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LAW OFFICES OF GERALD B. Lercourt, P.C. A PROFESSIONAL CORPORATION NEW YORK, NEW YORK 10021 GERALDO 6B. LEFCOURT TELEPHONE FACSIMILE SHERYL _E. REICH RENATO C. STABILE WN 4. FRicomaAN February 23, 2007 VIA FEDERAL EXPRESS Assistant United States Attorney Office of the United States Attorney Southern District of Florid West Palm Beach, Florida 33401 Re: Jeffrey Epstein Dear Thank you once again for meeting with us regarding our client, Jeffrey Epstein. As you know, in advance of last Tuesday’s meeting we provided you with the recorded interviews of various witnesses taken in the state’s investigation. At the meeting, we disclosed that, as part of our own preparation, we made working transcripts of these recordings. You have asked for copies of the transcripts and we have discussed various ways that that might be accomplished without compromising Mr. Epstein’s position and rights. To assist in your bringing this investigation to a close, enclosed are highlighted excerpts of the transcripts. The excerpts support our argument that no federal prosecution should be brought in this matter. Please note that these transcripts are drafts and subject to further review and revision. They are provided as a courtesy and in furtherance of our discussions and therefore are not usable by you for any purposes. By accepting these transcripts you agree never to contend that any revisions made thereto compare unfavorably to the drafts provided; nor will you use the drafts otherwise to the detriment of Mr. Epstein. EFTA00087618

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LAW OFFICES OF Gerawp B. Lercourt, P.C. Assistant United States Attorney Office of the United States Attorney Southern District of Florida February 23, 2007 Page 2 The excerpts fall generally into the following five subject areas and are therefore so arranged in the numbered tabs. Note, the witnesses were not all asked the same questions and therefore, not every witness touched on every subject area we here consider relevant!: Tab 1; Mr. Epstein did not ask the women to touch, nor did the women in fact touch, his genitals; Tab 2: Mr. Epstein did not ask the women to engage, nor did they in fact engage, in sexual intercourse with him; Tab 3: Not only did Mr. Epstein not search out women under the age of 18, but the vast majority of the women from whom he received massages during the period were 18 or older. To the extent the witnesses were asked, they admitted being told that Mr. Epstein would not allow them into his house if they were not 18 and that if they were not 18, they were told (by friends, not by Mr. Epstein or anyone employed by Mr. Epstein) to lie about their age. Again, to the extent they were asked in the interviews, they admitted that, if the subject of age did come up in conversation with Mr. Epstein, those under 18 falsely claimed to him that they were 18; Tab 4; Mr. Epstein did not coerce, threaten or otherwise pressure the women in an effort to force them to do anything; to the extent they were asked, they admitted they understood they could decline to accede to any of Mr. Epstein’s requests; and, Tab 5: Prior to going to Mr. Epstein’s home, virtually all of the women were apprised of what they would be asked to do or, if they claimed they were not, they had no objection to what occurred, since they either returned to give further massages or they brought others to do so, or both. ' Of course, irrespective of what any particular witness said at her interview on any particular point, in many instances fanciful claims are contradicted by the witness herself elsewhere in her statement, by documentary evidence, and/or by other witnesses. Moreover, the witnesses suffer from significant credibility problems based on universally accepted tests for credibility: bias, motive, prior bad acts, etc., some of which we have already previewed in the February 1, 2007, letter. EFTA00087619

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LAW OFFICES OF Geratp B. Lercourt, PC. Assistant United States Attorney Office of the United States Attorney Southern District of Florida February 23, 2007 Page 3 Finally, pursuant to your request we have included copies of the full working transcripts of the a recordings. If you have any questions regarding any of the materials we have provided please feel free to contact us. Very truly yours, as / KA f i /( 1 ef $< ' Gerald B. Mefodurt | ce: Deputy Chief, Northern Region , Federal Bureau of Investigation Lilly Ann Sanchez, Esq. EFTA00087620

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IN RE: JBFFREY EPSTEIN DRAFT VIDROTAPED INTERVIEW OF EFTA00087622

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DRAFT 1 and that, I don't know, we just don't talk anymore, Q Which was? , Q ME enc -- A and §- T don't know if QJ nee ever slept with him. I can't speak for her. But he liked her the most. I don’t Know why he liked her the most but it was always QJ working for him. and she wouldn't just bring girls. She would work for him. Q How mack money do you think ahe made? A I Gon't know. She never really -- the first time I brought her she made 200. After that I think she started making like 306. It's not accurate Like I can't -- Q The more you do the more you get paid. A Pretty much, Q I know you said that. But -- A Richt. I think she made 300 after that T think ehe started making Like 300 Q Dose he make the girls touch him cown there? 20 A IT don't know, 21 Q Ie that part of the massage? 22 A [t wasn't with me. He never asked me to touch him 23 ox fondle him. He never asked me 1 don't know if he's 24 ever asked the other girls. It was never really brought up. 25 It was always him touching them, EFTA00087623

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IN RE: JEFPREY EPSTEIN DRAFT VIDEOTAPED INTERVIFT OF EFTA00087624

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Page 195 1 Q Three hundred. And that was the last tine you 2 went? 3 A (Nods head yes | 1 9 hey iD, you didn't have 5S a bra on? 6 A I didn’: have a bra on, ~ a) You didn't have a bra on. And your buttocks? 8 A Uh-huh $ Q Was that over your panties or under your panties? 1S A Like = huve a thong on so. 1 11 Q You had thongs. Okay All right Did he pull 12 you close to him? 13 A Yeah. 14 Q And all this while he was [RP 15 A (Nods head yes.) 16 Q Dic he have you touch hin? No. 20 A fluh-heh . No. 21 Q Did you bring anyone else other shan -- a. a. Do you know QJ Last name? EFTA00087625

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IN RE: JEFFREY EPSTEIN DRAFT VIDROTAPED INTERVIEW a EFTA00087626

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a: 23 24 25 Q vibrators? A Q A Q Q A ° AF They cover enough ‘They don't show too mich Right Okay. You messaged him? Uh-huh, Di¢é he try to touch you in any way? No Dic he introduce any toys or masvagers slash No. Buh-hub Did he ask you to touch him? Just to give him a massage. TI mean -- Oh, no. Huh-huh. No? [C would have said no anyways That's gross. Ckay Did he touch himsel‘? Yeah Okay. And I mean, I mean by touching himasif, did — A Yeah. Okay. Do you know if he [i He did He did. Was that che only rime you ever went? EFTA00087627

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IN RE: JEFFREY BPSTEIN DRAFT VIDEOTAPED INTERVIEW OF EFTA00087628

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—_ DRAFT : A Okay. My bad. 4 Q I was writing that quickly, J. and 1 was Lhinking ; A Okay, That's fine. Q All right. Was there anybody ever at the house that you provided a massage to aside from Jeffrey? A No. No. Q During the massages did: he éver ask ‘you to touch’ £3,7 No Did he touch himself? Yes. Would he be just touching aimself or would he be 1 a: He would. Okay. How would you know that the massage was a i A Yeah, : ‘ Q Again, I've talked to a lot of girls and so far 22 everything seems to be in the norm, so that's why I’m saying 23 don't, I know it's a little embarrassing. 24 Did you ever meet any other girls chat came to the 25 house? EFTA00087629

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IN RE: JEFFREY EPSTEIN b ‘ DRAFT TAPED INTERVIEW OF SE EFTA00087630

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Did he-ever ask: you" to touch Him? A No. (Inaudible) I was: surprised about. that because he never asked but (inaudible) . BY DETECTIVES DAWSCN: Q Ckay Cid you ever see him nude? Naked? A I wasn't paying attention. He got in the shower in front of mc but I wasn't paying attention. Q So you can see -- the shower you could see from the room? A There was the shower and then he has like a bath T£ you come up into his bedroom, 1 don't really remember, but if you come into his room there's a shower, As you come into the bathroom part there's a shower right here. And then a massage table right here And then there was a couch going around right here. And the shower {inaudible) he took a shower and he's like feel comfortable and I was like okay. I don't remember if he asked me to take off my clothes, my top and my bottoms, but I think he did. ['m not ature. I have bad memory It was a long time ago. Q Okay So if you wanted to look, ke would have been naked in front of you; you just made it < choice not to EFTA00087631

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ao bn wo ND B SEG _ © @ 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 Cc NK: DRAFT Detective a a .D. EB reterence case number 05-368. The time now. by my watch, is approximately 6 minutes past 2pm on 3/15/05. (Inaudible) High Ridge Family Conter Just Okay, the fF sstsisiSd Present also Is...could you state your name please? Spell your name please? And your date of birth? > nd you are? Family Therapist. Could you spell your name please? And you're her family therapist? Am | correct? Yes. Okay. I'm here today, i. and | have stated briefly why I'm here is in reference to an incident that happened to a friend of yours, o” a girl you know. Page 1 of 43 EFTA00087632

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10 an 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 23 Are you lying about anything? ‘No I'll swear on the bible. Okay. Swearing to God, that’s good enough for me. | swear to God, Okay. !s there anything else you'd like to talk to me about? Na, because that's about....nathing else about the whole thing. So that's it. You did not have any kind of sex with him. Heck not! | will swear on my mother’s grave... You know what having sex with somebody means? Yes, | know what having sex with somebody means. Okay. You, at no time, touched his penis? At no time did | touch his penis. At any time, did he touch you.... At no time... Besides putting his hands... Besides thal, no times did he touch me. And just so | can be sure, you saw him whacking off ance. Yes, | saw him. Okay. And as far as you think... 1 think, | know, weh, | couldn't say | know, but it's the same noises were being made when he was (inaudible). And that's it. | thank you very much This will conclude the interview. The time now by my watch Is approximately 3:05. Page 43 of 43 EFTA00087633

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IN RE: J=FSREY EPSTEIN DRAFT TAPED INTERVIEW OF EFTA00087634

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DRAFT 2. Q Ckay- 3 A Well, no. it was the second time that I gave ain 4 8 massage. The first time | went up with | | 5 Q Okay. You went uvstairs with JP A No, T was in the kitchen. 7 Q You were in the kitchen That was -- you only had two times that you went trere? 9 A Yeah. 10 G the FRI time you didn't do anything but just sit in the kitcher? A Yeek. 13 @ Whe cid you sit in the kitchen with? A He had a coo« that was there and he had -- there 3 was .ixe two cther gizls there that Live with him. Q Gkay, bid you vassage his back? Was he naked when you were massaging Aim? 18 A Well, he had like a towel around his -- his upper 193 was (inaudible) but he had like a towel around him, Q Okay. Did he ever remove that towel? No, When you were massag:rg him he never removed tne No. f {af TRUE eee ow OF ae . Okay. Bid you + didzhe have’ yoll, touch. hits EFTA00087635

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coon DRAFT 2 A No. No. I wouldn't do that. Q You wouldn’l do that? Ckey. Did he touch you in your private araa? Q BR He kept iikxe staring at me and like, I don't knew, 1 just felt uncomfortable and I -e*t. But I heard other stories thet Like -- Q Right . 1 know about I'm concerned with you olher slories und I've interviewed other people have cold me different things. That's why ['m trying to find oat what happened to you. Okay? A Uh-huh. 15 Q You're the victim in this so that's why I'm trying te find cut whal happens Le you aA Uh-huh. Ckay? Who took you upstairs to the room? This girl QJ that tives with him. z0 Q Ckay. So QR tcok you ap? Yes. 22 Q Dic she tell you anything? Did she say anythin¢c? 23 A Huh-huh, There's a massage table and she just 24 laid a towe_ down and she said thal Jeffrey will be ort far 25 ais massage. EFTA00087636

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10 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 Cc NK: DRAFT Detecive a a ILD. i reference case number 05-368. The time now, by my watch, is approximately 6 minutes past 2pm on 3/15/05. (Inaudible) High Ridge Family Conter jst Okay, the ee. Present also is. .could you state your name please? Spell your name please? And your date of birth? > nd you are? Family Therapist. Could you spell your name please? And you're her family therapist? Am | correct? Yes. Okay, I'm here today, i. and | have stated briefly why |'m here is in reference to an incident that happened to a friend of yours, o* a girl yau Know. Page 1 of 43 EFTA00087638

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er N o Co Ms 10 11 12 13 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 23 DRAFT Are you lying about anything? No. I'll swear on the bible. Okay. Swearing to God, that’s good enough for me. | swear to God. Okay. Is there anything else you'd like to talk 1o me about? No, because that’s about....nothing else about the whole ching. So tat's tt. You:did:inot have! ar a sce with 1 fin * Heck.no!! I willswear on say anche gre. Brg th oF You know wiiathavingrsex vith Somebody means? é: Yes, | know what having'sex with soniebody means: Okay. You, at no time, touched his penis? At no time did | touch his penis. At any time. dic he touch you..... At no time... Besides putting his hands... Besides that, no times did he touch me. And just so | can be sure, you saw him whacking off once. Yes, | saw him. Okay. And as far as you think... | think, | know, well, | couldn’t say | know, but i's the same noises were being made when he was (inaudible). And that’s It. | thank you very much. This will conclude the Interview. “he time now by my wetch is approximately 3:05 Page 43 of 43 EFTA00087639

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IN RE: JEFFREY EPSTLIN DRAFT VINEOTAPED INTERVIF™ OF EFTA00087640

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DRAFT —~ Page 21 (Shakes head no.) c Okay. “his case is basically an irvestication, an open investigeticn, 40 T appraciate it waat we discuss stays hero. Ckay? Jh-hvh, Don't tell anybody Lhat we, ‘nat we talked, Okay . Did you. ever have -any intescoursse with him? Ne. Nc oral? {Shakes head no.) Nethirg? Kething else. Q Osay. I'm going to show you @ group of photographs I'm coing to sxew you a group of six photographs. Okay? I'm tryinc, trying to see if this || is ir these six photos Oxay? Tt's important that. you look at ail six of them ard ba sure who you pick as the person as a. Okay? She may oc may not be in these six photos but it's impertant for you to pick the right one. Skay? A Ja-huh 2 Yake your time looxing at those six photos there. A I don't see her, She's not ic those photos there? No { EFTA00087641

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. DRAFT 1 EE core 2 co: § i \.D. #8059, reference case number 05-368. The tine now, by my watch. is 6 approximately 6 minutes past 2pm on 3/15/05. (Inaudible) °_ 8 UNK: Just 0 [EE okay, ne IE Present also ts. .could you state your name e 10 please? 1 12 i Spell your name please? 3 Ff i 14 EF And your date of birth? sos Ht Hi e 16 |: And you are? 17 [EER ranty therapist 18 of Could you spell your name please? ° 20 | 4 And you're her family therapist? Am | correct? 21. Yes. 22 i Okay. I'm here today; a. and | have stated briefly why I'm here is in 23 reference to an incident that happened to a friend of yours, o~ a girl you know. Page 1 of 43 EFTA00087643

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21 23 DRAFT Okay. After everything was done, okay, did he watch you get dressed? No. Cause | was gettng dressed while he was out there getting the $300. | guess that’s what he was doing. That's the on'y thing he came back in with. te was still in a towel and stuff. In the room, at all, do you think...and I don't know if there is or not, but do you think there is anything in there that may have recorded what you did? Oh my gosh... A video camers... Oh my gosh. | didn’t think about that. There was lots of places there could have been one because there's pictures, that couki have been, | don't know... When he walked out... the reason why | ask is because he walked out once and then came back in, right? Yas. So It could be just so he coukl whack off. twas just curious. | don't know if there Is or not. {Fthere was, | did not know about it Okay. So you get dressed, you go downstairs. Where is ‘hat woman again? Downstairs talking tof and the other gin. Okay. They were having a conversation. Okay, At any time, did he speak to you or does he know how okt you'are. did he know how old you were? Okay. Yes. And, ss amatterof tect 1s meits say | was18: because Page 38 of 43 EFTA00087644

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oc Nn oo wf 19 "1 2 3 a 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 DRAFT ~oek : . , | said tell him you're 46 because i you're not, newon let yau th Ris: house So | sald hewas 18. Ad | wad gvingdina maisagetsne was IKe how ot are” you, And then?-was 18! Bubh kind of saks:t seally fest because | diin't wantto make it sound like-( -was-lying or anything. So what other things did he ask you? Um, how | know |. what schoo! | went to. OX you teli him what school you went to? Yeah but | told hin i +cidn' teh hin SE. Did he ask you what grdde.you ware iniér did you tell him ‘what grad you were in? Yeah, he was like what grade’are you in? Because:! told him | was in 12” grade still, Okay. Because | told him | was: 18 so'l had to... So you told him you were in 12" grade? Yes. Are you sure? Yes. Chay. What else did you talk about? Um, that's about it. And he was kind of asking me like how | knew [I is FEB nice to me and then he told me how he knew IMJ and he was tike, | was kind of like, how do you know f. Cause | brought up the conversation, He said well | know | | because she’s been working for me for a long time. And Page 300f 43 EFTA00087645

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IN RE: JEFFREY EPSTEDY DRAFT TAPED INTERVISW OF EFTA00087646

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DRAFT 1 BY DETECTIVE ee Te 2 Q You said he A Tn my lewer area Q Your lower area? Below your waist? A (Inaudible .) BY DETECTIVE SR: Okay, ow loog did he i A few seconds Not long It wasr't ong. Okay. Did you tell bim you didn't like that or -- A No. I told him -- I didn't tell bie no and I didn't tell him that I wasn't comfortable I wasn't 13 comfortable but 1 didn't tell bim that And like © said, T 14 made the money that day so. 15 Q Did you guys discuss anyzbing? 16 A Huh-buh 17 Q Old he ask you your ags? 18 A Yeah, I told him I was 18 19 Q You told him you were 18? Okay. D:d he want you t ] 20 to come back? 21 As He @aid he would love if I come back sometime but | 22 I never went back. 23 Q You never went back. You only went one time 24 Whee was SJ 204 BB Going wnen you vere 25 upetairs? EFTA00087647

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TW RE: JEFFREY EPSTEIN DRAFT VIDEOTAPED INTERVIEW OF I EFTA00087648

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DRAFT or he di@n't care? Page 12 A I don't think he cared, we told me the younger the better Q The younger the becter? all right. A Pretty much that'e bow it worked 8s didn't -- Jet me just por it this way, he -- I tried to bring hia, I tried to bring hin «= woman who was 23 avxi he didn't really like it Q Be didn't go for it? A Te‘s mot that he didn‘'c go for it. It's just that be didn't care for it And he likes the girls that are between the ages of like 18 and 20 Q Okay A But mostly the girls I -- i think gome of then lie ebout their age. I know that when I started off young I think be knew better to believe we I think ke knew that I was younger, like 17, but 1] told bim that I wae Like 18 Q Okay Mosc of the girla lied when they go in there, A Q Right. Because I csia she was 16. aA Yesn. Most of thew.!I believe lied. Q How ¢o you contacr him? How do you know when he'e in town and atuff like that? a [ER calls we Q ob, FJ calle you? ne ee ta EFTA00087649

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IN RE: CEFPREY EPSTEIN DRAFT VIDDOTAED INTERVIF® OF EFTA00087650

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Page 14 $1.90 more jast to take my shirt off. Aad you said you didr't do iL. Neo. Oxay. 314 QJ ov the seconc tine® Yeah. Q And dd he everP A Actually the second timo like it wagn"l that bad because he was like on the phome all the time and so he wasn't paying atlension to what was going on G Did he ever at any poin J the second time? A No. Wot thet I remember Q Cid he cver ask you any sucstions or speak to you CI ass you anything? A Well, he tried to calk te you just te make you confortable with the situation like wre-e do you work and iLike how auch do you make at your work and then he start. saying you can mate more with me, But i dian’t feel 1iko it was cight,. Q Dic he eves know your real age? A After c while like becasse somebody told rim. Trat you wers -- Yeeh, s- 17? Like P| us, we were supposRd to say ve tener nmmenns-ty me as oe EFTA00087651

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nc who tod you that to say tret? | 0 zz. A HMMM es the one who brought everything to everyone at school That's ow we know asoot it Then ashe took RJ aod BRB took me Okay. So cach time you did go, did J get taking you or -- ell, PRBBB went with we twice 2 guass, And that wes it. Thon T went wth J Q Okay. Ard did she moke money? Did Zz me ke money *or taking you to him? A No, I was taking her. q Oh, you ware tading her So you brought -- A She knew about it and ste ask me if 1 could tell her because she didn't know wiere it was But T didn't get morey ccc o* that. @ Okay. id arybody ever help you do a massage wiih him? A No. [RRB asked 6 10 do it with ner and T didn't fecl comfortable Q Al) right. All right ‘Talk <o me about the third time you wenr.. A 1 don't remember <=t was like kind of alweys -- swam ae 5 EFTA00087652

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IN R@: JEFFREY EDSTEIN DRAFT S oe . EFTA00087653

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DRAFT , Q A Because he was Like, made a big sigh cf reliet 4 like he had been done and he just got right back up and -- Q Do you —- 7 At think tt oo [ie HEE probabiy. 5 Q Okey. As I told you before and [ explained to 10 your mom, what he did was wrong, okay? 11 A Uh-hub, 12 Q I want to reassure you on that. Okay? 13 At any point did he ever ask you to leave your 14 phone number or -- 15 A No He didn't ask me for anything. Like 1 think 16 he asked mea my name in the beginning Q Did he know your age? A I dom't think -- he did. I think he did. Dovnataires QB woe like oh, well, if they ask you how oud are you just say you're 16 but he never asked me how. old I was. Q Okay. A I thought you had to be a certain age to massage soneone , Q De you have any formal massage training? 18 stowet ate EFTA00087654

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St eR em Ieee mom wen oy IN RE: JEFFREY BPSTBIN DRAFT VIDEOTAPED INTERVIEW OF EFTA00087655

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DRAFT Q Okay. All right shen you would go back and do i the massage, woulc it, would it maintain the same or were { more things -- A Well, no I mean I would take my jeans off a lot of times or whatever but that was that. I cever slept with him. I never did anything to him. Nothing like that Q Ohay Iw it uafe to assume that you provided the massage wearing orly panties? A Yes. : i Q Okay. During the massage that you gave him, did he ever touch you? : i A Gike I mean he would like couch my hip or whatever { but [I mean that that’s really it i Q Okay. . A And if I ever like asked, if I] ever said I wasn't comfortable with it, he's like or I don't want you to touch me, he'd be like fine. (Imaudible.) ° And this all occurred when you were 18 though, ' right? A Uh-huh. I had been 18 for like eight months, rine months already. My birchaay's infco 1 had boon i¢ for i 2 a while. i Q Okay. You're 19 now thouga right? { A Yoo. Yes. Qa Tt was about a year ago when you met him, EFTA00087656

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IN RE: JEFFREY EPSTEIN DRAFT TAPED INTERVIEW o7 EFTA00087657

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~ DRAFT that's it T just told him -- Page 8 Q Oid he come up here or did you meet with han in Florida? A He came up here. Q Oh, he came up here? A Yeah. Q He mec you right here? A Not here I didn't want to meet. I met han at Wal-Mart and I just -- he just kept asking me questions that I didn't know the answer to so Q Was he an investigator? Was he an attorney? A I don't know. I dom't think he was an arttormey because be kept esying the information he's getting from me ia going to go to Jeff's attorney so I don't think he was an attorney. BY DETECTIVE SM: : Q What kind of questions was he asking? If the ; police were involved? A Yeah =I -- how the police got invelved I said j I don't know whet kind of questions they were asking I gaid I don't know because I haven't been questioned yet. And just like how old | was whem I went there and basically like you guye are asking what I did when I went there BY DBTaCrive Q Now how old were you when you first started going EFTA00087658

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DRAF 1 there? 2 A Bightten. ~ T*w is now this’ last HS ot HB. right? Yeah. And I turned 19 (inaudible) And did he question JJ at the same time? Did the guy? Wo. Did ow ever? No. [RBBMMJ said she didn't want to 9 Q Okay. And he said he was a representative of deffrey Epstein? A Yes. Did he call you or did Jeffrey or J -- No, he called me. This is the number. It's Uh-buh. Okay. ‘hen was this you met him? 168 Like two, three -- it was Friday or Saturday is Did ne come by himself? 20 Yeah. Dn > Dm FF 1 Did Ae tape the conversation? . No He asked me if he could. By veTecTive 24 i?) Okay, If he reaches ouz to you again, juar give I said no. 25 him my number and have him call me. win Raine Fach nneteant anne thde edihleed em enh > EFTA00087659

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IN RE: JEFFREY EPSTEIN DRAFT VEDECTAPED INTERVIEW OF EFTA00087660

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DRAFT ALL I hed was my undceweear. Just pan.les? Yes. No bre? No Gray How ola are you now? You're <= I'm 20. Q You're 20 So 3 couple months ago you would have what, L9? A Yeah Well, your birthday is Uh-huh . ALL rignt So July, Aucust you would have been On the verge of 25? Uh-huh . So wiat else happened when you provided him the massage? a That's just it. He had a towel over his private parts and he was just ieying on the table aad I was just massaging from his knees down for about 45 minutes and she said 411 = had to do wes give him a massage for an hocr £6 thet's wha: i did. And then like ter. minutes before we wore getting ready to leave he asxed her to ‘eave because we wore in the roon together and ali [ has to de was maséage hic chest and that's it. Ee had the towel on him and about five EFTA00087661

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Page 5 § might want to give a massage and I said I dor't know. Then he asked me about what = wanted to do when I grew up and stuf= like that. and IT asked hir what he did and ke said he was like a scientist basically. I don't. chink 36, Q Well it would have been 16 if it was a year ago, right? A Well it like was almost a year aco, (Inaudible) Q Okay. During the maesage did you -- were you raked or -- A No. J had my clothes on. Q You had all your clothes on? A Uh-huh. g Okay. Did he touch you in any way? A He was like kind of like Leaning towards it but I was like you could tcll I was shy so I think that's why he didn't try. But I heard about other girls that he -- that he got Clirtatious with them and he made them take off their clothes and stuff. Q Okay. What that was the first time you went, EFTA00087663

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Page 6 Q One time. How much did he pay you for that? A $300. Q Okay. All right. He never -- was there ever a time you felt uncomfortable? A No. Like I'm very comfortable with like he asked me that too and he's like are you uncomfortable and like as weird as it sounds I'm very comfortable with myself so like it didn't really bother me. And I needed the money so, you know, my boyfriend and I were having a hard time so I did what I had to do, you know? Q I understand. I understand. That was the only time you ever went? A One time. And I think I dropped her off once and got her an hour later when her car was down or something. Q Okay. And -- A He had like a massage room, like a bed and like he has this -- Q Massage bed or like a bed bed? A No, like a massage bed. Uh-huh. A massage bed. Q Okay. And where was this? What part of the house was this? A His house is massive. We went in through the kitchen, up the stairs around, so it was like I guess towards the front on like the second floor maybe. Maybe over the pool or something like that. EFTA00087666

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Page 9 6 haere thine B Q Okay. All right. When you would go back and do the massage, would it, would it maintain the same or were more things -- A Well, no. I mean I would take my jeans off a lot of times or whatever but that was that. If never slept with him. I never did anything to him. Nothing like that. Q Okay. Is it safe to assume that you provided the massage wearing only panties? A Yes. Q Okay. During the massage that you gave him, did he ever touch you? A Like I mean he would like touch my hip cr whatever but I mean that, that's really it. Okay. A And if I ever like asked, if I ever said I wasn't comfortable with it, he's like or I don't want you to touch me, he'd be like fine. (Inaudible.) Q And this all occurred when you were 18 though, right? A Uh-huh. I had been 18 for like eight months, nine months already. My birthday's in | I had been 18 for a while. Okay. You're 19 now though right? Yes. Yes, It was about a year ago when you met him. EFTA00087668

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23 want to tell you any wrong information. ; i Q Okay. That's fine. But I don't -- That's fine. You have not had any contact with No. Only <hing I know of her is that 1 guess she's working at (inaudible) now. A He'd call through J. © He'd go througn . And you never gave g y g any money? Q Did you ever leave your phone number for him to call you? } A No. Ee never nad my number and I never had his number. Okay. A Kuh-huh. Q Okay. BY DETECTIVE QM: Q Were you afraid when you were in there? A I wasn't afraid. I guess I should have been (inaudible) but I wasn't afraid but I wasn't very comfortable. Were you afraid to say no to anything? A No. I could have said no but at that time I was in debt. I was in a lot of debt and I needed that money and EFTA00087670

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Page 15 Jeffrey's. ° Q Okay. Obviously this is an ongoing investigation. I would appreciate it if anybody does call you from the house to try to find out information or ask you questions about what if the police have contacted you, I would appreciate it if you called me. You have my card, right? A I have it somewhere. I'm not sure what I did with it though to be honest. Q Okay. 10 A Thank you, 11 Q Okay. Just a few more questions. 12 When you had intercourse, obviously that was 15 consensual? 16 A Uh-huh. i5 Q Okay. He's never forced himself or forced 16 anything on you? ; i A No. 18 Q Did you bring anyone to the house? 19 A Yes. T brought two people but each of them only H 20 went once. 4 20 Q Okay. Who were those people? 22 A A girl named QR. 23 Q Un-huh. 24 A And a giri named J. Q And? EFTA00087672

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Page But I haven't because I haven't known him that long. ate each nt toate teem hte etre home Q Okay. Your first time you went you just sat in the kitchen and waited for ., correct? A Uh-huh. Yeah. Plus he wanted to meet me. Q Okay. As you've gone, tell me has anything eet tne reranheete ANE te aon of escalated from just a massage? A No. Like the first time I went, I waited. The second time I went, I stayed in all my clothes and like gave him a massage. And then I think it was probably the third time I went he asked me if I'd like to get like more naked or whatever and I said no. I just didn't feel comfortable. After that he never asked me anything that made me feel uncomfortable. Do you give the massage in your undergarments? No. Completely clothed? Completely clothed, yeah. Okay. I mean he's asked me but I said no because I just don't feel comfortable doing that. Has he touched you? No. Has he -- The closest he came to touching me was giving me a hug goodbye. But not inappropriate (inaudible). EFTA00087674

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Page 11 Q Massaged what? His -- A His back and his lower back and his feet. 3 ie) All right. Okay. Have you ever seen him naked? 4 A No. In a towel but that's it. 5 Q That's it. Has he ever touched you? & A No. f Q Has he ever touched himself while you were massaging? 3 A No. He was mostly like on the phone. Like my 10 friend told me, he's perverted out he's never that way il toward me. He asked me once. 12 By DETECTIVE J 13 Q What did he ask you? 14 A He asked me like the third time I went there. 15 Q To do what? 16 A IZ I wanted to get naked or do anything more and I i said no and I think he could teil I was like uncomfortable 18 with it so... 19 BY DETECTIVE [: 20 Q Okay. All right. So aside from J and | ? Jeffrey, did you meet anybody else in the house? | A I mel -- yeah, but I don't know like i didn't meet | them but I've seen them. Like I was never formrally introduced but I've seen a little like short -- I don't even know. Some lady out there didn't speak that well English EFTA00087675

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Page 6 meanrersewteunisnageaees vaatenter Q Okay. When the second time you went, how did you, how were you contacted? A Asked -- when he asked -- when he gave me $300 and asked me to come back, I had left him my cell phone number. Q Okay. A And | | called me and told me that Jeff had wanted me to come back and then I went down there. Q Okay. Do you recall when this was? A No. I know it started like this time last year because I think about January is the last time I went when I met my boyfriend and he didn't want me going down there. Q So January of this year was the last time you went? A Yeah. Q Okay. All right. So she calls you and tells you to come -- A (Inaudible.) Q -- tells you to come to the house to provide, to A Uh-huh. Qo Did anything happen during that massage? A No. The only thing he ever did was he tried to grab my butt and I told him I didn't feel comfortable with that and he always said that if you didn't feel comfortable just to let him know. He didn't want you to feel EFTA00087677

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ll DRAFT Q Was that on the second massage? uncomfortable. ney aren NS Se anE TT rene Eee ees A No. Probably about towards the end because I was fully clothed until the third massage. Q Okay. A That was the massage. That's when just I did it in my bra and underwear. And then after that is when I started feeling uncomfortable with it because he was like why don't you take that off and I was like no. And then just -- he never pressured me. He never forced me to do anything. But he would like try to talk you into it and I didn't feel comfortable with it. Q Okay. So you recall both -- the first two times? A Uh-huh. Q Did he touch himself during the second massage? A I guess kinda he would sometimes. Q What do you mean? A Well not -- like towards the end when I was in my bra and underwear like sometimes when I would be rubbing his chest then he would. Q Okay. Did he do it on the second time you went? A No. Q Okay. The third time you went, how were you contacted to go? A HMMM called me again. EFTA00087678

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1 Aha Nn el aeons Page 4 there's more to that. That's More to the massage. Okay? why I didn't want mom to be in here. And you can talk to me about anything. Okay? Like I said, I've interviewed other 4 people already who have told me what transpired in that ° room. I know it's going to be difficult for you but... 6 A Well, the first time I went there I did a massage and he was just asking me a lot of questions. He seemed 8 like really nice. And then he kept like staring at me and 9 stuff. And then like I did a massage and he just kept le looking at me ard ne was like oh, you're being shy and I'm il like yeah. And he's like do you feel uncomfortable and I 12 was like yeah, a little bit. And he's like okay. And he 13 said well do you want to stop, and I was like no, it's okay. 14 And he was like why are you lixe being shy and = was like 15 oh, I don't know. And then he would like change the subject -6 and he started talking about other things. And then when we 17 were done he said that if like I wanted to come back and do 18 more then he would like pay me more and then I would have to 19 talk to J and 1 could come back. 20 Q Okay. What kind of questions did he ask you as you were massaging him? 22 A He was asking about -- it was a year ago. I don't 23 remember everything but... Q Right. A He was just asking me if I had any friends that EFTA00087680

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Page 7 ese tea ented a Q Okay. At what point did he reach out to try to touch you? A While he just before he started to rub his nipples he goes I'm going to touch you the way that I like to be touched and I was like I don't feel comfortable that way. I'm fine. I'll continue to give you a massage but I don't want -- I'm very uncomfortable. Because a before she told me if I felt uncomfortable just tell him and he'd back off. So I told him that I was uncomfortable like after he H 10 started to touch me and he kept MMe fter that. il Q Okay. He touched your buttocks? 12 A Yes. f . 0 pid he | 14 A I would not let him. No. 5 Q Oxay. And you mentioned your breast area. } 16 A Right. 17 Q Did he try to touch your buttocks under the shorts 18 or -- 19 A At first it was just outside my pants and then he 20 tried to -- I had a belt on with my jeans so he tried to go 21 like inside from behind but he could not and I was like I'm 22 not comfortable. 23 Q Okay. He put his hands under your shirt? 24 A Correct. 25 Q Okay. And you had a bra on, correct? EFTA00087682

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10 11 12 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 a et a ET aa a a as CRG. ee Se ee Page 5 | A Yeah, just to bring a girl. Q And the girl that was going knew that she would have to massage him? A She knew everythidy. She Knew everything. Because that was one of Jeffrey's rules. H@ had a problenh wfth girls coming to the house that didn’ know what thé@y were getting into. “He would telb me, yoy, know, make sure these girls know what I expect. Make suge they know what they want. Because when théy gét du that nédti I don't want -- they need to know. As far as QJ case, she knew everything she was getting herself into. It was all volunteered. Q Okay. What did you tell her that she was going to do? A I told her the same thing. I told her I -- you know, this guy Jeffrey -- she came to me saying she needed money, da da da da da. I basically told her about it. She was like, you know, what do you have to do. I told her, I was like, you know, the more you do the more you make. That's it. You're going to have to take -- you're going -- in order to make money you're going to have to go up there, you're going to take your clothes off. But the more you do is the more you make. She walked out of there with $300 so she obviously and evidently let him do a little more. Plus on her way home she kind of told me what she did. EFTA00087685 i} f f }

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Page 13 A MMMM calls us when she gets in town. [RJ calls us to let us know when he's available. Q Oh, okay. A I've called him maybe once or twice to see if he was in town when I used to work for him but primarily J would call us to let us know when he's in and when he wants people to work for him. Q So she would call you and say okay, he’s coming in Friday? A Friday at 7 he wants someone to work for him. Saturday around 12. Q Okay. Let's talk about JJ for a minute. Okay? Okay. MMMM at the time was dating your cousin, right? Uh-huh. Okay. She told you she needed to make money. She -- did she know you worked for Jeffrey? I told her. You had told her you worked for Jeffrey? Uh-huh. And did you tell her what it entailed? Okay. So she knew that? She knew everything before she even agreed to it. A Q A Q A (Nods head yes.) Q A Q So she knew there was going to Have to be some EFTA00087686

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Page 14 kind of -- A Contact. Prétty much, yeahs L:foeld her. I told he exactly what his expectations were. I teld her what goes on with the girls that go-up “ther&, I told her Lik® it's your call. I was lake Zf you warft to do this, fine. If not, fine. But when you go’in €hat room f-don't want to hear you say oh, I diditr't know he Was going to do all that because I'm teliing you now what he's expecting. Q And basically it's. touchiffy? A Fondling. Q Fondling? A Looking, whatever. And I told her just remember the more you do, the more you make. But that's up to you. She asked me and I flat out told her I wouldn't, I wouldn't do more. Q Okay. Yeah. You made that clear that you wouldn't do more. No. Screw that. But as far as MJ is concerned -- Yeah. -- what did she tell you that happened in that A Exact words? If I can recall when she came downstairs, when she came downstairs me and her and I believe it was JBN I was with, we all walked out. We got EFTA00087687

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Page 18 | What do you mean? Q Like if they, they wanted to work, how did you approach them? Say listen, I got this guy in Palm Beach? A For the most part because like I said, two were my friends. The others were like my acquaintances. It was a little more easier talking to them about it because I knew them. Q Just take a deep breath. Take a deep breath because I can see you working up again. You're working up the tears. I can see it. I don't want to get you like that. A I pretty much would just ask them. Q Straight up? A If you're looking for extra money let me know. This guy down in Palm Beach, he's really, really, really wealthy. You have to give him a massage. That's all I would tell them. Then if they were interested or told me, yes, I want to do it, I would go in detail with them before they would actually agree. If they told me, oh, that sounds good, I'm interested, then I would tell them okay, I want to let you know this is what you have to do. This is what is going to go on. Q Did you tell them that you were going to make money for bringing them over? A Most part I believe they knew. | knew. EFTA00087688

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Page 35 f you're breaking me off more. And they did. And after that Jeffrey said he didn't want her working after she started agruing. That's the only problem that I can think of. DETECTIVE 9M: So when you -- to be specific, when you took somebody, they knew they would have to get “haked, they :wpuld Have: to massage him, THE WITNSSS? THey knéwwhak they were getting into prior to showing up. That was Jeffrey's rule. Tell them what they're getting into because I don't want an -- DETECTIVE QM: Argument. THE WITNESS: Yeah. DETECTIVE QJ: And J is now, J is 17. When do you think you took her there? In order of events, when do you think you took J there? THE WITNESS: She was 16 when I took her there. It was her -- I took her probably like 8 months ago. It's been a while. It's been a while. I don't know the exact dates because, like I said, I haven't contacted him in a while. But it was a while ago. DETECTIVE 9M: Now does she live near EFTA00087689

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10 12 13 14 15 20 21 22 Page S&£ Me and MJ both sat in the kitchen that day. Okay. So JBM is the one that worked? Yes. Okay. Each girl that you went with, [RR WM. «|. chose are the ones that did the work? Yeah. oOo Yr O PF A Q And || sat in the kitchen? A That one day. When I was -- Q Okay. And @Q du Heoall any tonvezsations in the car with either QR, ERK oc HJ that EJ may have had with them as far as what to expect? A I think I remember J telling J that if he tells you hey, you know what I mean, if you want to do anything else you're still free to say no and he'll, you know what I mean? He would -- something to the extent where like hey, if he's like will you do this feel free to say no and he'll be okay with it pretty much. Q Okay. And what you mean by he wants to do this, it's more than a massage? A Right. Q Okay. What do you know of that goes on up in the massaging or working -- A Nobody ever wanted to tell me anything. Just that they were giving massages and that was it. I didn't even want to really know too much. sr arc area a a Sa a TT a ae a A es aa ee ee eae EFTA00087691 F a eres

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Page 4 to be true. And as I found out it wasn't quite what she said. Just he asks the girls to take off their clothes and give him a massage and he likes watching them I guess. Q Okay. [RRM I've talked to a lot of girls and I pretty much know what goes on, okay -- A Uh-huh. Q -- to some extent. So I want you to feel free to talk to me without any problems. Trust me, there's nothing you're going to say that's going to shock me. I've talked to a lot of girls that visited the house. So this girl | | HM took you. A Uh-huh. Q And told you for -- a massage for $200. Did she tell you you'd have to provide the massage naked? A She said that I might have to take off my clothes but that I'd be able to leave on my underwear which was true. Q Okay. So talk to me about the first time you to the house. A I went -- 9 went in with me and brought me upstairs to the room that's like off to the side of his bedroom and showed me how to set up the table and where all the lotion is and everything. And then she went outside to wait for me. Q Okay. EFTA00087693

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WwmrNAUEWNe DETECTIVE: it c DETECTIVE: DETECTIVE: DETECTIVE: DETECTIVE: Transcript DRAFT Um, a couple of days later, I believe it was a Saturday night. I'm almost positive it was, cause I know I didn’t have to go to school the next day. Um, and definitely wasn’t a Friday. So it next Saturday night after that. She set it up, and I picked her up from the her apartment, and we drove to the island and I worked, um, and he paid her three or four hundred dollars to bring me. Okay. And that was it. All right. Um, and this was a year and a half ago, correct? Maybe two, I’m not sure, I didn’t really keep track //Okay. How old were you when you first, uh, went over there? If it was two years ago | was sixteen, if it was a year and a half, I would have been sixteen or seventeen, | don’t know. Okay. Like, I really don’t know. Okay. When you first went to give a massage, um, you were explained that, it was just a massage? Just a massage. Okay. Did she explain, um, how you would have to be dressed to give a massage? She said that he wanted cute girls, so I looked cute, did my best, 1 didn’t — I didn’t think that it was what it-was. I:wasn’t naive enough to think that he was-gonna pay.metwo:hundfed dollars just for nothing, [stutters] I, I don’t know, like I don’t know what was going through my head. I absolutely‘don’t know: Arid I — the-back of my mind.1 was thinking, oh; well, it could be legitimate; but I was also.thinking; you: know, at the same time, is’ she-fucking crazy? Like, this guy’s not gonna pay you money for not doing anything, not letting him cop.a feel or nothing. You know? SoI didn’t know what to think, I was like oh, Ill just go and I'll feel it out and if I don’t like it, I'll leave. Like, in the middle of it, like I don’t care. If he does something that I have a problem with then Ili leave. 4 October 11, 2005 PBPD & [a EFTA00087695

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10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 22 23 24 25 Page 17 | I can't (inaudible) money. Q Would he ask, ask you obviously if they were cool with it or felt comfortable with it? A Uh-huh. And like I would always tek thém, y¢u know, what the situation was because like: fT wasn't told the whole -- at first t was not tol& the whole Situation, Q What did | | tell you you would have to do? | | told me I would just take my shirt off and give a massage and that was the end: Q Topless or a bra? A Topless. Q Okay. A So that was it. Q Okay. Was there ever a time that you ever told him hey, I'm not comfortable with that? A The first time he asked me if I would take my jeans off and I told him I wasn't comfortable with that. Q Okay. A I think that's really it. Q Again, you're not in any trouble. I'm, I'm just trying to -- A Uh-huh. Q Was there ever a time that he ever tried to touch your vagina? A Yes. aa a a ir ce Te orreg 1 e eee EFTA00087697 STS STS Be

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Page 3} Seventeen, You were 17. Okay. And you went there with whom? a. HMM > rought you? Yes. Q Okay. Did she tell you what were -- um, what you were required to do? . . A She said that I could giwe Jeffrey a massage and that he would pay-me to do that. f didn't. havé to da anything with him. She said that’ He’ might’ ask me to take off a piece of clothing if that was okay with me. She said if not, I didn't have to. Q Okay. So when did you go? When? Yeah. When was this? I don't remember. It was a long time ago. Was it a year ago? It was a long time ago because -- More than a year? Less than a year? It had to be in November or December. Of last year? Yeah. Okay. And it was after November. oO rp Oo rp OO PrP 0 FPF Oo FT ODO YF When you walked into the house? EFTA00087699

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A Uh-huh. Q What school did you go to? 3 A I went to x) inaudible). 4 Q Okay. So you have your high school diploma? 5 A Uh-huh. 6 Q Okay. You understand all these questions I’m ? asking you, right? 8 A Uh-huh. 9 Q Okay. Like I said, I know some of this stuff is 10 hard to talk about but it's important because basically il you're a potential victim here. 12 A Uh-huh. 13 Q Okay? What kind of panties did you have? Was it 14 a thong underwear or regular panties? 15 A A thong. 16 Q It was a thong. 17 BY DETECTIVE J: 18 Q Did he ever tell you to wear anything specific? 19 A No. Actually I was just wearing jeans and a 20 shirt. I mean I wasn't dressed in any certain way. 21 py DETECTIVE J: 22 Q Okay. Did she explain to you that you may have to take off your clothes and -- 24 A She said I may have to and said if I didn't want to that I don't have to. EFTA00087700

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Page 3 raise your right hand for me. Do you solemnly swear to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth so help you God? A I do. Q Okay. In your words, tell me exactly how you met this gentleman in Palm Beach. A My friends, well, not really friends. [x told me in class that she found a way of making money. You can get money. And then she said that if I ever told anybody she'd beat my ass and so I didn't even know what she was talking about but I was like okay. She said this guy's house, a place where old guys are. And just massage him for 45 minutes and get $200. And so she picked me up after work. We went down there. Right before we got in there she's like oh, he might ask you to like take off your shirt or something. But I didn't -- it didn't matter so I said okay. And I went in his house. A lady escorted me up to his room. Had a bed on it. Q Okay. Let me back you up for a second. A Uh-huh. Q You said this was right before Christmas. Christmas of last year or the year before? A Last year. Last year. Uh-huh. EFTA00087702

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10 abl 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 13 f | was working for him. A Yeah. Everybody knew that. Q I know that. A So I just was like I don't know you that well. He 4 wanted to make méney off of me and J. I just wa to go with FY because ske knew him and she knew like y the situation so I went with her. Q How far has QJ gone with him? A She really doesn't go into detail. I mean I nted FE know she's gone farther than me but she doesn't really go into t detail about it. Q Okay. Is there anything else that you'd like to add to this statement? A No. DETECTIVE Sx: I'm going to go ahead and conclude the statement. No. Okay. The time by my watch is 12:10. {Thereupon, At this time the interview ended.) a ca ERT aes EFTA00087704

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Page 3 | information and we are conducting an investigation. We were here last night, spoke with your mom and dad. If you can just start from the beginning as to how you met him. A Okay. And how it came about. I met him through my friend J. Okay. How long ago was that? It was probably about almost a year ago. Okay. Okay. And he -- I went there once with her and she gave him a massage and then she asked me if I wanted to do it and then I did it or whatever and then after that like he kind of scared me when I went there so I just decided not to go back. Q Okay. The first time you went with J, did you go upstairs with him? A No, I stayed down in the kitchen. Q Okay. Did [MJ tell you that -- what was entailed as to what had to bé déne? ’ A Well she said the first time you go it's just like a massage and she said like well, the more you go supposedly the more he like expects and starts flirting with girls and that's what kind of like scared me. Q Okay. I've interviewed other girls and they've told me pretty much the same thing about the massage but EFTA00087706

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there's more to that. More to the massage. Okay? That's why I didn't want mom to be in here. And you can talk to me about anything. Okay? Like I said, I've interviewed other people already who have told me what transpired in that room. I know it's going to be difficult for you but... A Well, the first time I went there I did a massage and he was just asking me a lot of questions. He seemed like really nice. And then he kept like staring at me and stuff. And then like I did a massage and he just kept looking at me and he was like oh, you're being shy and I'm like yeah. And he's like do you feel uncomfortable and I was like yeah, a little bit. And he's like okay. And he said well do you want to stop, and I was like no, it's okay. And he was like why are you like being shy and I was like oh, I don't know. And then he would like change the subject and he started talking about other things. And then when we were done he said that if like I wanted to come back and do more then he would like pay me more and then I would have to talk to JJ and I could come back. Q Okay. What kind of questions did he ask you as you were massaging him? A He was asking about -- it was a year ago. I don't remember everything but... Q Right. A He was just asking me if I had any friends that EFTA00087707

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Page 5 might want to give a massage and I said I don't know. Then he asked me about what I wanted to do when I grew up and stuff like that and I asked him what he did and he said he was like a scientist basically. Okay. Did he ever ask you how old you were? No. No. Did he know that you were 17? No, I don't think so. Well it would have been 16 if it was a year ago, Well it like was almost a year ago. (Inaudible) Q Okay. During the massage did you -- were you naked or -- No. I had my clothes on. You had all your clothes on? A Q A Uh-huh. Q Okay. Did he touch you in any way? A He was like kind of like leaning towards it but I was like you could tell I was shy so I think that's why he didn't try. But I heard about other girls that he -- that he got flirtatious with theft and he made them take off their clothes and stuff. Okay. What -- that was the first time you went, EFTA00087708

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Okay. Have you received any massage training? No. No. I have to ask. Was JEBMMJ one of the two girls that was in the kitchen with you? Yes. Okay. Did you ever go back to his house? Well, I just went there twice. Right. After that -- After that you've never come back? Never went How much did you receive for the massage? Two hundred. You received 200. Okay. Did JJ explain to you what was going to be involved? A She said the first time you go there you pretty much just give a massage, but the more you go there like the more he expects. And that's it. That scared me. Q That's what scared you? BY DETECTIVE QR: Q Did she say (inaudible) or did she (inaudible -- A Say didn't have to say it exactly but she implied like, you know, like taking your clothes off and stuff hike EFTA00087709

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that. BY DETECTIVE QR: Q Okay. So you didn't remove any of your clothing? A No. Q What were you wearing? Can you remember? A I don't know. It was a long time ago. I don't remember exactly. Q Okay. A I don't want to tell you wrong. Q I know. And I know you already told your mom what happened. And like I said, I know this is hard for you but... I was just scared. I just didn't want my name to Q Don't worry. You're not the only person I've talked to. Okay? There's a lot of people that I've talked to and I'm going to talk to. How did you get to his house? with i. Q MM. 4 MN. 00k you the first time and you sat in the kitchen. A Yeah. Q What about the second time? A The second time I drove and she came with me. Because I didn't want to -- EFTA00087710