor in R&D. Or something to that effect. They notified me that there was an inmate that was off their housing unit. MR. a: So you’re saying the count wasn’t wrong. MS. ee : What was on the count slip was wrong. MR. a : The count slip was wrong but she said that they explained it when they delivered it. EFTA00114361

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ow oO ~—] wo 10 12 13 14 MR. a: But you just stated a little bit before that the count wasn’t wrong, the count slip was wrong. MS. ae : The count slip was wrong. MR. a: Why did you ask them to go back and do the count? MS. ee : Because I needed to find out what was going on with this dude in R&D so that, you know, if they in fact -. If we made changes to whatever the status was to this guy in R&D. If he was in fact going to be there overnight or whatever the case may be, then we needed to get him off of their count. So while I was verifying that, I said, you know what just go back and do it again just to make sure. While I’m looking into this thing with this dude. I didn’t say that to them. I’m thinking to myself. I’11l have them go back and do another count while I check on this inmate that was -. MR. a: There’s a possibility the count was wrong then. MS. ee : What do you mean? MR. a: You said go back and verify = ~l] oO EFTA00114362

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ow oO ~—] wo 180 if the guy was still there or not there. MS. ee : I didn’t say go back and verify if the guy was still there. I said while I verify what’s going on with this guy in R&D to see if he’s still in R&D. That’s what I’m talking about. I wanted to verify if he was still in R&D. And if he was if he was going to be staying there. Because I wasn’t aware that there was an inmate in R&D. So from my own, and I wasn’t verbalizing this. I was saying this to myself. MR. a: But the point being is you got a count that was a 73 and you said do it again. Correct? MS. ee : The count slip that was 73 was broke down because they had put the count slip out. MR. a : Right. And you -- MR. QJ: -- asked them to do the count again though. Because you got a count - and this is where I just want to make sure that we’re all on the same page here. So you did though take action. You got a count slip that seemed to be inaccurate and questioned it. You EFTA00114363

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wo wo 181 said can you do the count again. MS. ee : I hadn’t even gotten MR. : Oh, okay. MS. ee : Like I said, when they called in the count, they said the count like the count in the book or wherever they was reading it from say 73 but there is an inmate in R&D. MR. : So that’s how they called the count There’s 73, but there’s one inmate in R&D. And you said, can you do the count again? really calling in the count. They was questioning. You know they were basically fw informing me that we’ve got 73 -. Because they weren’t even sure what they should do or how they should go about it. MS. ee : You know. They just wanted it to be known that there was an inmate off their housing unit that was somewhere else. He wasn’t physically on the housing unit. And wu if) that was the whole question to how do they EFTA00114364

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ow oO ~—] wo 10 12 13 14 182 want us to do - how are we supposed to count this guy? What’s the deal with that? So I’m saying, you know, let me - I need to figure this out. Because I wasn’t - I didn’t even know that there was a guy in R&D at the time. So I need to verify that there is a guy in R&D and what’s the status of this dude in R&D, why he’s there. All these questions I have to ask before I can even tell them anything about it. MR. Ee : So at what point would have they filled out the count slip? After you did the verification? Would have they then created the count slip? apparently was never picked up because -- MR. a : Never picked up and not recorded. MR. THIELHORN: -- because the one that you all was able to get a copy of was the 73 and not the one that reflected the in count which would have been 72. MR. a : And do you know that EFTA00114365

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oo wo wo = co Wo there was a count slip that was created? MS. ee : I have no reason to believe that there wasn’t. MR. a : But do you have a reason believe that there was? Did you ever see ct ie) o MS. ee : If I had saw it, it would have been during the time that I would have taken the count and I would have attached it to the rest of the count slips and went on about my business. ve. a: saying to you there’s no reason to believe that 30 at the same time we’re wo there wasn’t. there’s also then no reason to believe that there was. MS. a : I - let me tell you - MR. a : The point being is that you don't know. You don't know if there was a count slip. MS. ee : If -. Let me tell you something. Based upon the fact that I’ve worked with these guys for a certain period of time and I know what they’re capable of doing. I can for the most part tell you what somebody EFTA00114366

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ow oO 10 11 12 13 14 17 18 19 would do and what they wouldn’t do. I have never had a problem with a staff member not correcting their count slip or not sending me another - a corrected count slip. MR. a : Now we’re only asking you because I have personally not seen it. So I’m asking you if there’s another one, do we need to go try to find this. Or do you not know. MS. NN: | You're not going to find it. I mean it’s two years after. MS. ee : Where are you going to find it at? If it wasn’t picked up - I mean the fact that they could have put it out there and no one picked it up. MR. a: Here’s a question. If they did do one, right, it’s expected that they should have for that one. Right. A new one. Yes or no? Because of the error, it was expected that they would have filled out a new one with the correct number. MS. ae : I’m sure that they feel that they filled out another one and probably put it out in and it was an oversight on somebody’s part and they didn’t pick it up. EFTA00114367

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wo wo R oa i=) MR. a : And that’s what we’re getting at. The point being is that you’re not sure. So we just don't want to - because you Said you have no reason to believe that they didn’t. That indicates that they did. And we just want to make sure that you’re correct. You’ve never seen it. You’re actually not sure if they did or not. a: MR. y- wu Is that correct though? count slip. MR. a : Okay. Perfect. I mean oy ha” it’s not like a “gotcha,” we just want to make sure -- MR. a : -- that you dint - there n’t a count slip out there that we need to 7] try to go find. MS. QM: ets me tell you something. It’s -. If-if-if. I can’t - if I can make something right that’s wrong or need correcting, then that’s what I’m here for. I’m not here to like I said, and I’1ll say this a thousand times. I’m not here to cover for EFTA00114369

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ow oO wo wo 187 ¢ nobody. I’m not here to provide false answers for something that somebody had done, but at the same time, you all are throwing these questions at me about what somebody would have done. I don't know what’s in somebody’s mind - MR. QJ: Ma’am, we're absolutely not asking -- MS. ee : -- with the stuff -- MR. Ee : -- those questions. We’re asking you -- MS. ee : -- that’s taken place. MR. Ee : We’re saying did you see it. So that’s what we’re trying to get you to answer more like yes, no, I don't know on that front. So we’re trying to keep it consolidated and ask you direct questions. What did you know? Did you know if they did another count MS. ee : Well what I also know is there’s no reason for them to not have done it. I’ve never had a reason or a circumstance where somebody didn’t do a corrected count slip. I mean it’s - there’s really nothing to EFTA00114370

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2 MR. a : And this is only because 3 of the way you’re answering this. Should have 4 you ensured that they did a new count slip? ee : I had no reason to. 6 MR. es : But was it your responsibility to ensure that they created a 8 new count slip? wo 0 responsibility to tell them. Well they knew to 11 create it. If the count was different, they 2 knew to create a new count slip. I’m not 7) 3 required to wait around for that count slip to 4 manifest itself in SHU when I have a thousand 5 other duties to do. 16 Okay. 7 I leave that you 8 know. 9 MR. a : So it’s your requirement 20 to do a new count but it’s not your requirement 21 to follow up to obtain a new count slip. 22 MS. ae : Because what 23 generally happens is that the internal officers 24 would go pick that count slip up and bring it 25 down to the control center. And they would EFTA00114371

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No WwW No WwW 9 20 79 internal to tell them to come get it? Or would it have been your responsibility to tell Sometimes I would SHU would tell them. It the circumstance do you know who would have that? we all I mean could have done it. We all could have u say de pending on circumstance in something I said. done it. If control - - = ies) w EFTA00114372

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Nh No N N WwW wo WwW wo No Ww So let’s get at it this contact internal? something. If internal to the control there to wu 3 Qo H over drop off count collected. And I And I’1l say hey, can you go grab the new one from 9 South That would be an example of a in this Okay. did you contact internal and tell them to get the new slip? vs. : «-- =o MR. QJ: and and Noel I didn’t contact -- tell them. are you aware if contacted internal to Thomas come collect a new slip? They may have. And I you’re not aware? control may h I can’t from -- remember = wo o EFTA00114373

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wo wo 3) MS. ee : I’ve never seen that. that done here. But we didn’t have -. I’m trying to remember a time when prior to Epstein that I had even seen an email period about an inmate needing an inmate in the cell to be housed with another inmate. To be honest with you. MR. a : Okay. Now speaking to that though, you know, we showed you the email that was sent to you that you said you don't it. Do you have a lot of unread? A w bh is) oO w BR oO rt is) rh didn’t receive this but there’s emails that you didn’t receive -- MS. ee : There’s a lot of emails that I rece yu probably read at that time because of everything that was going on during our shift and in this EFTA00114375

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ow oO oo wo wo building. MR. Ee : And is that just a constant issue of just trying to keep up with emails as well as do your job? MS. ee : That was a constant issue. Yes. Because there was so much going on in this building at the time. So much chaos. That you didn’t have time to read. MR. QR: okay. MS. a : You didn’t have time to read a lot of the emails that you’d gotten. = But most importantly, if when you’re talking about information that’s that important, you know. Whoever is sending out the information. Whoever got the information should always be trying to make sure that everybody knows that this is important. We have to make sure that he had a cellie because like I said, the officers are the main ones who come in contact. MR. QJ: And that goes back to our original question. MS. ae : With the inmates. MR. a : If the chain of command went up toe | during that time and that he knew that he was required to have a cellmate EFTA00114376

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= oO 1 and didn’t. what should have he done? If what? 3 MR. a : If you were the ops 4 lieutenant at the time, so put yourself into 5 the place of a. If you knew that Epstein 6 was required to have a cellmate, and his current cellmate was removed, he should have - 8 and what you said was, I believe, he should wo have notified the captain and ensure that a 0 cellmate was put in place. That’s what I would 2 have done. 3 MR. a : Correct. 4 MS. ee : I said || was the 5 SHU lieutenant at one point. So he probably 16 would assigned another inmate to the cell. 7 It just depends on you as a supervisor. There is nothing wo n 20 written in stone concerning how you’re going to 21 - indicating how you’re going to handle that 22 situation because -. 23 MR. a : And if the inmate that 24 was removed - - was done at the end of 25 his shift, should have he then passed that EFTA00114377

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wo wo I’m saying -. Look. What he should have done and what he could have done and what would have done is on him. . ee : We don't have - there is no instruction or no instructional manual that we’re said about your hours aren’t specific to what says. You said you would work -. Although the 8:00 a.m., you were actual 10:00 p.m. to 6:0 a.m. What would have . | have been on August wo th. Looking at the du roster. What times Y D © would he have actually - have worked according EFTA00114379

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wo wo MS. ee : I’m thinking he would have worked -. he would have came in around 6:00 and worked until 2:00. MR. a : Okay. So he would have MS. ee : Yes. MR. a : And then fs would have been 2:00 p.m. to 10:00 p.m.? MS. a : That’s correct. MR. QJ: Okay. If he didn’t -. it then been the ultimate responsibility for the COs to again report it up the chain of command? Or because they reported it previously, would that have covered them with hey we got it up to the ops lieutenant. That person’s supposed to take care of it. Do you follow what I’m saying? So for people working in the SHU. They had already reported it up. It got to BR. at in the SHU covered? They reported it. Or rr hat point, is everybody should each subsequent shift has also reported hey he’s supposed to have an inmate - he’s is] supposed to have a cellmate in here. He EFTA00114380

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10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 doesn’t. MS. ee: That’s if they knew. There is no reason for me to believe that those guys that was there on SHU that if they knew that, whether or not before they left, I’m sure they would have questioned that again as to what you want me to do about this particular situation. MR. ae : Okay. So should have each -. So then let’s say if Thomas and Noel did know. And they knew he was without a cellmate. Should have they then told you? When you did your rounds? Like when they’ re calling control. And you’re stopping by at 4:00 a.m. Would have it been their responsibility to say hey, just so you know, he’s required to have a cellmate and he doesn’t. MS. Ee : I’m not going to say that that’s what they should have done because there’s no rules and regulations regarding that. But they - I would have - if it was me, I would have mentioned it. MR. a : Okay. So even if they know, somebody told them just make sure. He’s 198 EFTA00114381

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ow oO ~—] wo 10 12 13 14 MR. J: 9 what? MR. a: Do you know of any - currently, do you know of any policy violations that’s happening at the MCC? as what? MR. a : For August 9th and 10th or are you talking about -- = nH hal a) hh wu K MR. a: No-no-no. Just in general. MR. ae : -- just in general? MR. a: In general. In general, do you know of any policy violations or any kind of violations happened here at the MCC? MS. es : What I do know is that there are people here who abuse their power. They blame everybody for everything and they expect everybody to members of correctional services and to take on the responsibilities of other departments when it’s clearly not their responsibility. You have a lot of people that come here that really are not versed on what it is they’re supposed to be doing - their responsibilities. So they pawn that off on other people. But there’s a -. There’s no clear and defined form of policy and procedure here. There’s no consistency that EFTA00114383

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10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 201 goes on here. Everything is hodge-podge. A lot of times, people are required to make decisions off the cuff or to do -. Because when you come here, if you don't have or while you’re here - or working here. There is no formal guidance that teaches and guides staff to know what they’re supposed to be doing. There’s nothing written in stone regarding what you’ re supposed to be doing and what you’re supposed to be doing on a daily basis. There are post orders and stuff like that. But they’re not in depth enough to let staff know this is what you’re supposed to be doing. There are a lot of things that - decision that people make off the cuff that’s not ever put in writing. And that they would tell whoever’s here at the time. And I guess expect that information to get disseminated throughout the institution. And it’s not. That’s not being done. That’s not being done. So you have a lot of - we have a lot of new staff here. And a lot of them are falling between the cracks because they just aren’t getting information to them in a manner in which they should. MR. a: On what you just mentioned. EFTA00114384

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10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 So you’re saying that there’s orders or decisions coming down from up above? And it’s not being properly communicated out. MS. Ee : This is how. This is how this place has always been. You -. People in-in-in-in um positions will require the people up under them to carry their load rather than them carrying their own load. When if - if I’m a lieutenant, my duties and responsibilities and authority end at a certain level. At that point, the captain and above takes over. A lot of times, you don't see that. They expect you to do your job and their job as well. We can’t -. There are certain decisions that we can’t make. If it was up to me, Epstein would have been up on 10 South. So those are the type of decisions where you tell people that these things are wrong. You give them intel about certain things. And here we are. We done found a loaded gun in the institution. That - those type things should never happen. Never happen. MR. a: That’s all I have. MR. a: Anything else? 202 EFTA00114385

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ow oO oo wo wo like yourself. MS. ee : Yeah, but you have other people that are - were responsible for disseminating that information to - MR. QJ: Okay. MS. ee : -- everybody to make sure that everybody had that information. And everybody knew that. MR. QJ: Right. And that -- MS. a : And they also had -. MR. Ee : -- I guess like yourself, you received an email but you didn’t read it. So that’s where there’s one of those things that yeah, there’s definitely things to work out. But I’m just saying when you say, like there are things that sound like they were probably done wrong here like counts and rounds aren’t being conducted. People aren’t reporting information up the chain if they’re being told to do so. But as well as everything else, you’re saying as an institution. MS. ae : When I first came into the Bureau, you didn’t even have email. So how was - and you still now is no different than back then. You still have inmates who was EFTA00114387

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10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 with in potential danger. The same situations that existed in the institutions then. It’s the same instances that exist now. So if back then they were able to make sure everybody was one the same page and that information was disseminated and it got to everybody. Why should it be any different here? You can’t rely on an inmate because first of all, in order to know, you don't just send out. That’s the whole purpose of walking and talking. To disseminate information that way. Because you’re never guaranteed that when you send out an email that somebody is going to read it. I have a ton of emails on my computer at home that I don’t read. So nothing is guaranteed. You have to know. When you’re in charge and you’re running something, you-you-you-you need to know that whatever you put out there, that if it’s that important, if it’s that important, why are you sending it through an email anyway. Why aren’t you calling somebody on the phone? Back it up. Call people on the phone. Make sure everybody knows. MR. a : I think the purpose is to put it in writing. But yeah, so email but also 205 EFTA00114388

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ow oO ~—] wo 10 12 13 14 verify verbally. MS. ee : You need to verify that if you’re sending those emails to pertinent people who should have access to that information that everybody knows about it. MR. a : Do you all have all staff like we’re lieutenants are all present where they can verbalize something to you? Is that done here? MS. ee : Do we have what? MR. ee : So you’re saying that not only an email but people should verbalize it. But there’s a ton of people that need to know things. So is there a process in place where someone like the captain, say? If the warden tells the captain make sure he has a cellmate, is there a process in place where the captain can get in front of all the lieutenants and tell them this? Or is that - is there -? MS. QM: the captain has access to every lieutenant here. The captain’s office is -. MR. a : But how would he know about verbalizing? We have to tell each individual lieutenant. No Qo n EFTA00114389

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No WwW wo wo 24 MS. ae : He should. MR. a : So eac MS. QM: | tf it’s that important. MR. a : -- lieutenant he needs to tell? And were you - being the a | i - were you one of the people he vecifically told? should have told ust time. He should have told have made sure that we all knew that. since you didn’t know. You have an email but no one verbalized it. Who should have told you? Whose ultimate respo sibility do you believe it was that hey that’s the position that really should have informed me. I’m the ops lieutenant. I should have known that he needed an inmate. Who was the pers should have told you that verbally? MS. ee : Everybody who had stake in making sure. EFTA00114390

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wo WwW wo WwW MR. a : But you relay believe that every single one of this person should have They should have made sure that enough people knew whereby everybody should have known. about. Ev rybody did know but you. So who should have told you? MR. a : The lieutenants. here all knew that he was required to have an You're the only one who said that you didn’t know. So my question to you is they all knew. Who should have been the one to tell MS. ee : The same people that told them. Just tbc they read the email i] doesn’t mean that before they read the email, th N cs) oo EFTA00114391

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1 how we all know what happens here. When you 2 don't have one person -. 3 MR. a : Okay. 4 MS. ae : One person that would 5 mean that that one person would have to work 6 every shift to let everybody know what’s going on. But if you see me here, and you know that 8 that’s important. Then you should at least wo make the effort to hey, did you know? 0 MR. QJ: Right. 11 MS. ee: I mean we’re not -. 2 MR. QJ: nd bin g that the 3 captain doesn’t you work when you work at 4 nights especially. It sounds like from July 5 30thto the time that this happened. 16 MR. a: At some point in time. 7 MR. a : So would that have been 8 the other ops lieutenant? His requirement to \o ct o aa bh is) c 20 MS. QM: 8s some point in 21 time. I’m sure. The captain seen me between 22 July 30th and every day at some point 23 thereafter. 24 MR. a : Okay. So by saying the 25 captain, does that mean you believe the captain EFTA00114393

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N rar No 1 knew. Whether it was the warden making sure. 2 MR. a : Sure. So if the warden 3 contacted the captain and told the captain hey 4 make sure all your lieutenants know -. 5 MS. ee : Whether it was the 6 warden telling the AWs, the AWs telling the captains and telling them to tell us. 8 MR. a : But the person above you. So let’s say. Take this as like what I’m wo 11 MS. ee: It could have been -. 2 It could have been another officer, sir, that 3 knew and didn’t. 4 MR. a: Okay. And tha ct ‘'s my 16 MS. a : And could have said 8 MR. a : So in this instance, if the warden told the captain, the captain you wo 20 know telling the lieutenants. Should have it 21 been both your reli ops lieutenant as well 22 as the captain are the ones that should have 23 been telling you this? Nh 7) Which one? Which No wi 4 oO ha re oO fs =) ; EFTA00114395

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oo wo wo have your captain told you? MS. ee : Whoever knew that day that he was left without a cellie. And who came in contact with me should have you know. MR. a : Okay. So the highest level basically the highest officer. So if i knew it would have been - and he didn’t tell the captain, it would have been his responsibility to either told the captain and the ops lieutenant next to him. And that ops lieutenant should have told the captain or you. The point being the information never go to you. MS. ee : I never was told. MR. QM: Sure. No. And that’ n i MS. ee : I never was told that he didn’t’ have a cellie on that day. MR. QR: Okay. somebody supposed to do is clearly left up to n far as what that individual and what their knowledge is and how much they know. How long they’ve been on the job and how well they do their job and so forth and so on. EFTA00114397

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nN bE I CERTIFICATE I hereby certify that the foregoing pages represent an accurate transcript of the electronic sound recording of the proceedings Office of the before the Department of Justice, Inspector General in the matter of: a Marci Bratton, Transcriber EFTA00114400

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La Ability - 97:15, 97:16 Able - 23:11, 23:25, 141:25, 153:12, 153:15, 182:22, 195:2, 205:4 Abnormal - 149:24, 150:1 Above - 5:19, 40:12, 98:20, 135:9, 169:7, 202:2, 202:11, 203:4, 212:8 Abreast - 114:20 Absolutely - 22:3, 64:19, 133:16, 133:23, 170:14, 187:7 Abuse - 200:14 According - 25:20, 60:25, 79:16, 80:16, 100:17, 103:7, 103:10, 109:16, 196:25 Accordingly - 5:11 Account - 20:2, 36:3, 72:12, 96:24, 98:16 Accounted - 97:4 Acknowledge - 137 2 Across - 60:15, 118:10 Act - 5:8 Action - 5:13, 61:7, 61:11, 61:13, 62:2, 117:11, 120:14, 130:17, 131:10, 138:13, 157:1, 157:2, 180:24 Actively - 141:12 Activities - 48:1, 73:5, 73:8 Acts - 160:1 AD - 155:23, 155:25 Added - 35:17 Adding - 93:15 Addition - 19:25, 20:20, 21:4, 35:24, 36:12, 105:15, 114:6 Additional - 22:9, 35:16, 159:2 Address - 7:7, 93:13 Addressed - 104:7 Adequate - 98:21, 114:8, 125:24, 131:2 Adjacent - 51:16 Administrative - 20 11, 64:8, 156:2 Administrator - 119 125 Advise - 36:5, 97:24, 126:22 Advised - 107:6 Afternoon - 24:24 Afterwards - 45:19 Against - 5:13, 5:23 Agency - 5:16 Agent - 3:5, 3:23, 4:5, 4:8, 4:10, 6:10, 128:12, 196:20, 216:2 Agents - 17:10 Ago - 167:16 Agree - 4:20, 122:8, 203:10 Ahead - 21:9, 163:21 Air - 114:23 Alarm - 114:10 Alarms - 15:13, 22:23, 105:21 Alert - 60:13 Alerted - 63:24 Alike - 215:4 Alive - 36:19, 38:18 Allegation - 159:25 Allow - 151:12, 157:14 Allowed - 81:13, 155:18, 155:19, 156:8, 156:10, 157:9, 158:10, 158:14, 158:19 Along - 165:23 Alphabetical - 53:1 9 Alphabets - 75:21, 75:22 Already - 11:11, 15:15, 19:2, 67:19, 87:22, 128:12, 128:25, 129:7, 161:22, 190:6, 197:20 Alright - 8:7, 10:18, 34:23, 80:18, 106:10, 124:10, 135:7, 211:16, 215:12, 215:25 Also - 3:22, 5:3, 6:11, 24:10, 28:7, 29:14, 36:15, 41:6, 41:20, 62:10, 72:24, 167:3, 183:14, 187:21, 192:17, 197:23, 204:10, 205:25 Alter - 9:24 Although - 106:4, 196:21 Altogether - 9:8, 82:1 Always - 35:5, 38:9, 40:13, 128:9, 136:9, 142:9, 157:17, 159:5, 193:15, 202:5 Am - 4:8, 5:20, 6:9, 6:14, 131:22, 216:2 Amended - 5:8 Amount - 114:1, 157:11 And/Or - 5:17 32:22 Announce - 16:9 Announced - 190:2 4 Answer - 5:12, 5:14, 5:20, 64:25, 86:2, 95:2, 98:21, 116:14, 133:15, 187:16, 195:12 Answered - 149:5, 149:7 Answering - 30:23, 188:3 Answers - 4:19, 7:2, 187:1 Antagonize - 122:1 2 Anybody - 15:11, 17:1, 17:2, 39:23, 64:6, 68:11, 107:20, 113:11, 113:14, 136:7, 213:7 Anymore - 129:16 Anyone - 125:1, 135:3, 151:17 Anyway - 64:5, 205:20 Apartment - 7:9 Apologize - 55:12, 138:4 Apparently - 82:8, 136:23, 182:18 Appeared - 166:6 Appears - 25:18 Appreciated - 133:1 1 Appropriate - 53:1 Approved - 157:20 Approximately - 3: 2, 3:19 Area - 20:6, 20:7, 36:10, 60:15, 78:13, 79:8, 79:13, 81:6, 93:14, 98:5, 142:18, 149:10 Areas - 100:1, 100:2 Aren't - 65:3, 196:19, 201:23, 204:18, 205:21 Arrangements - 13 0:7 Arrived - 64:1 Arrives - 19:22 Aside - 51:18, 108:1 Ask - 7:1, 16:17, 23:10, 38:7, 39:6, 41:13, 45:2, 52:9, 60:17, 80:11, 81:16, 130:13, 160:3, 179:6, 182:8, 187:18, 215:15 Asked - 4:18, 5:4, 36:22, 68:24, 95:4, 144:14, 161:14, 162:6, 180:20, 215:16 Asking - 23:22, 43:25, 47:3, 80:6, 83:14, 89:24, 127:11, 129:10, 129:17, 148:17, 148:18, 154:20, 168:25, 169:4, 184:5, 184:7, 187:8, 187:11 Assessment - 134: 12, 134:14 Assign - 16:11, 68:17, 119:17 Assignment - 8:25, 24:21, 29:4 Assist - 22:6, 22:10, 22:25, 33:13 Assume - 67:6 Assumed - 107:2 Assuming - 61:24, 65:24, 65:25, 67:1, 112:14, 115:9, 167:18, 168:8, 209:22 Assurances - 4:25, §:19 Assure - 105:2, 106:8, 133:13 Attach - 189:1 Attached - 28:4, 183:9 Attempted - 48:15, 63:22, 65:10, 121:3, 121:5, 121:7, 126:17, 152:7, 159:21 Attempting - 164:2 2 Attention - 82:4, 85:22 Attorney - 99:16, 100:21, 157:23, 158:1 Authority - 202:10 Authorization - 98: 15 Automatically - 65: 21 Available - 16:6, 16:8, 23:5 Average - 16:19 AW - 191:13, 209:20 Awesome - 124:9 Aws - 40:15, 212:6 Background - 7:6, 41:23 Bad - 21:22, 22:4, 23:2, 23:3, 23:4, 142:9 Bag - 203:2 Balances - 14:13 Ball - 107:18, 107:20 Barrel - 15:9 Base - 79:12 Based - 60:19, 60:20, 61:3, 63:12, 69:15, 76:5, 78:18, 90:16, 130:5, 183:22 Basic - 138:25 Basically - 22:10, 121:14, 134:9, 155:6, 181:16, 214:6 Basis - 5:2, 37:8, 38:14, 159:12, 201:10 Bear - 12:12 Beast - 127:15 Become - 57:6 Begin - 65:6, 108:8, 120:5 Behind - 71:16, 128:5 Belief - 6:23 Below - 15:9 Bene - 112:4 Bent - 114:20 Best - 6:22, 32:13, 83:18, 113:3, 123:20, 127:8, 203:5 Better - 203:8 Between - 13:15, 22:14, 27:15, 28:13, 28:17, 33:19, 37:24, 101:19, 101:23, EFTA00114401

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108:16, 115:9, 119:3, 119:8, 119:10, 130:18, 154:11, 201:22, 210:21, 213:7 Big - 110:18, 153:22, 153:24, 154:3, 154:9, 154:17, 154:25, 155:3, 155:5 Bin - 210:12 Birth - 7:12 Bit - 7:6, 179:2 Blame - 200:15 Board - 118:10 Bodies - 85:25, 86:17 Body - 15:13, 22:23, 86:19, 86:20, 86:22, 105:20, 114:10 Book - 181:7 Books - 102:22 Bop - 7:24, 8:14, 8:25, 10:9, 129:16 Both - 5:17, 21:12, 24:18, 27:16, 73:6, 73:8, 142:5, 147:21, 163:15, 167:19, 167:21, 167:22, 175:16, 212:21 Bottles - 158:11, 158:15 Bottom - 15:9, 63:8, 70:14 Boxes - 108:9 Brain - 215:5 Branch - 8:3 Break - 9:15, 9:18 Breakdown - 107:8, 110:20, 125:5 Breathing - 49:20, 72:7 Bring - 79:5, 188:24 Broke - 180:16 Brooklyn - 7:9 Brought - 36:11, 47:6, 69:7, 82:4, 85:21 Bu - 137:7 Building - 64:7, 170:15, 174:14, 193:1, 193:7 Bunch - 17:2, 105:16, 105:20, 128:3, 133:9 Bureau - 3:11, 8:8, 16:23, 17:25, 129:22, 204:23 Business - 133:19, 147:23, 183:11 Busy - 30:19, 113:22 C3D - 7:9 California - 18:20 Calling - 30:25, 31:20, 31:21, 32:5, 32:7, 32:19, 84:14, 85:5, 85:16, 93:18, 93:19, 181:15, 198:14, 205:21 Calls - 30:22, 30:23, 134:20 Camera - 140:7, 141:16, 142:2, 142:7, 142:8, 142:10, 142:14, 142:16, 144:23, 145:6, 145:22, 145:25, 146:10, 146:13, 148:21, 148:23, 148:25, 149:16 Cannot - 81:12, 153:4, 153:6 Capable - 149:11, 183:24 Captains - 13:22, 212:7 Captain's - 206:21 Caption - 134:6, 135:24 Care - 31:1, 114:7, 117:15, 129:8, 129:10, 147:7, 153:5, 197:18 Career - 18:3, 19:7 Carried - 81:8 Carry - 202:7 Carrying - 202:8 Case - 37:1, 89:6, 89:8, 91:15, 109:14, 177:16, 179:13, 2131 Cats - 69:22, 135:18 Caught - 85:14 Cellmates - 120:21, 120:23 Cells - 20:7, 20:15, 36:19, 76:18, 152:15 Center - 3:22, 21:17, 21:21, 32:19, 91:11, 92:25, 139:18, 143:18, 176:19, 188:25, 190:5 Central - 135:19 Certain - 39:22, 42:25, 64:14, 183:23, 202:10, 202:14, 202:19 Certainly - 203:7 Certified - 168:8 Certify - 168:11 Certifying - 175:4 Chain - 40:16, 63:10, 97:23, 175:13, 193:23, 197:14, 204:19, 211:7, 211:9 Chances - 195:4 Change - 159:10, 159:11 Changes - 158:18, 179:11 Chaos - 193:8 Charge - 175:15, 175:25, 205:16 Check - 58:14, 90:15, 90:21, 179:20 Checked - 108:9 Checks - 14:13, 22:19 Chest - 166:8 Choose - 5:13, 90:4 Choosing - 117:20 Chose - 90:16, 105:4 Circle - 28:1, 34:5, 34:6, 62:1 Circling - 27:20 Circumstance - 114 :25, 124:13, 187:23, 189:12, 189:13, 189:22, 190:10, 190:12 Circumstances - 58 :20, 126:6, 130:3, 130:4, 150:5 Claiming - 167:2 Clammy - 166:8 Clarification - 96:22 , 99:2 Clarified - 36:7 Clarify - 35:8, 45:4, 46:14, 47:4, 60:19, 70:15, 71:17, 80:13 Clear - 83:19, 83:23, 89:14, 113:8, 128:15, 148:15, 178:14, 200:24 Clearly - 200:19, 214:21 Clicked - 106:6 Clock - 59:25, 160:25 Close - 49:14, 134:19, 134:20, 153:19, 154:23, 166:17 Closer - 123:3 Closest - 153:3 Clothing - 158:19, 158:24, 159:1, 159:2 | CO - 42:5, 56:9, 56:11, 56:14, 56:16, 56:18, 56:20, 56:22, 56:24, 65:24, 69:5, 96:23, 115:10 Coercion - 5:22 Collect - 190:19 Collected - 33:5, 190:6 Collectively - 147:1 4 College - 7:22 Comes - 128:2, 170:2, 176:18, 177:2, 190:4 Coming - 12:23, 18:16, 19:4, 42:12, 62:23, 66:22, 66:24, 67:3, 67:21, 98:6, 130:1, 130:5, 130:6, 202:2 Command - 63:10, 97:23, 175:14, 193:23, 197:15, 211:9 Commit - 48:15, 121:11, 126:17, 164:16, 164:19, 167:4 Committed - 119:19 , 152:6 Committee - 54:2 Common - 20:7, 142:18, 196:16 Communicate - 15: 1, 15:6, 40:22, 41:2, 42:3, 108:6 Communicated - 1 4:25, 15:8, 202:3 Communication - 1 07:7, 110:20, 113:6, 125:4, 145:18 Communications - 132:23, 147:5, 147:6, 147:13, 147:17, 148:16, 148:24, 150:17, 162:3, 162:12 Companions - 122: 9, 122:12 Compare - 21:14, 36:3 Compared - 20:18, 20:21, 21:5, 35:25 Complain - 39:4 Complaining - 39:3 Complaints - 102:6 Complete - 20:11 Completed - 21:16 Completely - 114:1 4 Completing - 82:7 Completion - 20:15 Computation - 75:3 Computer - 105:11, 143:7, 205:14 Concerning - 64:19 , 150:5, 194:20, 215:18, 215:19 Conducing - 36:16 Conduct - 23:7, 70:18, 70:20, 71:6, 72:4, 72:11, 72:15, 72:25, 133:10, 147:23, 171:7 Conducting - 72:22 , 89:15, 89:17, 89:21, 90:9, 169:18, 171:17, 171:23, 172: Conference - 99:17, 100:21, 157:23, 158:1 Confident - 170:1 Conscious - 49:15 Consider - 64:3 Considering - 65:7 Consistency - 200: 25 Consolidated - 187: 17 Constant - 193:3, 193:5 Contact - 189:3, 190:2, 190:12, 190:14, 193:19, 214:4 Contacted - 69:17, 131:12, 190:18, 212:3 Continue - 22:12, 35:20, 87:16, 127:21, 157:5 Conversation - 55: EFTA00114402

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1, 55:13, 102:10, 102:12, 126:19, 126:22, 135:23, 136:7 Conversations - 38 26, 54:15, 56:8, 125:1, 135:24, 136:5 Copy - 182:22 Corner - 153:15 Corrected - 82:12, 83:11, 184:4, 187:24 Correcting - 184:3, 186:23 Correction - 3:21 Correctional - 3:11, 9:21, 9:25, 10:10, 18:3, 41:1, 56:6, 119:25, 200:17 Coulda - 125:23 Couldn't - 49:17, 156:17 Counselor - 10:11, 10:13, 10:19, 11:11, 18:25 Counted - 21:12, 21:24, 77:21, 81:5, 81:20, 88:14, 97:11 Counting - 77:19, 79:24, 81:2 Couple - 16:17 Course - 14:8, 14:18, 15:5, 83:13, 90:19, 93:10, 93:12, 106:23, 127:20, 127:25, 128:4 Court - 47:6, 47:18, 47:19, 62:21, 78:10 Courts - 64:12 Cover - 113:10, 186:25 Covered - 197:16, 197:22 Cracks - 201:22 Create - 188:11, 188:12 Created - 182:13, 182:15, 183:1, 188:7 Credentials - 3:8, 41 Criminal - 5:16 Critical - 58:18 Cuff - 133:22, 135:15, 201:3, 201:15 Current - 7:7, 7:17, 194:7 Currently - 3:2, 10:11, 12:10, 16:14, 24:20, 200:3, 215:25 Custody - 29:6, 29:14, 32:24, 120:16, 156:5, 157:4 a Dah - 83:16 Daily - 14:6, 35:9, 140:1, 201:10 Damn - 122:13 Danger - 205:1 147:25, 148:1, 150:14 Date - 7:11, 8:20, 27:23, 28:1, 34:8, 34:12, 34:15, 42:17, 48:18, 48:20, 53:2, 64:11, 54:13, 64:10, 101:5, 101:6, 137:23, 152:10 Dating - 6:13, 27:20 Days - 16:24, 16:25, 65:16, 149:18, 163:9 Daytime - 158:8 Dead - 126:2 Deal - 80:7, 182:2 Dealt - 59:10, 127:19 Death - 4:16, 126:10 December - 8:12, 10:24, 18:1 Decided - 203:8 Decision - 201:14, 203:3 Decisions - 201:3, 202:2, 202:15, 202:17 Defined - 200:24 Definitely - 42:8, 42:10, 59:3, 60:1, 69:20, 69:24, 204:14 Delivered - 27:13, 157:24, 157:25, 178:25 Delivering - 43:4 Department - 3:5, 3:16, 29:7, 32:24, 147:22, 148:24 Departments - 200: 18 Depended - 43:5 Depending - 73:18, 97:2, 97:8, 97:10, 128:3, 130:1, 149:6, 156:7, 164:11, 185:13, 189:21 Depends - 12:7, 13:7, 27:10, 35:10, 39:15, 41:24, 42:6, 43:3, 45:9, 48:2, 79:22, 95:22, 115:16, 149:4, 155:21, 189:9, 194:17 Depth - 201:12 Described - 18:5, 19:18, 20:4 Describing - 19:25 Designated - 100:2 Desk - 124:2, 152:22, 152:25 Desks - 144:4 Details - 40:20, 40:24, 215:16 Detention - 156:2 Determine - 24:1, 68:6, 130:4 Determined - 65:11, 67:20, 176:4 Detour - 73:25 Didn't’ - 81:23, 90:22, 98:15, 114:8, 132:17, 158:7, 167:4, 172:11, 172:16, 185:4, 214:18 Die - 45:23 Died - 138:2 Difference - 22:13, 108:16, 119:2, 119:7, 119:9, 154:10 Differently - 108:18 Difficult - 65:15 Dint - 186:17 Direct - 187:18 Direction - 159:14 Directly - 42:4, 59:12, 61:5 Director - 119:24 Disbelieve - 87:19 Discharge - 29:7, 76:18 Disciplinary - 5:12, 5:16, 120:14, 156:3, 156:25, 157:2 Discuss - 40:20, 40:25, 132:19, 132:25 Discussed - 27:21, 28:3 Discussions - 135: 2 Disseminate - 205: 11 Disseminated - 201 218, 205:6 Disseminates - 209 125 Disseminating - 20 4:4 Distractions - 41:22 Document - 27:18, 28:6, 52:14, 54:13, 74:23, 75:18, 76:5, 95:6, 99:4 Documents - 28:3, 73:25, 76:3, 95:5 Does - 12:20, 36:6, 47:14, 51:6, 96:23, 106:11, 134:8, 142:15, 146:25, 149:15, 149:18, 170:24, 171:3, 173:5, 175:19, 176:14, 210:25 Doesn't - 32:12, 60:16, 73:6, 111:1, 129:16, 129:18, 142:19, 151:10, 198:1, 198:18, 199:21, 208:23, 209:1, 210:13 Doesn't’ - 169:7 DOJ - 3:22, 4:8, 4:15, 4:20, 4:24 Donald - 119:21, 119:23 Don't’ - 8:19, 164:4, 165:25, 166:21, 166:25, 167:11 Doors - 131:4 Double - 16:15, 90:20 Doubt - 67:4, 170:15, 170:17 Downs - 127:12 Downstairs - 74:12, 161:1 Drop - 190:5 Dropped - 107:18, 107:20 Drugs - 114:2, 114:3 Dry - 77:4, 77:8, 77:11, 77:14 DS - 156:1 Dude - 82:13, 117:14, 179:9, 179:18, 182:7 Due - 162:22 33:25 Durant - 55:24 Duties - 14:6, 14:12, 18:5, 19:18, 20:1, 22:15, 22:24, 72:17, 173:20, 188:15, 202:9, 215:9 Duty - 16:15, 23:20, 63:11, 101:25, 196:20, 196:24 Dying - 135:8, 137:25, 138:2 es Earlier - 101:2 Early - 141:19 Ears - 90:22 Easier - 41:9, 41:12 Eb - 166:6 Education - 7:21 Effect - 178:16 Effective - 42:17 Effort - 210:9 Efren - 57:7, 57:8, 60:21, 61:1, 61:7 Eh - 30:25, 45:18 Eight - 8:6 Either - 33:8, 42:15, 58:4, 65:13, 97:10, 164:11, 168:20, 171:6, 171:20, 214:9 Elevator - 22:17, 165:22 Emails - 105:12, 105:15, 105:23, 106:7, 192:14, 192:18, 192:20, 193:4, 193:11, 205:14, 206:3 Emergencies - 39:2 Emergency - 161:5, 165:21 i - 107:24 Employed - 17:25 Employee - 4:25 Employees - 89:17, 89:19 End - 133:12, 194:24, 195:22, 202:10 Engaging - 159:25 Enough - 15:12, 123:12, 199:23, 201:12, 208:5 Ensure - 174:25, 188:7, 194:9, 211:14 Ensured - 188:4, 211:14 Ensuring - 211:23 EFTA00114403

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Entire - 18:2, 26:22 Environment - 123: 10, 123:20 Epstein's - 57:13, 63:18, 115:8, 152:25 Equal - 175:16 Equally - 167:20 Error - 82:22, 184:19 Escorting - 47:25 Especially - 15:6, 15:7, 15:14, 121:3, 177:8, 210:14 Evening - 24:24, 25:16, 26:5, 26:12, 29:11, 35:13, 44:21, 70:18, 111:25, 112:4, 150:25 Eventually - 50:22 Everyone - 4:6, 109:21, 110:2 Everyone's - 163:2 5, 164:2 Everything - 4:17, 38:18, 72:9, 102:5, 114:6, 115:2, 118:22, 126:9, 127:13, 133:14, 135:13, 164:2, 192:24, 196:15, 200:15, 201:1, 204:20 Everywhere - 26:25 , 27:2 Evidence - 5:15 Exact - 8:20, 48:20, 196:15 Exactly - 22:14 Example - 190:9 Exceed - 18:18 Exchange - 20:12, 158:24 Excuses - 113:14 Executive - 51:25, 54:2, 117:19, 135:19 Exhausted - 16:4 Exhibit - 24:11, 24:12, 34:19, 34:20, 34:22, 35:6 Exhibits - 34:22, 35:3 Exist - 205:3 Existed - 205:2 Expect - 23:21, 40:9, 58:21, 58:24, 59:1, 59:3, 200:16, 201:17, 202:13 Expected - 184:17, 184:20 Expired - 18:21 Explain - 97:14, 116:17, 127:3 Explained - 36:8, 70:14, 72:20, 178:24 Explanation - 127:5 , 127:7, 127:8 Extended - 150:10 Extension - 51:14, 77:15 Extra - 22:5 Eye - 166:15 Eyes - 22:10, 49:14, 81:11, 90:21, 91:13, 96:25, 97:19, 123:4, 124:6, 124:8, 143:20, 154:21, 166:18 a Faced - 120:14 Facility - 18:4 Failed - 120:3 Failure - 5:10 Fair - 134:11, 134:13, 199:23 Fall - 38:17, 156:22 Falling - 201:22 False - 168:13, 168:15, 187:1 Falsification - 172: 25 Falsifying - 169:1, 203:12, 203:16 Familiar - 48:4 Far - 26:7, 37:2, 37:15, 38:12, 98:19, 106:25, 130:14, 139:19, 141:23, 145:1, 148:20, 164:20, 169:22, 175:10, 200:5, 214:20 Favor - 101:4 FCI - 9:1, 11:2 Federal - 3:10, 8:8 Feed - 162:7 Feeding - 161:18, 162:9 Feel - 64:18, 64:20, 64:23, 108:5, 184:23 Feelings - 160:4 Feet - 126:2, 153:2, 164:11 Felt - 90:20 Female - 51:16, 51:17 Females - 160:1 Fernandez - 76:21 Few - 38:23, 39:11, 56:6 Field - 3:7 Fifth - 19:8 Fighting - 114:4 Figure - 89:1, 125:4, 131:19, 182:3 File - 36:5 Fill - 17:2, 17:23, 32:11, 87:24, 90:24 Filled - 182:11, 184:20, 184:23 Find - 75:12, 124:12, 172:10, 172:14, 179:9, 184:8, 184:10, 184:13, 186:19 Finding - 114:1 Fine - 8:24, 102:8, 115:3 Finish - 161:2, 161:3 Finishing - 160:20 First - 5:2, 8:25, 25:6, 53:9, 53:10, 62:14, 63:7, 64:1, 69:16, 118:15, 122:2, 129:12, 150:19, 165:20, 165:22, 167:24, 204:22, 205:8 Five - 35:15, 74:18, 74:20, 127:24 Fix - 34:17, 149:1, 150:2 Fixed - 95:3 Fixes - 148:21 Fixing - 147:8, 148:4, 148:6 Flat - 133:14, 133:21 Flip - 53:11, 75:13, 76:2, 100:18 Floor - 3:20, 26:19, 49:11, 51:9, 51:10, 51:17, 51:18, 76:19, 166:6, 178:16 Focus - 43:21, 44:17 Follow - 17:21, 38:23, 58:21, 59:2, 60:17, 89:22, 108:15, 146:12, 163:18, 172:24, 188:21, 197:19 Followed - 67:18 Following - 56:5, 175:13 Fooling - 122:21, 122:23 Foot - 154:11 Force - 114:9 Forces - 15:14, 114:8 Forget - 121:6, 127:22 Forgot - 215:15 Form - 4:24, 4:25, 6:9, 27:25, 128:13, 200:24 Formal - 201:6 Fort - 7:8 Forth - 214:25 Forward - 6:1, 35:8, 35:22, 69:1, 213:10 Found - 46:3, 46:5, 61:7, 82:21, 82:23, 118:12, 172:18, 202:20 Four - 18:23, 74:11 Fresh - 114:23 Friday - 24:21, 25:3, 27:14, 46:9, 46:16, 46:17, 46:19, 111:8 Front - 105:11, 187:17, 206:18 Furnish - 5:15 Future - 5:15 a | Gate - 20:6, 20:13, 20:16 Gave - 23:19, 97:2 Geared - 92:17 General - 3:6, 3:17, 5:6, 5:8, 22:24, 39:6, 119:10, 156:14, 160:3, 200:8, 200:9, 200:10 Generally - 25:24, 42:13, 42:18, 42:21, 47:23, 188:23 Georgia - 11:6, 11:7 Getting - 38:12, 41:16, 41:18, 53:6, 82:19, 94:21, 114:5, 147:7, 149:13, 177:16, 186:2, 201:23, 211:21 Ghitto - 56:14 Ghost - 97:13 Ghosted - 81:16 Give - 20:24, 21:19, 36:2, 40:8, 40:10, 62:14, 127:7, 127:8, 175:20, 202:18 Given - 18:17, §1:24, 97:12, 135:16, 159:1, 168:2 Giving - 88:25 Glance - 140:6 Glencoe - 8:16 ia - 4:12, 6:16 God - 47:2 Goes - 37:15, 68:8, 148:21, 149:16, 193:20, 201:1, 207:15 Gone - 16:5, 21:11, 62:21, 63:10, 64:13, 65:22, 104:3, 107:25, 112:13, 116:24, 129:3, 162:9, 191:23, 192:14 Good - 21:22, 36:5, 79:14, 86:2, 102:6, 115:5, 196:16 Gotcha - 94:2, 186:14 Gotten - 81:1, 165:10, 165:12, 165:14, 181:2, 193:11 Grab - 190:8 Graduate - 8:13 Great - 27:1, 27:17, 34:2, 191:4 az 66:16, 69:21 Group - 53:15, 69:17, 104:8, 104:9, 104:15, 104:20, 104:21, 137:12 Grueling - 17:4 GS9 - 11:12 Guaranteed - 64:6, 119:14, 121:17, 121:19, 205:12, 205:15 Guard - 20:8, 20:11, 20:12, 20:13, 20:15, 36:11 Guards - 19:20, 20:5, 20:8, 20:22, 21:6, 36:1, 36:9, 36:15, 36:17 Guidance - 39:12, 68:4, 68:13, 77:20, 96:4, 201:6 Guided - 97:8 Guidelines - 38:8, 38:17 Guides - 201:6 Gun - 202:20 Guy - 82:13, 83:10, 83:24, 85:7, 86:13, 86:23, 87:22, 89:2, 134:17, 179:12, 180:1, 180:3, 180:4, 182:2, 182:5, 182:6 EFTA00114404

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Guys - 69:20, 84:1, 102:24, 114:14, 134:17, 136:9, 136:12, 145:18, 147:12, 172:5, 183:23, 198:4 Guys’ - 85:22 Guy's - 85:18 a Hadn't - 77:19, 92:13, 181:2 Half - 37:20, 90:23 Halfway - 101:19 Hand - 6:19, 62:11, 117:20, 138:3 Handed - 105:23 Handing - 34:16 Handle - 194:21, 195:2, 215:3, 215:6 Handled - 195:23, 215:7 Handling - 30:22 Hands - 110:7 Hang - 121:24, 122:13, 170:7 Hangover - 38:1 Happen - 38:19, 45:17, 47:14, 64:19, 126:11, 126:14, 135:16, 176:15, 177:12, 196:12, 202:22 Happened - 49:25, 50:24, 83:9, 94:8, 98:12, 106:23, 108:3, 113:21, 126:9, 126:23, 127:14, 128:4, 129:17, 185:25, 195:22, 200:12, 210:15 Happening - 60:7, 136:8, 139:1, 200:4 Happens - 47:15, 63:25, 188:23, 196:15, 210:1 Hard - 13:23, 38:7, 38:17 Harm - 109:4 Hashed - 82:25 Hat - 160:11 Haven't - 19:6, 74:9, 192:22 Having - 47:5, 58:4, 105:16, 106:25, 143:19, 159:25 Head - 80:23, 98:2 Hear - 18:7, 18:13, 19:15, 160:16, 164:21 Heard - 45:17, 47:7, 90:18, 103:3, 104:9, 151:16, 160:23, 161:4, 171:15, 171:19 Hearing - 151:1 Held - 10:9, 12:9, 12:10 Hell - 114:19 Help - 161:17, 162:7 Helpful - 111:7 Her - 18:2, 18:6, 19:25, 23:11, 28:12, 36:25, 55:10, 138:13, 162:6, 162:10 Here's - 184:16, 185:1 Hey - 84:15, 107:6, 110:25, 117:14, 134:16, 135:9, 137:3, 172:5, 190:8, 197:17, 197:24, 198:16, 199:20, 207:19, 210:9, 212:3, 212:17 Hierarchy - 175:15, 175:21 High - 63:22, 65:7, 65:8, 68:19, 117:22, 119:16, 122:17 Higher - 54:5, 69:8 Highest - 7:20, 214:5, 214:6 Hijacking - 138:5 Himself - 49:7, 86:24, 97:10, 109:4, 121:25 Hire - 14:11 Hm - 94:9 Hmm - 10:17, 17:8, 39:9, 45:13, 74:15, 74:21, 95:14, 113:19, 138:24, 162:21 Hodge - 201:1 Hold - 38:6, 59:6 Holding - 76:18, 155:14, 156:21, 203:2 Hole - 41:15 Holes - 17:22, 47:24 Holidays - 35:16, 35:18 Home - 7:7, 205:14 Honest - 58:1, 60:2, 88:24, 105:14, 125:11, 156:24, 157:13, 157:19, 171:12, 191:17, 192:9 Hot - 157:24 Hour - 37:7, 37:10, 37:20, 65:23 Hours - 13:9, 13:13, 13:15, 16:16, 16:18, 28:13, 30:1, 31:4, 31:16, 130:18, 196:19 House - 93:13 Housed - 53:1, 76:7, 76:17, 77:17, 79:8, 80:3, 170:6, 192:8 Huge - 155:1 Hurt - 49:7 Hurting - 39:5 Hyphen - 4:13 a Idea - 73:15, 74:2, 94:19, 94:20, 146:14 Identify - 4:6, 23:11, 28:9, 28:23, 78:13, 176:19 Ignored - 69:22 rll - 3:8, 5:3, 13:16, 18:14, 21:3, 27:9, 54:10, 62:14, 62:25, 101:13, 102:23, 102:24, 138:3, 157:5, 179:19, 186:24, 190:7 illegal - 72:7 Immediate - 40:18, 117:11 Immediately - 67:23 Implemented - 174: 24 Important - 40:19, 40:24, 60:4, 119:6, 122:18, 123:16, 138:21, 167:19, 167:20, 167:22, 167:23, 193:13, 193:17, 203:22, 205:19, 207:4, 210:8, 215:16 Importantly - 193:1 2 Inaccurate - 180:25 Inches - 154:1, 154:2, 156:15 Incident - 48:23, 55:5, 113:20, 160:17, 161:21, 162:4, 164:15, 165:10, 174:12, 174:20 Incidents - 105:17, 114:11, 177:13 Include - 26:23 Includes - 75:4 Inclusive - 30:19 Independently - 16 7:22 Indicate - 82:2 Indicates - 186:5 Indicating - 194:21 Indiscernible - 6:7, 62:16, 78:8, 138:15, 151:4, 199:25 Individual - 39:20, 42:2, 74:17, 90:1, 90:15, 124:1, 206:25, 214:22 Individually - 41:10, 58:13, 59:4 Individuals - 64:15 Informed - 17:24, 36:15, 49:6, 68:20, 124:18, 199:19, 207:20 Informing - 181:17 Initial - 27:25, 34:7, 54:11, 54:13, 101:6, 101:8 Initialing - 27:19 Initially - 63:13, 63:16, 79:23, 102:20 Inmate's - 211:23 Inside - 20:10, 72:8, 139:4, 140:16, 153:6, 153:8, 161:25, 175:18 inside3 - 155:19 Inspector - 3:6, 3:17, 5:6, 5:7 Instance - 26:16, 32:1, 91:15, 92:1, 116:22, 125:15, 130:12, 132:11, 144:13, 168:4, 212:18 Instances - 205:3 Instead - 63:6 Institutions - 205:2 Instructed - 87:7 Instructing - 52:10 Instruction - 52:5, 97:3, 196:7 Instructional - 196: 7 Instructions - 39:12 , 40:7, 40:11, 40:25, 41:3, 42:25, 47:5, 51:24, 88:7, 97:12, 97:20, 128:13, 128:15, 128:16, 148:16 Intake - 77:22, 78:3 Intel - 202:19 Intentions - 64:17 Interact - 151:20, 151:21 Interacted - 152:7, 159:19 Interaction - 152:6, 159:17 Interactions - 152:4 , 158:7 Intercom - 16:9, 190:24 Interfere - 78:22 Internals - 21:23 Interrupt - 18:14 Interview - 3:10, 3:19, 4:4, 4:20, 5:11, 6:2, 6:17, 6:21, 18:4, 19:17, 38:22, 39:11, 72:21, 72:24 Interviewed - 3:15 Interviews - 109:19, 133:9 Into - 4:16, 20:9, 21:25, 30:16, 43:13, 44:18, 101:14, 103:21, 134:19, 179:17, 194:4, 204:23 Investigation - 3:18 . 4:16, 5:5, 5:6, 5:9, 17:10, 60:21 Involved - 42:24, 47:21, 47:25, 120:1, 164:14, 208:15 Irregular - 37:3, 37:8, 37:17, 38:4, 38:14 is1541 - 99:6 Island - 9:1, 9:3, 9:19 Isn't - 103:25, 121:8, 170:21, 186:18 Issue - 76:12, 76:14, 78:19, 82:12, 84:5, 110:18, 126:18, 130:24, 176:14, 176:16, 193:3, 193:6 Issues - 36:19, 159:15 Items - 155:19, 156:7, 157:9, 157:11 It'll - 76:4, 196:12 Its - 37:15 Itself - 188:14 EFTA00114405

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I've - 11:22, 12:10, 13:23, 19:12, 53:9, 53:10, 80:11, 93:7, 122:11, 123:9, 128:1, 136:6, 152:5, 154:7, 156:14, 183:22, 187:23, 192:3, 192:4 re Jay - 55:24 Jean - 56:1 Jeffrey - 4:16, 48:5, 60:22 Jermaine - 55:7 Jessant - 11:3 Jessup - 11:2, 11:4, 11:5, 11:6, 11:13, 11:16, 12:2, 19:2 Jesus - 151:3 Job - 5:9, 120:3, 139:6, 140:1, 148:11, 193:4, 202:13, 202:14, 214:24 Joiner - 66:16 Judgment - 196:17 July - 10:15, 10:16, 48:20, 48:21, 53:4, 57:20, 103:19, 164:14, 210:14, 210:22, 213:4 Jump - 138:7, 138:18, 150:22 June - 3:2, 3:18, 216:1 Justice - 3:6, 3:17 Justify - 131:20, 131:23 a __ Keep - 13:23, 19:14, 38:8, 48:4, 65:2, 76:4, 100:23, 118:24, 122:20, 123:19, 133:10, 134:17, 134:18, 187:17, 193:3 Kept - 185:12 Key - 14:24, 20:11, 98:8 Kill - 164:22, 167:2, 167:7, 170:8 Kind - 5:23, 49:13, 68:4, 82:25, 134:7, 154:23, 155:18, 156:21, 166:8, 166:16, 200:11 Knowing - 98:5, 135:13, 146:6, 169:6, 169:21, 169:22 Knowledge - 6:23, 36:23, 106:25, 214:22 Known - 47:4, 63:3, 63:4, 63:9, 63:13, 63:16, 63:17, 122:11, 129:13, 132:9, 181:22, 191:18, 207:21, 208:6, 213:15 Knows - 60:4, 60:8, 60:17, 193:16, 205:23, 206:5 Lapse - 60:7 Large - 154:22 Last - 3:23, 4:7, 159:18 Late - 16:25, 141:18, 160:19 Later - 101:20, 106:23 Lateral - 11:12, 12:3 Layout - 153:2 Lead - 176:6 Least - 17:5, 41:17, 80:21, 91:6, 107:6, 137:2, 137:16, 210:8 Leave - 11:22, 12:24, 13:5, 21:13, 45:7, 65:17, 96:17, 96:19, 160:10, 188:17 Leaves - 96:18 Leaving - 78:7, 78:10, 100:4, 126:19, 131:21 Legal - 151:12, 151:17 Lets - 41:20 Letting - 134:15, 211:10 Level - 7:20, 135:20, 202:11, 203:4, 214:6 Lieutenants’ - 40:2 Lieutenant's - 18:2 2, 59:6, 67:12, 67:15, 67:16, 98:2, 139:22, 139:23, 142:3, 143:14, 143:17 Life - 203:7 Light - 153:12 Likely - 53:15, 163:6 Limited - 157:11 Line - 35:22, 41:8, 119:23, 151:10, 151:12, 151:17 Linens - 158:19 Lineup - 99:11 List - 16:7, 20:19, 20:22, 21:5, 35:25 Literally - 50:7 Little - 7:6, 10:4, 37:25, 114:20, 154:24, 179:1, 196:8 Live - 38:18, 141:24 Load - 202:7, 202:8 Loaded - 202:20 Logging - 81:6 Long - 8:7, 9:2, 10:2, 11:15, 50:18, 50:19, 83:15, 123:12, 167:16, 214:23 Looking - 24:21, 27:19, 29:3, 49:13, 49:22, 63:10, 111:8, 115:21, 140:3, 140:4, 140:12, 148:19, 160:25, 179:17, 196:24 Looks - 44:7, 46:10, 100:20, 103:15, 104:8, 104:21, 109:20, 111:9, 111:11, 116:23 Lower - 74:16, 74:19 Lying - 49:10, 166:5 a Ma'am - 187:7 Mad - 211:14 Main - 20:6, 124:14, 138:9, 193:19 Mainly - 22:21, 78:2 Maintain - 64:7, 159:2, 166:19 —s - 65:3 Making - 15:7, 38:5, 38:10, 38:20, 39:3, 39:7, 41:17, 60:9, 73:15, 73:23, 107:15, 151:2, 207:25, 211:25, 212:1 Male - 88:8 Males - 88:9 Man - 47:24 Management - 39:1 3, 51:24 Mandated - 15:21, 15:25, 17:1, 164:2 Mandations - 15:20 , 16:2 Mandatory - 16:3, 16:12, 72:14 Manifest - 188:14 Manner - 112:17, 149:13, 201:24 Mans - 22:17 Manual - 42:20, 196:7 Many - 8:5, 13:22, 16:18, 35:8, 74:7, 75:4, 79:17, 79:18, 80:19, 80:24, 81:19, 85:25, 86:16, 86:17, 127:18, 127:20, 158:18, 173:22 Map - 74:1 Mark - 24:11, 34:19, 35:3 S| 26:6, 26:14, 27:16 Master - 20:19, 20:22, 21:5, 35:25 Match - 36:6 Matches - 36:5 Mates - 130:20 Matter - 17:14, 18:17, 129:18, 203:25 Maximum - 64:4 Maybe - 22:7, 96:21, 115:11, 117:18 MCC - 12:14, 13:18, 18:20, 19:7, 19:20, 20:2, 35:9, 36:11, 45:18, 57:8, 61:2, 64:2, 139:4, 140:16, 170:6, 200:4, 200:12 Meals - 157:24 Means - 44:10, 64:11 Meant - 137:1 Measure - 154:8 Measurements - 15 4:15, 154:18, 155:12 Medical - 27:3, 39:1, 51:11, 51:12, 51:14, 51:18, 158:16, 161:5 Meet - 17:9 Meeting - 17:12, 17:16, 59:7, 108:2 Meetings - 54:2 Member - 81:18, 96:13, 123:22, 148:22, 170:15, 170:20, 177:14, 184:2 Members - 60:11, 92:17, 123:4, 141:14, 142:6, 161:16, 171:16, 172:1, 200:16 Memo - 109:9, 165:13 Memorandum - 42: 15, 42:16 Mention - 54:14, 61:12 Mentioned - 34:7, 72:23, 103:2, 128:12, 136:1, 137:18, 138:20, 163:25, 164:24, 165:2, 191:7, 198:23, 201:25 Message - 42:5, 58:15 Metropolitan - 3:21, 18:3 Michael - 50:14, 55:22, 56:16, 56:22, 162:3 Mid - 71:5, 71:10, 71:11, 71:18, 71:19, 71:23 Midnight - 13:14, 19:21, 28:21, 28:22, 28:24, 30:12, 33:19, 44:8, 76:11, 76:13, 80:14 Might - 61:5, 76:3, 215:17 Miguel - 56:24 Military - 8:1 Mind - 27:17, 27:19, 77:21, 114:3, 127:19, 166:21, 187:5 Minute - 21:1, 31:24, 102:13 Minutes - 36:17, 37:11, 37:23, 37:24, 127:24 Miscounted - 22:8 Mispronounce - 56: 13 Miss - 31:1 EFTA00114406

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Missed - 215:17 Mm - 10:17, 17:8, 39:9, 45:13, 62:24, 74:15, 74:21, 94:9, 95:14, 113:19, 138:24, 152:21 Mode - 166:19 Moment - 150:13, 159:11 Monday - 15:22, 150:2, 150:6 Monitor - 3:21, 141:12, 141:25, 142:14, 143:5, 146:19 Monitoring - 65:23 Monitors - 124:2, 144:4 Month - 8:23 Months - 8:16, 9:5, 9:23 More - 15:8, 16:18, 17:6, 40:3, 40:23, 53:15, 56:6, 76:3, 95:5, 99:4, 130:10, 133:7, 135:20, 137:16, 162:19, 163:6, 167:19, 187:16 Most - 27:12, 121:2, 183:25, 193:12, 209:4 Move - 6:1, 35:8, 35:22, 49:12, 54:10, 68:25, 70:17, 74:23, 78:6 Moved - 66:8, 67:22, 95:19, 98:9, 98:11, 98:13, 98:15, 136:24, 177:13 Moving - 22:18, 22:21, 95:25, 130:23 Much - 15:17, 15:18, 34:3, 62:22, 105:24, 106:1, 106:3, 114:17, 130:24, 193:6, 193:7, 214:23 MYM - 104:1 Myself - 6:9, 88:25, 89:6, 89:8, 179:19, 180:11 CN) Name - 3:4, 3:23, 4:7, 6:4, 6:5, 6:10, 6:15, 21:20, 25:11, 28:1, 53:13, 56:13, 62:2, 75:19, 76:25, 150:20 Named - 147:25 Names - 34:6, 54:14, 54:23, 56:6, 61:4, 61:12, 70:14 Naming - 62:2 Narrow - 154:25 Nature - 30:24, 120:17, 127:15, 158:1 Navy - 8:4 Necessarily - 215:3 , 215:6 Neck - 166:10, 166:12, 166:23, 167:5, 167:14 Needed - 33:15, 42:23, 52:10, 58:7, 90:12, 90:20, 102:25, 109:23, 109:25, 135:5, 149:2, 161:17, 161:18, 177:17, 177:23, 179:8, 179:14, 207:22 Needing - 54:17, 55:2, 55:14, 103:4, 135:2, 192:7 Needs - 36:6, 52:25, 59:22, 60:5, 64:19, 64:24, 65:1, 107:7, 136:10, 137:10, 207:5 Neither - 151:25 Next - 18:23, 70:19, 160:2, 165:11, 165:15, 176:20, 195:1, 214:10 Nice - 111:3 Nights - 15:16, 23:21, 24:17, 24:18, 158:6, 163:3, 163:4, 210:14 Nighttime - 43:11 Nine - 120:6 Nobody - 82:8, 89:9, 96:18, 96:20, 100:17, 143:21, 144:22, 187:1 Noel - 56:18, 80:17, 86:4, 86:6, 88:21, 91:15, 102:2, 132:1, 162:3, 162:5, 168:9, 171:6, 175:14, 189:3, 190:18, 198:10, 203:2 Non - 29:6, 29:14, 32:23 None - 80:8 Nope - 162:1, 202:25 Nor - 151:25 Normal - 40:16, 151:7, 151:8, 151:11, 157:10 Normally - 30:17, 47:16, 70:2, 139:25 Note - 85:2, 107:23 Notes - 167:16 Nothing - 6:20, 16:13, 22:3, 41:23, 72:7, 90:11, 122:3, 133:18, 136:23, 187:25, 194:19, 201:8, 205:15 Notice - 38:10, 146:1 Notified - 62:23, 111:5, 115:11, 115:12, 115:13, 117:1, 117:2, 117:24, 132:3, 132:5, 132:12, 134:1, 134:4, 134:6, 135:9, 148:7, 178:17, 194:9 Notify - 48:1, 66:3, 82:22, 134:10, 134:25, 146:11, 199:2 Notifying - 134:14 November - 11:18, 11:19, 19:13 Numbers - 20:17, 20:18, 20:21, 21:4, 25:22, 35:24, 85:6 [__o Oath - 6:18 Observation - 50:2, 51:1, 52:25, 103:18, 103:21, 104:15, 162:21, 162:22 Observed - 167:14 Obtain - 188:21 Obviously - 121:25, 131:6 Occasion - 137:16 Occurred - 62:10, 112:23, 113:6, 125:8, 125:9, 126:10, 191:6 Occurring - 126:14 Offhand - 163:7, 167:11 Official - 3:16, 4:15, 23:20, 36:13 Officially - 13:11, 13:13, 15:24, 16:15, 16:16 Often - 40:3 Oh - 34:9, 45:8, 46:15, 47:2, 80:5, 99:16, 101:11, 120:6, 140:21, 144:11, 181:4 OIG - 3:22, 4:8, 4:15, 4:21, 4:24 Old - 120:11 Once - 17:20, 20:10, 21:11, 23:1, 82:12, 89:16, 121:11, 177:19 Ones - 59:24, 141:25, 143:19, 147:5, 168:9, 168:10, 168:12, 168:25, 169:8, 169:16, 193:19, 212:22 One's - 145:10 Ooh - 14:22 Open - 20:7, 152:17, 153:9, 153:17, 153:18, 153:20, 166:15 Opening - 131:4 Operates - 147:23 Operating - 116:6 Operations - 14:3, 14:5, 73:4, 73:7, 118:10, 195:1 Operative - 145:24 Opinion - 123:1, 123:6, 123:7 Opposed - 89:20, 90:8, 104:23 Ops - 51:4, 64:23, 114:11, 115:12, 115:13, 134:8, 134:9, 194:3, 195:21, 197:17, 207:7, 207:21, 210:18, 212:21, 213:25, 214:10 Order - 53:19, 152:17, 205:9 Orders - 175:20, 201:11, 202:1 Ordinary - 118:15 Original - 82:5, 82:9, 193:21 Originally - 64:1, 79:2, 108:6, 164:15, 177:16 Our - 4:19, 13:8, 13:13, 15:24, 40:17, 51:18, 60:20, 64:3, 85:6, 90:19, 90:21, 90:24, 92:18, 99:3, 133:12, 140:11, 143:13, 192:25, 193:20 Outcount - 79:7, 79:13, 82:14, 99:18, 99:22 Outside - 16:10, 20:16, 30:23, 30:25, 144:20, 146:20, 159:3 Over - 9:24, 10:4, 11:12, 11:24, 12:3, 16:9, 41:14, 92:6, 98:2, 99:19, 113:17, 132:24, 138:4, 176:11, 190:5, 190:7, 190:24, 202:12 Overnight - 24:9, 43:8, 46:20, 71:20, 71:21, 179:13 Oversight - 92:5, 184:24 Overtime - 14:11, 16:3, 16:4, 16:5, 16:8, 16:10, 16:11, 16:12, 26:11, 29:8, 29:11, 32:23, 33:18, 34:1, 90:24, 163:22, 164:1 Overwhelmed - 114 115 Overwhelming - 11 4:14 Owe - 122:3, 122:6 Own - 37:15, 95:25, 123:1, 180:10, 202:8 a Page - 180:23, 205:5 Pages - 53:12, 104:17 Pain - 39:4 Pairs - 159:7 Paper - 155:14 Parkway - 7:9 Part - 3:16, 5:4, 5:18, 17:24, 27:12, 72:16, 183:25, 184:25 Participate - 54:2, 94:5, 94:7 Participating - 89:2 0, 94:13 Particular - 21:14, 21:19, 77:18, 113:17, 156:16, EFTA00114407

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198:7 Partly - 121:9, 121:24 Pass - 42:5, 127:12, 128:2 Passed - 45:24, 80:9, 194:25 Passing - 41:19 Past - 98:24, 171:7 Pawn - 200:22 Pending - 157:1 Per - 16:22, 16:23, 20:4, 69:5, 72:25, 89:16, 90:7, 91:7, 92:24, 97:16 Perfect - 115:15, 128:19, 186:13 Performance - 5:9 Performing - 173:2 0 Period - 4:18, 16:19, 57:15, 91:25, 118:20, 131:3, 140:15, 150:9, 150:11, 183:23, 192:7 Personal - 106:25, 123:1, 123:6 Personally - 184:6 Person's - 197:18 Pertains - 5:9 Pertinent - 206:4 Phone - 7:18, 41:15, 149:5, 149:7, 151:2, 151:9, 151:13, 205:21, 205:22 Phones - 114:2 Phonetic - 29:10, 33:17, 52:17, 54:19, 107:25, 147:25 Physically - 47:25, 81:12, 181:24 Pick - 21:23, 22:23, 26:17, 26:21, 165:23, 184:25, 188:24 Picked - 9:10, 19:1, 22:1, 26:8, 82:8, 182:18, 182:19, 184:13, 184:15, 185:7, 185:10, 185:24 Picking - 27:5, 33:20, 117:20 Pickup - 36:10 Picky - 149:9 Piece - 155:14 Pill - 158:11, 158:15 PIN - 151:11 Placed - 36:10, 50:1, 50:3, 50:25, 64:2, 64:5, 65:9, 103:21, 104:18, 104:19, 108:7, 108:13, 120:2, 120:10, 155:20 Places - 20:12 Please - 3:24, 4:6, 6:4, 6:19, 6:24, 18:9, 18:13, 19:15, 24:19, 25:9, 56:14, 150:23 Plus - 16:20, 30:22 Podge - 201:1 Pointing - 99:24 Polices - 156:13 Policy - 42:9, 42:13, 72:18, 72:19, 90:11, 97:16, 122:6, 156:9, 156:13, 156:14, 156:15, 158:22, 159:9, 176:12, 176:14, 200:3, 200:11, 200:24 Population - 14:8, 14:18, 119:11 Port - 22:1, 82:7 Portion - 141:24 Position - 9:6, 9:7, 9:20, 12:6, 12:9, 12:10, 12:14, 18:18, 19:1, 19:19, 21:23, 29:12, 62:7, 108:23, 118:12, 150:15, 157:6, 203:8, 207:19 Positions - 10:9, 202:6 Possibility - 179:22 Possible - 15:18, 70:9, 70:12, 113:3 Possibly - 100:3, 185:7 Post - 162:10, 163:6, 201:11 Posts - 17:3 Potential - 170:7, 205:1 Potentially - 148:3 Power - 200:15 Practice - 151:7, 151:8 Predict - 38:19 Premises - 161:7 Prepared - 36:9 Present - 3:22, 24:3, 28:7, 206:7 Presents - 130:24 Pressure - 5:22 Pretty - 62:22, 149:17 Prevent - 121:12 Prevented - 109:3 Previous - 72:21, 72:23, 158:22, 159:5 Previously - 17:9, 157:5, 197:16 Print - 6:5, 6:10 Printed - 75:6 Printing - 6:15 Prior - 7:23, 18:16, 55:4, 94:20, 94:23, 95:19, 135:3, 135:7, 135:8, 137:21, 137:24, 138:1, 174:20, 192:6 Prison - 47:20, 159:23, 160:5 Prisoners - 20:10, 20:14, 20:19, 36:18, 36:20 Prisons - 3:11, 8:8, 17:25 Privileges - 158:4 Probably - 8:16, 9:4, 35:1, 45:9, 45:10, 67:21, 71:5, 71:25, 94:12, 101:22, 106:5, 117:5, 117:12, 160:21, 184:24, 192:21, 194:15, 195:4, 204:17 Problem - 35:4, 43:23, 48:3, 50:21, 54:8, 71:14, 74:7, 81:18, 81:20, 98:22, 100:22, 178:11, 184:2 Problems - 148:20 Procedure - 42:9, 42:14, 59:18, 70:3, 116:7, 118:14, 173:18, 200:25 Proceedings - 5:16, 5:17 Process - 87:16, 174:8, 206:14, 206:17 Professional - 123: 6 Profile - 63:22, 65:7, 65:9, 68:19, 117:22, 119:16, 119:17, 122:18 Promises - 5:21 Promoted - 10:12, 10:19, 18:1, 18:17, 19:3 Promotion - 11:8 Pronounce - 3:23 Proof - 167:9 Properly - 202:3 Protective - 120:16, 156:5, 157:4 Provide - 4:19, 4:23, 5:1, 5:4, 98:21, 187:1 Provided - 88:7, 137:3, 168:12, 173:11 Providing - 93:19, 168:13, 168:15, 168:19 Psych - 50:1, 51:4, §1:21, 52:10, 52:25, 64:22, 104:14, 162:21, 162:22 Psychologist - 52:2 0 Psychology - 59:2, 60:25, 67:12, 107:14, 107:17, 107:22, 108:18, 123:17, 131:13, 191:12, 207:13, 209:14, 209:19 Pulled - 162:10 Purpose - 121:20, 121:23, 205:10, 205:24 Purposes - 28:3, 99:2 Pursuant - 5:7 Putting - 34:12, 91:13 [a Quarterly - 163:6 Questioned - 130:2, 165:4, 180:25, 198:6 Questioning - 181: 16 Quick - 70:8, 70:11, 73:24 Quickly - 48:25, 149:15, 149:18 es RA - 78:15, 78:16, 78:21, 78:23, 79:3, 95:15, 95:16, 95:23, 95:25, 100:14 Raise - 6:19 Random - 122:20 Range - 20:8, 20:14, 21:12, 21:13, 21:14, 21:16, 36:18, 142:6, 142:22, 143:1, 143:3, 143:20, 143:22, 144:13, 145:4, 146:10, 146:13, 162:9 Ranges - 142:23 Rank - 19:4 Rather - 85:22, 86:4, 202:7 Read - 5:2, 17:20, 19:24, 52:14, 58:14, 58:22, 61:4, 105:11, 105:15, 105:23, 106:9, 192:24, 193:8, 193:11, 204:12, 205:13, 205:15, 208:22, 208:23 Reading - 35:21, 53:22, 181:8 Real - 111:7, 112:16, 142:1 Realized - 80:1 Really - 15:10, 41:9, 41:16, 124:12, 134:19, 142:8, 149:17, 160:25, 162:7, 165:9, 172:5, 181:15, 187:25, 200:20, 207:20 Reasons - 156:6, 171:6 Reassigned - 130:2 1 Rec - 158:25 Receive - 20:23, 21:6, 36:2, 39:13, 42:15, 52:4, 192:17, 192:18, 192:20 Received - 77:20, 129:24, 138:11, 204:12 Receiving - 29:7, 52:9, 76:17, 105:6, 105:8, 192:13 Recipients - 53:12 Recommend - 65:2 Record - 4:7, 20:17, 20:19, 20:24, 25:10, 36:3, 155:13 Recorded - 4:5, 20:21, 21:4, 35:25, 36:20, 182:20 Recorder - 3:1, 216:3 Records - 79:16, 99:3 Recount - 82:15, 82:16, 87:8, 87:11, 87:13 Rectify - 163:10 EFTA00114408

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Redo - 88:15 Refer - 42:23, 167:15 Reference - 164:24 Referred - 75:18, 75:19, 75:20 Reflected - 75:16, 177:18, 178:1, 182:23 Regard - 17:13, 52:5, 55:1, 55:14, 62:4, 203:5, 215:13 Regarding - 17:10, 51:25, 54:16, 58:7, 87:18, 116:15, 136:5, 148:16, 160:4, 196:17, 198:21, 201:8 Region - 119:20, 135:18 Regional - 119:24 Register - 52:24 Regular - 120:11, 157:10, 157:25 Regulations - 198:2 1 Reign - 114:25 Relay - 149:8, 208:1 Release - 64:13 Released - 64:22, 66:22, 67:2, 68:24, 115:8 Relied - 122:19 Relief - 13:8, 114:21 Relieve - 13:15 Relieved - 12:25, 110:24, 111:3, 111:10, 111:13, 111:16, 111:19, 111:20, 111:24, 112:5, 112:8 Relieving - 45:9, 126:20, 126:21, 212:21, 212:25, 213:25 Rely - 205:8 Remained - 18:22 Remove - 65:11 Repair - 149:1 Repeat - 7:1, 21:3, 33:22 Rephrase - 7:1 Replace - 149:1, 149:20 Report - 13:19, 17:19, 23:8, 40:21, 41:2, 69:6, 97:21, 197:14 Reported - 69:24, 94:25, 146:9, 149:25, 178:6, 197:15, 197:20, 197:22, 197:23, 203:25 Reporting - 204:19 Reports - 145:25 Requested - 5:1 Require - 202:6 Requirement - 61:8 , 66:1, 90:6, 92:4, 103:3, 103:8, 125:2, 188:19, 188:20, 191:9, 203:24, 210:18 Requirements - 58: 4, 92:16, 138:11 Requires - 65:4, 111:6 Requiring - 56:8 Reread - 35:21 Resign - 9:10 Resigned - 9:5, 9:7 Resolved - 149:16 Respective - 22:1, 73:11, 99:25 Respond - 15:13, 22:22, 49:18, 114:9, 161:10, 165:21, 166:1, 166:18 Responding - 164:1 4, 165:18 Response - 4:17 Responses - 136:2 1 Responsibilities - 1 9:19, 107:21, 176:10, 200:18, 200:22, 202:10, 215:9 Responsibility - 66: 3, 66:6, 188:7, 188:10, 189:3, 189:5, 197:13, 198:16, 200:19, 207:18, 214:9 Rest - 56:6, 183:10 Restore - 149:12 Results - 23:9 Return - 20:11, 20:16 Returned - 51:22 Reveal - 170:16 Review - 5:3, 36:12 Reviewed - 93:7 Reviewing - 109:19 Reyes - 57:7, 57:8, 57:9, 60:21, 61:1, 61:7, 106:13, 115:7, 116:24, 194:24 Rising - 166:8 Risk - 64:21, 65:8, 131:24 _ Role - 61:12, 128:19 Room - 3:21, 25:5, 25:6, 25:7, 86:23 Roster - 16:4, 23:20, 24:21, 25:20, 28:8, 28:19, 28:20, 29:4, 34:13, 34:17, 34:18, 62:11, 63:11, 130:10, 196:20, 196:21, 196:24 Rosters - 24:4 Roughly - 149:3, 155:7, 155:14 Round - 36:21, 70:23, 72:25, 73:1, 89:18, 89:20, 89:21, 90:7, 90:9, 101:14, 102:25 Routine - 140:2 Routinely - 19:22 Rules - 37:15, 198:21, 199:6 Run - 102:21 Running - 71:15, 112:17, 113:3, 134:19, 135:14, 149:17, 205:17 Runs - 14:11 Rush - 133:8 Cs] SA - 6:12 Safe - 72:6, 122:20, 123:19 Safety - 14:9, 130:24, 211:23 Sally - San - 9:6, 9:11, 9:24, 10:8, 18:20 Sat - 22:13 Saturday - 15:23, 29:4, 46:12 Saved - 203:6 Saw - 69:15, 167:13, 183:7, 186:11 Says - 52:23, 75:8, 80:17, 87:5, 87:6, 99:12, 99:14, 103:13, 103:17, 158:16, 196:20, 196:21 Scenario - 109:8, 196:11, 196:15 Schedule - 13:12, 29:23, 30:14, 45:6, 63:11, 163:12 Second - 51:8, 51:10, 51:17 Section - 99:23 Secure - 20:13, 20:16 Security - 5:10, 7:14, 14:9, 64:4 Seeing - 53:25 Seek - 68:4, 68:12 Seemed - 180:25 Seemingly - 49:11 Seems - 25:18, 125:2 Seen - 53:9, 53:10, 156:15, 184:6, 186:7, 192:3, 192:4, 192:6, 210:21 Segregation - 156:3 Selves - 122:14 Send - 87:4, 88:15, 88:16, 103:13, 205:9, 205:12 Sending - 108:1, 184:3, 193:14, 205:20, 206:3 Senior - 3:22, 4:10, 216:1 Sense - 11:12, 196:16 Sent - 53:14, 58:6, 103:14, 103:15, 106:4, 107:5, 108:22, 192:12 Sentence - 64:10 Separated - 120:15 Separates - 20:6 Served - 8:8 Service - 8:2, 9:16, 9:18 Services - 119:25, 200:17 Set - 22:10, 37:15, 151:11, 156:9, 156:14, 156:15, 159:1, 160:2 Seven - 9:5 Several - 136:2 Sexual - 160:1 Shanks - 114:1, 114:2 Share - 215:5 Sheet - 20:22, 21:5, 36:1, 78:12 Sheets - 102:25 She's - 23:11, 32:23, 33:1, 44:25 Shocking - 172:20 Short - 49:1, 105:22 Shortly - 162:8 Shoulda - 125:23 Shouldn't - 123:2, 126:1, 159:6 Show - 3:8, 52:13, 73:25, 74:1, 74:23, 95:5, 99:1, 99:3, 142:5, 142:16, 142:22 Showed - 101:11, 192:11 Shower - 158:25 Showing - 45:6, 153:1 Shows - 29:23, 53:12, 111:23, 142:17 Sick - 65:17, 164:6 Sign - 6:4, 16:5, 101:5, 102:22, 102:25, 173:1 Signed - 168:1, 168:7 Signing - 6:7, 6:8, 6:9, 6:13, 6:14 Simply - 36:17, 36:20 Since - 11:20, 11:22, 12:6, 12:8, 13:23, 18:1, 19:11, 19:12, 65:5, 101:11, 125:15, 174:24, 207:16 a - Single - 208:2 Sir - 155:8, 174:12, 185:10, 212:12 Sit - 122:16, 125:19, 127:15 Sitting - 41:15, 64:12, 86:23, 140:8, 140:10, 143:21, 153:3 Situation - 118:14, 194:22, 195:2, 198:8 Situations - 205:1 Six - 8:9, 8:16, 9:5, 9:23 Sixteen - 16:20 Slash - 51:15, 104:14 Slashed - 114:5 Slide - 152:17 EFTA00114409

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Slips - 21:24, 21:25, 22:23, 26:8, 26:17, 26:22, 27:5, 27:13, 33:6, 33:21, 36:9, 183:10, 190:6 Small - 154:25 Smaller - 155:6, 155:16 Social - 7:14 Solely - 173:4, 174:14 Solve - 148:19 Somebody's - 153: 8, 184:25, 187:5 Sometime - 115:8, 160:21 Sometimes - 13:24, 22:4, 27:5, 30:20, 30:21, 33:13, 38:15, 38:16, 40:3, 73:19, 73:20, 189:7, 189:8 Somewhere - 62:20 , 81:5, 86:23, 181:23, 203:9 Soon - 8:14, 70:1, 70:3 Sorry - 19:24, 27:24, 34:15, 34:16, 46:13, 54:12, 54:21, 65:12, 79:21, 83:20, 138:3, 144:11, 148:18, 163:20 SOS - 57:3 Sound - 204:16 Sounds - 72:1, 109:18, 132:15, 133:25, 210:14 Sp - 29:10, 33:17, 52:17, 54:19, 107:25, 147:25 Speak - 101:21, 102:3, 160:7, 172:4 Speaking - 174:6, 192:10 Specific - 27:11, 28:13, 36:14, 73:12, 98:12, 104:25, 105:1, 124:13, 130:12, 140:20, 144:11, 149:9, 160:4, 172:24, 196:19 Specifically - 28:15, 31:15, 44:4, 86:9, 87:1, 88:8, 92:2, 106:12, 108:17, 115:1, 136:16, 144:12, 172:25, 174:3, 174:6, 207:6, 207:8 Speculate - 154:14 Spell - 4:7, 25:9, 25:10 Spend - 90:23 Spending - 78:1 Spent - 18:2, 19:6 Spoke - 86:6, 93:25, 102:12, 102:15, 102:17, 102:19, 165:1 Spoken - 108:2 Spot - 35:21, 149:21, 149:22 SSA - 6:14 Stabbed - 114:5 Staffing - 15:10, 125:24, 131:2 Stake - 207:25, 209:14, 211:24 Stand - 127:21 Standard - 116:6, 118:14 Standing - 116:8, 127:23, 153:7 Start - 4:7, 12:21, 24:23, 35:11, 39:3, 62:15, 62:25, 63:7, 65:25, 80:6 Started - 8:11, 8:17, 10:15, 79:25, 83:14, 111:22, 112:2 Starting - 6:17, 42:15, 42:16 Starts - 15:24, 28:20 State - 176:15 Stated - 5:19, 36:23, 179:1 Statement - 5:14, 5:20 Statements - 171:1 6 Status - 67:20, 77:4, 77:13, 81:20, 81:24, 85:9, 117:22, 155:22, 155:23, 156:7, 179:11, 182:7 Stay - 114:20, 130:12, 164:6 Staying - 77:25, 81:25, 180:8 Step - 176:21 Stone - 118:1, 194:20, 201:8 Stood - 50:7 Stop - 38:5, 38:11, 165:23 Stopped - 102:13 Stopping - 198:14 Straight - 51:5 Strictly - 163:15 Stuff - 17:4, 22:20, 30:24, 39:6, 60:10, 102:23, 105:21, 105:24, 114:4, 128:3, 136:8, 142:23, 146:1, 157:24, 161:18, 187:9, 201:11 Submit - 82:17 Submitted - 82:9 Subordinate - 175: 16 Subordinates - 40: 20, 41:1 Subsequent - 21:15 , 23:4, 197:23 Successful - 121:9, 121:13 Such - 41:6 Suits - 127:8 Summary - 17:18, 17:24, 38:22, 49:1, §2:22 Sunday - 15:22, 15:24 Supervise - 14:7, 14:16 Supervised - 14:17 Supervises - 19:20 Supervising - 20:3, 122:7 Supervision - 64:24 , 65:1, 65:5 Supervisor - 13:18, 14:15, 40:18, 72:23, 72:24, 173:24, 194:17 Supervisors - 173:2 3 Surprise - 170:25, 171:2, 171:3 Surprised - 172:10, 172:14, 172:22 Surrounded - 58:20 Surrounding - 126: 10, 130:3 Swear - 6:19 System - 16:9 Table - 23:22 Taken - 5:13, 52:25, 61:14, 62:3, 84:6, 84:7, 96:10, 117:11, 129:8, 129:10, 130:17, 131:10, 138:14, 147:7, 183:9, 187:12 Takes - 176:6, 202:12 Taking - 93:10, 93:22, 175:5, 177:9 Talk - 15:19, 43:23, 138:22 Talked - 132:16, 208:7 Tap - 49:12 The - 208:22 Teaches - 201:6 Team - 27:6 Technically - 43:10, 95:20 Telephone - 3:20, 132:24 Tells - 196:8, 199:4, 199:7, 206:16 Temporarily - 117:2 3, 118:8 Temporary - 18:18 Ten - 10:4, 10:6, 144:9 Terminal - 9:1, 9:3, 9:19 Terms - 176:12 Than - 17:6, 40:3, 53:15, 79:8, 85:22, 86:4, 135:21, 155:6, 155:16, 163:6, 167:19, 170:19, 171:24, 174:13, 202:8, 204:25 Thank - 3:9, 4:2, 6:6, 6:8, 6:12, 6:16, 6:24, 7:5, 7:11, 8:2, 28:6, 34:2, 35:19, 74:22 Themselves - 4:6, 104:24, 118:12, 123:24, 170:8 Theoretically - 77:2 5 Thereafter - 210:23 They'll - 27:8, 27:9, 39:6 They've - 21:16, 190:6, 214:23 Thing - 41:6, 56:7, 93:8, 93:14, 108:7, 114:20, 134:3, 135:20, 154:22, 165:11, 165:15, 179:17, 185:1, 196:8, 209:21 Thinking - 89:7, 179:19, 197:2 Third - 3:20, 76:19, 178:15 Thomas’ - 189:3 Though - 26:24, 28:13, 81:10, 81:11, 86:9, 90:20, 91:2, 107:12, 108:5, 109:14, 124:13, 132:12, 141:5, 154:6, 180:21, 180:24, 186:10, 192:11 Thousand - 186:25, 188:14 Threats - 5:21 Three - 18:23, 104:17, 154:11, 159:7, 213:13 Throughout - 14:11 , 14:14, 22:20, 22:22, 22:24, 23:1, 201:18 Throwing - 187:3 Thursday - 150:1 Tied - 38:4 Tier - 74:17, 162:9 Tiers - 74:8, 74:11, 74:13, 74:14, 74:18, 74:20 Tight - 15:15 Tighter - 15:16 Times - 36:14, 54:17, 61:9, 65:23, 114:10, 124:6, 124:8, 136:2, 136:8, 166:15, 186:25, 196:24, 201:2, 202:12 Title - 4:24, 150:18 Toby - 162:3 Today - 3:18, 34:15, 42:17 Toe - 193:24 Together - 83:1, 175:23 Toggle - 143:9, 143:10 Ton - 205:14, 206:13 Too - 24:9, 43:18, 44:9, 105:24, 106:1, 106:3, 130:24 Took - 9:5, 117:15 Top - 27:25, 34:8, 99:11, 101:7 Topic - 138:7, 138:19, 177:21 Tougher - 175:20 Tova - 56:18 Toward - 92:17 Towards - 99:19 EFTA00114410

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Track - 13:23 Training - 8:14 Transcript - 28:4 Transfer - 9:8, 11:1 Transferred - 10:25, 11:8, 11:24, 18:24 Transfers - 11:20 Transpired - 49:2 Trays - 157:24, 157:25 Tried - 15:18, 49:7, 164:15, 164:19, 167:2, 167:9 Trip - 38:9, 38:15 True - 21:8, 170:17 Trump - 119:21, 119:23 Truth - 6:20 Try - 7:1, 7:2, 43:21, 114:25, 121:12, 184:8, 186:19 Turned - 173:14 Turning - 216:3 TV - 141:12 Twenty - 8:9 Twice - 102:18, 132:16 Type - 42:19, 64:24, 65:1, 65:4, 108:9, 123:19, 129:24, 133:11, 176:16, 202:17, 202:21 Types - 157:9 Typically - 29:20, 29:21 a Uh - 159:24 Ultimate - 197:13, 207:18 Um - 31:6, 32:6, 33:12, 40:14, 43:25, 49:3, 57:25, 69:25, 79:1, 89:4, 100:10, 100:25, 113:20, 14:17, 157:12, 161:4, 166:3, 202:6, 207:13 Unauthorized - 72: 8, 151:18 Unaware - 106:11 Unconscious - 166: 20 Under - 6:18, 156:22, 202:7 Underage - 160:1 Understand - 5:18, 5:24, 5:25, 6:25, 35:7, 38:14, 74:3, 81:7, 128:7, 209:18 Understanding - 12 1:10, 164:19 Understood - 13:17 , 38:21, 39:8, 81:7 Units - 37:16, 60:10, 73:12, 75:3, 75:4, 75:16, 75:17, 100:1 Unless - 22:4, 146:17, 146:23, 153:7, 170:15 Unlock - 20:6 Unread - 192:14 Unresponsive - 166 6 Until - 11:17, 18:23, 39:3, 46:22, 79:25, 82:3, 150:2, 150:6, 197:4 Unusual - 114:1 Update - 103:18, 104:15, 177:15 Updated - 42:20 Upon - 20:15, 69:15, 90:16, 130:5, 183:22 Upper - 39:13, §1:24 Ups - 54:5, 172:24 Upstairs - 74:12 Upwards - 66:4 Use - 114:9, 140:2, 151:12, 196:16 Used - 5:15, 5:23, 117:3, 117:4, 136:9, 137:9, 137:13 Uses - 15:14, 114:8 Using - 151:17 Usually - 37:7, 41:4, 77:11, 119:17, 145:25, 149:15, 165:20, 177:11 Utilize - 16:14, 139:5, 139:25 Cv) Vacated - 17:3 Vacation - 65:17 Vantage - 153:14 Various - 14:12, 156:6 Verbal - 20:24, 36:2 Verbalize - 58:10, 206:8, 206:12 Verbalized - 207:17 Verbalizing - 180:1 0, 206:24 Verbally - 43:2, 206:1, 207:23, 208:3, 209:4, 209:6, 209:7, 209:9, 209:10 Verbatim - 127:13 Verification - 174:8, 182:12 Verify - 87:17, 88:17, 169:9, 169:11, 173:6, 173:9, 173:16, 174:10, 179:25, 180:3, 180:4, 180:6, 182:6, 206:1, 206:2 Verifying - 179:15 Versed - 200:21 Versus - 87:5, 121:16 Very - 34:2, 150:13 Vetted - 121:22 View - 36:18 Violations - 200:3, 200:11, 200:12 Visibility - 142:8 Voice - 88:9 Voluntarily - 4:18 Voluntary - 4:20, 5:1, 5:11, 16:10 Cw) Wait - 21:1, 31:24, 39:3, 85:15, 150:1, 172:20, 188:13 Waiting - 150:6 Waiver - 5:18 Walk - 20:8, 20:13, 36:18, 106:12, 190:5, 190:7 Walked - 166:7 Walking - 170:3, 205:10 Wanted - 25:4, 25:5, 40:25, 45:1, 70:15, 89:9, 121:22, 123:18, 124:10, 124:12, 145:4, 148:12, 166:19, 180:6, 181:22 Wants - 16:7, 16:10, 117:20 Warden - 191:13, 206:15, 209:20, 212:1, 212:2, 212:6, 212:19, 213:23 Warnings - 4:25, 5:19 Washington - 56:9 Watch/ Psych - 103:18, 104:10 Watches - 144:7, 144:10 Watching - 50:8, 96:20, 121:24, 143:22, 143:25, 144:15, 144:17, 144:22, 144:24, 145:10, 174:4 Water - 165:11, 165:14 Ways - 42:21 Weeds - 114:15 Week - 15:21, 15:24, 35:11 Weekends - 35:15, 35:17 We'll - 7:5, 28:6, 35:22 Wellbeing - 211:24 Went - 8:15, 9:24, 12:2, 18:25, 51:3, §1:4, 62:21, 80:22, 102:13, 109:4, 148:23, 161:1, 161:16, 161:20, 162:7, 165:1, 165:20, 183:10, 193:24 Weren't - 43:10, 71:18, 84:13, 130:15, 149:8, 168:3, 168:23, 181:18 We've - 13:22, 38:25, 83:18, 84:15, 136:1, 136:6, 154:19, 154:20, 181:17 Whatever - 47:20, 59:17, 117:16, 128:5, 149:1, 149:11, 149:13, 153:13, 153:16, 170:8, 179:11, 179:13, 205:18 Whatsoever - 169:1 7 Whereby - 96:4, 208:5 Wherever - 27:3, 181:7 Whether - 21:22, 27:3, 63:17, 73:4, 73:5, 81:24, 81:25, 89:1, 89:2, 107:1, 130:6, 169:3, 174:14, 174:15, 174:16, 198:5, 209:16, 212:1, 212:5 Which - 29:18, 35:17, 46:11, 65:6, 67:4, 68:7, 75:6, 76:7, 96:7, 101:9, 112:18, 131:6, 138:12, 141:11, 149:7, 177:19, 182:24, 201:24, 212:24 While - 38:20, 48:8, 64:12, 74:10, 88:17, 103:23, 179:15, 179:17, 179:20, 180:4, 201:4 Whoever - 16:10, 23:5, 39:16, 40:4, 69:5, 104:7, 109:24, 143:6, 149:5, 193:14, 193:15, 209:9, 211:22, 211:24, 214:2 Whoever's - 126:21 , 201:16 Whole - 19:7, 90:23, 108:7, 140:11, 153:10, 153:18, 181:25, 205:10 Whose - 207:18 Willing - 5:20 Window - 153:8, 153:9, 153:13, 153:17, 153:20, 153:23, 154:8, 154:18, 154:25, 155:1, 155:9, 155:12 Wise - 176:13 Within - 38:8, 38:17, 145:4 Without - 11:21, 83:24, 131:21, 198:11, 214:3 Witness - 6:15 Word - 174:10, 175:6 Worked - 13:18, 14:19, 24:9, 30:10, 31:20, 44:21, 46:21, 98:4, 115:10, 115:14, 123:9, 148:1, 158:6, 183:23, 196:25, 197:3, 197:4 Works - 20:2, 29:6, 29:22, 32:24, 36:9, 105:10, 116:7 World - 112:16, 115:15, 128:19 Woulda - 125:23 Wouldn't - 31:22, 34:21, 35:2, 49:18, 69:22, 91:22, 109:3, 121:15, 140:10, 155:4, 184:1 EFTA00114411

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Writing - 42:13, 201:16, 205:25 Written - 43:2, 118:1, 194:20, 201:8 Year - 8:11, 8:17, 17:6, 18:18, 18:21, 191:2 Years - 8:5, 8:9, 10:5, 10:6, 18:23, 184:10 Yep - 125:25 York - 3:7, 7:9, 19:7 You'd - 193:11 You'll - 196:14 Yours - 130:14 Yourself - 53:23, 64:21, 122:21, 122:24, 135:25, 137:15, 194:4, 204:1, 204:11 Yourselves - 42:11 You've - 16:3, 16:5, 19:10, 60:8, 79:12, 83:17, 127:18, 127:19, 154:5, 186:7, 209:14 a ZA - 75:24, 76:7, 76:9, 76:10 ZB - 76:7 Zero - 95:17, 100:15 Co) "95 - 8:20, 8:21 a 00:03:37 - 6:7 00:27:07 - 29:11 00:31:14 - 33:17 00:49:19 - 52:17 00:51:28 - 54:19 00:58:18 - 62:16 0035 - 75:25 01:14:14 - 78:8 01:39:47 - 107:25 02:01:29 - 138:16 02:07:26 - 147:25 02:09:51 - 151:4 02:48:29 - 199:25 a 1:30 - 62:20, 62:21, 129:3 100% - 133:16 11 - 8:12, 12:3, 12:4, 18:1 11209 - 7:10 12 - 154:1, 154:2, 155:15 12:00 - 29:24, 30:7, 30:10, 32:1, 32:15, 32:21, 33:4, 35:14, 79:17, 79:20, 79:21, 91:16, 92:2, 93:3, 111:22, 112:2, 168:4, 170:23, 196:21 12:30 - 53:5 12:35 - 75:9, 75:10 12:39 - 216:1 12X12 - 155:7 14 - 3:2, 17:13, 216:1 14th - 3:18 15 - 153:2 16 - 16:16, 155:15 16X12 - 155:7 1994 - 8:12, 18:1 1995 - 8:22 a 2:00 - 31:3, 31:11, 31:14, 115:9, 116:23, 197:4, 197:6, 197:9 2000 - 18:19 2001 - 18:19 2005 - 10:15, 10:16 2010 - 10:23, 10:24, 11:7, 18:2 2014 - 11:18, 11:19, 11:22, 19:11, 19:13 2019 - 12:13, 17:13, 24:4, 24:22, 25:4, 28:8, 29:5, 53:4, 75:9, 75:25, 95:9, 99:6, 163:4 2021 - 3:2, 216:1 23rd - 164:14 24 - 65:22 24/7 - 59:25 a 3:00 - 32:1, 32:16, 33:4, 35:14, 91:17, 92:3, 168:5, 170:23, 185:8 30 - 36:16, 37:11, 37:23, 37:24, 53:4 30th - 57:20, 103:20, 210:22, 213:4 30thto - 210:15 3-3-3s - 41:6 ee 4:00 - 30:12, 35:12, 71:23, 99:8, 99:10, 100:8, 101:23, 132:15, 198:15 40 - 36:16, 37:24 a 5:00 - 32:2, 32:16, 33:4, 35:15, 91:17, 92:3, 101:23, 160:13, 160:14, 168:5, 170:23 a 6/14/2021 - 6:13 6/14/21 - 34:16 7:00 - 160:21, 160:22, 160:23, 160:25 72 - 76:1, 79:6, 81:1, 84:2, 85:2, 86:1, 86:17, 87:5, 87:6, 87:22, 88:14, 168:20, 176:25, 177:19, 182:24 75 - 100:10, 100:11 76318-054 - 52:24 8:00 - 13:14, 19:21, 28:14, 28:25, 29:24, 30:7, 30:10, 30:11, 32:22, 33:19, 44:8, 44:25, 115:9, 116:23, 196:22 8:30 - 62:18, 62:20, 66:2, 129:3 8th - 46:25 a 9:33 - 95:9 9:35 - 3:19 9:37 - 3:3 9:38 - 6:13 9315 -7:8 EFTA00114412