DIGITALLY RECORDED SWORN STATEMENT OF OIG CASE #: 2019-010614 DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE OFFICE OF THE INSPECTOR GENERAL JULY 15, 2021 RESOLUTE DOCUMENTATION SERVICES 28632 Roadside Drive, Suite 285 EFTA00064043

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wo Ne] WwW wo Nh No 21. Department of Justice O My name is | with the U.S. the Insp General New York Field Office. And these are my credentials. This interview is with Federal Bureau of Prisons ae as part of an official U.S. Department of at 150 Park Row. We are in the And the - also this interview will be recorded Wo EFTA00064045

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co Ww first and last name and of Inma circumstance de answers EFTA00064046

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10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 You are being asked to provide information as part of an investigation being conducted by the Office of the Inspector General. This investigation is being conducted pursuant to the Inspector General Act of 1978 as amended. This investigation pertains to job performance failure and security failure. I’m writing that in here. ee : And that doesn’t’ mean your job performance failure. That means that’s what the investigation is involving. ee : This is a voluntary interview. Accordingly, you do not have to answer any questions. No disciplinary action will be taken against you if you choose not to answer any questions. Any statement you furnish may be used as evidence in any future criminal proceedings or agency disciplinary proceedings or both. The waiver states I understand the warnings and assurances stated above and I am willing to make a statement and answer questions. No promises or threats have been made to me. And no pressure or coercion of any kind has been used against me. Please review the form. And if you understand it, EFTA00064047

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sign where it says employee signature. N And print your name below it. Do you WwW understand the form? 4 ae : Yes. I understand the 7 signing tt form. All right. Special Agent 8 | is signing under line for signature of wo of Inspector 7) 2 signature of witness and I will write the date Q as July 15, 2021, and the time is 2:19 p.m. at WwW A 4 the MCC New York. 5 Ee : Before starting the 16 interview, I would like to place you under 7 oath. Mr. FY can you please raise you 8 right hand? Do you swear to tell the truth and 9 interview? 20 21 ee : During the interview if 22 you don't understand any of the questions I Please let me know. I’11l No a 7] 17] a M o repeat it for you. EFTA00064048

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1 ee : I want to clarify. This cifically regarding Inmate st Sth and 10th and the 4 =e surround it. What is your 8 Ee : What’s your date of birth? Your S What is your current cell Community EFTA00064049

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Is that in New 3 Yor City 5 Eee : And was there a specific ® major you 21 with the EFTA00064050

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Ne] WwW WwW Enter on Duty Dat ee : When did you graduate from BOP training? es : I don't know. That was Probably the following probably, I March. ee : Uh no. I started off in from 2013 to I went to became an Uh Terre Haute, Indiana. EFTA00064051

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wo ba And what shift were EFTA00064052

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11 Ne] WwW 5 an electronics technician, when did you 6 actually 7 GS: sof 2015 - in March of 2015. co fou and my background because I dida - 3 before I started with the Bureau I had about 15 with the military and ernment contractor and in the b un i) wu k tH) 6 sector. I did what training in that 20 ee : IN the Bureau? Or -? 24 did - you did n’t’ have EFTA00064053

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Ww wo a : Well I could troubleshoot certain cores at component level like a liking abo then in the job. I went to one telephone about it. Anda fire alarm hing is pretty EFTA00064054

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Anything else on that? Hm-mm. Ww Ne] 5 That’s 6 Friday or the Saturday 7 a : Friday. 5 + p fu on wu No Sy fu rt A 7 O Q t be )) © H iti) ls) c O =] te bh 1) QO ct K O P- Qo it) WW oO 0 'y =] b b wu =] H oD oO t b- 0) o t O 5 morning watch? Oo w 3 rt *) ine) 7 Tha - Day watch 8 And what does 9 position entail? What’s ur daily dutie well I make sure ) H ws hing in the building wu t fu ty wu nH 22 communi ion is working. So the first thing do is n 24 radios I said, make sure the cameras are EFTA00064055

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10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 14 Anything communication-wise. If anybody’s having a problem, they usually get to me. Even something as simple as a voice mail. They’1ll say hey my machine isn’t working and I go take a look at it. And where somebody’s computer is not working. So. a : And since you mentioned also daily when you come on the job at 6:00 a.m., you check to see if the phone, cameras, everything is working? ee: I don't have to check. It’s - there’s no set standard or like okay you should come in and check it. You just like kind of look to see what’s going on. You kind of know what hasn’t been working and what’s been working. You kind of make a checklist for yourself. There’s no set standard of what you should do at that time. Now there is more stuff that you do. Day to day. Where before there was really no standard of okay you come in, you start, and this is the first thing you’ve got to go and do. And no. There was never anything written down as far as what should be done during your shift. ee : When did that change? EFTA00064056

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wo o ine) Oo wo ine] : After Epstein pretty much. ee : So that day when you came in, do you recall - I know it’s been two years. Do you recall doing a checklist? Trying to see ry g was working. ee : I usually - because I don't get a radio in the morning. I usually - first thing I do is I call for the elevator so I know the phones are working. Ee : And then I go downstairs, turn on the radio, listen to radio traffic so I know the radios are working. And as far as the camera goes, I have - that time I had like the old system that had a, I had a screen at my desk. And make sure the um -. Because it went to analog matrix. It’s going to sound a little confusing when I say analog matrix and digital matrix because the old system we had was a mixture of both. And kind of like the new system too. It takes the old analog cameras because we had a lot of old analog cameras. It takes all of that. And then it transfers it to EFTA00064057

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wo wo make it digital so you can start recording. And that’s how you - we’ll get a video and look back for video. But everything was an would have the analog And I would pretty much look and see if that’s hh working. If that was working I know I was much good. ee : Now the analog - if - before it was converted over to digital. Ee : Mm-hmm. ee: How would the analog be here -. Well it’s -. it is converted. It’ encoder to take the analog signal and make it a digital signal and put it on a recorder. recorded on? ee : The old hard drives. It was two of them - two hard drives. ee : Was it on a server or -? server. Yeah. It was two computers pretty EFTA00064058

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10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 17 es : Okay. And once it was recorded, do you remember checking the cameras that day? Seeing if it was working? ae : I checked them later in the day. I went up to the video room. Because we were having - the thing about this whole process was when I came here, the first thing I Saw was the video room. And the biggest thing was all the equipment in that room was out of date. It was old. It was - I came from another institution. Like I said before where everything kind of wasn’t modern but it was more up to date than this. And so like the camera system I had was maybe five to ten years old. And when I came here, this one was over ten years old and it was on 365 a day. Like 24 hours for the like the last 12 years. The system was always on. And something as simple as shutting down the time and change - because you got to get recording times right. When the seasons change, you would have to wait like a whole day to shut down a recorder. It takes a whole day for it to come back up after shutting it down. And where I came from, that was not the standard. Like it should be like an hour EFTA00064059

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10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 18 maybe thirty minutes. Maybe even ten minutes if it’s a newer system. You shouldn’t even have that much down time as far as the recording. So one of the first things I did when I came here was I addressed that - the recorders needed to be upgraded. And -. a : Who did you address that with? ee : Um my Facility Manager. I talked to upper management. But like during this whole time I was doing -. I actually started the camera project and that’s why I was doing overtime around this time. And we had people come from other institutions. There was a camera project to upgrade the cameras. Everybody’s fear was the actual cameras not the recording software of the cameras. But I stated over and over again the problem you’re going to have is the recorders. And we even had the new recorders. They were in the warehouse. We have them stockpiled. They was ordered. But we were on the bottom of the list as far as install. So even though we had the new equipment, we weren’t a priority to get anything installed. EFTA00064060

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= ive} 1 So we had to wait until something happened. 2 Ee : And you said there was a - 3 you mentioned that to your Facilities Manager. 4 Who was that? 5 HR: ben T first 6 was Po (Phonetic Sp. *00:13:22 7 and Po was a facility manage I 8 think we were ot here it oO Q 9 this happened 1 WS: Sos there was no one during 10th there was nobod No id is Q c ifs) ct WwW \ I’m not too sure if my new 6 after. He was here visiting but I don't think fee} : And you mentioned it to wo upper management too? 21 ee : Who in upper managem 22 did you mention it t =nt D old AW - my Associate Warden - still - he’s no longer - he’s returned Bure from t w EFTA00064061

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) ] Ne] WwW (Phonetic 4 name. I 5 mentioned to him and of course I 6 wardens ab 7 a : Who was the warden at that 8 point? 3 0 1 *00:14 Because they wanted me like to add 2 more cameras and do upgrades. And I’m like, 3 because this art adding ing to 7 ee : And you said there was as wo too sure. Me and pret much - we have an engineering tech - FY EFTA00064062

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co ~ oO ow wo wo 21 onetic Sp. *00:14:25) - when we started. Because we had problems with the recorders before where we submitted paperwork to the regional office saying hey the recorders are going down. It’s end of life. What can we do to upgrade? What’s the steps? And that’s why we got funded all the money that we got to start the project. Before Epstein’s death, do you recall what exactly the project entailed? Nhat were you guys upgrading? Uh we were trying to go from analog cameras to IP cameras and trying to upgrade the recorders. The recorders were like the main thing. Upgrading the recording m. MEN. not the cameras ee : Not the cameras itself. Because they can still work. And they still work now. Were majority of the cameras working during that time? Yes. Pretty much all the cameras were working. Maybe we had maybe ten EFTA00064063

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1 probably that weren’t working. But for the 2 majority F the cameras were working. They 3 ren’t being recor - 6 : Recording yeah. wo 7 a : -- recording into the -. which were the 2 : I have no idea. I would WwW have to look at that list there. time about during th ras workin were working. hey were recording. Well 8 were working. They weren’t recoding. But they wo were working. what is that? Explain So you like - if - never Like if EFTA00064064

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10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 there was an error on the old software. Like I would have to physically be in the room to say hey. Because the room was upstairs on the third floor. Which I didn’t have access for. You would have to go in the room and then you go see like - because there’s a redundant drive. So you have like an A side and a B side. And say if the A side isn’t working, you have one drive goes bad. That’s not a problem. As soon as the second drive goes bad, that’s when you run into problems. And after the second drive runs into problems, that’s when you stop recording. And once that happens, you have to take the drive out, and we have to scrounge around for old drives and see if those will work. During that time I actually - prior to that I actually purchased maybe 24 drives to actually redo a whole bay - like A or the B side. I was actually going to do that. ee : Did you know at that point that SHU cameras weren’t recording? a : At that point towards the end of the day I did. I believe I did know at the end of the day. ee : On August 9th during the 23 EFTA00064065

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10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 24 day? ee: Yeah. And I called -- GUNN: | tt wasn’t the 10%? point of contact. I usually - any time I have a problem or something’s not working because I wasn’t really familiar with the whole system. I had like a newer system. It kind of worked the same, as far as the software side goes, as far like as like the hardware, it was different. So I would always have to call them for like tech support. Like okay I’m having a problem today. Can you document it? You know it builds our case when I have to submit stuff to Regional Office. Me just saying it’s not going to work, that’s not going to fly. And usually they help me troubleshoot through the whole process of what I should have to do - A, B, C, okay take this drive out, put that drive in. And like previously, probably six months before that, we actually had a mother board - which was my main computer - like go out. And I had to actually replace that and they had to walk me through it over the phone. I went to scrounge round parts from another institution EFTA00064066

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wi 1 to get it working. I know I’m giving you like Ne] Bh a lot of stuf ae : So 4 you said the - it wasn but -. WwW un 3 ia b- ite} ' o @ K oO = aly +] 5 possibly a No Oo fe) re) f rt J 3 * | Q Oo re) f ot) ial 1] a fu be be pb Bh ct p Bp n w it) oa i) rh 2) 5 o tH re] a rt o Bb 5 fs) jon o A f Oo K 8 ee : And if these work orders - work orders still maintained? A wo he] K oO ct Zz Oo 1) o 21 ee : They should be in the 22 facilities folder somewhere. it now? es : Um my facility manager, fu e] Qa uy) io) wo rt (2) EFTA00064067

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26 ‘11 know where th Ne] g tech would pretty much. Well I’m t) ct wu < bp o 2 ngineering ld know if re maintained. 6 ae : And when this work order was created, this work order specifically act that the SHU cameras weren’t o wy fon a BK fii] n i) @ jen ct Sv @ Hh wu No. No. All of the 1 cameras. It’s not going to just be SHU. It’s the cameras. i) .Q 2) pe =] Q rt 12) o o uy an b WwW All the (Indiscernible fo) i oo Q ny] 3 oO 8 w if) K o w 5) fan fu < So at that point, 7 how come recorded? He said if) Oo 5 1) Q u 3 ) K w n 8 there’s redundancy. So there’s either wo | | idage and ed o -- A drive Nh No K 1) fu EFTA00064068

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1 be another problem too. Okay. So there’s anaA 2 side and a B side. And it’s supposed to be 3 redundant but it’s not redundant because it’ if] 4 not really redundant when one side goes bad so 5 it just knows to record channels. Let’s say 6 one through 50 is on this side. And 51 through 7 100 is on this side. Everything is working. 8 It doesn’t work. Okay. I can take over for 9 this one because it’s not working. But as soon 10 as that one goes, I can kind of record over AS soon a if] the second drive goes, I have 2 to just record what I’m recording. I can’t no 3 longer help out the other drives. 2) kay. So some channels 5 ; ; CHT] w 14 ive? 5 inside the SHU were recording on one drive? : Yes. Some were on the other 8 drive? Yes. So the ones - which drive wo 21 was the one that stopped recording altogether? I believe it was the first N Nh 23 drive. So like the A side. Like the first. 24 Because the SHU cameras are on the first - 25 they’re like the first 50-some cameras. Well EFTA00064069

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I N WwW — oO 4 let’s say H Tier number one. d this will b d this would be K Tier 5 H Tier number two. 6 number one. And I’m not sure where the second 7 one is. I don’t’ think it’s this one. I think n one e. And this wo 4 ~ 3 it) nt) bea HB o a B- it) ms + = o ct x B tts) QO will be M Tier number one. Looking that way ‘ And the - so this would be L Tier. One. Let No 3 0) 0 ct G ie) 5 ct a oO iat o r WwW Where would the officers 5 | ti‘(‘ié Uh the officers’ station 6 will be next to M Tier like right in this area. 7 Ee : Can you put a box there? I believe it’s right here. o fee} wo oO ini 07) ee : Yes. I believe there is e out here in the common area. EFTA00064076

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1 and 10th. Right? No K vy) o I’1l just write uh hat’s there. And for the 46 Ww 0 fe) 3 3 fe) a] BK o v ha a + J wu I’1l 9 one and 0 tually working? 1 That’s 46 door. 2 ae : Now where would the be? Where inma ed in and WwW of the SHU? 5 ee : Uh that’s the um - the a camera there? 9 was in 0 21 in and control control b who was -- ming in and out? ioe) uw EFTA00064077

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ow oO wo wo Ww a Ee : The way that the doors worked at that time was - because we changed some of the cameras. But before control pops the door, they pretty much acknowledge that -. Well before - especially with 9 South. 9 South is different because the officer has the key on their hip to - there’s an inner door inside here. And they won’t even - well they’re not supposed to - crack the outer door without somebody in SHU calling for that door. So I can’t go up to 10 South - or 9 South - right now and say hey, let me get the 27 door. Somebody from SHU has to call for the 27 door. Because the inner door they have the key before you come inside of 9 South. Ee : But there was no cameras ee : No. There was a live feed. There’s always a live feed. |) Bt nothing recording? ee : Nothing recording. I mean the live feed goes to the control center. And the control center officer sees who is at the door. And they will pop the door. ee : Where would that camera EFTA00064078

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Ne] WwW WwW H =] ct a o i?) 0 % 3 (D k on iu) Ee : Um that camera would be ... in the hallway. I think that camera was 9 Sally. I just labeled this y. So you pointed out That would make it ct 5 i) BK o H 5 oO ie o oO Q =s u B QO wu 3 oO K wu it) Ye fu There is in the corner That would make it seven. | Ss corner of -. 0) 6 o o) (e) 5 o p. 3 ct ny I’m not too sure I think there’s one definitely in ioe) EFTA00064079

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ive) fe) would have to key in to see? Or is it 2 just running? 4 in the cameras to see the actual camera call 5 up. You have to call up and hit the button and 6 know what camera it is to call up. 7 a : Did anyone like the SIS 8 office or even the control have like the wo cameras - you know like the feed just running 0 on their screen at all U i) ct Oo o through all the u Ww wu. =] 03) rt - it just sits on 4 keep scrolling through all the cameras. Okay. Do you have Go ahead. wo ring on that? Um. And maybe you 20 ansy ered some of this and maybe just being a N c layman I didn’t But so going back N nN to the beginnir How many cameras are in the N a Or were there in August 9th and 10th? would have to look Nh H Nh wn ct y R OC £ Q y rt a ie) a ® a] wy Q a rt o Oo = EFTA00064081

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Nh Ww ww talking about that? camera working, you not recordi problem with what you’re seeing. Ee : But they are recording or they’ re not recordin a: It could possibly they could be recording or can’t be recording. ee : All right. And then when we jus approximately ten -- cameras in the re - only one 03) wo 1] ecau a om the time. EFTA00064083

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Ne] t is on August 9th. The end 3 first time you knew th 9 Ee : And did you know all 2m were not recording at that time? Aside ee : I didn't know exac what wasn’t recording on the recorder. I don't know exa h ones weren’t working. I just knew that a recorder wa EFTA00064084

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ow oO 10 11 12 13 14 17 18 19 Ee : And how did you know ee : As soon as I went in I saw the drives. Because the drives, usually they’re green when everything is working and amber like when there’s an emergency or something’s wrong. And I saw that there was a few ambers. So like it wasn’t recording. Then I called SigNet, the company. And they said I have to start rebuilding. And what start rebuilding means is I have to pull that hard drive out and start putting fresh hard drives in. And then the system knows like it put a new hard drive in, it starts to sync up, and does this thing where it starts to go through. It does it all of its checks and starts recording. And that would pretty much take a day. ee : That takes like a whole day to do that? ee : A day, yes. And I was at the stage of pulling everything out. That was probably going to take a couple days to pull all the drives out and start recording again. ee : And did you make that 43 EFTA00064085

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oO uU ~l wo WwW wo 23 in the SHU were not r o 0 2) Kk oF Pp =] Q rt 12] a] =) ‘ $) 5 0) v I believe I told my : And who would have been the time? Uh - there was really - like I don't think there was nobody here. t se we were in like the middle of a and that was kind of ch fw oO n that time though you knew basically all the SHU cameras were down but one. ee : No I didn't know a about the ee : No-no-no. I’m talking U cameras. didn’t know what was on the recorders. I just : All right. when you went in, you knew that some recorders - some cameras weren’t recording and you didn’t know ones. EFTA00064086

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WwW oO wo WwW wo 23 Ee : Make sure it comes back up. the end d 0 something. 1e something? being that it happened before, was there sed to do if like - ee : There was no -. At my old jail, I’m not trying to the bus but at old jail, if anything wasn’t working and I was the contact, I couldn’t leave ail. Like if the fence - because we had a - or cameras aren’t recording. I okay, I y. And I’ve said stuff from before. And my old supervisor, but just like oh go home a. don't worry about it. And I’m li 46 EFTA00064088

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rt going to fix i 2 only person that 3 was bad practice on August 9th? 7 HE: ms I'm not too sure. I co oa Oo be bh o ® n me 3 3 O ct 2 b =) ct n 's) ion @ a wu f un o H e) s) 3 t KR o iT) an } K BK oO 3 o 3 o i) it ct 5 it) ct Q fu KK 3 noti wasn’t working. to be back a ct Ss 1) ] 1) rt o wu ke o om 0 fu c tH om H a doing overtime. on August 10th? 8 comi 9 The next morning. 20 next morning to 21 do . 22 : So and is that when ing to EFTA00064089

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1 start the next day and fix -. Ee : And I had the drive too a I do remember t rt Ne] wo ct S wu rt ct bh =] @ : And you said did you ma the 6 notification to? 7 ae : To my supervisor. I don't 8 know exactly which supervisor it was but I know 9 I 4 tification. 0 HN: «So you're positive you 1 made it? would th 4 not it’s not something adio or like go on 9a you in a room 20 know that. tion, I’ EFTA00064090

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wo wo 20 N c N N N a Nh Nh uw But were y like the captain or were dow —-. Because the way the recorders work, the cameras are the captain’s prop you have to notify the captain. Hey, the cameras aren’t recording. ee : And was that your job to Ee : No. I notified my see the captain, I’1l something to him or I’1l tell the lieutenants. But other than being if) that, I don't anything about camera down. Because have to know because I told them I was going to come back the next day. ee : You just don't know who ee : I’m not too sure, no. I don't want to say -. EFTA00064091

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1 front door and then a ‘e) S Q fu K het Q Oo 2) K ct Oo se N go in the room. WwW cameras are working and they’re in this actually in that room lookin Q ink maybe | | was 9 the SIS tech for day. 11 would he have known that they weren’t 7) Ww Oo is =] o } Mn H O o bh n ue] a] 0) rt rt like the live feed and um maybe rding. But little bit different here so I’m not too sure xactly what his functior 0] was. its) n o @ =] ct S p- n wu 5 a oO a] | different w 24 EFTA00064094

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wi Wo the time. 2 by looking the 3 le to known that ording, co 0) Fy wn w it wasn’ 1 telling you that ther would think it was 8 problem. 9 working. your supervisor? your EFTA00064095

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Nh t Nh No N WwW wo 7) WwW wo WwW both the warden as well as the FBI with regard ae : And then I had to contact with the vendor. And they had Q 0 rt H 3 ct i?) explain stuff to the FBI too. Because what I was saying wasn’t making any se. Ee : They weren’t following what you were telling them? sent like a send anybody kind of just a Ee : And possibly when you were talking and I wasn’t - maybe all these tions were answered but I’m not sure. GS: «Sos that’s why I’m trying to put it into layman’s terms. All right. So 1) it -. You said it happened before. wi uw EFTA00064097

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oO) No 1 somebody messed with it. It’s not really 2 something you go in there and start 3 disconnecting. Like the only way to really do ling in that room is to start disconnecting And it’s a spaghetti me 7 ae : Starting to disconnect the 8 stuff is not going to - it’s going to be wo tampered with, see somebody did 0 something. 11 Ee : Is there anyone other who could have gotten into there? 3 Ee : I don't believe so. No. 4 ee : Does the captain, AWs, 5 and the warden have acce to that room? 16 Ee : They don't probably even hing that goes on in that room. The know any 8 only time I will tell them is like to do wo maintenance. I’11 complain and show them the 20 room. Hey, you’ve got to clean this up or -. N c or) s? But do they have acce N ho 9) fw 5 rt a m Q @ rt b 3 ct io) rt o i) KR oO ie) 3 "J N a Uh they would have to get 24 24 hour keys from SIS or somebo would have to 25 give them access to get into that room. EFTA00064104

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wo wo 2 N ho 23 went dow far as the recording, cay. when yo specified as far as the recording, can you tell me w ? %IIs there anything else? ae : Because people believe cameras don't work, like the camera’s A that wi not working. The camera could be throwing out c video because the to 7] goe control center. They see the live video when they’re popping the door. So there’s live video - getting fed. It’s digital side of it. The recording office? ee : Uh no. Now there is. There’s a camera going towards SIS. But before there was no camera. It would just be the third floor - 3 Sally is someone was going in EFTA00064107

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oO) o 1 it’s like a mix and match of old cameras and 2 new cameras - analog cameras and like more 3 computer-based cameras - IP cameras. So right 4 now when the system fails the old analog 5 cameras for the most part are going to work. 6 The problems are going to be the newer cameras 7 on the tiers. The older cameras would always 8 pretty much be recording. If we ever had an 9 issue. 2 issues. Yes. But they’re usually with the 3 newer cameras not with the older ones. 4 ee : Interesting. Okay. And far as - just to make sure we are clear - 5 a i) 16 which of the cameras in the SHU actually were 7 recording on -. 8 ee : Uh the 46-door camera. ee : And that’s the one 20 outside of 10 South? 21 ee : Yes. That’s - and the 22 only reason I know that is because the first wo 23 day they came, they were looking for video. 24 There was no video. And they were like, you’ve ine] uw got to find video. EFTA00064110

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oo wo wo ~l =] cameras, recordings, or hard drives or anything that were sent to try to have the recordings recovered? ae : Uh well the whole thing with everything not recording that day was the way the system works. And we want to work with the vendor and FBI because they had to talk to - the way the system works is if the two drives are bad it’s not going to start recording if) video. It’ wo not going to go on a different drive were you’re going to see bits and pieces of video from that day. You might see old video. But as far as new video from that day, whenever it went bad, you’re not going to see any video. ee : So we had received information saying that video was attempted to be recovered by the FBI. HE: |= hat is meant by that? that they could probably do but, yeah, nothing. Ee : But did they obtain Any hard drives or -? es : They took all the hard tuff fa EFTA00064112

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wo wo drives. They took everything. They took the whole recorder - the whole recoding system. u hey took the next day. Ee : But there’s no way it was recorded - it was -. So if they say it was corrupt and it was unable to be retrieved, what does that mean in layman’s terms? probably garbage. Just yeah. Ee : But there’s nothing. KR Why would they use the word “corrupt”? Ee : Because it’s pretty much - you know, a computer is like one to zero. So probably when they finally get to that they couldn’t retrieve anything. Nothing like you could see or make tangible. Like no real video. ee : See that’s two different things. Right? It’s not like they didn’t retrieve anything. That just means they found the file. They just couldn’t open it. ee: They can’t see it. Yes. ee : That means something recorded. EFTA00064113

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ow oO wo wo ~l No Ee : Not necessarily. It could be garbage. Garbage can record and you think that’s a good thing but it is not a good thing. It says it was recording. That’s why I say that when a camera is bad or good, like I can have a camera that just looking at this and you’re saying okay it’s good but it’s not looking at the whole room. This is nothing. his is garbage. It doesn’t. The camera just knows it’s working until I fix it and then it records the whole room. Then you know it’s working. ae : When you went in on the 10th to take a look at the video, did you actually see the recording files? Or did you not see any files at all? were bad. And I think I tried to -. Yeah because they’re like ex’d out when they’re not working. So you’re not going to see any recording files. You’ll see the live video but you won’t see anything recording. : So you use the software? : To try to open the files. EFTA00064114

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6 And I found that video. Because I wasn’t sure 7 what was on the recorders or what wasn’t on the 1) 8 recorders 0 video? at one point. wo n 2 : And um do you know if 3 that enhanced to be able to see 4 it more clearly? 5 | ti‘(‘ié I have no idea if they did 6 or did not. I did not do that. fee} O © 0 ie) het is) & oO a =] 7 wu 0 t w ct 20 ability to do that? 21 ee : Not without software we 22 have. No. Not going to happen. ee : You mentioned that, maybe tioned there was a work EFTA00064162

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wo wo 2 N iw 23 order created prior to the 9th for the cameras? : Yeah. There was a few work orders that the recorders were going down or failing. We have problems. : When were those created? six months before. It was just a constant e cameras not working. ing to get upgraded. We were - any time there is] w ie] iad oO o pe @ =I H =) wu 0 rt oO a work order or tell like the regiona office like there’s a problem. Because it’s a work order over 10,000 so they have to put money aside to do the work. Like it’s quick fix to fix the recorders. ee : And these recorders were maintained in house or only by SigNet? ee : The work orders we hav in hous are maintained here : Who would have access to in facilities 121 EFTA00064163

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ow oO wo wo pretty much would have access to it. But really facility manager. that the system was down. Has it gone down just like that before? How long did it take you ee : Sometimes maybe a day maybe two days - maybe a couple days. And the thing - and I have to stress also - is just because I saw it down -. it every day. I don't know if it was down for a week, a month, you know. Tt’s not one of those things you check all the time. But I would - since we were having problems more readily, I would always check like once a week to make sure it was working. not like okay I’ve got to go up here and check it because it wasn’t happening. That was my next question. Did you just happen to walk in there that day? ee : I already knew we were having issues. And I think I got the hard On August 3th when you saw Because I don't check But before it was EFTA00064164

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= =) Wo 1 drives out. Because I was going to take them see what was going on. ee : Now based on the 4 this happened before. Right. Was that same WwW D xact Situation. Same exact -. 7 a : Same exact drives? 8 ee : Um I think it’s switched. could a n wo 0 recorder two. I don't think it was just the same recorder all the time because one recorder 2 whole motherboard have to get 3 replaced. And that was again I think that was 4 recorder two. And before driv would or two, so 8 that the drives were not recording. wo K i) it) NO a cal iu) a ie) ad nN Q o A. K o o EFTA00064165

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Nh Nh No N WwW wo 7) WwW wo WwW a : Um now we have redundant drives. So if one drive fails, you always have I’m talking about prior to the 9th. Oh. Prior to the 9th? No. There was really nothing. They just knew we had a problem. We had ordered the new system. We were online to get But we were just ee : And the record would show that there was an order for -? ee : Yeah. And that we have f to get it installed. Fh the shipping stu It was got installed a couple - um the = happened on the 9th, 10th, or llth. That’s when the new ee : I got nothing else. ee : Yeah. The other thing. We've already asked you this, but I just want to make sure. So of you supervisor 124 EFTA00064166

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95 ) Ne] would we again Ww ia] fe] ure out who that was at the time? 5 HE: = TT don't know. you too sure who to ask. J ct S D hh wu Qa Bb b b ct L*) 3 ny] =) wv ite] ui) Kh ry on co 9 how 0 1 but 2 Act at the time. I don't think he got the 3 position yet. H if 3 i ct Z oO th wu 5) fm c b t+ a @ n 5 manager now? 8 notified who was the facilities manager at 0 r my foreman 21 of those two. I usually EFTA00064167

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Ne] WwW WwW to notify somebody. I can’t just walk out of the building and not say anything. a : But I don't even think we had a was two years ago. I’m this was such a big deal and these cameras were such a big part of it, did you ever learn if either of those EFTA00064168

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127 Ne] -. Did we have WwW 4 a conversation after? I 5 it got -. They - I’m pret it wasn’t working because I came back the WwW ng to get 6 CS : 81) ight. 7 ee : Because I would have told Q 0 21 say Nw h wu 24 captain happene EFTA00064169

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wo Ne] WwW fee} wo a known going down. So rders were I’d have to say hey, this is what’s going on. Gotcha. I’m trying to fix it. I’l1l be back tomorrow. I think i) that’s all I’ve got. rt > B 5 n o u os Oo c bo Q. p o there anything else you asked you that we didn’t ask? this It’s I just - I just hope I’m mean I comfortable was nother institution. I 1] knew what I was doing And I % A nd recorders. far as th wo cameras wu fo U know how all that stuff works. But I just wish the Bureau would be more proactive as far as new stuff. Like I know now But top everything. jtle not good. All right. my only thing. EFTA00064170

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Ne] WwW WwW to actually been rectified? There still needs a lot of work? st to keep up to date with other institut This institution I’ve did a lot of overtime here. thoughts Sure. I that what I thought you meant M We’ re up to EFTA00064171

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ow oO ~—] wo 130 one camera in a housing unit. When I was in Brooklyn, I was custody, it was cameras all over the place. I went to Indiana and I was a contact at a complex which was a high, medium, low, there’s a camp, there’s a death row. There’s cameras everywhere. I come to this jail, New York City. And I’m expecting cameras everywhere. And one of the first things was like, oh, we don't have money for that. We don't have money for this. We don't have money for that. And I just kept saying hey, you guys got to do something. This is a problem. God forbid this is what happened. But I just wish there was more proactivity. Like -. ee : But right now, MCC is up to speed? ee : We’re good. Yeah we’re good. We don’t have any issues. ee : So when you made that statement, you’re talking about other facilities. ee : Yes. Other facilities in general. I wish the Bureau would invest more money. EFTA00064172

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1 Ee : And training too. Like 2 just getting new equipment. That’s not it. 3 Also train the staff. Because even like when I } oO ow R 3 oO >d how to do the cameras stuff, it was never t Ws. c n rt 3 oO i) © KK rt J i) ue] to Oo =] Oo = Bb ct J n ray Q 2 oO ct H 6 really went to a physical training. Hey, 7 RJ this is the 8 drive out, do X, Y, and Z. I’m just like I’m tem you have. Take this on the phone. I’m looking at it. Okay. The wo QO light is this color. This is - I’m a smart guy. I could figure it out. But at the same 4 ee : Somebody that’s not really Going to be lost. All right. Thank you so much for taking your time. I know you just had 8 that leave training. So I really appreciate wo ct y rt Thank you Mr. | N c 22 again So if there’s nothing else, this is 23 Special Agent | ti(‘i‘zw The time is 3:44 Nh ue] =] 12) 5 Thursday July 15, 2021. I am turning Nh uw o Fh Hh Ff the recorder. Ending the interview and EFTA00064173

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Ca) Ability - 120:20 Able - 53:3, 60:9, 74:22, 119:9, 120:13 Above - 5:21 Accordingly - 5:13 Acknowledge - 36: 4 Act - 5:5 Acting - 125:12 Action - 5:14 Actions - 123:20, 123:25 Activated - 101:9 Active - 8:14 Actual - 18:17, 39:4, 73:3, 79:13 AD - 85:23 Add - 20:11 Added - 66:14 Adding - 20:14 Additional - 75:12, 75:17 Address - 7:5, 18:7 Addressed - 18:5, 26:8 Administer - 107:12 Advise - 49:2 AED - 91:21, 93:2, 93:4, 103:24, 104:14, 105:23, 106:2, 107:22, 109:6 Afternoon - 76:2 Again - 3:23, 18:18, 43:24, 58:23, 64:2, 113:12, 116:3, 123:13, 125:3, 125:17, 128:15, 131:22 Against - 5:15, 5:24 Agency - 5:18 Agent - 3:1, 3:4, 3:18, 3:20, 3:23, 4:1, 6:7, 6:9, 6:11, 131:23 Agent's - 116:7 Ago - 10:8, 66:20, 80:24, 126:14 Agree - 4:18 Ahead - 39:18, 129:21 Aid - 107:12 Alarm - 12:20, 84:21, 84:22, 85:2, 86:9, 101:8, 101:25, 112:25, 117:14 Alibi - 96:3 Allowed - 60:12, 100:16 Almost - 76:6, 102:8 Along - 57:1 Already - 25:5, 86:17, 88:9, 98:17, 104:3, 104:4, 106:15, 122:24, 124:24 Altogether - 27:21, §2:25 Always - 17:18, 24:11, 36:19, 40:2, 68:7, 109:11, 122:17, 124:2 Am - 3:23, 5:21, 6:11, 131:24 Amber - 43:6, 45:3, 52:19 Ambers - 43:8 Ambulance - 86:4 Amended - 5:5 Analog - 15:19, 15:20, 15:23, 15:24, 16:3, 16:4, 16:8, 16:11, 16:13, 16:16, 21:13, 22:23, 59:9, 68:2, 68:4 And/Or - 125:24 - 94:1, 94:2, 95:2, 95:21, 98:15, 99:13, 99:16, 99:22, 100:17, 111:18, 112:1, 112:8, 112:21, 117:22 Another - 9:22, 17:11, 24:25, 27:1, 30:18, 57:5, 59:6, 127:21, 128:17 Answer - 5:14, 5:16, 6:22 Answered - 39:20, 55:20 Answers - 4:17 Anybody's - 14:1 Anyway - 57:20, 66:3 Anywhere - 25:20 Apartment - 7:9 Apologize - 4:13, 48:24 Appreciate - 131:18 Approved - 25:7, 50:21, 50:24 Approximately - 29 214, 40:1, 40:9, 41:16, 56:8, 111:17, 117:7 Area - 30:15, 30:17, 30:24, 32:10, 34:16, 34:24, 35:3, 37:21, 66:17, 75:8, 99:13 Aren't - 46:19, 49:7, 80:15 Around - 10:8, 18:13, 20:18, 23:15, 46:5, 50:14, 64:16, 82:3, 90:2, 90:12, 91:3, 91:5, 91:8, 92:12, 92:15, 99:13, 101:2, 113:13, 113:24 Arrived - 87:16, 104:8, 104:10 Arrow - 31:14, 32:1, 32:7 Aside - 42:20, 100:24, 121:15 Ask - 6:23, 60:19, 63:18, 97:6, 125:6, 128:13 Asked - 4:17, 5:1, 48:25, 78:16, 102:25, 118:1, 124:24, 127:4, 128:13 Asking - 82:11 Assist - 95:2 Assistant's - 3:17 Associate - 19:23, 20:2 Assurances - 4:24, 5:20 Attempted - 70:17 AW - 19:23, 20:1 Aware - 38:6 Away - 87:23, 101:13, 117:5 Aws - 62:14 Background - 11:12 Backup - 124:3 Bad - 23:9, 23:10, 27:4, 47:3, 57:21, 64:18, 70:9, 70:14, 72:5, 72:18 Ms - 21:1 Base - 73:3 Based - 68:3, 116:7, 123:3 Basement - 101:15, 101:17 Basically - 44:12 Basis - 4:25 Bay - 23:18 Became - 9:16, 9:23 - 19:6, 19:7 Become - 11:6 Beginning - 39:22, 119:18 Behind - 51:19, 60:25, 108:23, 109:20 Being - 3:10, 3:14, 4:17, 5:1, 5:2, 5:4, 22:3, 39:20, 46:11, 49:14, 83:15, 83:19, 106:17, 106:22, 107:3, 108:11, 113:20, 126:16 Below - 6:2 Best - 40:16 Between - 19:8, 40:25, 75:19, 95:9, 115:22 Big - 28:19, 126:17, 126:18 Biggest - 17:8 Birth - 7:8, 7:10 Bit - 52:16, 55:16, 86:7, 91:11, 101:4 Bits - 70:11 Board - 24:21 Body - 84:21, 84:22, 85:1, 86:9, 101:8, 101:25, 108:11, 112:25, 117:14 Bogs - 67:19 BOP - 8:9, 9:7, 12:15, 83:18 Both - 4:5, 5:19, 15:22, 28:20, 55:2, 112:2, 125:22 Bottom - 18:23, 29:7 Box - 34:17 Boxers - 90:20, 90:22 Breath - 107:20 Breathing - 111:7 Bring - 106:3, 109:1 Broadcast - 48:18 Brooklyn - 9:14, 130:2 Brought - 93:8 Bruised - 91:11 Bruising - 92:11 Building - 13:21, 124:15, 126:2 Builds - 24:14 Bunch - 56:6 Bunk - 108:12 Bureau - 3:8, 8:21, 11:11, 11:13, 11:20, 19:25, 128:20, 129:23, 130:23 Bus - 46:16 Button - 39:5 Buying - 128:21 Buzz - 35:22 Buzzes - 35:23 Lc) HMB - 85:15, 85:16, 86:2, 86:11, 86:12, 92:19 Called - 24:2, 43:9, 83:18, 118:24, 119:14 Calling - 36:10 Calls - 78:17, 78:18, 79:18, 79:25, 80:15, 82:19, 82:20, 82:21, 83:14, 92:22, 103:1 Camera's - 65:8 Camp - 130:5 Captain - 46:13, 49:2, 49:7, 49:11, 49:12, 50:7, 50:8, 50:11, 50:19, 62:14, 127:24 Captain's - 49:6 Case - 24:14, 83:19, 83:24 Cause - 51:8, 64:9 Cell - 7:14, 87:16, 89:19, 92:7, 92:9, 105:24, 110:17, 116:16, 117:3, 117:5 Cells - 97:2, 116:23 Center - 3:15, 36:22, 36:23, 38:21, 38:24, 65:11 Central - 74:11, 74:20 Certain - 12:5 Change - 14:25, 17:19, 17:21, 42:6 Changed - 36:2 Channels - 27:5, 27:14 Chaos - 44:10 Charge - 25:11, 82:10 - 19:6, 19:7, 85:15, 86:13, 86:14 Check - 13:23, 14:9, 14:11, 14:13, 82:2, 107:19, 110:20, 111:7, 122:12, 122:15, 122:17, 122:19 Checked - 17:4, 111:21, 111:22 Checking - 17:2 Checklist - 14:16, 15:6 Checks - 43:16 EFTA00064176

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Chest - 86:3, 87:22, 92:19, 93:6, 103:11, 103:12, 104:9, 107:15, 108:1, 108:10, 117:16 Choose - 5:15 GB. (25:10 Circle - 31:14 Circumstances - 4: 16, 7:4, 58:15 City - 8:3, 9:25, 130:7 Clarify - 7:1 Clean - 62:20 Clear - 68:15, 107:24 Clearly - 120:14 Closed - 74:14, 74:16 Closets - 59:10 CO - 80:3, 80:6 Coercion - 5:23 Coincidence - 64:3 Coincidental - 58:2 1, 58:22, 65:1 College - 7:19, 7:20, 7:21, 7:24, 8:1, 11:24 Color - 131:10 92:21, 92:23, 92:25, 107:22 Comes - 46:2 Comfortable - 128: 16 Coming - 30:5, 35:25, 47:18, 50:22, 51:1, 83:1, 83:10, 126:7 Command - 38:24 Comments - 94:23, 96:3 Common - 30:15, 30:17, 30:24, 32:10, 34:24, 35:3, 37:20 Communication - 1 3:22, 14:1 Community - 7:21, 7:25 Company - 43:9 Complain - 62:19 Completely - 58:21 Complex - 9:20, 130:4 Component - 12:5 Compressions - 86 23, 87:22, 92:19, 103:11, 103:13, 104:9, 107:16, 108:1, 117:16 Computer - 14:5, 24:22, 51:4, 68:3, 71:14, 73:14, 73:20, 112:18 Computers - 16:24, 67:17 Conducted - 3:10, 3:15, 5:2, 5:4 Confident - 106:5 Confusing - 15:20, 116:1 Connected - 73:8 Constant - 121:7 Contact - 24:5, 46:17, 55:8, 130:4 Contractor - 11:15 Control - 35:22, 35:23, 36:3, 36:22, 36:23, 38:21, 39:8, 65:11, 80:14 Conversation - 118: 7, 127:1, 127:4 Converted - 16:9, 16:15 Copy - 25:20, 79:8, 81:3, 81:5 Cores - 12:5 Corner - 37:11, 37:13, 37:17, 37:19, 108:15, 108:16, 109:1 Corps - 8:16, 12:10, 12:14 Correct - 59:2, 113:4 Correctional - 3:15, 9:14 Corrupt - 71:6, 71:12 CO's - 96:4, 116:25 Couldn't - 46:17, 71:16, 71:22, 109:7 Couple - 43:23, 122:10, 124:19 Course - 20:5, 66:15 Court - 83:6 CPR - 90:5, 91:22, 109:24, 109:25 Crack - 36:9 Create - 121:11, 121:12 Created - 25:5, 26:7, 121:1, 121:5 Credentials - 3:7, 4:2 Crime - 117:4, 117:8 Criminal - 5:18 Crossed - 34:3 Current - 7:5, 7:14, 10:17 Curve - 129:21 Custody - 58:5, 93:13, 93:22, 130:2 Cut - 90:8, 91:3, 104:12, 105:21 Cutting - 90:11 Daily - 13:19, 14:8 3:8, 4:3 Date - 6:12, 7:8, 7:9, 9:3, 17:10, 17:13, 129:1, 129:14 Dates - 10:11, 82:3 Days - 43:23, 81:15, 122:10 Deal - 126:17 Dealing - 118:3 Death - 4:15, 20:19, 20:20, 21:9, 25:13, 25:16, 25:17, 130:5 Decide - 31:25, 56:21 Definitely - 37:20, 37:21, 126:4 Definitively - 53:21 Dennis - 3:18, 4:1, 6:11 Department - 3:5, 3:11, 4:22 Described - 90:14 Desk - 15:18, 99:13, 112:19, 113:22 Devices - 58:18 Dialed - 79:22 Didn't’ - 60:2, 91:6, 93:3 Dies - 58:12 Difference - 40:24, 115:22 Different - 24:11, 33:21, 36:6, 41:4, 41:24, 52:16, 52:22, 52:24, 69:23, 70:10, 71:19 Differentiate - 33:2 0, 40:20 Differently - 46:23 Digital - 15:20, 16:1, 16:9, 16:17, 22:24, 65:14 Directing - 89:10 Direction - 31:15, 32:1, 32:7, 66:1 Directly - 8:25, 34:22, 58:6 Discharge - 8:18 Disciplinary - 5:14, 5:18 Disconnect - 62:7 Disconnecting - 62: 3, 62:4 Disheveled - 94:8 Distinctive - 92:9 Document - 24:13 Documented - 50:3 Documents - 20:24 Does - 11:9, 13:18, 40:12, 43:15, 43:16, 62:14, 71:7, 71:11, 74:10, 100:15, 101:17, 123:21 Doesn't - 27:8, 72:9, 76:11 Doesn't’ - 5:9, 11:24, 39:13 DOJ - 3:18, 4:14, 4:21, 79:11 Done - 14:24, 73:25, 78:13, 82:2, 91:22, 95:19, 108:2, 129:11 Don't’ - 34:7, 93:21 Doors - 36:1, 51:23, 74:13 Downstairs - 15:13, 92:1, 93:5, 101:13 Drawing - 33:13, 35:4 Drew - 33:15 Dry - 55:17 Duration - 80:17 During - 6:19, 6:21, 14:24, 18:11, 19:11, 21:23, 22:14, 23:16, 23:25, 69:21 Duties - 13:19 Duty - 8:15, 9:3, 107:21 ee | Each - 29:16, 29:20, 29:21, 31:23, 37:8, 100:3 Education - 7:18 Eh - 77:15 Eight - 37:24 Either - 26:18, 126:19 Electrical - 8:7 Electronic - 12:13 Electronics - 4:8, 9:17, 9:23, 10:4, 10:18, 11:5, 11:14, 11:16, 12:12, 13:11 Elevator - 15:10, 85:13, 85:14, 86:10, 87:14, 89:6 Elevators - 35:16 Else - 13:1, 30:12, 54:2, 65:6, 76:9, 84:3, 89:8, 90:25, 96:6, 99:25, 100:1, 100:23, 102:13, 115:3, 124:22, 128:12, 131:22 Email - 81:22 Emailed - 81:24 Emergency - 43:6 Employee - 4:24, 61 Encoder - 16:16 End - 21:5, 23:23, 23:24, 29:16, 29:19, 31:22, 42:10, 42:17, 46:4, 84:8 Ending - 131:25 Ends - 79:17 Engineer - 8:7 Engineering - 20:25 , 26:2, 26:3 Enhanced - 120:13 Enough - 77:16, 77:18, 105:23 Entail - 13:19 Entailed - 21:10 Enter - 9:3 Entire - 82:24, 111:17 Entrance - 35:13, 35:16 Entry - 66:6 Epstein - 4:16, 7:3, 15:1, 58:9, 79:2, 89:24, 96:11, 103:5, 110:9, 110:12, 116:4, 116:10, 118:13 Epstein's - 20:19, 20:20, 21:9, 25:13, 25:16, 25:17, 99:3, 99:4, 110:16 Equipment - 17:9, 18:24, 131:2 Error - 23:1 Ese - 13:25 Especially - 36:5 Ever - 54:6, 54:9, 55:25, 68:8, 81:3, 108:2, 115:3, 120:13, 126:18, 126:19, 127:8, 127:9 Every - 79:24, 122:13 Everybody - 87:13, 89:11, 117:3, 127:5 Everybody's - 18:1 6, 90:1 Everyone - 3:21 Everything's - 12:9 EFTA00064177

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Everywhere - 129:2 2, 130:6, 130:8 Evidence - 5:17, 76:18, 102:14 Exact - 123:5, 123:7 Exactly - 21:10, 28:10, 42:22, 42:24, 48:8, 48:25, 52:17, 90:10, 105:13, 123:24 Ex'd - 72:19 Executive - 3:17 Expecting - 130:7 Experience - 12:8 Expert - 119:23 Explain - 22:20, 55:9 er Facilities - 19:3, 25:22, 83:18, 121:25, 125:1, 125:14, 125:18, 130:21, 130:22 Facility - 18:9, 19:7, 19:8, 19:14, 25:10, 25:25, 26:3, 79:25, 121:23, 122:2, 125:7 Facing - 108:19 Fact - 26:8, 33:20, 54:5, 58:8, 123:3, 127:2 Fail - 51:9 Failed - 22:25 Failing - 121:4 Fails - 68:4, 124:2 Failure - 5:7, 5:10 Familiar - 24:7 Fast - 109:14 Favor - 82:1 FBI - 54:18, 55:2, 55:9, 69:2, 70:7, 70:18, 119:19 Fear - 18:16 Fed - 65:13 Federal - 3:7, 8:21, 9:20 Feed - 36:19, 36:22, 39:9, 52:14, 53:6, 65:10, 99:20, 100:7, 100:18, 112:23, 115:24, 116:23 Feeding - 94:17, 99:18, 99:22, 100:4, 100:5, 100:9, 100:16, 100:24, 116:8, 116:9, 116:24 Fence - 46:18, 46:19 Few - 25:16, 43:8, 68:11, 73:20, 81:14, 89:5, 121:2 Field - 3:6, 11:19, 55:14 Figure - 56:14, 125:4, 131:11 Figured - 69:7 File - 71:22, 99:3, 99:4, 99:6, 99:8, 99:11, 99:15 Files - 72:15, 72:16, 72:21, 72:25, 73:3, 113:20, 118:3, 119:6, 119:8 Finally - 71:15 Find - 50:1, 54:6, 68:25, 73:3, 78:18, 78:22, 78:25, 119:24, 119:25 Fine - 28:21, 129:16 Fire - 12:20 Five - 10:7, 17:14 Fix - 46:20, 47:1, 47:6, 47:23, 47:24, 48:1, 56:24, 57:8, 57:14, 57:19, 59:21, 72:10, 121:16, 122:8, 128:7 Floor - 23:4, 65:25, 86:4, 88:2, 88:4, 92:3, 92:20 Fly - 24:16, 57:7 Focus - 40:15 Folder - 25:22 Follow - 66:8, 92:17, 97:6, 108:5 Following - 9:9, 55:11 Food - 85:15, 95:3, 95:6 Forbid - 130:13 Foreman - 25:10, 125:20, 125:24, 125:25, 126:9, 126:13, 126:15 Forgot - 20:4 Form - 4:21, 4:22, 5:25, 6:3, 6:5, 6:7 Forth - 35:20, 51:3, 96:1 Found - 69:12, 71:21, 79:5, 116:10, 118:13, 120:2, 120:6 Four - 8:14, 10:7 Free - 109:6 Fresh - 43:12 Friday - 13:6, 13:7 Front - 28:13, 29:22, 35:16, 52:1, 76:12, 84:21, 109:19 Fuck - 95:19 Function - 52:17 Funded - 21:7 Furnish - 5:17 Future - 5:17, 123:22 Ls Garbage - 71:9, 72:2, 72:9 Gates - 88:9 Gathered - 90:2 Gave - 79:4, 79:12, 81:4, 81:6, 81:9, 81:18, 81:19, 81:21, 92:23 General - 3:6, 3:12, 4:23, 5:3, 5:5, 6:9, 12:3, 25:10, 66:1, 66:17, 125:20, 125:23, 125:24, 125:25, 126:9, 126:13, 126:15, 130:23 Gets - 101:8, 116:1 Getting - 51:6, 65:13, 78:18, 131:2 Give - 28:20, 62:25, 73:14, 79:19, 80:8, 93:2 Gives - 11:12 Giving - 25:1, 95:3 God - 130:12 Goes - 15:16, 23:9, 23:10, 24:9, 27:4, 27:10, 27:11, 36:22, 62:17, 65:11, 66:16, 76:12 Gone - 67:1, 67:11, 98:17, 122:4 Good - 16:7, 48:23, 53:8, 72:3, 72:5, 72:7, 77:13, 109:13, 109:20, 128:23, 130:17, 130:18 Gotcha - 128:6 Gotten - 62:12 Government - 11:1 5 Grab - 113:23 Graduate - 9:6 Grainy - 40:16, 77:13, 77:17 Green - 43:5 Grill - 29:23, 100:11, 100:13 Grille - 97:3 Ground - 109:5, 109:8, 109:10 Guardia - 7:25 Guess - 61:14, 61:16, 79:3, 85:3, 110:8 Guy - 51:4, 93:1, 131:11 Guys - 21:11, 33:3, 95:18, 95:19, 96:18, 97:3, 126:25, 130:11 ee Half - 9:24, 45:5, 56:19 Hallway - 35:19, 37:3, 85:23 Hand - 6:18, 12:6 Handed - 95:6 Hanging - 104:20, 104:22, 105:3, 105:20 Happen - 63:7, 63:19, 93:21, 101:20, 109:18, 120:22, 122:22, 123:21 Happening - 88:17, 122:20 Happens - 23:13, 128:15 Hard - 16:20, 16:21, 43:11, 43:12, 43:14, 51:5, 70:1, 70:24, 70:25, 122:25 Hardware - 24:10 Has - 5:24, 25:9, 36:6, 36:13, 60:24, 63:1, 66:9, 80:6, 122:4 Hasn't - 14:15 Haute - 9:16, 9:19 Having - 14:2, 17:6, 24:12, 64:1, 119:3, 122:16, 122:25 Head - 88:15, 91:14, 108:18, 108:19 Headphones - 91:1 4 Heard - 84:21, 95:11 Hell - 114:18, 114:22 Help - 24:17, 27:13, 112:23 Helping - 87:19 Her - 94:9, 94:13, 94:16, 95:9, 118:2 He's - 19:24, 77:7, 104:20 Hesitate - 109:16 Hesitation - 109:17 Hey - 14:4, 21:4, 23:3, 36:12, 45:23, 46:13, 49:7, 56:19, 62:20, 64:17, 118:17, 127:9, 128:5, 130:11, 131:6 High - 130:4 Highest - 7:17 Hip - 36:7 Hit - 39:5, 85:1 Hm - 13:2, 33:20 Hmm - 16:10, 45:10, 50:13, 58:10, 108:13 —_ : =“ 17, 41:12, 125:25 Hold - 81:20, 105:20 Holding - 105:9, 105:14, 105:15, 108:21, 108:23 Home - 7:5, 46:24, 47:1, 47:6, 56:23 Honest - 114:21 Honestly - 102:21, 103:8 Honing - 117:21 Honorable - 8:17 Hope - 128:15 Hospital - 93:8 Hour - 17:25, 62:24, 84:9, 93:15, 111:18 Hours - 17:17 House - 74:17, 121:18, 121:20 Housing - 29:3, 93:14, 130:1 Hung - 80:19 a I'd - 128:5 Idea - 22:12, 53:10, 109:21, 120:15 Identify - 3:21 I'll - 6:23, 6:24, 28:20, 35:2, 35:4, 45:6, 49:12, 49:13, 62:19, 88:5, 99:20, 128:8 Improvements - 12 9:3 Incident - 66:21, 76:21, 78:12 Indiana - 9:19, 130:3 Indiscernible - 26:1 3, 28:16, 32:3, 32:4, 32:6, 51:20, 73:23, EFTA00064178

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77:21, 106:9, 125:9 Individual - 100:3 Information - 4:25, 5:1, 70:17, 79:20, 97:12, 126:20 Initial - 118:7 Initially - 94:21, 106:22, 113:1, 116:18 Inmate - 4:15, 7:2, 58:11, 80:1, 80:6, 82:19, 93:19, 105:19, 109:13 Inmates - 35:13, 83:13, 95:9, 95:11, 95:14, 95:24, 100:21, 109:12, 109:19, 109:20, 110:15, 113:17 Inner - 36:7, 36:14, 88:12 Inside - 27:15, 36:7, 36:15, 88:20, 88:22, 117:3 Inspector - 3:5, 3:12, 4:23, 5:3, 5:5, 6:9 Install - 18:23 Installed - 18:25, 124:9, 124:10, 124:17, 124:18, 124:19, 124:21 Instance - 129:25 Institution - 17:11, 24:25, 57:6, 74:9, 82:24, 83:2, 128:17, 129:15, 129:25 Institutions - 18:15, 129:10, 129:14 Intentionally - 67:9 Interactions - 95:9 Interesting - 68:14 Interview - 3:7, 3:14, 3:19, 4:19, 5:13, 6:16, 6:19, 6:21, 7:2, 131:25 Interviewed - 119:1 9, 119:20 Into - 4:15, 22:7, 23:11, 23:12, 55:23, 59:11, 62:12, 62:22, 62:25, 76:9, 88:8, 99:4, 110:16 Invest - 130:23 Investigation - 3:13 , 4:15, 5:2, 5:4, 5:6, 5:11, 128:14 Involve - 11:9 Involved - 97:10 Involving - 5:11 IP - 21:13, 67:15, 67:16, 68:3, 129:21 Isn't - 14:4, 23:8, 45:23, 67:18 Issue - 68:9 Issues - 67:15, 68:12, 122:25, 130:18 Its - 43:16 Itself - 21:18, 21:19 I've - 10:14, 45:23, 46:13, 46:23, 77:19, 108:5, 122:19, 128:10, 129:9, 129:16 Jail - 46:15, 46:16, 46:18, 47:4, 67:8, 127:21, 130:7 January - 7:10 HB - 85:18, 86:16, 87:7, 89:9, 94:23 Jeffrey - 4:15, 7:3 Job - 5:6, 5:10, 12:8, 12:10, 12:17, 12:24, 14:8, 19:17, 49:8, 52:13, 78:5, 93:12, 95:18, 111:2, 111:4 July - 3:2, 3:13, 6:13, 77:23, 77:24, 118:11, 131:24 Justice - 3:5, 3:12, 4:23 a Keep - 39:14, 92:23, 119:8, 129:13 Keeping - 32:6 Kept - 26:4, 91:25, 130:11 Key - 36:6, 36:14, 39:1, 39:3, 51:19, 51:20, 60:3, 61:17, 66:6, 89:4 Keypad - 38:19 Keys - 62:24 Kill - 59:11, 97:2 Killed - 95:15, 95:16, 95:17, 96:9, 96:11, 96:17, 96:18, 97:3, 97:13, 110:25, 111:10, 111:12 Knowledge - 53:21 Known - 52:11, 53:3, 57:25, 128:3 Knows - 27:5, 43:13, 51:4, 72:10, 74:7, 117:3 La -7:25 Labeled - 37:4 HM - 95:3, 95:21, 99:13, 99:17, 99:23, 17:17, 20:3 Later - 17:4, 69:5, 84:9 Laying - 91:18, 106:9, 106:11, 106:13, 106:18, 106:24 Layman - 39:21 Layman's - 55:23, 71:7 Layne - 111:18, 112:2, 112:8, 112:21, 117:22 Learn - 126:18 Learned - 131:4 Least - 123:22 Leave - 42:7, 46:17, 111:15, 127:18, 127:21, 131:18 Leaves - 76:14 Leaving - 60:2 Left - 57:21, 75:3, 75:16, 76:1, 76:25, 84:7, 102:18, 113:7, 116:17, 116:19, 117:12 Legal - 79:18, 79:20, 79:25 Legs - 108:19 Let - 6:23, 30:15, 34:11, 36:12, 57:23, 76:19, 94:16, 99:19, 127:25 Let's - 25:3, 27:5, 28:19, 28:22, 34:4, 75:24, 80:5, 85:10, 88:8 Letters - 31:8 Level - 7:17, 12:5 Levels - 29:5 Lieutenant - 85:17, 85:18, 86:16, 87:7, 89:9, 93:25, 94:2, 94:23, 111:22, 112:11 Lieutenants - 49:13 , 73:18 Lieutenant's - 38:2 2 Life - 21:5, 110:10, 110:13, 116:4 Lifesaving - 101:10 Light - 131:10 Line - 6:8, 77:20, 82:17, 83:19 Lines - 57:2 List - 18:23, 22:13 Listen - 15:14 Little - 15:19, 52:16, 55:16, 67:16, 80:24, 83:15, 85:25, 86:7, 91:11, 93:20, 94:8, 101:4 Live - 36:18, 36:19, 36:22, 38:13, 38:16, §2:14, 53:6, 65:10, 65:11, 65:13, 72:21, 73:22, 115:23 Located - 3:16 Lock - 116:23 Locked - 51:19, 67:8, 116:24, 117:19 Log - 74:21, 79:15, 80:16 Logged - 74:1, 82:6 Logs - 80:20, 81:3, 81:6, 81:9, 81:10, 82:11 Long - 8:20, 66:20, 79:16, 79:23, 80:17, 80:22, 116:13, 116:20, 122:7 Longer - 19:24, 27:13 Look - 14:5, 14:14, 16:2, 16:5, 20:23, 22:13, 39:24, 52:14, 52:15, 52:25, 53:16, 69:6, 72:14, 73:13, 77:15, 78:16, 89:23 Looked - 73:22, 76:24, 76:25, 94:7 Looking - 29:8, 29:22, 30:16, 30:18, 32:12, 32:17, 34:10, 37:4, 52:5, 53:2, 68:23, 72:6, 72:8, 131:9 Looks - 37:5, 53:8, 69:16, 109:13 Lost - 131:15 Low - 130:5 Lower - 29:9, 32:14 Lowering - 104:25 Lucky - 124:10 = 3:2, 3:3, 3:20, 3:23, 131:23 a Machine - 14:4, 85:23, 93:2, 93:4, 109:6 Mad - 120:5 Made - 5:23, 48:4, 48:9, 48:11, 48:14, 54:1, 57:16, 58:25, 69:22, 79:7, 94:22, 96:3, 126:4, 130:19 Mail - 14:3 Main - 21:15, 24:22, 60:24 Mainly - 73:12 Maintain - 78:7, 78:10, 81:17 Maintained - 25:19, 26:5, 80:20, 121:18, 121:20 Maintenance - 62:1 9, 67:6, 128:21 Major - 8:6 Majority - 21:22, 22:2 Making - 55:10, 56:17, 78:17, 92:21, 95:16, 95:17, 113:16 Malaise - 87:14 Management - 18:1 0, 19:19, 19:21 Manager - 18:9, 19:3, 19:7, 19:14, 25:10, 25:25, 26:4, 121:23, 122:2, 125:1, 125:7, 125:15, 125:18, 125:23 Managers - 19:8 Manipulate - 74:1 Manipulated - 61:2 2, 113:20 Manipulating - 118: 3 Manually - 74:4 Many - 29:4, 39:22, 45:3, 92:2 Map - 28:9 March - 8:22, 8:24, 9:4, 9:10, 11:7 .- 8:15, 12:10, 12:14 Mark - 28:15, 31:6, 31:10, 31:13, 35:7 Marshals - 83:6 Match - 31:7, 68:1 Matrix - 15:19, 15:20, 15:21, 38:13, 38:14, 38:17 = 419:23 }- 20:25 EFTA00064179

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Mattresses - 92:3 May - 5:17, 105:2 MCC - 6:14, 9:12, 10:2, 10:3, 10:6, 10:13, 39:23, 130:15 MCC's - 129:19 Mean - 5:9, 11:24, 12:2, 36:21, 40:12, 45:22, 60:21, 67:4, 71:7, 71:11, 83:4, 84:23, 84:25, 98:8, 101:17, 105:14, 117:15, 128:16 Meaning - 13:14 Means - 5:10, 43:11, 50:14, 71:21, 71:24 Meant - 49:1, 70:20, 110:25, 129:19 Measures - 101:11 Medical - 86:1, 91:25, 92:17, 92:21, 92:25, 93:1, 93:7, 114:15, 117:15 Medium - 130:4 Member - 82:19, 82:21 Members - 73:21 Mention - 19:22, 98:10 Mentioned - 14:7, 19:3, 19:18, 20:5, 92:10, 120:24, 120:25 Mess - 59:11, 62:5, 69:24, 94:25 Messed - 62:1 Messing - 64:14 Metropolitan - 3:15 Michael - 86:25, 87:2, 94:21 Middle - 44:9 Might - 57:22, 70:12, 81:24, 87:9, 111:21 Military - 8:13, 11:14 Mind - 32:22 Minutes - 18:1, 110:4 Mistaken - 120:25 Mix - 68:1 Mixture - 15:22 Mm - 13:2, 16:10, 45:10, 50:13, 58:10, 67:2, 92:8, 108:8, 108:13, 126:21 Modern - 17:12 Money - 20:13, 21:7, 121:10, 121:15, 130:9, 130:10, 130:24 Monitor - 53:3, 61:10 Monitored - 83:16 Monitors - 53:1 Month - 80:24, 122:14 Months - 24:20, 121:7 More - 14:18, 17:13, 20:12, 51:4, 68:2, 77:20, 97:17, 120:14, 122:16, 128:20, 128:22, 129:23, 130:14, 130:23 Morning - 13:15, 15:9, 47:19, 47:20, 69:14, 69:15, 84:15, 94:18 Most - 58:9, 68:5, 73:17, 77:16 Mother - 24:21, 95:20 Motherboard - 123: 12 Move - 69:22, 84:4, 90:2, 91:4, 104:15, 107:9, 108:24, 109:21, 113:24 Moved - 9:25, 35:13, 106:17, 106:22, 107:3, 109:24 Moves - 109:15 Moving - 35:20, 64:16, 64:18, 89:25, 91:20, 104:24 Ms - 85:14, 85:21, 86:13, 86:14, 86:18 Multiple - 45:16 Myself - 60:18, 99:19 a Nah - 60:17, 74:23, 80:12, 81:23 Name - 3:3, 3:22, 3:25, 4:4, 4:6, 4:7, 6:2, 7:23, 20:4, 77:3, 86:21 Nature - 109:10 MS - 20:9, 20:10 HS - 78:20, 78:21 Near - 98:21, 114:13, 117:23 Necessarily - 72:1 Neck - 91:5, 91:11, 92:12 Need - 46:21, 101:20, 105:24 Needed - 18:6, 51:12, 74:21, 85:22, 123:16 Needs - 40:14, 129:7, 129:11 Network - 73:8, 73:11, 74:10, 74:15 Newer - 18:2, 24:8, 68:6, 68:13, 74:3 Nice - 73:13 Night - 58:12, 69:5, 73:4, 78:18, 97:21, 110:23 Nine - 38:5 Nobile - 125:10 Nobody - 19:12, 44:8, 54:24, 93:12, 113:21 Nobody's - 47:1 Noel - 85:21, 86:18, 86:19, 86:22, 86:23, 89:1, 94:3, 94:22, 96:15, 98:14, 100:8, 117:22, 117:23 None - 80:5, 109:12 Nope - 77:21 Normal - 10:23, 10:24 Normally - 10:22 Notice - 100:23, 113:20 Notification - 44:1, 46:22, 47:13, 48:5, 48:6, 48:9, 48:14, 54:1, 56:18, 57:16 Notifications - 92:2 2, 126:5 Notified - 49:10, 49:18, 50:15, 50:19, 125:18 Notify - 46:13, 49:6, 49:9, 49:11, 49:17, 50:7, 64:17, 67:6, 125:22, 126:1 Notorious - 58:9 Number - 7:12, 7:15, 34:4, 34:5, 34:6, 34:10, 75:4 Numbers - 31:7 [Co Oath - 6:17 Obtain - 70:23 Obviously - 104:19 Off - 9:13, 28:15, 58:19, 64:15, 78:13, 85:10, 86:10, 91:4, 103:16, 103:17, 103:19, 103:22, 103:25, 104:2, 104:4, 131:25, 132:1 Officer - 8:11, 9:14, 36:6, 36:23, 55:14, 85:4, 85:16, 85:20, 85:21, 89:3, 94:3, 98:21, 113:13 Officers - 85:19, 85:20, 94:21, 96:10, 96:13, 96:14, 112:22 Officers’ - 34:13, 34:15, 34:19, 34:22, 117:23 Officer's - 31:3 Official - 3:11, 4:14 OIC - 99:11 OIG - 3:18, 4:14, 4:21 Older - 68:7, 68:13 Once - 17:1, 23:13, 97:22, 97:24, 98:6, 122:17 Ones - 27:20, 41:6, 42:24, 44:25, 45:1, 68:13, 115:4 Online - 124:9 Open - 71:22, 72:25, 88:9, 88:11, 88:12, 88:13, 97:2, 116:17, 116:19 Opening - 100:11, 100:12, 100:19, 100:20 Opposed - 81:22 Orange - 90:19, 90:20, 90:22, 90:23 Order - 25:5, 25:8, 26:6, 26:7, 96:8, 118:8, 118:16, 121:1, 121:12, 121:14, 124:12 Ordered - 18:22, 63:12, 124:8 Orders - 25:16, 25:18, 25:19, 121:3, 121:19 Organized - 63:16 OS - 34:19 Other - 18:14, 27:13, 27:17, 37:22, 49:13, 62:11, 66:24, 70:21, 79:25, 87:12, 97:12, 115:4, 124:23, 129:10, 129:14, 130:20, 130:22 Otherwise - 54:20 Our - 4:18, 24:14, 38:24, 66:15, 111:24, 118:7 Outbox - 82:2 Outer - 36:9 Outside - 32:16, 32:19, 32:23, 68:20, 74:8, 88:21, 88:24, 89:1, 89:3, 100:13 Overall - 11:21, 129:23 Overboard - 55:16 Overload - 67:17 Oversee - 30:23 Overtime - 18:13, 47:16, 47:21, 50:21, 50:25, 129:16 Own - 100:3, 110:10, 110:13, 112:3, 112:5, 116:4, 119:7 a PA - 86:1, 107:21 Papers - 114:2 Paperwork - 21:3, 118:4, 118:20, 118:22 Park - 3:16 Part - 3:11, 5:2, 46:21, 51:7, 60:1, 63:18, 68:5, 78:4, 78:11, 93:9, 101:21, 126:18 Partner - 40:2 Parts - 24:25, 51:6 Passed - 126:19 Password - 73:13 Passwords - 73:14 Past - 45:20, 64:12, 74:19 PBX - 78:10 People - 18:14, 38:19, 51:15, 53:21, 65:7, 77:16, 87:4, 87:19, 89:5, 100:7, 115:9, 126:19 Per - 30:7, 67:22 Perfect - 35:6 Performance - 5:6, 5:10 Performing - 90:5 Person - 47:2, 50:6, 59:13, 76:22 Pertains - 5:6 Phones - 13:23, 15:11, 78:2, 78:8, 80:1 Phonetic - 19:6, 20:3, 20:10, 21:1 EFTA00064180

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Photo - 51:19 Physical - 131:6 Physically - 23:2, 81:21, 108:23 Picked - 80:18 Picking - 87:18 Pieces - 70:11 Place - 6:16, 46:22, 100:24, 130:3 Planning - 47:23 Please - 3:21, 4:21, §:24, 6:1, 6:17, 6:23 Plus - 63:14 Point - 20:8, 23:20, 23:22, 24:5, 26:16, 28:22, 29:12, 31:14, 36:17, 63:24, 73:15, 120:8, 123:17 Pointed - 34:21, 37:7 Pointing - 30:19, 32:1, 32:7 Pop - 36:24 Popping - 65:12 Pops - 36:3 Population - 93:19 Port - 88:12, 115:5 Position - 10:17, 13:9, 13:19, 104:25, 105:1, 106:6, 107:7, 107:8, 107:10, 125:13 Positive - 48:10, 49:17, 126:4 Possibly - 25:5, 25:6, 41:12, 55:18, 78:17, 87:6 Potentially - 56:8 Power - 58:19, 59:8, 69:11 Practice - 47:3, 67:1 Present - 3:17, 8:23, 54:21 Preservation - 78:1 3 Preserving - 102:14 Pressure - 5:23 Previously - 24:20 Print - 6:2 Prior - 8:9, 23:16, 102:4, 107:25, 121:1, 124:5, 124:6 Priority - 18:25 Prison - 9:22 Prisons - 3:8, 8:21 Private - 11:15 Proactive - 128:20, 129:24 Proactivity - 130:14 Probable - 66:9 Problem - 14:2, 18:19, 22:3, 23:9, 24:6, 24:13, 27:1, 41:5, 41:8, 45:22, 53:11, 53:18, 60:1, 64:2, 121:11, 121:13, 124:8, 128:4, 130:12 Problems - 21:2, 23:11, 23:12, 64:1, 67:19, 68:6, 119:4, 121:4, 122:16 Proceedings - 5:18, 5:19 Process - 17:7, 24:18, 110:2 Project - 18:12, 18:15, 20:18, 21:8, 21:10, 44:9, 51:2, 63:15 Promises - 5:22 Property - 49:6, 60:7 Protected - 79:19 Provide - 4:17, 4:25, 5:1, 12:15, 79:8, 97:11 Provided - 82:9 Providing - 96:3 Pull - 43:11, 43:23 Pulling - 43:22 Pulse - 107:20, 107:23 Pumping - 93:5 Purchased - 23:17 Pursuant - 5:4 Putting - 43:12, 67:15 [a Question - 48:25, 73:25, 88:7, 108:6, 116:8, 122:21 Questioned - 54:9, 54:12 Questions - 4:18, 5:14, 5:16, 5:22, 6:22, 55:20, 66:8, 97:6 Quick - 121:16 Quite - 102:10 a | R&D - 80:15, 83:5 Radio - 15:9, 15:14, 48:18 Radios - 13:23, 13:24, 15:15 Raise - 6:17 Ran - 84:22 Random - 123:15 Re - 40:15, 41:21 React - 94:12 Readily - 122:17 Real - 33:15, 71:17, 120:2 Reason - 61:21, 67:24, 68:22, 76:15, 80:11, 81:20, 110:9, 117:2 Reasonably - 58:13 Reasons - 51:21 Rebuild - 45:22, 45:23 Rebuilding - 43:10, 43:11, 57:23 Receive - 11:19 Received - 70:16, 117:24 Receiving - 107:15 Recoding - 22:18, 71:2 Recognize - 28:25 Recollection - 30:8 Record - 3:22, 4:5, 27:5, 27:10, 27:12, 48:22, 72:2, 124:11 Recorder - 16:17, 17:22, 41:24, 42:23, 42:25, 59:12, 64:15, 67:21, 71:2, 75:10, 123:9, 123:10, 123:11, 123:14, 131:25, 132:1 Recordings - 61:12, 61:15, 67:4, 70:1, 70:2, 78:13 Records - 26:4, 72:11, 119:14 Recovered - 70:3, 70:18 Rectified - 66:9, 66:12, 129:7 Redo - 23:18 Redundancy - 26:1 8, 63:21 Redundant - 23:6, 27:3, 27:4, 67:21, 124:1 Referring - 96:13 Regard - 54:10, 55:2, 97:6, 97:12 Regarding - 7:2 Regards - 99:2 Region - 75:1 Regional - 21:4, 24:15, 121:12 Regular - 8:16, 55:14 Relation - 33:16 Relieve - 102:21, 102:23, 102:24 Remember - 17:2, 37:23, 47:9, 48:3, 51:7, 54:7, 54:16, 85:19, 85:22, 88:11, 103:9, 103:10, 103:14, 103:21, 104:1, 106:17 Remotely - 74:22 Repairman - 8:16 Repeat - 6:24 Rephrase - 6:24 Replace - 24:23 Replaced - 123:13, 123:16 Replacing - 57:22 Request - 57:13 Requested - 4:24 Required - 74:20 Responded - 101:2 5 Responding - 112:2 2 Responsible - 50:6 Retired - 77:7 Retrieve - 71:16, 71:21 Retrieved - 71:6 Returned - 19:24, 75:20 Reverse - 96:8 Review - 4:21, 5:25 Round - 24:25, 98:24 Rounds - 30:5, 63:10, 95:17, 95:18, 97:15, 97:17, 97:18, 97:20, 98:1, 98:11, 110:21, 110:22, 111:6, 113:16 Row - 3:16, 130:5 Rowdy - 93:20 Run - 23:11, 46:22 Running - 30:9, 39:2, 39:9 Runs - 23:12 Cs) Sally - 37:4, 37:5, 37:25, 65:25, 88:11, 115:5, 115:11, 115:19 Same - 24:9, 31:8, 45:21, 75:6, 75:8, 75:9, 77:1, 88:7, 95:5, 99:23, 123:4, 123:5, 123:7, 123:11, 131:11 Saturday - 13:6, 69:16, 69:18 Savvy - 131:15 Saw - 17:8, 33:3, 43:3, 43:7, 75:1, 85:7, 87:18, 92:10, 103:5, 106:7, 122:3, 122:12 Says - 6:1, 72:4 Scan - 81:23 Scene - 87:4, 117:4, 117:8 Schedule - 13:12 School - 12:20 Screen - 15:17, 39:10 Scrolling - 39:14 Scrounge - 23:15, 24:25 Se - 67:22 Seasons - 17:21 Seated - 107:6 Second - 23:10, 23:12, 27:11, 32:4, 34:6, 86:4, 92:20, 109:10 Secondary - 52:1 Seconds - 110:5 Sector - 11:16 Secure - 117:14 Secured - 61:4, 61:7, 61:9, 61:10, 116:17, 117:7, 117:11, 117:17, 117:18 Security - 5:7, 7:11, 8:11 Seeing - 17:3, 37:23, 41:8, 109:12 Seem - 110:4 Seemed - 110:4 Seen - 52:19 Sees - 36:23 Send - 46:21, 55:15 Senior - 3:18, 3:25, 6:10 Sense - 55:10, 57:18 Sent - 55:14, 70:2 Served - 8:20 Server - 16:22, 16:24 Service - 8:13, 51:4, 85:15 Services - 73:14, 73:20 Set - 14:12, 14:17 Settle - 94:19, 113:17 EFTA00064181

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Settled - 93:19 Seven - 37:16 Shame - 83:25 She'll - 26:1 She's - 112:11 Shift - 10:19, 14:24, 84:9, 84:14 Shipping - 124:14 Shirt - 90:20, 90:23, 103:6, 103:8, 103:16, 103:17, 103:24 Shock - 107:24 Short - 93:11 Shot - 92:23 Should - 14:13, 14:18, 14:23, 17:25, 24:18, 25:21, 26:4, 30:1, 31:8, 38:6, 50:18, 57:11, 112:11, 118:18, 128:12 Shouldn't - 18:2 Show - 22:25, 28:8, 30:4, 62:19, 118:23, 124:11 Shower - 79:3 Showing - 45:3, 115:8, 118:20 Shown - 30:3 Shut - 17:22 Shutting - 17:19, 17:23 SIA - 38:23 Side - 23:7, 23:8, 23:19, 24:9, 26:20, 27:2, 27:4, 27:6, 27:7, 27:23, 28:1, 28:4, 28:5, 34:8, 65:14, 65:15, 92:14 Sides - 92:13, 92:15 Sign - 6:1 Signal - 16:16, 16:17 Signature - 6:1, 6:8, 6:12 Signet - 24:4, 43:9, 118:8, 118:21, 121:18, 131:5 Signing - 6:7, 6:8, 6:11 Simple - 14:3, 17:18 Since - 8:22, 10:13, 10:14, 11:23, 14:7, 57:17, 67:1, 81:18, 93:11, 119:12, 122:16 Sit - 56:13 Sits - 39:13 Sitting - 97:21, 105:4 Situation - 55:3, 123:5 Situations - 74:19 Six - 24:20, 37:9, 121:7 Slips - 98:24 Slot - 45:10, 100:20 Smart - 131:10 Social - 7:11 Socks - 90:21 Software - 18:17, 23:1, 24:9, 53:15, 53:16, 67:18, 72:23, 120:21 Some - 7:19, 26:17, 26:23, 27:14, 27:17, 27:25, 28:3, 36:3, 39:20, 42:2, 44:23, 64:15, 90:12 Somebody's - 14:5 Someone - 35:21, 47:5, 50:7, 65:25, 74:10, 74:20, 87:12, 102:22, 105:14 Someone's - 114:13 Something's - 24:6, 43:7 Sometime - 66:25 Sometimes - 67:18, 83:22, 122:9 Somewhere - 25:22 , 50:3, 94:2 Soon - 23:10, 27:9, 27:11, 43:3, 59:16, 84:20, 89:20, 107:17, 120:2 Sorry - 77:25, 88:5, 116:3 Sound - 15:19 Sp - 19:6, 20:3, 20:10, 21:1 Space - 105:17, 105:25 Spaghetti - 62:5 Speaking - 83:6 Special - 3:1, 3:4, 3:18, 3:20, 3:23, 3:25, 6:7, 6:9, 6:10, 29:2, 93:14, 131:23 Specialized - 11:10 Specific - 8:5, 96:13 Specifically - 7:2, 11:19, 11:25, 26:7, 44:17, 50:24, 96:21 Specified - 65:5 Speed - 129:19, 129:20, 130:16 Spell - 3:22, 4:5, 77:6 Spend - 20:13 Spent - 121:10 Spoken - 55:1, 126:23 Staff - 73:21, 82:19, 82:21, 101:14, 105:24, 131:3 Staffed - 93:11 Stage - 43:22 Stair - 33:9 Stairs - 89:13 Standard - 14:12, 14:17, 14:20, 17:25, 56:25 Standing - 88:18, 100:13 Star - 31:24 Started - 9:13, 11:13, 18:12, 20:18, 21:2, 57:21, 63:14, 86:2, 90:3, 98:25, 104:18, 108:10, 116:24 Starter - 12:6 Starting - 6:15, 62:7 Starts - 43:14, 43:15, 43:16, 79:17 State - 4:4 Stated - 5:20, 18:18 Statement - 5:16, 5:21, 112:4, 112:6, 112:9, 112:12, 112:15, 113:4, 130:20 Statements - 94:22, 111:24, 112:2, 112:17 States - 4:22, 5:19, 8:15 Station - 31:4, 34:14, 34:15, 34:20, 34:22, 98:21, 113:14, 117:23 Stay - 46:20, 57:9, 57:14, 57:18, 107:24, 117:5 Stayed - 9:24, 57:11, 69:4, 101:14, 102:7, 102:10 + 20:2 Step - 25:3, 86:6 Steps - 21:6 Still - 19:24, 21:20, 25:19, 28:10, 81:17, 86:3, 93:4, 93:5, 94:4, 102:19, 113:8, 129:1, 129:2, 129:7 Stockpiled - 18:22 Stood - 92:6 Stop - 23:13, 63:19, 63:23, 74:2 Stopped - 27:21, 75:16, 98:11 Stops - 67:20 Stored - 61:15 Street - 7:6 Stress - 122:11 Stressed - 94:9 Stretcher - 85:23, 85:25, 87:20, 87:24, 90:3, 90:4, 91:21, 104:13, 104:18, 106:3, 107:18, 109:6, 109:11 String - 28:2 Subject - 119:22 Submit - 24:14 Submitted - 21:3 Such - 50:7, 126:17, 126:18 Suicide - 94:10, 117:4 Supervisor - 44:4, 44:6, 46:24, 48:7, 48:8, 49:11, 49:17, 50:1, 50:4, 50:16, 50:17, 50:18, 53:23, §3:24, 54:1, 56:18, 58:7, 79:13, 124:25 Supervisors - 127:2 Supply - 59:8 Support - 24:12 Supposed - 27:2, 36:9, 46:12, 49:2 Surround - 7:4 Surrounding - 4:16, 58:15 Suspicion - 58:14 Swear - 6:18 Switch - 78:10 Switched - 123:8 Sync - 43:14 Systems - 20:15 Take - 14:4, 16:16, 23:14, 24:19, 27:8, 43:17, 43:23, 63:20, 72:14, 77:25, 99:25, 103:15, 103:16, 110:10, 114:2, 122:7, 123:1, 131:7 Taken - 5:15, 57:22, 61:22, 91:23, 123:20, 123:25 Takes - 15:23, 15:25, 17:22, 43:19 Taking - 79:2, 100:23, 103:21, 104:2, 131:17 Talk - 54:4, 54:14, 58:4, 70:7, 78:2, 94:13, 113:17 Talked - 18:10, 20:5, 41:15 Talking - 12:7, 31:20, 32:25, 41:1, 44:16, 55:19, 61:3, 80:14, 83:13, 114:9, 124:4, 130:20 Tamper - 51:18, 69:13 Tampered - 58:24, 59:18, 62:9, 76:24 Tampering - 51:15, 58:18 Tangible - 71:17, 89:25 + 20:10 + 52:8, 77:3, 77:4, 77:5 TDY - 101:14 Tech - 20:25, 24:12, 26:2, 26:3, 52:8, 52:9, 76:10, 77:2 Technical - 55:15 Technician - 4:9, 9:17, 9:23, 10:4, 10:18, 11:5, 13:11 Telephone - 12:19 Telephones - 13:23 Tell - 6:18, 40:3, 47:5, 49:13, 62:18, 65:5, 91:7, 108:22, 115:25, 121:12, 127:10 Telling - 53:17, 55:12 Tells - 107:23 Ten - 17:14, 17:16, 18:1, 21:25, 22:11, 35:8, 40:9, 41:16, 41:17, 41:21 Terms - 55:23, 71:7 Terre - 9:16, 9:19 Than - 17:13, 49:13, 51:5, 62:12, 79:25, 87:12 Thank - 12:25, 131:16, 131:21 Their - 36:7, 39:10, 59:24, 60:6, 76:18, 83:13, 110:20, 111:1, 111:3, 111:6, 119:7 Themselves - 3:21, 59:20 These - 3:6, 4:2, 25:18, 25:19, 31:6, 37:21, 55:19, 119:2, EFTA00064182

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121:17, 126:17 They'll - 14:3 They've - 67:11, 70:21 Things - 18:4, 63:16, 71:20, 95:11, 111:21, 119:2, 122:15, 130:8 Thinking - 46:6, 63:11 Third - 23:4, 65:25 Thirty - 18:1 - 85:21, 86:24, 87:1, 87:2, 87:18, 88:19, 88:20, 94:22, 96:15, 98:17 Though - 18:24, 38:9, 44:12, 64:13, 87:24, 91:12, 112:9, 112:21, 115:8, 126:16 Thought - 51:25, 83:17, 99:21, 129:18 Thoughts - 129:18 Threats - 5:22 Three - 98:15 Through - 24:17, 24:24, 25:9, 27:6, 39:12, 39:14, 39:25, 43:15, 105:12 Throughout - 82:23 Throw - 46:15, 64:15, 83:23 Throwing - 65:9 Thursday - 3:2, 131:24 Tiers - 68:7 Times - 17:20, 39:10, 45:16 Title - 4:8, 124:25 Today - 3:2, 3:13, 24:13 Told - 44:3, 49:19, 74:12, 127:17 Tomorrow - 56:24, 128:8 Ton - 45:8 Took - 19:14, 19:17, 70:25, 71:1, 71:3, 85:24, 86:3, 92:1, 92:16, 93:5, 103:18, 110:4, 110:5, 110:13, 116:4, 117:15 Tools - 12:6 Top - 31:11, 32:11, 33:18, 35:5, 89:15, 128:22 Topic - 84:4 Total - 38:6 Totally - 41:4, 105:18 Touch - 64:7 Tough - 90:17 Tova - 86:22, 86:23, 94:22 Toward - 31:14 Towards - 23:22, 42:17, 65:17, 65:23 Traffic - 15:14 Train - 131:3 Training - 9:7, 11:10, 11:18, 12:11, 12:15, 12:21, 131:1, 131:6, 131:18 Transfers - 15:25 Transpired - 101:21 » 111:25 Transportation - 8: 11 Tried - 72:18, 90:2, 93:2, 120:1 Troubleshoot - 12:4 , 24:17 Troubleshooting - 118:15 Troubleshot - 45:20 Truth - 6:18, 6:19 Try - 6:24, 56:14, 59:12, 70:2, 72:25, 73:3, 80:8, 94:18, 97:2, 104:15, 105:20, 109:21, 113:16 Trying - 15:6, 21:12, 21:13, 46:15, 55:22, 59:13, 63:15, 69:5, 90:8, 91:3, 104:12, 105:11, 107:9, 108:24, 108:25, 113:23, 121:9, 121:10, 128:7 TSA - 8:10, 8:25 Tt's - 122:14 Turn - 15:14, 88:5 Turned - 58:18 Turning - 131:24, 132:1 TV -61:9 Type - 107:6 a Umm - 40:15 Unable - 71:6 Under - 6:8, 6:16, 46:15 Understand - 5:20, 5:25, 6:3, 6:4, 6:22, 39:21 Unit - 29:3, 85:20, 93:14, 111:15, 130:1 United - 8:15 Unplug - 63:20 Until - 19:1, 46:20, 72:10, 86:4, 92:20, 102:8, 109:24 Updated - 28:12, 28:14 Upgrade - 18:16, 21:6, 21:14, 63:19 Upgraded - 18:6, §1:12, 66:15, 121:9 Upgrades - 20:12 Upgrading - 21:11, 21:15 Upper - 18:10, 19:19, 19:21, 29:6, 29:9, 29:10, 29:12, 32:13, 32:15, 32:16, 32:17 Upright - 106:6, 107:6 Upset - 96:23 Upstairs - 23:3, 60:11, 85:18, 86:1, 86:17, 93:3, 117:18 Us - 82:1, 85:22 Use - 12:6, 16:15, 31:5, 71:12, 72:23 Used - 5:17, 5:24, 16:15, 52:7 Usually - 14:2, 15:8, 15:9, 24:5, 24:17, 39:12, 43:4, 60:17, 68:12, 73:13, 76:12, 89:2, 99:10, 105:20, 109:9, 109:10, 117:5, 125:21 (ov) Vendor - 55:8, 70:7 Verbally - 48:15 Very - 42:12, 51:13, 64:22, 87:4 Via - 81:22 View - 77:14 Viewed - 77:13 Viewing - 31:17 Vision - 73:13 Visiting - 19:16 Voice - 14:3 Voluntarily - 4:17 Voluntary - 4:19, 4:25, 5:12 Wait - 17:21, 19:1, 45:25, 109:15 Waiver - 5:19 Walk - 24:24, 76:20, 88:8, 88:14, 89:12, 105:12, 108:11, 122:22, 126:1 Walkaround - 66:14 Walked - 90:6, 91:18, 92:6, 108:9 Want - 7:1, 48:20, 49:24, 70:6, 82:16, 109:12, 109:19, 119:24, 124:24 Wanted - 20:11, 28:15, 63:12, 117:25, 120:3 Warden - 19:24, 20:2, 20:7, 49:3, 50:9, 54:14, 55:2, 62:15, 73:18, 78:15, 78:20, 79:13 Wardens - 20:6 Warehouse - 18:21 Warning - 83:15 Warnings - 4:24, §:20 Watch - 11:2, 13:15, 13:17 Wearing - 90:15 Week - 119:13, 122:14, 122:17 Well - 12:4, 13:20, 16:14, 16:15, 20:13, 22:17, 26:2, 27:25, 36:5, 36:8, 40:1, 47:1, 55:2, 70:4, 76:1, 80:8, 114:8 We'll - 16:2, 96:7 We're - 31:20, 46:21, 51:5, 67:15, 119:17, 129:20, 129:21, 130:17 Weren't’ - 56:10 West - 7:6 We've - 67:13, 67:14, 67:19, 68:11, 124:24 Whatever - 30:6, 31:24, 58:16, 91:2, 104:14, 105:1, 107:8, 107:13, 119:15 What's - 7:8, 10:16, 10:22, 13:19, 14:14, 14:15, 21:6, 31:2, 40:24, 44:19, 56:14, 64:19, 78:12, 93:21, 109:18, 111:8, 118:17, 127:24, 128:5 Whenever - 66:13, 70:14 Whereas - 55:25 Where's - 38:2 Which - 22:10, 23:4, 24:22, 27:20, 29:17, 42:24, 44:25, 48:8, 68:16, 89:15, 89:18, 108:18, 130:4 While - 80:24, 85:25, 102:10, 102:12 Whirlwind - 103:3 Whoever - 38:18, 50:4, 73:12, 125:18 Whoever's - 25:11, 30:5, 82:10, 85:4 Whole - 9:12, 17:6, 17:22, 17:23, 18:11, 23:18, 24:7, 24:18, 28:1, 43:19, 56:5, 70:4, 71:2, 72:8, 72:11, 76:6, 99:17, 123:12 Who's - 66:2, 66:18 Why - 18:13, 21:7, 50:24, 51:6, 55:22, 58:6, 63:7, 64:16, 65:6, 71:12, 72:4, 109:7, 127:10, 127:25 Will - 3:19, 4:18, 5:15, 6:12, 23:16, 34:4, 34:10, 34:16, 36:24, 62:18 Willing - 5:21 Wired - 28:6, 28:7 Wise - 14:1 Wish - 128:19, 129:23, 130:13, 130:23 Within - 60:22 Without - 4:10, 4:12, 36:9, 120:21 Witness - 6:12 Won't - 36:8, 72:22 Word - 71:12 Worked - 8:10, 24:8, 36:2, 63:21, 93:14 Works - 70:6, 70:8, 89:2, 128:19 Worry - 46:25, 56:23 Wouldn't - 99:8, 113:3 Wrapped - 90:12, 91:3, 91:7 Write - 6:12, 33:24, 35:2, 35:5, 98:25, 111:24, 112:2, 112:6, 112:9, 112:12, EFTA00064183

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112:15, 112:16 Writing - 5:7 Written - 14:23, 112:21, 113:4 Wrong - 43:7 Wrote - 33:6, 112:3, 112:5 Year - 7:22, 9:24, 10:5, 12:11, 12:14, 66:19, 66:23, 121:6 Years - 8:14, 10:8, 11:14, 11:16, 15:5, 17:14, 17:16, 17:17, 22:10, 126:14 Yep - 32:8 Yet - 106:12, 124:17, 125:13 York - 3:6, 6:14, 7:7, 8:3, 9:25, 10:3, 130:7 You'd - 61:24 You'll - 62:9, 66:18, 72:21 Yourself - 14:17, 98:15, 100:17, 103:10 You've - 10:12, 14:21, 20:13, 56:20, 57:8, 62:20, 68:24, 93:22 a Zero - 71:14 a 00:13:22 - 19:6 00:13:53 - 20:3 00:14:04 - 20:11 00:14:25 - 21:1 00:18:28 - 26:14 00:19:47 - 28:16 00:21:53 - 32:4 00:21:55 - 32:5, 32:7 00:35:34 - 51:20 00:50:08 - 73:23 00:52:52 - 77:22 01:12:00 - 106:10 01:24:08 - 125:9 a «713 a 1:00 - 46:7, 50:15 10,000 - 121:14 10:00 - 75:24 100 - 27:7 10032 - 7:7 10th - 7:3, 19:12, 24:3, 31:20, 35:1, 39:23, 47:18, 69:9, 69:11, 72:14, 75:6, 75:20, 75:25, 81:12, 84:16, 84:19, 119:20, 119:21, 124:20 11th - 124:20 12-17:17 15 - 3:2, 3:13, 6:13, 11:13, 11:16, 131:24 150 - 3:16, 40:4, 40:7 166th - 7:6 1978 - 5:5 1982 -7:10 a 2:00 - 10:25, 11:1, 13:13, 13:14, 13:16, 46:5, 50:15, 76:1, 84:9, 84:10, 84:11 2:15 - 3:3 2:16 - 3:14 2:19 - 6:13 200 - 40:3 2000 - 8:15 2004 - 8:15 2013 - 8:22, 8:24, 9:4, 9:14 2014 - 9:10 2015 - 9:15, 11:7, 11:8 2016 - 10:8 2017 - 9:15, 10:8 2019 - 13:3 2020 - 67:1 2021 - 3:3, 3:13, 6:13, 131:24 23rd - 77:23, 77:24 24 - 8:22, 8:24, 9:4, 17:16, 23:17, 62:24 25 - 7:10 27 - 36:12, 36:13 2846 - 8:16 a 3:00 - 84:12 3:44 - 131:23 3-26226-2 - 4:22 365 - 17:16 ee | 46 - 33:4, 35:3, 35:11, 68:18, 69:7 465 - 7:6 4A-7:9 Cs) 50 - 27:6, 27:25, 28:1, 45:6, 56:8 51 - 27:6 a 6:00 - 10:24, 11:1, 13:13, 13:14, 13:16, 14:8, 47:20, 75:24, 84:15, 101:5 6:33 - 101:9 60 - 45:6 -7:16 7:00 - 102:2, 102:3, 102:4, 111:16 75 - 56:8 8:00 - 102:8 EFTA00064184