DIGITALLY RECORDED SWORN STATEMENT OF OIG CASE #: 2019-010614 DEPARTMENT OF JUSTIC ie) OFFICE OF THE INS AUGUST 4, 2021 ERVICES te 285 EFTA00061061

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Nh N WwW wo Nh WwW wo Ww The recorder is the on. My Department of the General, New and are my with Federal Bureau of Prisons employee PY mz is being interview conducted as part of an Department of Justice, General inves tigation. , and interview is being conducted at Metropolitan Correctional Center, ted in New York, him ent is pr Do you want to show our credentials? MR. a: Thank you. oO I am Wo EFTA00061063

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wo wo No oO N ins) ine] r Ww N Nh ine] uw MR. a : And you, sir? MR. a : I am Correctional Counselor PG CLMGCON Correctional Counselor? MR. es : And what did you say that, what level was that? Nine? sir. This is an official DOJ/OIG investigation into the death of inmate Jeffrey Epstein, and the surrounding circumstances, and you are being asked to voluntarily provide answers to our questions. Will you agree to a voluntary interview with the DOJ/OIG? MR. QJ: ve if) Thank you, sir. We have a form, it DOJ/OIG form 3-226/2. It’ n the United States Department of Justice, Office of the Inspector General, Warnings and sted to Provide e Requ mploy i oO o Ssurances to Information on a Voluntary B being asked to provide information as part of an investigation being conducted by the Office of the Inspector General. This investigation Thank you, EFTA00061064

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10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 is being conducted, pursuant to the Inspector General Act of 1978, as amended. This investigation pertains to job performance failure and security failure. This is a voluntary interview. Accordingly, you do not have to answer questions. No disciplinary action will be taken against you if you choose not to answer questions. Any statement you furnish may be used as evidence in any future criminal proceedings or agency disciplinary proceedings, or both.” And there’s a waiver section. It says, “I understand the Warnings and Assurances stated above, and I am willing to make a statement and answer questions. No promises or threats have been made to me, and no pressure or coercion of any kind has been used against me.” If you want to take a second to look at that, if you agree with it, you can, there’s an employee signature where you would sign, and then you would print your name under here, where it says employee’s name. Thank you, sir, for signing. Do you understand the form? MR. a: Yes. EFTA00061065

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Nh No N S) N WwW wo Nh WwW wo Ww ct MR. a : Thank you. All righ time, Wednesday, MR. ae : Fourth. now. fs) re} N n fw 3 Plac M 0) C, New York. I am signing as the top line. Once again, this is ma a. and printing below. Special Agent a. can you just sign as a witness and then put your name below? Thank MR. ae: This is Agent a. I’m signing as a witness and printing my name. o Hh Oo K oO All right. we 1 D I would like to place you under oath. Mr. a. can you please raise your right hand? Do you swear to tell the truth and nothing interv MR. a: Thank you, sir. What is MR. a : Thank you. And your EFTA00061066

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N es) lo t Wansor Avenue, Bayv Ww v) K is) ia] aa b = oO wo 4 MR. a : And your curre 5 cellphone number? 7 MR. ae : And what is your current 8 position again? 9 MR. a : rrectional unselor. 0 MR. a : And how long have you 9 3 were you Great. 0 inf it] ke Oo Q 7 previously interviewed under this 8 investigation? MR. a : Yes. 20 MR. a: 21 just going to review the report that was wo All right. 22 generated, based upon your interview. I’m of, a little slower throu you can actually grasp and what it is that they wrote. EFTA00061067

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N WwW wo No WwW wo N b No Nh nN WwW 24 want to make sure that e wrote is accurate. MR. QJ: «uh-huh. . a : And just stop me if ae Also present for the interview was 9ecial Agent of birth, “was interviewed at Attorn Office, 1 St. Andrew Plaza, New York, rk. After being advised of the nature interview, and the oo EFTA00061068

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S) Nh No N S) N WwW wo Nh WwW wo Ww MR. a : “Prior to employment with the BOP, | worked for the Building and Maintenance Union, the Marine Corps Reserve, and the New York Police Depar Officer and was ” promoted to Lieutenant in -ober 2015. MR. a : “He spent one Federal Correctional Institt ty e) K rt ob h > . rh when he first joined the BOP and had remainder of his tenure at the Metropolitan Correctional Center.” MR. J: «ho is supervisor now? *00:06:15) He’s my Unit EFTA00061069

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ow oO o wo o No Oo wo ine) 10 largely on which area of the prison he or she was assigned to, which rotated on a quarterly basis.” MR. QJ: yes. MR. a : “Those duties include operations, activities, solitary housing, special investigations, and administration, as well as possible collateral duties, such as ” emergency protection. MR. a : Emergency preparedness. Same thing. MR. ae : Okay. Preparedness? MR. a : It would be the EPO is what the title was. MR. a : Sure. I understand. » stated he was assigned as the Activities Lieutenant at the time of the interview, and worked the regular 2 p.m. to 10 ,¢ ” p.m. shift. MR. BMJ: Ss ves. MR. a : And then on the daily schedule, it actually listed 4 to 12, correct? You just came in two hours early? MR. a : Well, what lieutenants were doing, we always did two hour reliefs for each EFTA00061070

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ow oO ~—] wo 10 12 13 14 other. MR. Ee : Okay. But if I was to actually look at that daily schedule -- MR. a : I believe it would show 4 to 12, or actually, if it was activities, Activities Lieutenants at that time were 6 to 2 and 2 to 10. Operations Lieutenants were on the 8 to 4, 4 to 12, 12 to 8 rotation. MR. ae : Okay. I see what you’re saying. So, there’s no actual two hour change, when you’re looking at an Activities Lieutenant? MR. a : Yeah, no. MR. Ee : It is what the actual daily assigned roster said? MR. a : It is what the time, yeah. I forgot what the, it’s been a while. I forgot the shift number. MR. a : Absolutely. But, so, the Activities and the Ops Lieutenant were working the same hours? MR. a : They will, they piggyback, but let’s say, like, the 2 p.m. Activities Lieutenant, I would be here on the, still under the Day Watch Lieutenant, and then the Evening 11 EFTA00061071

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wo oy uw ~] 20 N k N in] N oy Nh Nh uw Watc goin Acti p.m. was hour I’m Augu Lieu hour h Lieutenant would roll in, if they’re g by 8 to 4. Cause I, as an Evening Watch vities Lieutenant, I worked 2 p.m. to 10 But if, like, if the Day Watch Lieutenant still there 8 to 4, I would be working two s with him or h i) MR. ae : Yeah, so, I guess what asking is, I thought at this time, in st of 2019, they were allowing the tenants to come in two -- MR. a : We were. We were doing two reliefs for each other. MR. a : So, you were actually both time MR. a : Great. So, Ops and Activities were 2 to 10 at the Fs) K @ if) MR. NM: perfect. MR. a : Well, I think that’s what I assigned to. I can’t recall 100%. MR. a : Sure. And these are -- EFTA00061072

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ow oO ~—] wo 10 12 13 14 right now, When I got interviewed. Sure. So, I’m going to give you, the daily assignment rosters for both Friday, August 9, 2019, and Saturday, August 10, 2019. vn. a: helps you refresh your memory, Uh-huh. It’s just so that, if it cause we’re talking about so long ago. All » stated he was assigned as the Activities Lieutenant at the time of the right. interview and worked the regular 2 p.m. to 10 p-m. shift. His regular days off were Mondays and Tuesdays. He would, on occasion, work overtime hours or switch shifts with other officers.” read that again? Wait, I’m sorry. Can you I apologize. Absolutely. Okay. So, after the 2 p.m. to 10 p.m. shift, which we just discussed. MR. QJ: 9 uh-huh days off were Mondays and Tuesdays “His regular He would, on occasion, work overtime hours or switch 13 EFTA00061073

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wo wo shif ts with other officers.” 07] = ~ 5 o We’ re not officer lieutenants. (Indiscernible *00: other lieutenants, times, That’s 09:11). probably what they Okay. So, switched to be able to fill in Lieutenant, is wha Yeah. Or, a lot of the we got mandated to stay. Right. But only lieutenants could actually fill those positions, lieutenant, is what you’re s ying? Yeah. only a lieutenant can fill an Only, well, a Operations Lieutenant. MR. a : Correct. cover as an You could have a G&§ Activities Lieute Okay. Cause, like, that Friday the night before, I was Operations and dan 8 as my Activities Lieutenant. I had 14 EFTA00061074

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ow oO wo co No Oo wo ine) No an officer acting as Activities. MR. a : Okay. So, then, people could switch, that were officers? MR. a : No. Only, a lieutenant st. A B- can’t switch with an officer to fill a po if They can backfill, if there’s, a lieutenant calls in sick. If a lieutenant is not there. MR. a : Okay. So you can’t -- MR. a : They can use a GS -- MR. a : -- you can’t ask an 8, say, hey, can you switch with me? It’s only if MR. a : No. Like, as an Activities Lieutenant, I would have to call in sick to the Captain. If I wanted a shift off, I could switch with another officer. I can’t necessarily switch with an 8 officer. MR. a : Okay. And looking at this daily assignment roster, I’m assuming you ra’ noticed that you were actually Ops Lieutenant? MR. a : Yes. I was Evening Watch Operations the night before. MR. a : On August 9*°? And then | was actually an 8, Acting Lieutenant? MR. a : Yeah, she was a GS-8 EFTA00061075

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10 11 12 13 14 16 17 18 19 officer. MR. a : She was my Activities that MR. a : I got you. All right. “As there were no Activity Lieutenants assigned during the overnight hours, he had no relief officers.” I don’t know why they would have wrote that sentence in there. So, I’m going to read this paragraph again, just to help clarify this. yl stated he was assigned as the Activities Lieutenant at the time of the interview and worked the regular 2 p.m. to 10 p.m. shift.” Again, on Friday, August 9, you were actually the Ops Lieutenant and | was the Activities Lieutenant. It says, “His regular days off were Mondays and Tuesdays. He would, on occasion, work overtime hours or switch shifts with other lieutenants.” And in this case, again, you explained -- MR. QJ: 9 uh-huh. MR. Ee : -- that you can’t actually switch with lieutenants, only if you get bumped and that position is filled, can an 16 EFTA00061076

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No 10 11 12 13 14 16 17 18 19 17 8 officer -- MR. a : Yes. MR. a : And then it says, “As there were no Activity Lieutenants assigned during the overnight hours, he had no relief officers.” You weren’t doing overnight? MR. a : No. I got relieved and went home that evening. MR. ae : I’m not exactly, were you doing overtime shifts for the morning watch? Is that why they would have wrote that? MR. a: It could possibly be. I mean, we worked overtime shifts constantly. At one point in time, we were short-staffed lieutenants like you wouldn’t believe. We were filling this building with five or six lieutenants, we were running the whole building. That’s one of the reasons why I became a counselor. I was never home. MR. QJ: Okay. So that isa little confusing. What it’s trying to say, though, is that if you’re the Ops Lieutenant, on the morning watch, there is no Activities Lieutenant? MR. a : No. Yeah, that, no. EFTA00061077

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10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 18 There’s only an Activities Lieutenant until 10 p.m. MR. a : Right. yo stated the responsibilities of an Activities Lieutenant include making rounds and placing inmates in Special Housing. During rounds, they ensure officers are properly carrying out their job responsibilities and give the inmates the opportunity to address with them any concerns. | stated he often attempted to walk all the tiers, based on time.” So, on this, we have heard different things from different people. As an Ops Lieutenant, or an Activities Lieutenant, are you required to go into the SHU, and I’m talking specifically at this time, so August 9th, August 10t of 2019. Was a lieutenant, or a SHU lieutenant, was a lieutenant responsible to go to the SHU and walk the tiers and do a round with the inmates? MR. a : With the inmates? MR. a : Yeah. So -- MR. a : Well, a lieutenant is supposed to, is mandatory, supposed to make rounds. EFTA00061078

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10 11 12 13 14 16 17 18 19 MR. a : So what is the definition of a lieutenant round? MR. a : A lieutenant round? Well, in the Special Housing or general pop? MR. a : Let’s talk just Special Housing. MR. a : Okay. Special Housing, one, the lieutenant walks through the 27 door, that’s the outer door of the SHU. Sign in, in the log book. Go in, go, sit down on the computer, login, do the True Scope rounds. Got to enter your rounds in SHU. Go up to 10 South. Make the rounds up there. Same thing. Enter the information in True Scope. MR. a : So, when you go into 9 South, though, and you’re entering in that you conducted a round, what does the round entail? MR. a : Well, making sure that the officers are doing their job. And like I said, if time permits, if you can, you know, do it, go down the range. Go one range, two ranges, three ranges. MR. Ee : And that’s where, so, this is where we have gotten, some people are saying they had to do, in order to conduct an 19 EFTA00061079

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wo wo No oO N ins) ine] r Ww N Nh ine] uw actual round, you have to actually walk the tiers. Do you know that to be the case? MR. a : Well, yeah. Cause the officer has to let you down range. MR. a : The officer has the grill key. Nobody could just go down range in SHU. MR. a : So, the officer would ! nge and then at the end of MR. a : And I think I understand ‘re saying sometimes, there just wasn’t time to do it -- MR. QJ: 9 uh-huh. constitute a round, actually walking down the n that actually range for a lieutenant? MR. QJ: 9 Well, not so much, the officers are supposed to be making the 30 minute rounds. make sure that that that, he or she has to go EFTA00061080

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ow oO wo co No Oo wo ine) No in that unit and make sure that the officers are doing their rounds. Check the rounds sheets or the log book, log into True Scope, and, you know, make, basically, is that lieutenant is confirming that staff are doing MR. a : So, the lieutenant didn’t actually have to walk the tiers? vR. GR: No. MR. QJ: No. MR. ae : And the ranges? All right. So, that was your understanding? So when you’re assigning the actual round that you conducted, it’s to say that you basically dida round with your officers, to ensure they were doing their job? MR. a : Their job, and you go into the 10 South and do the same. MR. QJ: Okay. But not that you’re actually conducting a round? MR. QJ: 9 suh-uh. MR. a : Like, as far as conducting a round with inmates? MR. a : No. No, that’s, the whole EFTA00061081

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ow oO wo wo purpose behind the 30 minute log book. MR. QM: Right. MR. a : The 30 minute round sheets. MR. Ee : Okay. yo stated on , the prison takes a count at 4 p.m. The Activities and Operations Lieutenant take a verbal count by speaking with each unit and match that number with the count slip from Internal. If correct, they clear the institution count. They cannot clear a count until they receive a good verbal count from every unit. He was not aware of any instances in which the count was cleared without speaking ” with every unit. MR. GR: No. MR. Ee : So that’s correct, though? MR. a : Yeah. Yeah. MR. a : yo stated he would attempt to watch the camera monitors as the corrections officers performed the count to ensure officers were properly counting. He could not monitor at all times, due to the amount of activity in the Control Room.” MR. a : Well, it depends. During EFTA00061082

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10 11 12 13 14 16 17 18 19 the count, my job is mainly taking the count. MR. QJ: Right. MR. a : You know, I could look up at the cameras, you know, but you have a lot of movement going around in Control. MR. a : Sure. MR. a : You know, throwing keys. If, let’s, and there’s been many times where we were so short-staffed, we had one officer in Control. MR. QM: uh-huh. MR. a: So, while I’m taking the count, I’m also doing C&A. I’m helping him throw keys. You know, but as far as clearing the count, yes. You cannot clear the count until you get a verbal, verbal, good verbal count from the Unit Officer, cause we have the PP1l, the El, in front of us with the actual accurate count, as per Sentry. So we have to compare those numbers. You write it down. We compare it. So, you cross it off on the Sentry paperwork, okay, 7, I’1l call in a good count. MR. Ee : But, as far as, like, the 4 p.m. count, the Activities or Ops Lieutenant has to actually be present in Control to do 23 EFTA00061083

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S) N Nh Nh S) N WwW wo WwW wo Ww MR. a : And about how many people are present in Control when that count is being conducted? MR. a : If we’re fully staffed, lieutenant in the Control Room Officer, the C&A O it would be the 0] lieutenant, Activities or MR. QJ: what does Cé&a have a total brain (Indiscernible *00:17:03). truth be Number 1, Control Number 2 -- Control Number 2 is C&A. i school, it EFTA00061084

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wo wo wi MR. a : I know it’s Counts and Accountability, I think is what the acronym that’s the person who actually, like, receives the counts from people? MR. a : C&A is the one that does all the Sentry work for all the movement, you know, to make sure is accurate, the counts, or the unit base counts and unit counts are accurate. MR. a : That’s Control Number 2? MR. a: Yeah. MR. a : So, in this case, if ‘re looking at August, Friday, August 39, you 2019, would that Control Officer Number 2, can you tell me who that would have been? MR. ae: | | || (Phonetic *00:17:49) for the 6 to 2 shift, and *00:17:51) for the 2 to EFTA00061085

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wo wo count, that would not have been ma: MR. a : Well, | | would have been in Control, cause he would have been the Control 1 Officer. MR. ae : Oh, I thought it was Control 2 for him. is Control 1 1trol, no, Control 1, ia | is Control 2. MR. a : Oh, okay. So, okay. So, what would Control 1’s typical res ibilities have been? MR. a : At 4:00, the same thing. At 4:00, people are leaving, so that person would be over at the window, throwing keys. We call expression. He would be taking the radios, OC and stuff like that from the departing staff, pu it back on the board, giving them their chi and receiving chits for equipment for the oncoming staff. MR. a : Okay. So, in this case, N nn EFTA00061086

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ow oO o wo uw fon) o No Oo wo ine) it should have been, at least at 4 p.m., the person that would be signing the documents and taking the count should have been this | and not ma: MR. a : With the lieutenant. MR. a : With the lieutenant. we'll Okay. And after we’re done with t! just go over some of the counts, just to -- MR. Ee : But we’1ll move on, just to make sure we can keep moving on this. I’m us oing to read it over to, I can’t remember u. rt .Q exactly where I left off. MR. a: Fourth paragraph. MR. a : Third paragraph? MR. a: Fourth. PI stated he was normally relieved (Indiscernible *00:19:24) before 10 p.m. MR. a : I’m just going to read this last paragraph over. “QJ stated he would attempt to watch the camera monitors as the corrections officers performed the count to ensure officers were properly counting. He could not monitor at all times, due to the ” amount of activity in the Control Room. EFTA00061087

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wo wo N ins) ine) No c= WwW i) °o Nh ine] 4 i if) Again, you said that you might glance up, but you’re not actually, like -- MR. a : Yeah. Yeah, I wasn’t MR. a : Sure. Absolutely. MR. a : You know? I would be answering the phones, writing down the actual count -- MR. a : Totally. MR. a : -- you know, the crossing off, and, you know, making the, especially if I had seen that, like, if a count was being delayed, I would be, like, what’s the problem? And I would look. You know. MR. a : I got you. So, you’re making sure they’re doing It’s not, I’m not glued to the camera. MR. QJ: | -- cause you have your own job to be doing, is what you’re saying? MR. J: 9 Yeah. MR. a : Okay. ‘ i stated he would normally relieve, be relieved before 10 p.m., prior to evening count. He had heard of EFTA00061088

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ow oO wo uw fon) wo No oO ine) an instance where the count was not properly completed, but he had, but it had been some 103) time in the past.” So, if you’re that 2 to 10 shift, do you do the 4, the relieving shift would typically do the 10 p.m., is what you’re saying? MR. a : Yes. MR. a : Okay. Do you ever do the MR. QJ: on ni in for the overnight. MR. ae : But, I mean, as the 2 to 10 shift, do you ever do the 10 p.m.? MR. a : I probably have, but I can’t even recall when the last time I was. MR. a: Yeah, yeah. It’s typically that relieving officer’s duty, isi a ct if] that I was coming MR. a : Yeah. The relieving lieutenant. MR. a : Lieutenant, right. MR. J: 9 Yeah. MR. a : And then it says, “He had heard of an instance where the count was not properly completed, but it had been some time EFTA00061089

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wo wo ies) =] in the past.” Any information on that? MR. a : No. I mean, it was probably, I remember when I said that. It was, you always hear of the horror stories, and when you come home, come in off your days off, you would be, like, oh, you know, what happened the other day? Or this, that, and the third. You MR. QJ: | that kind of thing. MR. a : But I have never heard it where it has been detrimental MR. a: Okay. But it wasn’t talking specifically about, like, August 9° (Indiscernible *00:21:12). MR. QJ: = No, no. I’m talking, like, ten years. I wasn’t even a lieutenant at the MR. a : You know, I was still an lieutenant, he worked to enforce policy through verbal counseling and by example. Taking the EFTA00061090

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ow oO ~—] wo 10 12 13 14 count is one of the most important duties ” corrections,” I keep on saying corrections, but I know it’s correctional officers “perform as professionals.” MR. a : Right. It’s accountability. Inmate accountability is the most important thing here. Maintain security. MR. QJ: Okay. MR. a : You got to make sure that they’re all here at the end of the day. MR. ee : So, are you saying, like, basically, counts and rounds are the most important things that a correctional officer does? MR. a : Count, I mean, everything, controlling contraband, shaking down. Nowadays, with the K2, it’s ridiculous. MR. QM: Right. MR. a : You know, there’s a lot on an officer’s shoulders. MR. QJ: Right. MR. a : But of course, you know, we only do the counts at certain periods throughout the day. You know? The officers making rounds are what helps reduce the fact of EFTA00061091

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wo wo Ww No them doing the K2 or, you know, making weapons or tattooing or things of that nature. MR. a : You know, making rounds, being visible. That if) like, when we’re training or whatever. Be MR. a : Make the inmates see you. to ensure everybody is there. And rounds are A to ensure that inmates are kind of doing what they’ re supposed to be doing? MR. a : And that’s a perfect, what’s the word I’m looking for? Perfect expression. MR. a : Okay. Perfect example. MR. a : ‘i stated the Special Housing Unit is responsible for doing rounds every 30 minutes. As the lieutenant, he would sign round forms, if they were correct. He had never signed off on forms that were EFTA00061092

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ow oO wo wo filled out in advance, and would report any instances of that to his supervisors, if he was aware of it.” So, I’m assuming what you mean there is, if you knew they were filled out in advance? MR. a : I wouldn’t sign them. MR. QJ: Right. MR. a : I’m not putting my John Hancock on that. I would tell them (Indiscernible *00:22:58). MR. Ee : But, how would you know if they had filled it out in advance? You mean, if -- MR. a : If I went there and sat, and if I walked into the SHU unit and it was 1:00, I’m just throwing the time out there -- MR. a : Sure. MR. a : -- 1:00 p.m., but I saw the rounds sheet, it was 1:00 when I walked in, but I look at the rounds sheet and the 1:30 rounds are already filled out. MR. a : And would that happen? MR. a : Very rarely. But I might, I don’t think I have seen it as a lieutenant, but I have heard of it happening. EFTA00061093

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1 MR. a : But you never really, you 2 never wit was trained the way it ell the boss. 7 MR. ae : Now, back then, August of 8 2019, had you heard that people were filling oy ct oO o wu) wu o Q P- al P- rt Pp. io] rt wo them out in advance? 0 MR. QJ: «No. =I didn’t. 3 MR. a : Okay. So you’re not 4 aware of anybody filling them out in advance? 16 knowledge. 7 MR. a : “He trained officers to 8 defer their round patterns, so inmates wo no personal wo =] 0 ct ion fi} iy = ry] 5 o oO rh ct a i) # 8 ct b- 3 p. o Q 20 Nh a N in] N rox) rounds at 1:05, 1:35, 1:45. Alternate Nh het is) c i 25 your rounds. The policy states, every 30 EFTA00061094

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ies) uw 5 heard stories of officers not completing their 6 30 minute rounds in the SHU. Other than the 7 Jeffr uy) i) y Epstein death, he had not heard of an 8 instance for approximately five to ten years.” wo a OH Ye So, I’m assuming what 2 MR. a : Back in the days. 3 MR. a : But I’m assuming what you 4 said, when you say other than Jeffrey Epstein, 5 you did hear that they did not complete their 16 30 minute rounds? J a] H 9 1) wu n, bureau-wide. People 8 have gotten in trouble for it before. Right. 20 MR. QJ: vhat’s why, like, this whole, this was all new with the fact that how wo 5 N ras N in] serious it got. MR . a : Okay. But you had heard August 9° and 10%, N oy a Nh ct . iy rt x i A. 2) c .) @ fu a] A. ct x w rt oO 5 if i) uw ct y o o a] a A. ' fu 3 wu fs] suming this means after the EFTA00061095

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1 fact, that people weren’t conducting their 30 2 minute rounds? 3 MR. a : The only thing I heard is 4 the same thing everybody else has heard, out on 7 MR. ae : What you hear in the media, 8 what you hear on social media, what you hear in wo ct ah o newspapers. They were very quiet here. 11 MR. a : I was here that morning of, 2 after the fact, and we didn’t get told 4 MR. a: Are you talking abot + oy a K @ wu a H hat Saturday. There was a total wo blackout. We were kept in the dark. 20 MR. a: And you hadn’t heard ling about, like, people n N ras conducting N in] counts or rounds? MR. a : No. Just, well, like I N rox) a 24 said, the same thing you heard out on the 25 street. EFTA00061096

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S) N Nh Nh S) N WwW wo WwW wo Ww I mean, not from MR. a : Well, I mean, here and there, but nothing was confirmed. something like this, look, it whispers, s, I have been doing this almost 21 years. God like this, everybody Monday didn’t do this. That’s all I have heard. MR. a : Uh-huh. MR. a : I didn’t hear nothing official, if that’s what you’re a MR. a : Yeah. No, no, no. MR. a : I have heard rumor mills. MR. a : There were whispers. This, other thing. EFTA00061097

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ow oO ~—] wo 10 12 13 14 MR. a : I would just assume people would have been talking inside the institution. I wanted to make sure that you also heard it inside the institution, not just through the media? MR. a : Yeah. No, I mean, I, like, € as far as a whisper here and a rumor here, I chose to stay away from it, because, one, I was a supervisor and two, I know what was coming down. MR. a : I knew how serious it was going to be. And I was not going to entertain any of that. MR. a : Sure. So, you had heard people saying that there were rounds and counts weren’t complete; however, you didn’t put any credibility to it -- MR. QR: No. MR. QJ: -- because it wasn’t official? MR. a : No. It wasn’t, it wasn’t official. It was just rumor mills. It was whispers. It was Monday morning gquarterbacking, for lack of better terms. EFTA00061098

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ow oO ~—] 12 13 14 17 18 19 what you’re saying is that since you have worked, maybe there was about two suicides? MR. a : I had one, I was personally involved in one in 2003, and that’s the one that I was, that I referenced. There was one years later. I don’t recall what year it was, or the outcome of that one. I just know that the one that I was involved in, the officer in charge in the SHU unit got suspended for it. MR. Ee : Okay. MR. a : So, the rounds were made, but they weren’t within that 30 to 40 minute, so the OIC got hit on that one. MR. QJ: | nd do you know why the OIC: ~ MR. a : I think the rounds, I think, if I can recall correctly, I think when he entered the round, about 40 minutes, but it turned out it didn’t jive with the camera. So they suspended him. MR. QM: «411 right. So, if the time that he wrote on the paper didn’t show -- MR. a : Didn’t jive with the camera. MR. a : (Indiscernible *00:27:38). 40 EFTA00061100

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1 MR. a : Like, the reason, the camera 2 showed we were making rounds. We just didn’t 3 make them between 30 and 40, that 30 minute, 4 not to exceed 40, I believe it just didn’t jive 5 with the camera. . ae : And they hit him. 8 MR. a : And were you actually in the SHU at the time? 0 MR. QJ: «= was in the SHU at the wo is) i] tan H- =] Q 3 MR. a : I was one of the officers 4 that cut that inmate down and we tried to do 5 CPR on him. We did CPR on him. We got him 16 down to Medical, and then they rushed him out ~] in an ambulance. 8 MR. a : And just out of curiosity, in that case, at about what time was wo 20 he found? something. MR. a : In the afternoon? It was before the 4 p.m. N ras that was, like, 3:30 N in] N oy a Nh i count. Nh uw EFTA00061101

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S) Nh No S) N WwW wo Nh WwW wo Ww MR. a : Okay. So it happened actually in the afternoon? want to take care of this? Oh, wow. MR. a : And he was MR. a : He had the thing tied up. He was between the bunk and the window. MR. a : Okay. Was he attached to +o? the bunk or what was he MR. a : I think he was attac don’t d to the window, if I recall. I hones remember. That was a long time ago. mR. QJ: «tt bunk or to the window. EFTA00061102

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1 remember he was between the window. Ne] WwW MR. : But that’s important to 4 note. So he actually had a cellma 5 time? still was able to J i y Fa J D 5 i} i} wu J o b ct = wu A Q D D 3 D oO fu cellmate never Wo rs] fw ke And do you know what he 8 MR | I believe it was cut-up 9 bedsheets 22 MR. QJ: 411 right. And that was That was 2003. i) 1 I H 7 i ct = wu H t > D EFTA00061103

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wo wo id K i) 7) 20 N ins) ine) WwW No e Nh Nh uw MR. a : I don’t remember exactly the dates or the stipulations on the one that happened years later. MR. a : Do you happen to remember the name of that inmate? MR. a : Of that committed suicide? n tated he was on duty the night Epstein was brought to MCC. He was received at the rear gate and observed him being processed in.” MR. QJ: 9 uh-huh. MR. a : “At the time of his arrival, Epstein was deemed okay to go to general population. | was unaware of his high profile.” I remember when he came in. only thing that I remember that i] stuck out in my mind, he went to the same high u Q school that I did. MR. a : I graduated from the same high school. Cause the cop, I think he was an 44 EFTA00061104

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10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 45 NYPD task force guy with the FBI, he was from Brooklyn and we chatted, cause we had Brooklyn accents, and come, you know, me and the cop were from, like, basically, the same area in Brooklyn, and he was, like, what high school did you graduate from? And I said, Lafayette, and Epstein actually said, so did I. I graduated from Lafayette High School. MR. ae : Interesting. MR. a : I processed him. Sent him up. I actually found out that they moved him to the Special Housing because of his profile status when I came back to work. MR. QJ: «So, you had no idea who he was? MR. a : I had no idea who he was. As a matter of fact, the next morning, my wife actually said, you’ll probably be getting him soon. And showed me the phone, you know, the news feed, and I said, soon? We got him last night. Then I knew who he was. MR. a : Okay. MR. a : And then when I came, by the time I came back to work, though, he was already in SEC (Phonetic Sp. *00:30:35). EFTA00061105

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wo wo MR. a : Interesting. it was just within 24 hours, he was general population to SHU? » stated he knew Epstein to be in visits often with his legal counsel.” MR. ae : “Other than the intake stions Eps o n is) qu tein answered on his arrival, | had no other personal interaction with “” him. MR. GJ: No. MR. a : So you never just, you never -- would just escort him. tted with him. I time, a lieutenant had to move him. MR. a : Okay. And what you would Would you ever ck in on his cell or anything like that? 46 EFTA00061106

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ow oO wo uw fon) wo No oO ine) uw hey, what’s up? MR. a : Right. When he was on, like, when he would be on one tier, I remember, I think, at one point in time, he was on H tier, if I’m not mistaken. The only time I would really see him on the tier is when I would escort him. MR. a : And what would you, what would be the purpose of escorting hi MR. a : Down to attorney conference, for would that be, then, in the morning, you would do that? MR. a : It would be all day long. He would get legal visits all day, into the evening. MR. a : And he would be going back and forth between the SHU? MR. a : Well, most of the time, he would get brought downstairs and he would be there for hours. MR. a : There would be times he would be in legal visits through the count. EFTA00061107

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wo wo ers would have to W om oO oO mH Hh Bb 0 Yeah, so my understanding was that he would basically be brought down around 8 a.m. and stay until almost 8 p.m. Is that -- hy hb is) rt fe) rh rt =] @ ct HH 4 i) a) ie) @ So not always, though? metimes back he would go to SHU and then a different attorney would come in and he would be brought back down in the afternoon. MR. in and out of here all day 1 a would visits MR. Okay. you escort him, would be of middle timeframe? Yeah. ba ever went Depending on what shift I was on. MR. a : Okay. And when you were EFTA00061108

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ow oO wo wo 49 escorting him, would you communicate with him? MR. a : Basically, how are you doing? All right. Well, I don’t, I don’t get too chummy with inmates. MR. a : Sure. I would just, you know, with Epstein, I’m assuming, it might stand out in your little, you know, in your head a little bit more. Do you know the last time that you had escorted him or (Indiscernible *00:32:35)? MR. a : I was about to escort him the night before he died. MR. a : And what happened? MR. a : I was in the lieutenant’s office, and the attorney conference officer said, hey, Lou, he’s ready to go. But Mr. Bullock was here, and Bullock was, like, Lou, I will take him up. MR. QR: Okay. MR. QJ: 9 And he said, you know, by the way, I’m going to take him up. I’m going to give him a legal call. MR. QM: Okay. MR. a : I was, like, okay. No problem. Bullock is a GS-12, so. I was like, EFTA00061109

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wo wo 20 Nh a N in] N rox) 24 MR. a : No? Okay. And then again, back to SHU, when you would visit the SHU and do a round, would you peek in on his window or any ing? Would you check with him and say, everything -- MR. ae : I mean, sometimes, his cell was right over where the OIC desk was. MR. a : And I could look right into his cell, and most of the time, I MR. a : And didn’t interact with him MR. a: But not actually check in are you good or anything like that? MR. a: No. If I was making a round downrange, I would peek in. I would peek in all the cells, if I’m downrange. MR. a : But not on a regular basis, MR. a : Okay. yo stated he was not involved officially in regard to EFTA00061111

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10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Epstein’s first alleged suicide attempt. His only other involvement with Epstein was to bring him food while in the SHU.” MR. a : Yeah, if he was on G tier. MR. a : Okay. MR. a: Cause on G tier, the lieutenants have to, have the key to the wicket to be able to feed, but if he was on a regular tier, no. There was times when, and when he was a lieutenant hold, a lieutenant had to open his, be there every time his slot was opened. But he wasn’t always on a lieutenant hold. MR. a : Can you explain that more? Cause G tier is like the 10 South of the SHU, right? MR. a : G tier is like a mini, it’s almost like 10 South. The inmates are self- sustained in there. They have their own shower. They have their own, you know, it’s basically, it’s a bigger room. It’s almost like the 10 South rooms. But also the same thing, the SHU lieutenant, or if the SHU lieutenant, afterhours, there’s no SHU lieutenant, only a lieutenant can open those (Indiscernible *00:34:50) boxes. The wickets. 52 EFTA00061112

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ow oO o wo o No Oo wo ine) wi Wo MR. a : So, was Epstein ever on G tier? MR. a : I don’t recall. I don’t remember. MR. a : So what does this mean by his only other involvement with Epstein was to bring him food? MR. a : Food. When they’re a lieutenant hold, even if they’re in a regular SHU cell, a lieutenant has to be present to open the slot. Even though the lieutenant i] doesn’t have to open it himself, the lieutenant has to be there when the slot is opened. MR. Ee : So, anytime inmates are served food in the SHU, a lieutenant has to be present? MR. a : No. Not every inmate. Only if the inmate is a lieutenant move. Like, if a lieutenant has to be present, like, high security. Like if they’re assaultive. Inmates could be put -- MR. a : So, was Epstein ever a lieutenant move? MR. a : I’m not 100% sure. MR. Ee : So, that’s where I’m just EFTA00061113

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ow oO ~—] wo trying to get the accuracy of this thing, so MR. a : I don’t, I don’t remember. That’s the problem. I remember -- MR. a : So, do you remember ever bringing Epstein food in the SHU? MR. QJ: 91 fed him before. But that might have also been just because I happened to be downrange. I can’t recall if, I don’t recall if he was ever actually a lieutenant hold. MR. ae : Okay. MR. a : I remember he had to be escorted from attorney conference. So that’s what, cause that’s what -- MR. Ee : How would his feeding be done, when he was in attorney conference? Would they, would you feed him? MR. a : Sometimes, they would get a bag lunch. And they would take it up with them. MR. a : So, as in, like, when -- MR. a : I don’t remember if he ever ate in the attorney conference room, but he wouldn’t get the food from the food cart there. EFTA00061114

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wo wo wi uw He would get, like, the bag lunch from R&D. MR. QM: So, like, if he, when he was escorted in the morning, they would give him a bag lunch to bring into the attorney -- Yeah. Well, like, tt 5 have, sometimes, I believe, he would get, I’m not sure, he could be escorted back to the Special Housing to eat his meal. MR. a : Use the restroom or whatever, and go down, but they get to use the restroom when they’re in attorney conference, MR. a: Okay. So you’re not sure how he was fed, then? MR. a : Not down in attorney conference, no. MR. a : Okay. Cause he was there if MR. a : That I recall. MR. a : All right. So, the food, I’m assuming, would have taken place more at, EFTA00061115

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ow oO 10 11 12 13 14 17 18 19 like, what time, you know, when he would get, return back at the 8 p.m. mark. Would that be when he would be fed? MR. a : Well, he would, if he was given the food in R&D, like, not R&D, the bag lunches, he would have it given to him in attorney conference and he would take it with him. MR. QR: okay. MR. a : You know, if he was going to eat past dinnertime, but also, a lot of the times, too, if he was, like, not just him. Any inmate. If they’re downstairs, the officers could also place the food in his cell, and he could have the food when he comes back from attorney conference. MR. a: Okay. So, they can go in his cell ahead of time, put it in there, even if he had a cellmate? MR. BMJ: Ss ves. MR. a : Okay. And there was never problems with, like, the other cellmate - MR. a : No. I mean, for the most part, the inmates respect each other. EFTA00061116

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N WwW wo WwW wo Ww 4 back to the SHU, and that he was required to have fw roommate, per a mass email he had received.” MR. QJ: Yeah. =It went out to all MR. ae : So, you received an ying that Epstein was required to have MR. a : Okay. And was that , 2019? oO requirement still in place on August I believe ersations with any regarding Epstein’s need for a roommate, a So no one ever verbalized that to MR. a : Just in the email. MR. a: Just the -- MR. QJ: 9 ana cholo verbalize it? MR. a : I mean, EFTA00061117

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12 13 14 17 18 19 Like, for lack of, they would say that, you know, not on a daily basis. They would just say, any kind of, especially if they have had a suicide attempt in the past, they get put on what’s called the hot list. Psychology threats are always on the hot list. Inmates that are on the hot list should always have a bunkie. MR. a : Okay. So, anybody on the hot list gets a bunkie? MR. a : As long, if it’s dictated in there by Psychology. Psychology fills out the hot list. MR. QJ: Right. MR. BMJ: And it gets, they update it. MR. a : So, is Psychology’s hot list, is it just for the people that need cellmates or is it also people that can’t have cellmates? What is the hot list? MR. a : What do you mean? Can or can’t? What do you mean? MR. a : Can’t, cause aren’t there some people that have, like, you know, (Indiscernible *00:38:34). MR. a : Separation, no, the hot list doesn’t pertain, the hot list is psychological. EFTA00061118

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ow oO wo uw fon) wo No oO ine) wi ) It’s from Psychology. MR. a : So, if you’re on the hot list, everybody gets a cellmate? MR. a : Yeah. If it’s annotated in there. It will, every inmate’s, in the hot ssycholo QQ y generates it. list, a picture of the inmate is in there. That is, whether he or she is in for a Psych study or a forensic study or what have you, and it will say, you know, suicide attempts in the he past. Or cutter. Or what have you. MR. a : And where would that hot MR. a : The hot list is kept in SHU. MR. QM: Where in the suHu? MR. a : It should be in a, either on a clipboard or in a folder. MR. a : And do you know where it was on August 9, 2019? MR. a : It should have been, I’m not 100% sure. I can’t recall, but it should have been on a clipboard on the hook. MR. a : And are the officers -- MR. a: MR. a : Are the officers that are in SHU required to look at that hot list? the officers’ station. EFTA00061119

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2 ow oO ~—] wo 10 12 13 14 MR. Ee : All right. So, they should know -- MR. a : They should be familiar with who is on the hot list. MR. a : So, is everybody that worked in the SHU, should have they known that Epstein was required to have a cellmate? mR. QJ: ves. MR. Ee : Is there any reason for someone to say that they didn’t know that Epstein was required to have a cellmate? MR. a : Unless they weren’t assigned to the post and they were thrown in there on overtime or mandated to work overtime and they weren’t familiar with it, that can happen. But if you’re steady, assigned to that post, you should be familiar with the hot list. MR. a : Okay. And is there any kind of requirement for people, like, overtime that are, you know, not regularly working in the SHU, to be either briefed on the hot list or to review the hot list when they joined? MR. a : It all depends. Like, I mean, a good SHU officer, worth his weight in 60 EFTA00061120

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ow oO ~—] 12 13 14 17 18 19 salt, would at least talk the staff member through it. But, like I said, there was plenty of times where the entire SHU crew were all overtimers. MR. QJ: Right. MR. a : So, nobody came to work. MR. a : Okay. MR. a : And a lot of the times, you would have SHU crews, never mind just SHU crews, institutional staff that would be zombies, because they had been getting stuck four days in a row. So a lot of the times, things, you know, it’s a lot to absorb. You just, you’re trying to do the job. MR. a : Okay. So, looking at the August 9, 2019, roster, and I’m going to say from the 8 a.m. hour on to the end of the day, for the people that were working in the SHU, can you tell me who you believe should have known that he was required to have a cellmate? MR. a : For the day shift or the evening shift? MR. Ee : Just from 8 a.m. on. MR. a : 8 a.m. on. All right. Well, it looks, there was three officers, 61 EFTA00061121

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ow oO wo uw fon) wo No oO ine) Oo Wo she have known what the hot list was? MR. a : And should have she known that Epstein was required to have a cellmate? MR. a: Yes. You have to the hot, you have to sign that you reviewed the or) ign for MR. a : Oh, you do have to sign MR. QJ: | Yeah. Uh-huh. MR. a : All right. And who, when MR. a : Last I checked, I don’t, I ‘t get quoted on this, cause I’m not 100% certain. We would sign it a lot, like, well, at least the lieutenants, would sign it when we would do lieutenants meetings and meet with Psychology and go, review the hot list, we would all sign for it. MR. QJ: Now, I’m assuming the hot r-changing, correct? a K ) a g MR. a : So, how often does the hot list have to be signed? EFTA00061123

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Nh Nh S) N WwW wo WwW wo MR. a : Every time it gets updated, and they put a new one, it should be reviewed. Okay. And I don’t, I ha se oO n it in a while, cause now, my = contact with Special Housing is limited, now that I’m a counselor. MR. a : Did you make that note? MR. : Yeah. Can I ask a question MR. a : And you know that you believe the had to sign the review of the MR. a : I’m not 100% sure, but I a form or EFTA00061124

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10 11 12 13 14 16 17 18 19 know, as they have, they’re require to review the hot list. They should be familiar with that hot list. Know who their psychological inmates are, just as well as reviewing the posted picture file. MR. a : Okay. MR. a : To know who your high profile and your dangerous inmates are. MR. QJ: 411 right. So, at that time, you being an Activities or in this case, an Ops Lieutenant, would have you had to have reviewed and signed the hot list in the SHU? MR. a : No, no, no. It’s, I would sign it here. Like I said, in the lieutenants meetings, we would go over it with Psychology. MR. Ee : Sorry. I mean, the SHU hot list, is what I mean. MR. a : No, that’s the one that would be there. The hot list is just generated by Psychology. It’s not like there’s one for SHU, one for the lieutenant’s office, one for here. It stays in SHU, but Psychology would always make sure we familiarize ourselves with it. MR. a : And is it only, is there EFTA00061125

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ow oO wo uw fon) wo No oO ine) Oo) nn only a hot list in SHU? MR. a : That I know of. MR. a : Okay. So, my question, sorry, I probably was unclear, is at this time, the SHU hot list, you being the Activities Lieutenant, or, in this case, the Ops Lieutenant on that specific date, August 9°, would you have reviewed and signed that hot MR. a : Not every day. MR. a : Yeah, yeah. But, like, when it was -- MR. a : Generated, yes. MR. a: Right. So, point being, like, if Epstein was on the hot list, you would have signed and reviewed it? MR. a : Yes. Of course. I mean, like I said, anybody at that point in time should have known that he was going to be on the hot list. MR. a : Especially after the first suicide attempt. MR. a : Okay. And do you think anybody in the institution, with his high- EFTA00061126

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10 11 12 13 14 16 17 18 19 21 22 23 ine] uw profile nature and the fact that he had a first suicide, suicide attempt, including these people that you mentioned in the SHU, is there any reason for anybody to say they didn’t know that Epstein was required to have a cellmate? MR. a : I don’t know. MR. a : You don’t know? MR. a : No. I mean, the people that are assigned to SHU, but the problem is, if you look, overtime. He wasn’t assigned. Overtime. She got assigned to that post, but it probably, I don’t believe it was her post for the quarter. You know? I’m not, I don’t, I can’t recall 100%. MR. a : But as far as, aren’t people that work in this facility, correctional officers first? MR. a : Of course. Of course. That’s the thing. MR. QJ: nd if they know that the high-profile nature and the fact that he tried to commit suicide, don’t all officers pretty much know, if you try to commit suicide, you’re required to have a cellmate? MR. a : Of course. 67 EFTA00061127

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ow oO o wo uw fon) co No Oo wo ine) oO) o MR. a : So, shouldn’t everyone have known that he was required to have a MR. a : In that sense, yes. MR. QM: «811 right. And especially the fact that he is in the SHU, he is, at the time, I think, your most high- profile inmate. MR. QJ: | uh-hun. MR. Ee : Do you believe that they should have known that he was required to have a cellmate? MR. QJ: Ss Yes. MR. Ee : Okay. ‘i stated Lieutenant Rice was the SHU lieutenant. He believed Lieutenant Rice would have known Epstein required a roommate or a cellmate as it is a regular responsibility. He believed Lieutenant Rice would have enforced the roommate rule. [RJ stated he had worked the 2 p.m. to 10 p.m. shift on August 9, 2019. He was relieved around 9:50 to 9:55 p.m. that evening. He was not aware that Epstein did not have a roommate.” MR. QJ: No. EFTA00061128

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ow oO wo wo MR. a : “He did not know ia. Epstein’s former roommate, had left MCC, leaving Epstein without a roommate. FT found out the following morning. He had been working as Operations Lieutenant that evening. R. m7 had been working as Acti ies Lieutenant. She had made the rounds.” All right, so on this, I’11l guess we’1l just go one sentence at a time. So you didn’t know that day that || had left the institution, is what you said? MR. a : No. No. MR. a : Now, is that -- MR. a : I was unaware. MR. a : Now, is that something that if he, if he had left, is that something that you should have known? MR. a : No. What happens is, when inmates go to court, and then they get released or transferred out, they don’t necessarily tell us. Basically, what happens is then, the only way we’re going to know anybody moved is when we do the PP30 at the end of the night. Right? Just to, you know, write down who -- MR. QM: «ss ts it PpP30 or 38? EFTA00061129

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2 ow oO ~—] wo 10 12 13 14 MR. a : PP, I believe it might be a 38. I don’t, off the top of my head, I don’t remember. I know it’s the quarter’s, the movement roster. I haven’t done it in a while. MR. a : Well, there’s some of those things we’re going to review after -- MR. a : Yeah. But I know it’s a Sentry, it’s got to be entered in Sentry, and then basically, it gets transferred over to the lieutenant’s log. MR. QJ: Okay. MR. a : Right? At, you know, to monitor what movement you had, just to make sure your numbers jive with the institution numbers at the end of each shift. MR. a : Okay. So, in this case, do you believe someone should have, being that it was Epstein, and Epstein’s cellmate, a. left the institution? Should someone have told you this? MR. a : Should somebody have told me directly? MR. a : Yeah, as the Ops Lieutenant, you have Epstein, your most high- profile. He is required to have a cellmate. EFTA00061130

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ow oO o wo uw fon) co No Oo wo ine) |g his cellmate, leaves the institution. Should someone have notified you? MR. a : I would have liked to be notified. MR. a : So, who should hav notified you that || was -- MR. a : When he departed the institution, somebody should have been notified. Maybe not me, but somebody should have known. MR. Ee : Okay. So, if he departed the institution at 8:38 a.m., and he’s listed as pre-remove, removed off of the records, how should have that went down? MR. a : If he was known to not come back, then he should have had gotten a new cellie. MR. a : Like right away? MR. QJ: Okay. So, if people claim that they didn’t, they weren’t, they assumed he wasn’t coming back, cause he went With All Belongings. So, if someone goes With All Belongings -- MR. QJ: 9 was means With All EFTA00061131

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ow oO ~—] 12 13 14 17 18 19 ine] ul Belongings. That me wu ns they’re not coming back. MR. a : And that’s pretty much -- MR. a : Most of the time, they’re not coming back. There are occasions where they cancel the bus, or they cancel the transport or Air America, they will cancel, and then they’1l come back, but most of the time, when they go WAB, that means they’re going. They’re either going home or going to whatever institution they’re getting moved to. MR. a : Right. So, in this case, if people know that | leaves at 8:30, he’s moved down by the OIC from the SHU to R&D, WAB. What should have happened at that point? MR. a : So, I would assume that during the day, on a Friday, the lieutenant, the SHU lieutenant is here. MR. a : So, if the SHU lieutenant is actually off that day, no SHU lieutenant, you got -- MR. SHU, a supervisor should have been notified. MR. QJ: okay. MR. a : And been like, hey, he don’t A lieutenant should have, a EFTA00061132

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10 11 12 13 14 16 17 18 19 80 hospital.” MR. a : Yes. MR. a : Now, were they people that escorted Epstein to the hospital? MR. a : That’s what I believe, yeah. They had to be, because, like I said, I was on my way to the hospital. I went straight to the hospital. I believe those were the three staff members that they got to be the escorting staff. MR. ee : Okay. Now, as far as Epstein going to the hospital, do you know when he actually was deceased? MR. QJ: 9 remember, my mission at that point, Lieutenant || had told me, go straight to the hospital, tell the officers, you know, keep the area secure and record time of death. I think the hospital told me it was, like, 7 something. I don’t recall the actual time, and then I called Lieutenant J and gave him that time, and then he was, like, all right. We already got it. Bring yourself back to the institution. MR. a : So, do you know if, prior to that time, he had shown any signs of life? EFTA00061140

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ow oO wo uw fon) wo No oO ine) uw MR. QJ: «411 right. Great. So now, so, everything seemed accurate, as far as this was written? MR. a : Okay. Perfect. MR. a: I just have a couple of follow-ups. MR. a : Yep. Please. Go ahead. MR. a : You mentioned round sheets. Do you recall if here, at the MCC, in the SHU, the round sheets are kept at the end of each tier? Or are they kept on the desk? MR. a : They’ re supposed to be kept MR. ae: So, as a lieutenant, at that point, when you made your, if you had made your rounds -- MR. a : If I have seen the sheets on the desk, I would always tell the officers they need to be downrange, not on your desk. MR. a : And I would not initial them, unless they were, I wouldn’t initial them EFTA00061144

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ow oO wo uw fon) wo No oO ine) co uw MR. QJ: 9 uh-huh. MR. a : So, on that note, then, when you would go into sign that document, would you always go downrange to grab it? MR. a: No. There was times where I would see it on the desk and I would be, like, these need to be downrange. MR. a : So, you’re, when you walk into the SHU, you are supposed to walk downrange to do -- MR. a : To sign it. MR. ae : -- to sign it there? MR. QJ: «Uh-huh. MR. a: But oftentimes, that MR. a : As of late, as of late, that is where they are now. It all depends on what shift, because the morning watch lieutenant, the overnight lieutenant, has those sheets already sent down to that person. MR. QM: uh-huh. MR. a : In the thing, but you still have to go up and sign the round sheets anyway. Every shift, those round sheets have to be signed. Cause you have to ensure that the EFTA00061145

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ow oO o wo uw fon) o No Oo wo ine) want, for lack of better terms. Look, I’m (Indiscernible *00:59:40) I’1ll call a spade a space. Right? If somebody is going to fudge around, it’s easier for them to do it that way. MR. QM: | uh-huh. MR. a : Then if it’s downrange. If it’s downrange, you have to go downrange. MR. QM: Richt. MR. a : So, you’re going to look in each cell and then when you get to the end of that tier, that’s when you scribble your time. = That’s why it’s easier for that round sheet and 7] that camera to jive. MR. QR: b-houh. MR. a : Cause they’re downrange. MR. Ee : Okay. Sorry. MR. a: No, no. And the point of the lieutenant signing it is not that the lieutenant did the rounds -- MR. a : It’s to make sure that the officers are doing what they’re supposed to be. MR. a: Okay. Do you recall any special instructions coming down from the Warden or the Captain, regarding Epstein? EFTA00061147

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ow oO ~—] wo 88 MR. a : Nothing as far as, like, that he was high-profile. You know. MR. a: What was the, you mentioned instructions from Psychology, right? MR. a : Uh-huh. Which were basically the same, like, you know, he needs a bunkie. He is high-profile. MR. a: But there was no instructions, like you are never, as a lieutenant, there was no special instructions (Indiscernible *01:00:36). MR. a : If he was a lieutenant move, our instructions were a lieutenant has to be present when he moved. So, a lieutenant has to escort him, that I recall. MR. a: That email you mentioned that you got. Who was that from? The mass email? MR. a : I believe it was from the Captain. MR. QM: We’ re going to go through all that. MR. a : Or Correctional Services. I’m not, I’m not exactly sure who sent that out. MR. QJ: 9 Okay. EFTA00061148

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ow oO ~—] wo 89 MR. a : It would be generated from all the department heads. MR. a: Okay. That’s it. That’s all MR. a : Okay. But you’re familiar with the SHU, correct? MR. a : Yes. Yes. MR. a : (Indiscernible *01:01:15) all right. Great. Looking at this camera angle, this is a still shot. Can you tell me what it is that we’re looking at here? MR. a : This is the camera that’s up in, on the upper tier, by the 46 door, which is going into 10 South. This camera view right here is of the multipurpose area. These stairs right here, that you can barely make out, this would be G tier. MR. QR: Okay. MR. a : H tier. J, K tier down there. You can’t see L and M. This little shadow right here is the pipe, but that’s about all you can see of L tier. And then M tier is down those steps, and that’s the OIC’s station. MR. a : So, from this camera angle, this, if Epstein is in L tier, would you EFTA00061149

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ow oO o wo wo be able to see if people were going up and down L tier, from this camera angle? MR. a : You would be able to see a quick movement, but not the full, cause you can’t see the steps. MR. a : Is there a way for them, over this way, to like, go over here and go up here without you seeing them come up, or i ifs) this so close -- MR. a : No, no, no. This is totally, this is elevated. This area right here, this is a staircase door. MR. a : Okay. MR. a : This is an elevated position. You can’t, this camera would see staff coming up. MR. a : Oh, but as far as this angle, though, could you, could you, if was going up and down L tier -- MR. QJ: And if anybody was coming this way -- MR. a : -- could you tell that from here? MR. a : -- and going up, you would be able to, like I said, you would be able to EFTA00061150

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wo wo 24 lieutenant’s office up there. That the corner. And I think the camera is above the lieutenant’s office. maybe like right here, maybe? I’m not 100% certain. But it should be, it’s somewhere over here, the camera and the camera pans that way. there and in that open spot next to it, write camera? All right. Perfect. Do you mind just initialing and dating that? And then we’re also -- MR. a : Eight, today is the 4th, cause it’s my daughter’s birthday. MR. a : Twenty-one. MR. QR: ow old? MR. QJ: 9 twenty-one. you initial MR. a : Sure. Date it, too? MR. a : Yes, please. All right. So, all right. Thank you. That confirms what wo uw EFTA00061155

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10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 this is, thank you. And this is someone else’s drawing. I just want to see, this kind of (Indiscernible *01:06:32) this is actually what we said here. Yeah, so it looks like, and this is everything. Cool. Now, was there, you said, you mentioned a bulletin board that had the hot list? Where would that be? MR. a : Well, I can’t, right here, it’s hard to tell from that, but usually, the hot list should be somewhere right up there on the hook. MR. a : Okay, so this is the bulletin board here? MR. QM: Yeah. And there’s also, now, I don’t, not then, but there was, there’s, there was stuff up here, but not, I don’t believe it was a bulletin board. It’s a bulletin board now, if you go up there. MR. QJ: | 4.11 right. MR. a : But there was, the hot list used to be right there. It should have been right there, by where the phone was. MR. Ee : All right. So, I’m going to write above it, B board. So this is where the bulletin board was? 96 EFTA00061156

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wo wo No oO N ins) ine] r Ww N Nh ine] uw wo ) you’re looking at this 7 'S Ss Oo rt oO t 7] rt So } 07) wu photo of L tier, going up? MR. QJ: §=vep. MR. a : And would he be over MR. a : He would be the first cell, right, in this corner most, right here, is the shower. But right next to the shower is the first cell. MR. a : So if you’re walking up the tier, you open the door, he’s right to the right? MR. a : He’s going to be the first MR. QM: «the first cell to the right. Okay. And I know you can’t really make out this. Do you have any reason to believe that wouldn’t be his cell? MR. a : Well, I can’t even make out the number. MR. a : Right. And then, you know, this is the tier. This is L tier, going down. Is this a camera, right here? MR. a : Is this camera supposed EFTA00061159

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ow oO wo wo 104 MR. a : What do you mean? In, like, far as from staff? MR. a : Yeah, like, for instance, this is another one that, I think this is the email that you would have received, regarding Epstein being required to have a cellmate from July 30, 201 MR. a : Oh, yeah, yeah. No, these, I would get them and delete them. MR. Ee : All right. So you would delete those? MR. a : Yeah. And as lon knew, you know, that was it. MR. Ee : So, you didn’t understand, like, this to mean, like, not to oO ? Q fu 7] H delete anything pertaining to Epstein? MR. QM: 9 No, but the thing is, at least I never got anything like this, after it happened. MR. QM: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I’m talking about, like, prior to, I think that this is asking you to save anything that was related to Epstein, correct? MR. a : Yeah, no. I get what that, you know, that, I didn’t think that that was EFTA00061164

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ow oO o wo uw co wo No oO ine) b what it meant. Like these. routine things. I thought it MR. a : Okay. from yours. So, you didn’t, it, at least. but my point being is, like - MR. QJ: «uh-huh. w misunderstood, maybe. I’m th means shredding. MR. QJ: sot if email pertaining to Epstein, could delete it? MR. a : There’s, 1 this, if it’s sitting in my t always empty my trash. I mea Bureau could pull those email MR. QM: yeah, I th like, physically, like, destr These were just meant -- Well, that came I was able to get have deleted it, ell, I inking destroying you received an you thought you uess so. Fair enough. ike, stuff like rash bin. I don’t n, anybody in the Ss anyway. Let me see how -- ought it meant, oying stuff. Like, I wish I could even have a copy of my memo, but AUSA has it. EFTA00061165

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111 1 MR. a : I wasn’t told. Like I said, 2 I found out the day after it happened. Well, when I came in. on the second note 5 of 6 should have he ensured that he got a cellmate prior to his departure, at 1:50 p.m.? 8 || left at 8:38 a.m., WAB, into R&D, he’s wo keyed out Should a new cellmate 0 have been assigned to Epstein, even prior to been prudent 4 MR. a: Okay. should 16 QM, and it looks like QR, during his shift, that, hey, we need to get Epstein a new you know, 8 cellmate? 9 Anybody that was on that, 20 there, should have been, if 21 the knowledge got passed, it was never pass 22 to the lieutenants. MR . a : Okay. But, okay. And N rox) 24 then if the lieutenants knew, so, for instance, EFTA00061171

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wo wo No oO N ins) ine] r Ww N Nh ine] uw GEMM is gone, should have he notified them that he was WAB gone? Or, so, if he believed instance, | is the Ops, so he’s kind of MR. QJ: «9 uh-huh. know | | i cellmate. Is there any reason, and especially fr) gone. I know he is Epstein’s if he went WAB, is there any reason, any argument for 7 to be made that, well, I didn’t know if he was coming back or not? a) If he wasn’t notified that he was WAB, it would, you wouldn’t know. if he didn’t know he was WAB, it is an argument to be made to he could have come back, is that correct? he would have MR. a : If he didn’t, he would have had to have known he was WAB, if he knew he EFTA00061172

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ow oO ~—] wo 10 12 13 14 113 wasn’t coming home, like, coming home, coming back to the jail. MR. QJ: Okay. All right. If he knew he was WAB, he should have acted and gotten him a new cellmate. If he didn’t know he was WAB, then it was okay for him not to issue him a new cellmate? MR. a : Yeah. If he didn’t know he wasn’t coming back or if he was even gone, he wouldn’t know. That’s why I said, if the white shirts didn’t get notified, we don’t know what’s happening. MR. a : Yeah, yeah. But you had, so, let me ask you separately. If || says, yep, I knew | was, I knew iz was gone. I knew | | was Epstein’s cellmate. And he didn’t know he was WAB. Was it okay for him not to have acted? MR. a : No. If he was told, it was not okay. MR. a : But if he wasn’t told that he was WAB, he was just told he went to court. MR. a : I mean, at that point in time, I would have been a little worried that EFTA00061173

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S) N N p Nh S) N WwW wo WwW wo Ww he was alone, but you’re talking day wat there’s constant movement. MR. a : Well, if Epstein’s down in attorney MR. QM: Yeah. §=That’s probably what happened. “Ss until 8 p.m. -- work until, until that day? probably 2:00. I knew | was gone, but I didn’t » if he is know he wasn’t coming back, would that translate to mean he didn’t tell you that a was MR. QJ: «tf he didn’t think that ed him at just about 114 EFTA00061174

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wo wo there was an issue, no. there was Should have he told you that gone, being that it was Epstein, he was required to have a cellmate, and || was at court? If he knew, then he should should have notified you regardless if he was that court? least at MR. QJ: at that point in time, so, see, this is where it’s hard to tell. Look, when you’re Operations Lieutenant, you’re moving, You're filling overtime. As you’ re working the entire institution. Yep. you can see, filling that roster was a nightmare. Uh-huh. All right? You’re doing this, you’re doing that. You’re doing a million things. Right? You may not even know that this guy even went to court. But if he If he says he knew -- EFTA00061175

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116 1 MR. a : He says he knew he went 2 to court. He just didn’t he wasn’t t = 5 ie) = t > fu tT 4 MR. QJ: 9 that’s 5 knew, if he said he knew, then something should if] Q Pp Fh oO kK i) o t H rh 7 o 6 have happened. 7 MR. ae : So, if he knew he went to 8 court, even if he says, I didn’t know if he wo wasn’t coming back or not, he should have at 0 least notified you, though, hey, heads-up, h. Yeah. Or it was 3 jus tell the OIC, like, listen, 4 if Epstein comes back up and this guy is not back from court make sure Epstein oy bunkie. J 5 5 tad w wo have been put in place. 20 MR. a: So, || should have at should have notified either, should have N C t oO wu i) ct ins) in] =] 3) ct b- rh t 1) QQ . b it sounds like, both you, as well as, N rox) c 3 case, who was the OIC at the time? Nh i Day watch ine] uw bd U fe) EFTA00061176

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Ne] WwW wo WwW 9 20 79 117 though, I think, for, like, the whole, is it at this period of time, Just SHU-1? -- for the quarter though, ae So, | should have notified ew that he was at court, re sure he wasn he told Sr coming back, EFTA00061177

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Nh Nh S) N WwW wo WwW wo Ww MR. a : If he knew that, if he knew that he was going to not have a bunkie, I should have been, I should have known, being that I was coming on. MR. QJ: So, this is where I’m to focus on my words. I’m sorry. MR. a : Right now, I’m asking, if | was at court, but || didn’t know that he wasn’t coming back. He just knew that || a) was at court, should have he told you? he was Well, see, that’s the thing. We don’t always, we don’t know who went to court until we do that roster of the movement. But if we talk to i. || was at court. Uh-huh. I just didn’t know if he was coming back or not. MR. a : Should have he relayed EFTA00061179

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Nh Nh S) N WwW wo WwW wo Ww there, | could have ended at 2? MR. a: Yes. And there could be a gap That was actually Iinft Especially when have a regular scheduled the 2 to 10 as a lieutenant, activities. Okay. would you especially as Ops Activities, would you get the prisoner production lis From R&D. And then was that supposed to review? needed basically, if we instance, this dated Thursday, for ner production August 121 EFTA00061181

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Ne] WwW w WwW co wo 123 sent to the lieutenants? MR. a : I pulled this from your ah. oO PP38 that to court, ng about. MR. a : ( MR. QJ: 9 uh-huh. ma MR. a : On the third page, it he was just going -- H i-5 wv =a F) the time that he was MR. EFTA00061183

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2 MR. a : No. It would, I believe it 3 would say SDNY or EDNY, or whatever, whatever 4 court he was going to. 5 MR. a : So, if it was listed as 6 pre-remove -- 8 MR. a : -- does that assume that he’s not coming back? wo 2 MR. a : Now, that has changed 4 then come back -- 16 MR. a : -- because something got wo something that 20 the Activities be kind of aware of this stuff? N ras N ho Fs) Well, we would get sent 23 this, mainly, I hate to say this, there would 24 be sometimes issues with the officers in the 25 morning, getting the inmates out to court. EFTA00061184

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96 3 actual court list, so if they had to call us 4 and be, like, hey, Lou, you know, R&D is 5 calling for this guy and I would just bring 6 this up, and be like, yeah, he’s on the list. 7 But we wouldn’t study this. We would just, we 8 were included in the Marshals loop, because we wo would be the supervisors. 0 MR. a : Now, if he was actually being transferred to another institution -- Uh-huh. 4 listed on 5 MR. a : No, he would be on 16 for the day. 7 MR. QJ: 411 right. 8 an email from also the U.S. Marshals Service, w Fh rom a Choo, C-H- 21 MR. a : -- subject, “Transfer of 22 Prisoners from NYM to GEO.” N rox) a What’s GEO? N N uw = OD It’s the private jail. EFTA00061185

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wo wo MR. a : In New York? MR. a : Yes. I believe it’s in New MR. a : Okay. And this one is also dated Thursday, August 8, 2019. It “The following prisoners are to be transferred.” Here it says, i. i.” Do you know he would be listed on this email, on August th, as well as a prisoner production on August co . aa 7] there any -- MR. a : No. No. That’s whatever the Marshals were doing. you ever seen something like that before? MR. a : What, moving an inmate? MR. a : Well, so, on this, it going to court, right? MR. QR: 9 uh-huh. MR. a : But on this one, it says he’s being transferred. MR. a : Quite honestly, it’s, I know I’ve seen, like I said, like on the 38, I’m n wu kK 7] a o 7] st going, I’m sorry, I’m going BOP-wise. = N nn EFTA00061186

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2 ow oO ~—] 12 13 14 17 18 19 127 MR. a : And then the 38 -- MR. a : On the 38, see, like, GCT release, full-time release, FT release, or like you see here, the pre-remove status and stuff like that. MR. a : Yeah, so that’s kind of where we’re trying to, we’re trying to put these pieces together. Why would he be on an email here, saying that prisoner schedule report, listing him as court. Here, saying he’s being transferred, excuse me, to the GEO. MR. QJ: 39 ceo. MR. a : And then on the 38, showing he’s pre-removed. MR. a : Yeah. I guess, I’m assuming, I could be wrong, this is just the way our computer, the way our system puts it in. Like, this right here, the FT release, that means this guy maxed out. He’s not going to, like, a halfway house or anything like that. Where is it? Pre-remove means he’s being transferred. MR. a : Pre-remove means he’s being transferred? EFTA00061187

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wo wo No oO N ins) ine] r Ww N Nh ine] uw thing next to And do you know if this him would be that transfer with thing? Would that be -- have, I can’t answer that. *01:29:42). I don’t know. Honestly, I Okay. Giovanne Bousy. (Phonetic Sp. Where’s that guy? ke Yeah, so, Bousy officer says transfer -- Pre-remove. MR. a : -- and he’s pre-remov But these other guys don’t seem to say transfer within. So, i 0] this something like, if this is being sent to the lieutenant, should you be able to look at this and say, like, transfer within, that means he’s out of here? MR. a : Honestly, I can’t answer Okay. MR. a : I have never looked, I hav honestly never looked at that part. Okay. MR. a : I have never looked at it. MR. a : So, when you receive this, do you, as the Ops Lieutenant, Activities Lieutenant, look at these things, these EFTA00061188

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ow oO wo uw fon) co No Oo wo ine) No prisoner production lists? MR. a : I would glance at it, and I would see what it is, but I would normally, I’m not going to lie. I would put it off to the side, because I would only really use that if there was a problem with the officers getting the inmates to court. MR. a : Okay. MR. a : And then, you know, R&D calling the lieutenants over, say ng, hey, I’m trying to get this dude down from 7 North, and they’re not sending him, and then I would look. MR. QJ: | 411 right. MR. a : I didn’t look at it every day. MR. a: So, the fact that these are being sent to the MCC -- MR. QJ: | uh-huh. MR. a : -- saying he’s transfer within here, and he’s here being, you know, this one is, he prison production list, and rt this one is being the transfer order for these two people. MR. QJ: «uh-huh. MR. a : And then obviously at EFTA00061189

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ow oO wo uw fon) co No Oo wo ine) No 8:38, he is listed as pre-remove. So, we’re being notified that | i institution. With these notifications from the n leaving the U.S. Marshals Service, who should have acted? Who should have known, 7 isn’t coming back? MR. a : I mean, whoever saw it first. MR. a : Who, is there somebody, like, that’s responsible for, like, saying, like, all right? MR. a : Everybody in this address box gets it from the Marshals. It goes out at the same time. MR. a : And that’s what I mean, s a lot of people there. MR. a : Yeah. And that’s the thing. MR. a : There’s a lot of people here, and there’s less people on this one. MR. QJ: 9 uh-huh. MR. a : This one, it looks like it’s, does this look, can you indicate from the transfer email, can you tell at that time who those people would have been? MR. a : Okay. Everybody here is the EFTA00061190

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10 11 12 13 14 17 18 19 being transferred within, that should have known it one that should have said he’s leaving this institu Epstein’s cellmate. Who to take action on this? vn. : know. ea I can’ You I don’ who would have been the main person responsible for it. I mean, I guess it’s for everybody’s eyes something that this routinely would have been, if this transfer notice, is the SHU staff would have Saying -- MR. No. 5 SHU -- MR. Cau this. MR. i: -- the it. is it the captain ? +%IIs it, who is the , like, yes, we know tion. This is should have been able t, I can’t, I don’t don’t know? t know. everybody, I guess , but it wasn’t got utilized. this something that is a transfer within, this something that been notified of? HU, I don’t believe se they’re not on COs were tagged on I don’t know EFTA00061192

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ow oO ~—] wo MR. a : But I’m saying, like, as far as, here’s the, you know, whatever -- MR. a : Well, the inmates, whatever comes on that, whatever R&D gets from the Marshals Service, they put out their own court list to the staff. MR. QR: un. MR. a : The officers get regular court lists generated. So those names of those inmates would get put on the court, the call out list. MR. ae : Okay. MR. a: that court list gets handed out in the morning. MR. a : Okay. So, as far as this, it looks like we know he’s being nd for the court list, and hal transferred, and now that we’re seeing that these two guys that were being transferred are both listed on this prisoner schedule report as transfer within -- MR. QJ: «9 uh-huh. MR. a : -- what should R&D have done? Should have they, are the people that are listed on that court list, are they also the people that are being transferred to other EFTA00061193

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1 institutions? 2 MR. a : No. Everybody on the court it would say exactly what they are. If re on the court list, it would 5 know, court. It would say, or, it would 6 you know, WAB. 8 MR. a : So, and then they send that out to the housing units, including SHU. 0 MR. a : So, again, if, you know, 11 going back to that memo, | knows, it 2 says, would it say WAB or court? Or both? 3 MR. a : I believe it just says, if 4 it’s WAB, it would say, it would say, I think wo nl FT remove, or I’m not 100% sure. I seen on 8 you’re not exactly sure what it said, but -- @ in so long. No. 20 MR. QJ: -- it’s all the same document of the people wo a3 N ras N in] that morning? MR. a : Yeah, but it’s, all of this that. N oy a Nh c fi =] Oo ct oO =] Right. iN) uw F EFTA00061194

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ow oO ~—] wo 10 12 13 14 have, at the very least, notified his superiors, hey, we need to get him a new cellmate. Is it okay that he has wrote this memo, saying, I passed it on. You know, I knew at 8:38 he was WAB, but I passed it on to the 2 p.m. people, make sure he gets a cellmate? MR. a : I don’t, like, can you, I’m sorry. MR. ae : So, I’m just trying to figure out who messed up here. Cause obviously, Epstein’s required to have a cellmate. MR. QJ: «Uh-huh. MR. Ee : We saw from that email. We know mz is being transferred. We know he’s gone. MR. QJ: | uh-huh. MR. a : So, we know the day before it happens, there’s emails that go out. We know at 8:38, R&D listed him as pre-remove. He’s gone from this institution. However, MR. QJ: 9 uh-huh. MR. a : Somebody doesn’t take action. So, what I’m trying to figure out is, EFTA00061196

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ow oO o wo uw fon) co No Oo wo ine) the OIC. MR. Ee : All right. And do you remember, I know you said you didn’t know he transferred, but should his, you know, should you have known by these documentations, from this prisoner report? MR. QJ: «= tf 1 had read that, well, this, I don’t, I have never seen this before. MR. ae : Right. This one. MR. Ee : From looking at it? MR. a : I would just, from looking at it -- MR. Ee : Would you even know? MR. a : -- I don’t remember, recall the transfer within. I would always only look at the names. And know that they have to be generated for a court list. MR. a : Okay. So you just know these people are going to court? You don’t even know that the transfer was (Indiscernible *01:37:52) the transfer? MR. a : I don’t alway: top of my head, like, this guy is n 5 o Oo = Oo rh Hh ct a o n Q 1?) Pp =] Q a Oo al i) ~ this guy is going there. I just know they have EFTA00061199

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ow oO ~—] wo 10 12 13 14 to be presented so there’s no problems, like, said, I would only really refer to that if R&D contacted me and said, hey, LT, this guy, I’m waiting an hour so far for this guy. Can you get on the office? And I’d look, okay, yeah. Hey, Jones, inmate Schmukatelli (Phonetic Sp. *01:38:11) from 7 North, you know, you got to get him to court. MR. QR: okay. MR. a : He’s on the court list. MR. ee : All right. So, and as the court list, does the Op, like, would | | have had that court list, saying, if it said WAB, would have he had that, a. the Ops Lieutenant, have the court list? MR. a : Yes and no. Sometimes, the internal would drop a copy of the court list off to the lieutenant’s office. Mainly, the main people that need it was internal, and the housing units. MR. QJ: okay. MR. QJ: 9 And suv. MR. Ee : All right. So, the Ops Lieutenant isn’t actually provided a copy of the court list? I 140 EFTA00061200

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No WwW wo co wo WwW a H rt wn not required. MR. a : All right. Okay. Do mind just initialing and dating these? ie] is (Indiscernible *01:53 MR. QJ: 9while you do that, the transfer email, the one that you signed, who was that from? MR. a : It’s from a. MR. MR. a : Yeah. He used to be BOP. MR. ae: Just to working here during this E Was he time (Indiscernible *01:3 MR. a : No, he was already gone. MR. a : He’s from the Marshals Service. The Marshals Service. MR. a: But before, he said he was working here, and now he’s, I just want to che record. ie] ray iu] K P- fh het hh ie) in] ct happened. EFTA00061201

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1 MR. a : Thank you. Thank you. 2 MR. QJ: 9 This too? 3 MR. a : Yes, please. The other 4 way, you can keep them in order. Thank you. These too? 6 MR. es : We’re going to keep them, so if we have to refer to them. uw a us. =] is] rt wo id 4 a fw ct if i] wu a a @ HK Ae} bh c 0 right. So, what time is the daily activities report and the lieutenant’s log usually sent 2 out in the mornings for the day before? 3 MR. a : It’s done on the morning 16 to be done before 6 a.m.? 7 MR. a : Yeah. As the morning watch 8 lieutenant, I have to make sure that before my 9 shift is done, I send out the whole thing, and 20 that’s er, cause if you look at the N ras person to sign it is the evening N in] watch lieutenant. I now, as the morning watch N rox) a Nh i you know, the 10 to 6 or 12 to 8, i) uw t b o co rt oO 5 fu =] EFTA00061202

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ow oO 10 11 12 13 14 17 18 19 whichever it is, this, I have to print out the daily log, the three daily logs from the midnight to 8, prior, the day shift, and the evening watch and there’s a thing that, and it gets emailed to the exec staff, the captain, and I believe it used to get emailed to the executive assistant, if I’m not mistaken. MR. a : Okay. MR. a : There was a certain amount of people on the thing. MR. ee : But is it supposed to be done, basically, the morning, the morning watch shift ends at 6 a.m., correct? MR. QM: sves. MR. a : So it’s supposed to be, like, sent out before 6 a.m.? MR. a : Yes. MR. a : All right. So, I have these emails from Tuesday, August 6, 2019. This one was sent at 5:16 a.m. The next one from August 7*® was sent at 5:03 a.m. For some reason, I wasn’t able to look at Thursday, but Friday, August 9*5, was sent out at 5:11 a.m. And then Saturday, August 10, 2019, it wasn’t sent out until almost, it says almost 9:30 a.m. EFTA00061203

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10 11 12 13 17 18 19 after that, August 12*®, it actually isn’t sent out until 6:36 a.m. MR. a : Yeah. It all depends on, like, what, like I said, I mean, that’s a different story. That was an emergency situation, but there’s things, other things that happen. You get tied up. You got to get pulled, you know, got to go see the captain. You got to go, you’re in R&D, dealing with something, and then you don’t get to close out. Especially if you’re doing a double, too. MR. a : Okay. So, in this case, though, in these cases, like, for the morning watch Ops Lieutenant, do they sometimes get relieved and that’s when they work on, oh, I got to get all the, I got to get the activity, or I got to get the daily log and lieutenant’s log up-to-date now? MR. QJ: 9 uh-huh. MR. QJ: | nd then stay behind to do that? MR. a : As far as, well, after you’re relieved? MR. a : It does happen. 145 EFTA00061205

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wo wo 146 bottom line is, as a lieutenant, you should not be leaving and leaving stuff incomplete. MR. a : Okay. And it’s that Op Lieutenant’s responsibility to complete it? MR. a : And then once it’s completed, are they then supposed to send out, n oO send it out to MR. QM: sv =>rybody? i) rt 0 s. The morning w Fy MR. QR: 9 Right. the paperwork. The daily that, if something wasn’t sent out before 9:30, does that indicate to you, you know, you, well, it’s because she hadn’t finished it yet, so she order to finish it? That definitely could be the initialing and dating that? EFTA00061206

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ow oO o wo o No Oo wo ine) 147 MR. a : All right. Thank you. Now, here is the one that we were just talking about, that PF sent out on Saturday, August 10, 2019, at 9:26 a.m. As you’1ll see, this is August 10%. So I just want to draw your attention to a few thin Q fa Friday, August 9°, that starts at 12 a.m., then we get to 8:30 a.m. On this daily activities log, it shows at 8:38 a.m., i. from the SHU, or from Z06-220 UAD to pre-remove. Who would have filled that out? Do you know? MR. a : The Operations Lieutenant. MR. a : At the time? MR. a : Yeah. Day watch operations. MR. QJ: «411 right. So, is it ReD should have called and told the Operations Lieutenant, hey, this person is pre-removed and that’s how, how would they get that information? MR. QJ: No, well, normally, we would do a 38. MR. a : Okay. So, as in, that, he would have been entered in the system at that time, saying remove? MR. QJ: «uh-huh. That would, yeah, EFTA00061207

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Nh Nh Nh N WwW wo WwW wo Ww = oo 3) s le ve the w and then, cause as the inmate to get updated. MR. a : But wouldn’t, I mean, we at 8:38, but at 77 would this be R& doing that, or the Operations MR. ae : No. The day watch Operations Lieutenant would print out a 38. Q ie) +t *) rh rt o fu * MR. a : Basically, we would read off So, would only, so, for rt a p. i) cific thing from 8 a.m. to 4 p.m., is ct J im n ct J 0) HK 1) wo ue} 0 5 wn pb. a Pp be po rt kK ie) Fh h ie) 5 b e] 7 ct a] 5 0 om bh oa rt J Bb 0) ie) ow 3) i) MR. a : Day watch operations. Yes. MR. a : And is that a problem, if EFTA00061208

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ow oO ~—] wo 149 they do that MR. a : I don’t know. I guess now it is, but I don’t -- MR. a : No, no, no. I’m not, I don’t know that it’s a problem or not. MR. a : No, we, we, we, it’s common practice. It’s like, if, you know, we could go back and correct, cause this way, look, also, if an incident happened on day watch, I’m not talking about this incident. If, let’s say, there was a use of force. MR. QJ: uh-huh. MR. a : And that day watch lieutenant is running the use of force team, the oncoming lieutenant could, like, update the log, so that lieutenant could finish what, you know, he or she was doing with the move. MR. a : Okay. But in thi at 8:38, now, he’s listed as pre-removed right 7) case, MR. QJ: «9 uh-huh. MR. Ee : Who do you believe would have entered that? MR. a : It should, in my opinion, it would be the day watch Operations Lieutenant. EFTA00061209

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wo wo 150 MR. a : And then, again, if it’s listed as pre-removed, would they have known, hey, | is gone? He’s not coming back. MR. a : That should be an indicator, MR. ae : Okay. And again, that would have been ia. so || entered this pre-remove. Hey, || a new roommate or and it actually s fa is) =] oO \ Q oO b = =] fw aA oO MR. QJ: | uh-huh. MR. ae : All right. Do you remember anything regarding, I know this is at 3:15 p.m., but it says, “I.M. a. placed on dry cell from ZA. Do you remember anything MR. a: I do not. I don’t recall. MR. a : All right. I’11 show you some emails later. But, this, again, do you Lieutenant that would have entered doing this log. MR. a : Okay. MR. a : That’s the lieutenant’s log. Only a lieutenant is EFTA00061210

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ow oO o wo uw fon) o No Oo wo ine) 151 MR. a : So, if someone after this shift did this, would they have to, like, is there a way to just kind of enter a line in here to do, you know, extra? How would they modify this? Would they have to modify everything or can you just enter in -- MR. a : No. You could add a space. MR. a : Add a space? MR. a : Add a space. MR. Ee : And then do (Indiscernible *01:46:31). MR. a : And then just enter the time MR. Ee : And as far a concerned, that’s actually not an issue, if you’ re if) they go back and correct something or -- MR. a : Not that they go back and correct. If you go back and have to add, because now you’re involved in the thing. Like, let’s say if I was coming on and you were the day watch Operations Lieutenant, I was the evening watch, and I’m relieving you. MR. QJ: Richt. MR. a : And you’re like, hey, we got a use of force going on upstairs. Right? I EFTA00061211

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ow oO wo uw fon) co No Oo wo ine) No got to go run the team. Can you just finish my log? That kind of thing. MR. a : Okay. MR. a : You know? Not so much go back to dot another lieutenant’s I’s and cross another lieutenant’s T’s. MR. a : Okay. MR. a : Just like piggyback off of one another. MR. a : And I’m sorry, I keep leaning in, cause I don’t have glasses. MR. a : No, no, no. I’m sorry. I’m sorry. So, 3:15, there’s this, and this is where the confusing part is. We’re not sure who exactly, so this was your shift. MR. QJ: | uh-huh. MR. a : So, would have this top part been something that you would have added, or then brought over? It does say it up here. So, does this all just get transferred from this space over to here? MR. a : Yes. Uh-huh. And then, anything then has to be added or added or taken away. EFTA00061212

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wo N ins) ine) No = WwW in] e wo Nh Nh = wi Wo MR. a : Okay. So, on this one, it says, “I.M. a . dry cell with staff in R&D.” It says, “Good verbal count announced.” Now, s is where it starts getting a little tricky, because we have to -- MR. a : Uh-huh. Yeah. I had gone home almost at 10:00. This is where, like I said, where the piggyback would be. MR. a : | would go, just and close out, because she would be the one here, when the clear count took place. MR. a : Okay. So, this is where things get a little whacky, because we’re saying, it looks like somebody would ha possibly modified this, especially, see, look. This one is Saturday, August 10, 2019. ing at 12 a.m., duties. The SHU says 73-5. Well, at 12 a.m., it actually came over as 72-5. At 12:35 a.m., minus one SHU not keyed out of SHU -- MR. QJ: 9 uh-huh. EFTA00061213

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ow oO wo wo MR. a : -- until 12:35, although he was removed at 3:15 p.m. We’re going to get into the counts now, but all these counts are off. That’s not what the counts were. MR. QJ: 9 uh-huh. MR. a : The counts were actually plus one for all of these, although they should have been, these should have been the accurate MR, Ee : It came over, on the counts, these are listed a 73, 73, 72, 74, 75, 7] 76. MR. a : Always one more. MR. a : Right. And it’s because this was corrected to go back down to 72-5, and this was 73. So, I’m just trying to piece this together. Would that be, why would have she done that, if she has got listed that there was this correction, why would have she gone back and changed all that stuff? she didn’t want to go back and change it. I H don’t know. Maybe cause don’t know. I can’t -- MR. Ee : Does that make sense to EFTA00061214

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= wi uw , though? 2 MR. QJ: i can’t answer. 4 and this list is does that make 6 MR. a : No, I would want to go back 7 and verify everything, because then if the 8 count is not right. I would want to ensure 9 that the count is right i by a b i a iQ o rt U oO bh 0) ct it) Q Oo 2 MR. a : I can’t really answer the 3 question, though. I don’t know why it was 4 done. iat is) x @ K oO just to close + oO ct 7 D bh > is) ue] = ct oe a o K o f tT ~ t oO Ph Oo a] 7 instance, here is a, to the lieutenants, it 8 says s from | (Phonetic Sp. *01:50:02) w 20 MR. N C Fs) Okay. N in] know, inmate name. Here is 23 from the captain to you, asking you to use a 24 specific form. It looks like this is a 25 synopsis from | on what actually, I guess, EFTA00061215

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ow oO wo wo transpired. MR. QJ: 9 uh-huh. MR. a : I’m assuming maybe you sent it to him or a . So, here is one that | sent to you on Friday, August 3, 2019, at 6:07 p.m. And this is the, you know, synopsis of what happened. “On August 9, 2019, at approximately 1:40 p.m., SOS i. while assigned to the Special Housing Unit, proceeded to enter the 9 South visiting room. As I walked towards the door, I observed through the visiting door inmate FY attempt to grab an unknown item from his visitor. Once inmate | reached to grab the item, I (Indiscernible *01:50:55) the door and called for a lieutenant. Once I was able to enter the visiting room, I gave inmate | a direct order to walk to the visiting room to conduct a visual search. Inmate JJ complied and a visual search was conducted. Operations Lieutenant was contacted and inmate [Ry was removed from the unit.” So, should have this been listed as 3:15 n p.m., or should it have been listed as 1:40 EFTA00061216

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wo wo No oO N ins) ine] r Ww N Nh ine] uw p-m.? Do you know? MR. a : No, the 3:40 p.m. would be the time that he was placed on dry cell. time of the incident. MR. QJ: 411 right. visual search -- MR. a : This is the time, this is the time of the incident. MR. a : -- but not the time, okay. This is the time of the incident, dry this, cell would have been a different thing. All right. Do you remember, I mean, do you remember at all that incident on that day? MR. a : I don’t recall. It happened so often, so. MR. a : Sure. Now, would p.m. Would have he sent this to you from oy Oo 4 that he sent you this at 7) inside the institution? MR. a : Yeah. It would have been from the computer Email MR. a : Okay. So, if he’s not listed on anywhere He’s listed as leaving at EFTA00061217

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wo wo No oO N ins) ine] r Ww N Nh ine] uw 1:50 p.m. Is it, we’re able to tell where That is very odd. And it all makes sens that he was there at 6:07, because all these emails are going back, you know, use this one. That was at 4:38 p.m., from the captain to you. And from the PA was the one at 3:11 p.m. So, I’m trying to figure out, why was QM) bere at 6:07 p.m.? vn. I don’t remember. I don’t recall. MR. a: But that would have had to have been sent from in here? That’s very odd. I don’t Especially from an officer, right? That’s, yeah. An officer doesn’t have the outside email access. So he was If that came through at that time, that’s on the government computer EFTA00061218

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1 MR. a : Okay. Do you mind just 2 initialing and dating that? Sorry. 3 MR. | : No problem. 4 MR. a : All right. Now, here’ 5 the inmate history move. Just to, so, again, 6 close that loop. So, it shows a. here inmate history quarters. And it shows f wo a (Indiscernible *01:53:05) was brought to the SHU, Z, and then it shows on right next to it. Yeah, I’m just, just give at 0035, that’s when he was moved that stand for? 5 4 a w at ts) the R&D cells. wo a3 So, RO1 is the R&D cell 20 MR. QR: 9 uh-huh. n 21 MR was 22 keyed out does 23 correspond to that, 12:35 a.m. 24 MR. a : Yeah, he was probably never 25 punched out, and they, 7 probably ghost- EFTA00061219

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wo wo N ins) ine) r Ww N : Nh counted him. initialing and dating that? MR. oO, Okay. just Thank sir. All right. Now, we’re going to go these, just while these lieutenant sheet up, kind of go right. So, here we got the 8/ or, sorry, Bureau of Pris is the E-1, VR. a: the E-1, at what does the number 6 show this guy and see All right. Okay. the Now, what does 10 South. 10 South? MR a : Wait, what, I’m sorry, ce] that’s 9 All right. So, on daily, on the daily lieutenant’ it wo log, Ss do you mind you into are what the what? the shows EFTA00061220

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ow oO o wo wo 77/5, and on the E-1l, it shows 77 for ZA and 5 for ZB. And we go, we look at the corresponding count slip for ZB. It says 5. For ZA, it says 77, correct? MR. QJ: 9 Yeah. . a: initialing and dating that? MR. BMJ: ost Thank you, sir. Okay. So, now this is where All right. Mind just a at the 5A one? wi h. All right. wu we start getting a little bit into the weeds here. So, this is the 4 p.m. count, correct, shows for ZA, there is, it says for the census column 76, for the count, 75. And is that because one is -- here. Look. One is keyed out, right conference. Thi MR. I: Yep. you had one out count and two attorney i) Atty right here? Is attorney conference, so conference. Right here, one is from attorney EFTA00061221

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wo wo MR. a : So, Epstein is in attorney conference. We got one there. So, *01:56:10) count in should have been 75 or hat should that have ng at this E-1l - MR. a : The E-1 is showing that he was in attorney conference. MR. a : Right. So, should this number on the lieutenant’s log have said 75 or 76, based upon this? Should it hav iti) uw fw Bb Q cr is B a) 76 number or should it -- MR. a : It’s whatever this is. MR. a: So, this should have said 75, as of this -- look at the corresponding. ZB shows ZA 75 EFTA00061222

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ow oO wo uw fon) wo No oO ine) uw MR. QJ: «411 right. So, the 10 p.m. count, good verbal announced. What does MR. a : 72, so the daily lieutenant’s log says 72 here, but this says MR. a : Okay. Do you know why that would be? MR. a : I don’t know. There might have been somebody, math was messed up, as far as the lieutenants. As long as this is right, 73) and this jives with the officer’s counting in the units, that’s what matters. That means we don’t have an escape. This, you know, people, I’m not the greatest mathematician in the world. MR. a : Okay. MR. QM: | vou know, you make a, what’s the word, an arithmetic mistake. MR. a : Sure, sure. Do you believe, though, this would have said 3, on the next day? MR. a : I mean, it should. If there EFTA00061224

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wo wo 20 Nh a N in] N rox) 24 MR. QJ: 11 right. s gone now. So here’s R&D. We get 1. But on you're the, where would it have shown R&D on this? MR. a : Wherever he was keyed out oO fh MR. ae : Would it have been this RA? ve been MR. a : Yeah. It should h ZA. It should have been somewhere over here in this column. MR. a : All right. no, we got a count slip for R&D l. MR. QJ: «Uh-huh. MR. a: But nothing on the E-l, saying there was anybody in there. And then we got we've got ZA, 73. this one says 95 plus 1, Q on top of the R&D 1, and then we go over to the ZA count slip. Or not, sorry. uth plus 1. Sorry. MR. a : That’s why, they ghost- counted him from 9 South in R&D. MR. a : All right. So, if you js, for ZA, s 73 plus EFTA00061227

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2 ow oO ~—] 12 13 14 17 18 19 MR. a : Yes. I don’t know about these two. I know as, when you’re taking the count -- MR. a : Yep. MR. a : -- I normally, that’s how we get the clear count. MR. a : Sure. MR. a : When we do the good verbal by, what we do is, we make one line. When the unit officers call -- MR. QM: On the E-1, right? MR. a : -- we make the one line on the E-l1. Once I get all the paper, cause what we'll do is, like, once I have a good verbal, I do the one line and I see every unit has got a good verbal. That’s when I tell Control, we got a good verbal count at whatever time. And then we say, awaiting paper. And once internal brings down all the count slips, whoever that person is that’s taking the count will have those count slips in front. Not everybody does it. I do it. I would, I’m acrosser. And what I do is I verify everything and that’s when I make my X on the E-1. MR. a : Does this suggest 169 EFTA00061229

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ow oO o wo wo 170 anything to you, though, the fact that every one of these count slips is crossed off, aside from R&D, where there is no one actually on the E-1 -- MR. a : -- and then SHU, which has the 73 plus 1, on the E-1, it say n ~ Oo =] the count slip, it says 73 plus 1, but on the 2. Any, does that indicate anything to you, the fact that those aren’t MR. a : The only thing that jumps out at me is that it might have been somebody else that did these two count slips versus these. MR. Ee : Like someone who was taking the count, like je would would have been the person that, like, crossed these things out? MR. QJ: i don’t recall if he was a crosser or not. MR. a : But who, if it wasn’t K. i. who would it have been? MR. a : At that point in time, it was only him in Control. EFTA00061230

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Ne] WwW wo WwW wo rt = wu n ! I If the lieutenant was in MR. a : All right. Andi there, she would, her name would be here d until over for you? You said you only work d until 10. uld have taken me that MR. : So, | would worked until 6 MR. QJ: «9 t’m trying to, may I? olutely. Are 171 EFTA00061231

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wo wo 20 Nh a N in] N rox) 24 MR. a : Yeah, absolutely. So, | | did the 10 p.m., the ones that have the 3 count slips with the 9 South plus 1, and the plus 1. fe did the 12 a.m. count. MR. ae : And the 12 a.m. count is the one where it goes from the E-1 at 10 p.m., the day before, with 73, the 12 a.m. E-1, is 2, and now let’s go slips. ZA, what’s the number on MR. ae : 73. So the count slip says 73 for 12 a.m., but the E-1 says 72. would be? MR. a : Like I said, the only thing that comes to mind is a ghost count. MR. a : Okay. Then the RA still you think of why that n wu kK H MR. a : No, cause then there would be, it would be off by plus l. MR. a : And then R&D now has 1 in = ~l Wo EFTA00061233

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ow oO o wo co No Oo wo ine) = ~l uw lieutenant only has to do one count on a shift. MR. Ee : Sure. And is there any indication that anybody on here did anything, other than ma: MR. QJ: «=No. That’s his -- MR. a : Okay. And then again, N Hed MR. GJ: zp? MR. ae : ZB says 5. And RA says 1 and 1. MR. QR: | uh-huh. MR. ae : And again, there are the corresponding count slips now. The count slips for ZA do say 72, and ZB says 5, and the RA MR. a : -- the 5 a.m. count. Same deal. We don’t need to go into the rest of them for this. So, does this indicate to you for all, does this indicate anything to you for all of this? Does it indicate that they weren’t conducting their counts at all? Let’s take this out of the picture and let’s directly focus on the E-1 and the count slips here. The fact that at the 10 p.m. count, they’re listed EFTA00061235

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10 11 12 13 14 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 73. The count slip says 73 plus 1. And then the 12 a.m. says 72. Count slip says 73. And then on the daily lieutenant’s log, the guy, a. is keyed out at 035 hours, because he was keyed into the SHU the whole time. MR. QJ: 9 uh-huh. MR. a : And then everything is, from that point forward, is corrected to 72. So he was never present in the SHU. We have got the 10 p.m. and the 12 a.m. counts, we both have count slips for, saying that he’s there in RA, and somehow, their numbers, there is only 72 people in the SHU. So the count slips are showing 73 people. There’s only 72 people in there. The E-1 at 10 p.m. says 73, even though there’s only 72 people in there. MR. a : Two. MR. a : The E-1 at midnight does show 72, but that’s only because at 12:35 -- MR. QJ: tt was corrected. MR. a : It was corrected. And the count slip says 73, although there were only 72 people in there. Does that indicate to you that the people in the SHU were just basically going off of what the E-1 should have EFTA00061236

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ow oO o wo uw fon) co No Oo wo ine) said, versus counting it themselves? MR. a : It’s possible. I mean, I know that they are charged with falsifying documents. MR. a : Yep. MR. a : I know they say that they did not conduct a count, so I guess so. I guess that’s what they, I don’t know. MR. ae : How would have they gotten the number 73? So, 73 is what i i) e) 5 ct a oO E-1. ve. i: MR. a : There is only 72 people 73 on the a 7 ia Cc 5 in the SHU. But they’re listing count slip. MR. a : It could have been easily, in my opinion, it could have been easily as they were going off of the SHU locator, and the locator wasn’t corrected. MR. QJ: | what’s the SHu locator? MR. a : It’s basically a chart with the cell assignments and the inmates names and numbers written in it. So, basically, you have what inmates are in where. Right? MR. Ee : So, it’s like a document? EFTA00061237

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ow oO wo uw fon) co No Oo wo ine) No MR. a : It’s not, like, an official BOP thing. It’s something that was brought, it’s like made in Word. It’s basically like, almost like a blueprint. But it’s of, it will have the cells, and it will state what names, like, the SHU staf Ph use it to also, when they’re doing the showers, right, they’1l mark off who got their showers. MR. QR: okay. MR. a : And everything like that. MR. a : Is that something that MR. a : That’s only, that’s MR. a : Does the E-1l people, does a > Zz ie} rt i) < 0) K te o ie) Q fe Z my n a] a Q 0) 7] ifs ct Oo MR. a : So, the thing, though, that, if they’re using this thing that you just, what did you call it again? MR. a : The locator. MR. a : So, if they’re, the SHU staff is using a locator, does the people in Control have access to that locator? EFTA00061238

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S) Nh N N Nh S) wo co wo WwW MR. a : All right. And then some SHU could have had acc s to, what are the people in the Control utilizing? yntrol have the E-1 acce tr] 3S. MR. QM: 4.11 right. ybody has full MR. a : All right. this 10 p.m. count, do you know if, so who, on the ZA count slip, it says FY and Noel, correct? MR. a : That’s initely a. Yeah, Noel, all right. I don’t know what I’m looking at. I’m sorry. I don’t have my fu aders. o MR. a : I do not know if they had EFTA00061239

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ow oO o wo uw fon) o No Oo wo ine) 181 MR. a : But you hadn’t heard about the 4 or 10? MR. a : I was told that at 10:00, not that I was told, from what I heard, at 10:00, he was alive MR. a : Okay. Again, though, going back to this lieutenant -- MR. a : Do you want me to sign this? MR. ae : Yeah. I’m going to hav you do that now. Going back to these lieutenant logs, do you know why, how that could be off, too, though, if the E-1 and the at l o Ww count slips are all saying 7 ) p.m., why would they be writing 72 here? MR. a : Honestly, I don’t know. Like I said, some people are better in math than others. It could be just a simple is the one that corrected | being out, and then she doesn’t send the activi daily log out until 9:30 a.m. Do you think that she would have gone back in there and EFTA00061241

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ow oO wo uw fon) wo No oO ine) MR. a : I don’t know. I don’t know. MR. a : Would have she been authorized to do that? MR. a : No. I don’t know. I can’t answer that question. I have, I’m not -- MR. es : But you had mentioned that people can go in and (Indiscernible MR. a : It can be done. You can go back and do it. MR. a : Now, should she hav correction, to make sure that everything was right with the count. MR. QJ: and that’ MR. a : Which we, you know, we all try to look, you know, to better, at the end of what I mean. i) the day, remember, accountability is the most important thing. MR. a : Yeah, yeah. MR. a : So, we would try to make sure that it’s there, and it’s not to, like, cover up or anything like that, cause at this ’ point in time, nothing was wrong. So, you’re EFTA00061242

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ow oO ~—] wo 10 12 13 14 not covering up anything. And at that point in time, once that happened in the morning, she wouldn’t have been able to do this anyway, cause the FBI was already here, taking everything. MR. a : Well, if someone says that at 9:30, well, this is all, this i b all 7) done electronically, right? She sent this out electronically? MR. a : You get, have to email that, MR. a : Right. And is it my understanding that this is actually created in, like, a Word document, that is in a shared folder? MR. a : It’s in the shared folder. It’s in, but only lieutenants have access to that. MR. QJ: | Right. MR. QJ: | And the captain. MR. a : So, if someone is in that shared folder, and they can tell, someone is modifying that thing right now, and it’s at, like, 9:30. MR. a : Oh, well, that’s the thing. 183 EFTA00061243

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wo wo No oO N ins) ine] r Ww N Nh ine] uw But if there is, only one person can be in there at the time. MR. a : If I try to go into that log program and another lieutenant was on it, I Right. wouldn’t be able to. captain notices that someone is in there, Right. So, if the modifying that log -- Uh-huh. MR. a : -- at that time, is that MR. a : I’m sure that would bring, like, flag something. The captain would be, like, what’s going on? Right. Yeah. MR. a : But, okay. But if you were a. and you were the one modifying this thing, and you are going back and basically, you know, changing this stuff, do you think that would be acceptable? Or should hav she left it as it was and just left her one saying 73, I corrected it, brought it back to 72 and left the day before, the August EFTA00061244

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wo wo 20 Nh k N in] N rox) 24 wo * date alone and just stuck with August 10*? MR. a: I believe so. MR. a : You believe she should have just stuck with August 10? I do my own things. Right. H ct it) 5 0 rt 3 ia 4 fe) oO ct fe) 0 fe) ia K i) 0 rt All right. And do you believe there would be something wrong with her doing that, though? Going back to Au MR. a : You know, it’s something that we have always done that, you know, from first time. I personally don’t like correcting other people. MR. a: But you mentioned it would have been that, if you yback off each other. MR. a: Something came up. She = oo uw EFTA00061245

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10 11 12 13 14 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 (Indiscernible *02:14:29). MR. QJ: 9 Like I said, like, for instance, I go home at 10, right? She is relieving me at 10, but there is still going to be a good verbal and a clear count after I’m gone. MR. a : And that’s true. MR. a : But then she would have to go —- MR. Ee : She’s actually starting on August 9t, MR. a: She would have to be going back into mine in order to put the, clear the count, because she can’t put 10:30 good verbal and 10:45 clear count on her log, cause it’s after midnight. Does that make sense? So, she will go, like, things like that, you piggyback. Just like if, like, we end up, we do the two hour relief thing, you know, you got to, you Piggyback, but otherwise, I don’t go back to, like, correct another person. That’s me, personally. MR. Ee : But she did start on August 9°, and what you’re saying is you don’t find it problematic that she did correct EFTA00061246

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wo wo something? You don’t think there’s anything wrong with it? You just wouldn’t have done it? MR. a : I wouldn’t have done it MR. QJ: Right. vn. a: nothing wrong with what she did. MR. a : Did you want to talk about these anymore, about the lieutenant logs? MR. a: No. We covered it. MR. a : All right. Okay. MR. a : I don’t know if there is a certain order I’m supposed to -- MR. a: No, yeah, I just keep it, I kept them in order. They’re all in order of tw ut I don’t think there’s the count i) Thank you for initialing and signing eve And we had to go past that, so, this would be, thank you, sir. MR. a : You’re welcome. have got. All right. So, we have only got two more documents or something. So, these are the, what are these? MR. a : These are the round sheets. EFTA00061247

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wo wo No oO N ins) ine] r Ww N Nh ine] uw Would that be where Epstein was housed for And did you say you had heard conducted? MR. a : Well, like, for instance, case in point, I don’t know who this is, but I wouldn’t have, when I made rounds, unless he made rounds around this time, or prior to this time, these were never finished. if you didn’t go do the round, who, do you oO believe, would have gone in and actually signed off on that? MR. a : It would be the either/or. I don’t recognize -- MR. a : Does that look like -- MR. a : I know this is me. did a round in there? MR. a : I did the rounds somewhere, no, wait a minute, is this me? MR. a : I thought you did the round. actually 7) EFTA00061248

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wo wo MR. a : | did make the round in SHU. I don’t know why I’m, I don’t know why my signature is on here. MR. a : That is your signature, MR. QJ: 9 It looks like my MC. But I didn’t make rounds in SHU. I know that. I t make the evening watch rounds. MR. a : Shoot. I didn’t print off the list for the lieutenants, is your signature MR. QJ: 9 that looks like my Mc. MR. a : And would have you had to SHU to do that? have gone to MR. a : Yes, I would have had to have, and I didn’t make rounds up there that night. MR. a : Any idea how that would have gotten on there, if you didn’t, you weren’t in there? MR. QJ: «No. =No. I don’t. MR. a : Do you know if anyone asked you after the fact to sign off on Qa something? MR. a : Not necessarily. No. But I = co ve] EFTA00061249

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ow oO o wo wo know I didn’t make rounds up there, but that looks like my MC. And this is the first I’m seeing this. MR. Ee : Yeah. It does look exactly like what you have been doing. I didn’t even notice that before. So, this is your signature on the 8/9/2019 -- MR. QJ: «9 uh-huh. MR. ae : -- 30 minute check sheet, but you did not visit the SHU on August 9°? MR. a : No. I did not make rounds. My Activities Lieutenant made rounds that night. MR. Ee : Would it have anything to do with the fact that she was an Acting Activities Lieutenant? MR. a : I mean, no, because I don’t remember, I don’t recall signing the round sheet for that shift. MR. QJ: Cause it looks like all of, it looks like all of them are you, right? MR. a : Well, some, one thing right here, too, it’s not signed off on here, either. MR. a : So the bottom aren’t signed off on. Well, who -- EFTA00061250

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10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 MR. a : The morning watch went, upon | coming in, oh, you know what? I’m not, I don’t remember doing it, but the only thing I could think of is when it gets picked up, but the thing is, this don’t get picked up, it don’t get sent down until morning watch. So, I don’t, I don’t remember, I really don’t remember signing that. But I really don’t remember signing that, and it looks like the morning watch lieutenant didn’t sign, either. Cause then if you look at this, I wouldn’t have signed, if I saw rounds not done. Remember, I said that earlier. MR. QJ: | So does this at all look like it could have been, like, cut and paste or why, why would that be modified? MR. a : I don’t know. MR. a : Do you have any reason to believe that that is not your signature? MR. a : I don’t recall signing it, but that looks like my MC. I always initial. I don’t ever fully sign. I always do the MC, as you can see, I do the MC in the circle. Yeah. Yeah, I don’t, I don’t know. I don’t recall. I don’t recall signing it, but that is 191 EFTA00061251

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ow oO ~—] wo 10 12 13 14 my signature. I didn’t make rounds. The only thing I could, I could assume is maybe | asked me to sign because she made the round, but she is not an actual lieutenant. But I don’t recall. MR. a : But would have she had, like, literally have been allowed to bring, take the -- MR. a : No. No. That’s the thing. They can’t leave the unit until morning watch. This gets sent down for the morning watch. MR. QM: 4.11 right. MR. a : Like, when FY came in for Saturday morning watch -- MR. QM: uh-huh. MR. a : -- this, after midnight, between 11:30 and 12 is the last round for the evening shift. Then this gets sent out. That’s why I’m looking at this, look, it’s on this one. It’s on this one, but where is it here? It’s not here. It’s not here. So, what, was one tier, two tiers done and not the other? There’s six tiers up there. MR. a : And they’re all for 8/9/2019? So, we got some kind of discrepancy EFTA00061252

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wo wo 20 N ins) ine) WwW No e Nh Nh uw going on with these. MR. a: I don’t remember signing MR. ae: (Indiscernible *02:21:12). MR. a : And you would, you would have signed it before 10 p.m.? Before you I uy) Fh rt MR. a : Yeah. Before I left. MR. a : So you don’t remember ever visiting the SHU? MR. a : I might have been up in the SHU, like, to move an inmate or whatever you, or like, to lock somebody up, but I don’t even remember if I did or not, honestly. I remember. MR. a: Do you believe that you MR. a: I don’t remember signing it. the round sheet and I know ma made rounds I’m asking is, what is So, this one still says 8 = wo Wo EFTA00061253

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wo wo N ins) ine) r Ww N : Nh ine] ul yuth. MR. a : But 10 South, you got t go through the SHU to get to 10 South. ie] aw ay O Bb if] that person? don’t recognize it. It could be a . It looks like an R and something else. So, do you believe that do you believe that you did /2019 count sheet? Right. Right. MR. a : I could have very well -- what I’m asking s, like, do we now have to look into, oh, 0 rap, this stuff might have been, like, copied "oO and pasted and put onto something else? I don’t know. Well, actually, I don’t know. I I just don’t, I do not, I can tell you I do not remember signing it, but I do remember, I did not make rounds in §S don’t remember signing it. I don’t. MR. QJ: 411 right. I’m not sure. I don’t know. I don’t remember signing it. = oO EFTA00061254

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wo wo No oO N ins) ine] r Ww N Nh ine] uw = wo uw MR. a : All right. So, your signature is on these, but you don’t recall signing it, and you did not do rounds? MR. a : I did not make the round in MR. a : So, if you didn’t do a round in SHU, were you off, could have yo signed it? MR. a : What do you mean? Wait, I’m MR. a : So, you signed it, saying that you did a round, but you didn’t actually do a round? MR. a : I didn’t make the rounds in SHU. And I don’t remember signing this. MR. a : Okay. MR. a : Could I have signed it, like, hey, you missed a signature? Possibly. But I don’t remember signing it. Cause I know I didn’t make rounds that night. MR. a : Right. So, your signature is on there, saying you did a round, but you did not do rounds? EFTA00061255

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10 11 12 13 14 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 MR. a : Huh-uh. But I didn’t, I wasn’t there. I didn’t make the round in SHU. MR. a : Why do you clearly remember that you didn’t go in the SHU that night? MR. a : I’m sorry? MR. a: Why do you remember that you never went -- MR. a : Because I was trying to hire overtime for the morning watch shift most of the night. At that point in time, with how short we were lieutenants, and how short we were staffed, an Operations Lieutenant would spend at least four hours a shift, trying to just fill the overtime. And I remember, cause I even, I think, if I recall correctly, I remember, I even mandated Noel to work in SHU that night, for the overnight. MR. aa: So you think you spent most of the time in the office, trying to -- MR. QM: ves. I was doing the roster, trying to fill the roster when Bullock said, hey, I got it, Lou. I’1l take Epstein upstairs, the night before. MR. a : Do you think anyone could have filled your signature in? EFTA00061256

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ow oO o wo wo this is your signature? MR. a : I believe it’s my signature, but I just don’t remember signing that. I don’t. MR. a : And you don’t remember even going to the SHU. MR. a : I didn’t make rounds that evening, no. MR. ae : And you don’t remember actually even going into the SHU that -- MR. a : Not that I recall. No. MR. ae : So that’s (Indiscernible *02:25:05) like how could have your signature got on there? MR. a : You would have to, you would have to, you would have to review the cameras, but I don’t recall signing this paper. And I know I didn’t make rounds, because even when I went in with you guys in the FBI and the AUSA, she even told me QJ name before I even said it. I said, my Activities Lieutenant made n rounds that night in SHU, and she said, that’s Acting Lieutenant, Ms. FY a. I said, you are, I said, correct. I still recall, I recall that interview. EFTA00061258

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S) Nh N N Nh Nh wo wo ie] WwW = wo Ve) MR. a : So, because this has such a high level focus now -- MR. a : -- this is something that s actually, unfortunately, brand-new to us -- somehow resolve that. MR. QJ: | uh-hun. MR. a : Do you have any, any kind of explanation to how that could have happened en? You didn’t do rounds in SHU. You never ct a 0 went in the SHU, and you could only sign oO oO =] this document from within the S MR. QJ: 9 uh-huh. MR. a: And this is the documents that were obtained. MR. a: No, this could get signed in the lieutenant’s office, after it’s collected. MR. a: All right, so this could have been collected -- MR. a : Every night, this gets, the ets sent down to the t six round shee rt n Q i Ph Fh lieutenant’s o QO e. EFTA00061259

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ow oO o wo uw fon) o No Oo wo ine) 200 MR. a : That might have been when I signed it, but this would have, I wasn’t here on morning watch. MR. Ee : What about on August 10*, when you did come back from the hospital? You came back, right, on August 10*? MR. a : Yeah. I was here the whole day. I didn’t go home. I don’t remember exactly, but I know it was, like, around 4:00 ish, 5:00 ish, when I got home, when I left. MR. Ee : So, I mean, it doesn’t look like, these things look like they were taken right away, you know? MR. QJ: 9 uh-huh. MR. QJ: after Noel -- MR. a : That might have very well been what happened. MR. a : That you signed it the next day? MR. QM: «I might have signed it when it was sitting on the lieutenant’s office pile. MR. a : All right. Can you give me the 4 p.m. count again, now that you’re saying that it’s sparking my memory that people are saying that other documents weren’t signed, Q EFTA00061260

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1 MR. a : | took the count. 2 MR. QJ: Okay. And you didn’t 7 MR. ae : I’m not sure. I don’t 8 remember. I don’t remember. wo a But so at 4 p.m., you 0 were from 2 to 10. || was only until 2. And this is the 4, so shouldn’t you have signed 3 MR. a : I could, I could have been cause I 5 signed this one right here. I signed that, I gned that out count. 7 MR. a : So what is this one that 8 doesn’t have a signature? What is that for? MR . a : This one right here? That’s 20 the total out count and there was one cadre wo a3 Nh C Fh K Oo 3 c b w Oo i= ct a O Cc ct that one N in] Fs) Okay. N rox) oesn’t have a signature, but the fourth page Q 24 does and that’s your signature, you said? 25 MR. a : That’s me. EFTA00061262

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You can have 4 p.m., if 5 at 2. Both of them were gone at 2. But that’s 6 not me. That’s definitely not me. You see, I 7 do the M, the M circle everywhere. 8 MR. a : So, is | the one that would have provided this to somebody to wo 11 MR. a : Yeah. She would have given 2 the out count to the Operations Lieutenant. 3 MR. a : All right. So we have to sk F who signed this? 5 MR. a : Yeah. Cause I don’t know 16 who that is. I don’t know whose signature that wu 8 MR. a : And none of these people working that day look like wo 12) 3 7 i) ‘ o rt J wu ct wu K oO 20 anybody that that could, that would have the Nh a N in] Fs) 2 12) H io” i) K @ w KK 0) ie) 5 BP ke ct fs) N WwW ie} 1) Oo 3 be @ ~ + J D A D wu 8 o rt y @ 2) =] my he ry U “+ =e @ Nh ie) wu re} rt wu a =) ct a o bh b- @ Gc rt i) 5 wu 5 ct U wu o Q = a myself are the only people. I mean -- Nh uw "So EFTA00061264

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No i=) uw 3 MR. a : An acting, an acting 4 lieutenant could sign, if they’re in that 5 capacity, but she was still attorney conference 7 MR. QJ: 4.11 right. 8 MR. a : So, I don’t know whose wo n b- o wu ct i] 4K Oo ct a nf] rt f fr] 3 for the official out count. Is this weird to 4 you at all, this, the fact that somebody else’s 16 MR. a : Yeah. I don’t know who the e I know I didn’t sign it. And I 7 fuck, cau 7) 8 know, this was probably just a slip of the, I wo forgot to sign it, the other one. 20 MR. QJ: | ub-huh. Nh b aw @ H @ caus N Nh i) fa wn i) N oy a MR. a : So the one, so one is 24 that you were supposed to have signed was 25 signed by someone else, and ther one looks EFTA00061265

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wo wo I forgot. MR. a : So, it would have been J. No. Smalls was the one that is the R&D, coming from R&D MR. a : So who would have provided this you, to sign it? MR. a : Yeah. MR. a: But in sounds like she didn’t? MR. a : No. I don’t know. I don’t remember if she didn’t. to me right off th 0) bat, or if I jus o sign it. It could be, I forgot MR. a : But I don’t know who that is on that other one. I don’t even, it looks like, it just looks like a squiggly line. MR. a : So, on the 4 p.m. count, after the E-1l, so tt on the third page, 206 EFTA00061266

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ow oO ~—] wo 10 12 13 14 ma) No i] you forgot to sign. On the fifth page, fourth page, you did sign. Seventh page, shows the official count from R. a. That is not your signature. All right. And then the last one is you as well. MR. a : I signed. Uh-huh. MR. QM: | which is the official out count from the hospital. So, the attorney conference room, you got to figure out whose signature that is. And no one would have been authorized, as you know -- MR. a : A lieutenant is supposed to sign the out count. MR. Ee : But it could have been a lieutenant? But there are, as far as you know, there is no other lieutenants that were actually even in the building at that time? MR. a : Unless this was done before, an out count has to be in 45 minutes prior to the count. So that means it would have had to be done no later than 3:15. Unless that was done before || went home, I don’t know. MR. Ee : But it doesn’t even look like it would be a a. MR. a : It doesn’t. EFTA00061267

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N cs) oo 1 MR. a : a: Oh, that could 3 MR. a : I don’t know, it just, it 4 looks like a squiggly line. But that’s 5 definitely not my signature. You have been 6 watching me sign papers all this interview. I 8 MR. a : Yeah, no, I know it’s not That’s what I’m just trying to figure wo ° =] 5 it) 11 MR. a : Yeah. Yeah. I don’t know. 2 MR. ae : No, there’s no question. 3 It’s not yours. Do you remember that day, ou came in at 2? 4 though, you’re positive y a) I don’t even know why it oy n fw kK ts) 5 | Q Cc 7) ct Oo ion het om oO KK @ J 5 Somebody indicated that 8 someone manipulated that, and that it wo say non-custody. 20 MR. QJ: «1 was custody at the time. somebody, somebody N C Fs) wn is) N ho a i] wn ct 12) p QQ c un ~ o Oo @ a 5 rt 3 fw i oO wu =] wn i) =] OF) 1) rt + fu rt N rox) ct a i) 5 0) U an NC there. Do you agree with that? Nh i I agree 100% there. It i) uw Oo c an oh os mw 0 rt nf] bh ish bp would have said nothing. EFTA00061268

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210 1 time. Yeah. 2 MR. a : All right. So, okay. So 3 we can’t put any real credence to NCs when we 4 see the, based upon the print (Indiscernible counselor, February 2020 wo 8 hospital to make sure staff weren’t bothered by wo media, while his body was there. “Today, I am 20 DW Ops.” Nh a N in] N rox) Nh for recollection that you actually worked those Nh uw a wu 7] = i] K fi} you go. So, here is something, EFTA00061270

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wo wo 20 N ins) ine) WwW No e Nh Nh uw out at the same time, but otherwise, they’re in two separate rooms. MR. a : So they’re not even SHU cell, the SHU cells, the attorney conference cells for the SHU inmates are the in with MR. a : Did you have any involvement with that initial July 2 1] heard any rumors about PY attempting to harm Epstein? MR. a : No. I heard that he was helping him. He is the one that notified the i: Ph staff that he needed help. N rar No EFTA00061272

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That’s what I heard. N es) So, you didn’t hear g about him trying to harm Epstein? WwW On the street. 5 And what -- 6 People talking shit 7 Do you think -- 8 And I’m not even talking 9 I’m talking abo you 0 know how much shit, pardon my langu -- Yeah. No WwW a -- I know we’re on camera -- Yeah, yeah. : -- on tape here, do 5 how much 6 known me wo oy) don’t, don’t even 2 MR. a : Do you think kind of a claim, saying that Nh empted to harm Epste 25 MR. a : I don’t know. I’m not in 213 EFTA00061273

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10 11 12 13 14 16 17 18 19 the cell with them. MR. Ee : Okay. But from any information that you have received, do you have any reason to believe? MR. a : No. I know, from what I know of a. he’s trying to beat his case. He’s trying to fight his case. Sol don’t think he would want to add any undue thing to his case. MR. Ee : Okay. Okay, so I’m just going to, so this was after the fact, on Friday, August 16, 2019, the captain, | of people, it looks like all the lieutenants, to include yourself. It just says, “Lieutenants, there has been a significant change concerning the placement of inmates on suicide watch at MCC. Starting 8/16/19, when an inmate expresses intentions to physically harm themself or behavior warrants placement on watch, please make sure the captain is notified immediately by phone. If inmate companions are needed to sit on the inmate, the overall approving authority is the warden. Inmates will no longer be able to remain on SHU bed EFTA00061274

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10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 space, so there should be an initiative to have adequate bed assignments available in the Special Housing Unit.” So, were people that were attempting to harm themselves previously not being referred to suicide watch, are you aware? MR. a : No. As a matter of fact, if I, I, at one point in time, if I felt like a new intake, if I was, let’s say, Operations Lieutenant on an off-shift, and we didn’t have Psychology here, if I felt they were a threat to themselves, I would put them on watch, and then all I would have to do is notify Psychology. MR. a : Okay. MR. a : Like, I would wake up the on-duty psychologist at home and say, hey, doc, I’m putting inmate Schmukatelli on observation. MR. QJ: 411 right. So, the only change here was that the captain wanted to be notified? MR. a : Yes. I believe so. MR. Ee : All right. And he wasn’t notified prior to that time, is that what he’s saying? 215 EFTA00061275

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wo co wo WwW MR. a : He wasn’t, he didn’t have to on o MR. a : As long as we notified people were, e in practice. It’s a change MR. a : For the 9% and 10°, I know we have been keeping you awhile. Just want to finish up ques MR. a : (Indiscernible *02:38:42). understanding of what happened to Epstein on August 9*° and 10%, 2019? MR. a : My understanding is that he committed suicide. he hung up. 216 EFTA00061276

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ow oO o wo wo N rar ~ MR. a : Is that, you understand of how he died was from suicide and hanging? MR. a : That’s what I understand. MR. a : Okay. Do you have any information with regard to any suspicious activity that occurred on August 9% or 10*, 2019, leading up to the discovery of Epstein in his cell? MR. Ee : I’m just going to go over ues and just ask you if you have any information on it. So, we just talked about his first suicide attempt on July 23, 2019. Are you aware if Epstein was placed on suicide watch after that? MR. a : I’m not sure. I’m not 100% sure. I think he was placed on observation after that incident. MR. QM: Okay. MR. a : If I’m not mistaken. MR. a : And is observation, suicide watch, are they basically the same thing, just a matter of, if you give your clothes or not? EFTA00061277

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2 ow oO ~—] 12 13 14 17 18 19 MR. a : It’s a matter of the clothing. Observation, they were allowed to have their regular attire on, with an inmate companion. Suicide watch, they were in the smock and had the, like, the sleeping bag, the suicide sleeping bag. MR. a : And that is outside of the SHU, correct? MR. a : That is outside of the SHU. MR. Ee : What floor is that? MR. a : In the event, in the event that suicide watch on second floor was overbooked, overfilled, we would do suicide watch in SHU, but it would be a staff member watching. MR. Ee : Okay. And is it your understanding, though, that Epstein was removed from the SHU and placed on either suicide watch or psychological observation after the initial incident on July 23*¢? MR. a : I’ve seen him down on suicide watch and observation on the second floor. MR. a : So, you actually did see him there? EFTA00061278

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ow oO o wo co No Oo wo ine) 219 MR. a : Yes. That’s where I fed him. MR. a : Okay. MR. a : Cause lieutenants have to feed the inmates. MR. a : Oh, so that notation of feeding on this was actually not regarding the MR. a : It was probably, it might have, it may have been in the SHU, if he was a lieutenant hold at the time. But when he was on observation, I have fed him down there. MR. a : Okay. So you had interaction with him when he was actually on -- MR. a : Yeah, basically just, as fé as opening the slot, handing him his food wu r collecting his trash, locking the slot, you okay? You okay? Okay. And, can I talk to the Psychology Department? Go get the psyche. MR. a : Anything tha you that was cause for concern? MR. QJ: 9 No. MR. a : No? Anything more than can you get me this or get me that? ct y oO a) wu = ion rt ie} EFTA00061279

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wo wo institution or transferred, correct? MR. a: No. No. Yes. Ye Correct. MR. a : And no one told you? its] MR. ae : Aside from that email? MR. ae : Aside from the email. MR. a : Okay. And that, again, is that, oh, you already answered it. Do you hing about other falsified counts roto being conducted in the MCC prior to August 10, MR. J: =o. MR. a: Do you believe that counts were being conducted in the MCC, prior to August 9° and 10t, 2019? MR. a : I would hope so. MR. a : Anything about the SHU, though, I mean, if they’re sleeping in the SHU, 0 we have heard rumors that maybe in the SHU, they were sleeping a lot. Had you heard 1ing about that, them sleeping during their shifts in the SHU? MR. a : What, the staff? MR. QJ: |= yeah. EFTA00061281

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ow oO MR. a : Well, all I could say is this. The staff were walking around like zombies. MR. QJ: | Right. MR. a : These guys and girls were getting stuck four days a week, sometimes five days a week, doing 16 hour shifts. I have never in my career have seen so many write-ups for officers refusing mandates. I have had to write-up countless officers because they refused a mandate, when I told them they had to stay. And then, but at the same time, I didn’t, I felt bad for them. MR. QR: b-houh. MR. a : I really did. Because they were zombies. I was a zombie. And I was only getting hit, like, twice a week. MR. a : Okay. MR. a : And I was a zombie. I’m also pushing 47 now. I’m not a young kid anymore, and some of these kids, 20 something years old, they would literally, they would be standing up and exhausted. MR. a : So people are just too exhausted to do their job, is it? EFTA00061282

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wo wo No oO N ins) ine] r Ww N Nh ine] uw N N lo MR. a : How, I mean, I spent time in the Marine Corps and I remember going hours on three hours of sleep and that was it’s not human. MR. a : Our bodies are not made for they were exhausted and people were sleeping So, being that during their shifts, especially with the focusing in on the SHU. Do you believe that it’s likely that counts weren’t being conducted prior to August 9, 2019? confirm nor deny it. I just hope to God not. MR. a : What about rounds? Do you know if they were being conducted in the SHU prior to that? MR. a : I would hope, once again, I EFTA00061283

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1 MR. a : But you’re unaware for 3 MR. a : I’m unaware. 5 MR. a: I can’t confirm. 6 MR. es : All right. What do you know about the MCC, and particularly the SHU =] i 8 cameras not working o MR. a : I found that out when 0 everybody else did. I honestly didn’t know ugust 9° and 10°, 2019? wo they weren’t working. 2 MR. ae : So, during your, 3 especially on August 9°, when you were working, 4 did anyone ever notify you that the cameras were not recording? + oy a J 5 No. Is there any way for oO R re} Cc 8 to have known? wo 5 No. I don’t know. The only 20 thing, like in the lieutenant’s office and in ine) f ie] O 5 ct a] oO pa O 7@ can see the cameras, but we don’t N ho ~ 3 ie} = po th rt om @ te iad 1) actually recording or not. MR. a : So, there’s nothing to N rox) 24 indicate if they’re recording? 25 MR. a : Like, that’s kept somewhere EFTA00061284

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ow oO ~—] wo No Np uw else, like in the Computer Services people. MR. Ee : Do you know at the time where that was kept? MR. QJ: st think, if I’m not mistaken, there’s one on 3, by the com room, and I’m not sure if there is one down here on MR. a : Do you know if, at the time, do you know if the cameras where the recording would have been kept in the SIS office? MR. a : Well, there’s, where the cameras, like, the hard drives are in the back of where the com room is. MR. QJ: okay. MR. a : Which is part of the whole SIS shop back there. MR. a : So, if someone wanted to knock the cameras offline and intentionally stop them from recording, like, where could have they done that from? MR. a : I’m not 100% certain. I don’t know if it could be done from back there or not. I just know that that’s where the room is. EFTA00061285

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N N N ine) ) Ly S) wo co wo WwW MR. QJ: And do you the ¢ about anyone 0 ny] 3 o 6 a] yu heard any rumors MR. ae : Do you have any kind of, or explanation of w the cameras were not recording specifically in the SHU? MR. a : No? And you hadn’t heard MR. a : Not until I heard it from, you know, what rybody else going on around, like, yo, the cameras didn’t pick anything up. MR. a : Is that surprising to you, for MR. it) gone. This building is decrepit. MR. a : I’m sorry. I can’t put it MR. a : Oh, no. That’s here, is to figure out -- EFTA00061286

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1 MR. a : I’ve been here, listen, I’ve 2 been here 20 out of my 21 years on the job. 3 I’m rounding it off. I mean, I don’t have 4 I’ve seen this place on a 6 I know. What about the They were just recently wo fixed. Now, are phenomenal. 2 lieutenant, I wished the cameras wer 0) fu if) good Mh i) Qa o n 3 as th oO oO y are now. You could actually see 4 of inmates fighting. 5 MR. QM: uh-huh. 16 MR. QJ: and ic before that, you couldn’t. 8 MR. a : Who is responsible for ty Cc rt wo ct J o aQ wu =| @ kR w v 20 MR. QM: =the com room. I’m sorry. Nh b ct t Za oO Q Oo 3 H Oo Oo 3 N in] B ts 5 fon Q Oo would have been at the time? a : Who was here? I think I think a. I’m not sure of who N rox) Nh i ine] ul EFTA00061287

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ow oO o wo uw fon) co No Oo wo ine) N Ws 5 MR. a : Who would be responsible, if he, in the BOP database, the system, he is assigned to a different cell than he is actually physically located? Who would be responsible for making that change within the BOP? MR. a : Oh, within Sentry? MR. QJ: Yeah. MR. a : As soon as the, basically, the SHU Lieutenant would have to n ct w ay up on top of that. MR. QM: so, it’s the sHu Lieutenant’s responsibility for that? MR. a : To make sure that everything MR. Ee : Does Ops or lieutenants or anybody that visits the SHU and do rounds, MR. a : -- when you’re making rounds. Like I said, your predominant, the predominant function of doing the rounds is to make sure the officers are doing their job. EFTA00061290

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ow oO o wo uw fon) co No Oo wo ine) N Ww ars MR. a : Do you have, do you know if Epstein was always in that cell that you described? MR. a : No. Like I said, at one point in time, I think he was down on H tier. I do know -- MR. a : Let’s say, after he returned from suicide watch or psychological A observation, do you know if he was always -- MR. a : I don’t remember. MR. Ee : You don’t remember? MR. a : I don’t remember. MR. a : Do you know if, at lea for the days leading up to August 9, was he in t 17) a H mean, at least a couple of days, I believe, yes. I’m not 100% certain, MR. a : Okay. And you mentioned, this will be the last of the big topics, you mentioned that you knew that Bullock was allowing Epstein to place a telephone call on t 9, 2019? MR. a : Yeah. When I came around to escort him, he said, I got it. I’m going to 7] Augu EFTA00061291

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N ow oO o wo wo N Wo ies) MR. QM: «411 right. Did you find for other inmates before, too. Like, if, let’s No. I mean, we have done it say, you know, oh, I forgot to ask my lawyer, it’s all about, what’s the word I’m looking for? Convenience. If it’s not inconveniencing the person or the time, or if it’s going to be an issue or a security issue, or something like that, and you feel like doing it, you can do it. There’s nothing to say -- MR. Ee : What if Epstein told them that he is actually not calling his lawyer, but he’s calling his -- MR. a: Mother. MR. a : -- mother? MR. a : I don’t know. MR. QJ: sts that at all, do you ractice, to - wu believe that to be an acceptable ue] MR. a : I wouldn’t, I wouldn’t do it. If you’re telling me you need a legal call, you’re going to call your attorney. EFTA00061293

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ow oO wo N ion) MR. QJ: Right. MR. a : I’m not going to put you on with the attorney and then sit there and hear you say, oh, hi, Mom. No. Cause if you tell me a legal call, I’m giving you a legal call. MR. a : Do you know, would have Bullock needed approval to allow him to place a call like that? MR. a : Well, you, Bullock is a unit team member, and unit team would normally do the legal calls for the inmates. MR. ae : Okay. So, would have, if it was a legal call they provided him, but not to his legal team, to his mother, would have he needed to obtain approval for that? MR. a : I don’t know. I’m assuming yes. I don’t know. I never heard of any, I never heard that it was to his mom. I always, he told me, I’m giving him a call. MR. QJ: Okay. So that’s all you know about it? MR. a : That’s all I know about it, and he got on the elevator and brought him up to SHU. MR. Ee : Okay. What do you know EFTA00061294

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ow oO o wo wo N Ww wi about someone else taking Epstein’s life? MR. a : Nothing. Except for the, pardon my language, the BS rumors that you hear out in the media, on social media, and in the public. MR. a : Okay. What do you know about others assisting with taking Epstein’s MR. a : I don’t believe that. MR. Ee : What do you, when you s you don’t believe it, do you know of any rumors wu or -- MR. a : No, I don’t know of anything, and I don’t believe it. I don’t, there is nothing I know about it. And I have seen, not just at MCC New York, you hear about it throughout the Bureau. Somebody could hang themselves, just leaning forward on a bed. And it only takes a couple of minutes. MR. QJ: So, did Epstein take his own life? MR. a : I believe so, yes. MR. Ee : Did Epstein act alone in taking his own life? MR. a : I believe so. EFTA00061295

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10 11 12 13 14 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 236 MR. a : Did you have any involvement with Epstein -- MR. a : Absolutely not. MR. a : What would have prevented Epstein’s death, in (Indiscernible *02:52:11)? MR. a : In all actuality, if he really wanted to commit suicide, nothing would have prevented it, because anybody that really wants to kill themselves can kill themselves. Epstein’s cell overlooked the OIC’s desk. He was watching the staff. He knew when he could and when he couldn’t. MR. a : Okay. So do you think that if they were actually conducting their counts and rounds as they should have, would have that helped in preventing the death? MR. a : It could have helped, but it wouldn’t have totally prevented it, because it just takes minutes to kill yourself. If I wanted to do it, I would wait for you to make your round. I now know, I have 30 minutes to kill myself. It only takes two or three. MR. Ee : What about the fact that he was mandated to have a cellmate, and the cellmate was removed and no one backfilled it? EFTA00061296

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10 11 12 13 17 18 19 Do you think that would have helped? MR. a : Yes or no. Remember what I told you, in 2003. That dude committed suicide and he had a bunkie. MR. a : And then in the same token, though, you said FY was the one that notified them when he attempted the first time. MR. a : Yeah. So, like, yes and no. That’s why I said yes and no. Like, if that inmate is asleep, and let’s say that inmate is a heavy sleeper, Epstein could have strung up while he was asleep. MR. QJ: «Okay. And then this is just the last overall question that I have and then I’1l turn it over. What are some of the systematic problems inside the MCC, and specifically, the SHU that allowed for Epstein to die? MR. QM: 9 t’m sorry. Can you just restate the question? MR. a : So, what are some of the problems in the SHU? We just talked about, obviously, if they didn’t conduct their rounds and the counts as they should have, the SHU EFTA00061297

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10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 238 staff -- MR. QR: 9 uh-huh. MR. a : -- and people didn’t act in order to get him a new cellmate, what are some of the other problems, systematic problems? It sounded like you may have mentioned that people were too tired to work (Indiscernible *02:54:04). MR. a : Well, that’s the only thing I got. Especially at that time. Right now, staffing got a little better. It got a lot better, and staff got put on 12 hour shifts. So, this way, they have more time off. And they can’t get stuck for 16s every day. Right? That’s now. Then, they were tired. They were tired. And you also didn’t, you never had a regular crew. What I mean by a regular crew, you never, you didn’t always have the consistent staff in there. And you had staff that were exhausted, on top of exhaustion. And the SHU unit, in my opinion, always has, when I was even, when I was a SHU officer back in the early 2000s, that was the post. That was one of the most high-profile posts in this building. EFTA00061298

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ow oO wo wo then when you meet back up at the front, I got 15, 15, okay. Then they go to the next tier. Cause I might have 15 and you might have counted 14. We got to redo that count. And then until we both jive, and then go to the next tier, same thing, another tier, another tier, whatever, how many tiers there are in the unit, then we come up with our total number, and that’s what we call into Control. Say, hey, ZA, ; and i. I got 55. Fifty- five is a good verbal. All right. Thank you. Sign the count slip. You sign, I give it to you, you sign the count slip. Send it down to internal to control. MR. a: Nothing from me. MR. QJ: | Nothing? All right. Nothing else? mR. QR: No. MR. a : Any questions for us? MR. EJ: 9 Nope. MR. QM: «411 right. It is currently 12:22 p.m. on Wednesday, August 4, 2021. This is Senior Special Agent | a. and I am turning off the recorder. EFTA00061303

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Ca) Above - 5:14, 95:2, 96:24 Absolutely - 11:19, 13:19, 28:5, 92:23, 171:24, 173:1, 236:3 Absorb - 61:13 Accents - 45:3 Acceptable - 184:2 2, 233:21 Access - 158:20, 178:16, 178:17, 178:25, 179:4, 179:6, 179:7, 179:10, 179:22, 180:5, 183:17 According - 163:18 Accordingly - 5:5 Accountability - 25: 4, 31:5, 31:6, 182:19 Accuracy - 54:1 Accurate - 8:2, 8:5, 23:19, 25:14, 25:16, 39:21, 84:2, 84:24, 98:3, 154:8 Acronym - 25:4 Act - 5:2, 235:23, 238:3 Acted - 113:4, 113:18, 130:4 Acting - 15:1, 15:24, 190:15, 198:23, 205:3 Action - 5:7, 73:11, 132:6, 136:25, 137:1, 138:24 Active - 107:9 Activity - 16:6, 17:4, 22:24, 27:25, 145:16, 217:7 Actual - 11:10, 11:14, 20:1, 21:14, 23:18, 28:7, 50:19, 80:19, 81:9, 91:4, 125:3, 131:3, 135:4, 166:4, 189:14, 192:4, 242:14 Actuality - 236:6 Add - 151:7, 151:8, 11:9, 151:18, 214:8, 241:22 Added - 152:19, 152:24 Address - 7:1, 18:9, 130:11 Addressed - 241:23 Adequate - 215:2 Administration - 10 7 WS - 2:10:14, 210:15 Advance - 33:1, 33:5, 33:12, 34:9, 34:14 Advised - 8:18, 82:12 Afforded - 232:4 Afterhours - 52:23 Afternoon - 41:23, 42:2, 48:13, 135:9 Against - 5:7, 5:17 Agency - 5:10, 137:17 Agent - 3:3, 3:15, 3:22, 3:24, 6:8, 6:11, 8:11, 8:13, 243:23 Agents - 8:20, 82:18, 82:24 Ago - 13:9, 42:22 Agree - 4:14, 5:19, 208:23, 208:24 Ahead - 56:18, 84:8 Ain't - 135:18 Air - 72:7 Alive - 181:5 Alleged - 52:1 Allow - 234:7 Allowed - 192:7, 218:2, 233:3, 237:18, 242:3, 242:8 Allowing - 12:9, 231:22 Almost - 37:11, 48:5, 52:17, 52:20, 143:25, 153:7, 178:4, 240:5 Alone - 114:1, 166:11, 166:12, 174:25, 185:1, 235:23 Along - 83:4 Already - 33:21, 45:25, 80:22, 81:15, 82:7, 85:20, 98:24, 107:17, 141:15, 183:4, 209:7, 220:21, 221:9, 232:7, 232:9 Alternate - 34:24 Although - 154:1, 154:7, 176:22, 220:22 Am - 3:22, 3:24, 4:2, 5:14, 6:6, 35:25, 81:1, 201:11, 210:19, 243:24 Ambulance - 41:17 Amended - 5:2 America - 72:7 Amount - 22:24, 27:25, 143:9 HM - 79:25 Andrew - 8:17 Angle - 89:10, 89:25, 90:2, 90:18, 91:7, 93:15 Annotated - 59:4 Announced - 153:4, 164:2 Another - 15:16, 39:25, 104:4, 125:11, 152:5, 152:6, 152:9, 155:22, 184:5, 185:8, 186:21, 205:25, 242:11, 243:6 Answer - 5:6, 5:8, 5:15, 81:21, 128:5, 128:16, 155:2, 155:12, 182:5, 194:20, 213:17, 213:18 Answered - 46:13, 221:9 Answering - 28:7 Answers - 4:13 Anybody - 34:14, 58:8, 66:18, 66:25, 67:4, 69:22, 90:18, 90:20, 91:5, 105:19, 111:19, 148:23, 167:15, 174:21, 175:3, 204:20, 230:17, 236:8, 240:15 Anymore - 187:9, 222:21 Anyone - 57:15, 79:4, 81:2, 148:21, 189:22, 196:24, 220:9, 220:18, 224:14, 226:2 Anytime - 53:14, 83:5, 108:17 Anyway - 55:13, 85:23, 105:20, 183:3 Anywhere - 157:25 Apologize - 13:18, 39:6 Appear - 197:3 Appropriate - 220:6 Approval - 234:7, 234:15 Approved - 203:16 Approving - 214:24 Approximately - 8: 23, 35:8, 78:17, 109:4, 156:9 Area - 10:1, 45:4, 80:17, 89:15, 90:11 Aren't - 58:21, 67:15, 170:10, 174:14, 190:24 Argument - 112:13, 112:18, 118:18 Arithmetic - 164:21, 181:18 Around - 23:5, 48:5, 68:22, 79:20, 87:4, 188:10, 200:9, 222:2, 226:14, 231:24 Arrival - 44:16, 46:13, 109:9 Arrow - 97:11 a - 8:14 ASAP - 138:21 Aside - 168:25, 170:2, 221:6, 221:7 Ask - 15:10, 64:9, 92:24, 113:14, 204:14, 217:12, 233:7 Asked - 4:13, 4:23, 189:23, 192:3 Asking - 12:8, 37:20, 104:22, 106:18, 118:15, 119:8, 155:23, 193:24, 194:15, 220:13 Asleep - 237:11, 237:13 Assaultive - 53:20 Assessment - 39:2 Assigning - 21:14 Assignment - 13:3, 15:19 Assignments - 177: 22, 215:2, 216:14 Assist - 83:4 Assistant - 8:8, 79:11, 143:7, 155:20, 229:8, 229:9, 229:12, 229:17 Assisting - 235:7 Assume - 38:1, 72:16, 124:8, 192:2 Assumed - 71:22 Assumes - 153:20 Assuming - 15:19, 33:3, 35:10, 35:13, 35:25, 49:6, 55:25, 63:20, 94:11, 107:3, 114:12, 127:16, 156:3, 234:16 Assurances - 4:21, §:13 Ate - 54:24 Attached - 42:18, 42:19, 42:20 Attachment - 122:1 0 Attempt - 22:20, 27:21, 52:1, 58:4, 66:23, 67:2, 156:13, 211:2, 217:14 Attempted - 18:10, 78:19, 213:24, 237:7 Attempting - 212:2 1, 215:4 Attempts - 59:9 Attention - 147:6 Attire - 218:3 Attorneys - 232:7 Attorney's - 8:17 Atty - 161:21 AUSA - 8:9, 8:20, 102:24, 105:25, 198:19 Authority - 204:21, 214:24 Authorized - 182:3, 207:11 Auto - 209:5 Automatically - 209 79, 209:15 Auxiliary - 9:4 Available - 215:2, 240:22 Avenue - 7:2 Awaiting - 169:18 Aware - 22:12, 33:3, 34:14, 34:19, 57:2, 68:23, 83:11, 124:21, 215:6, 217:15 Away - 38:8, 71:18, 79:1, 152:25, 200:13 Awesome - 7:20, 92:4 Awhile - 216:18 Backfill - 15:6 Backfilled - 236:25 Bad - 222:13 Bag - 54:20, 55:1, 55:4, 56:5, 218:5, 218:6 Ballpark - 76:13 Barely - 89:16, 92:19 Base - 25:15 Based - 7:22, 18:11, 162:17, 163:4, 209:23, 210:4 Basis - 4:22, 10:3, EFTA00061305

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§1:22, 58:2 Bat - 206:18 Bayville - 7:2 Beat - 214:6 Became - 17:19, 210:6 Bed - 214:25, 215:2, 235:18 Bedsheets - 43:19 - 78:23 Beginning - 100:24, 101:4 Behavior - 214:20 Behind - 22:1, 145:20, 146:20 Believed - 68:16, 68:18, 112:2 Belongings - 71:23, 71:24, 72:1 Below - 6:8, 6:10 Benefit - 73:6 Better - 38:25, 77:14, 87:1, 181:16, 182:18, 238:11, 238:12 Between - 41:3, 42:17, 42:25, 43:1, 47:18, 144:14, 165:3, 192:17 Big - 93:16, 231:20 Bigger - 52:20 Bin - 103:15, 105:18 Birth - 6:21, 8:16 Birthday - 95:15, 95:17 Bit - 49:8, 161:11 Blackout - 36:19 Blind - 91:13 Block - 197:19 Blueprint - 178:4 Board - 26:22, 96:6, 96:13, 96:17, 96:18, 96:24, 96:25 Bodies - 223:9 Body - 79:3, 81:24, 82:11, 82:12, 210:19 - 62:15, 179:13, 179:15 Book - 19:10, 21:3, 22:1 Books - 82:17 BOP - 8:23, 9:2, 9:7, 9:12, 79:18, 81:18, 102:8, 102:13, 126:25, 141:11, 178:2, 230:2, 230:6 Boss - 34:6, 112:7, 229:8, 229:17 Both - 5:11, 12:19, 13:4, 116:22, 133:19, 134:12, 176:10, 204:5, 224:2, 241:7, 243:5 Bothered - 210:18 Bottom - 146:3, 190:24 Bousy - 128:6, 128:8, 131:14, 131:15 Box - 98:14, 130:12 Boxes - 52:25 Brain - 24:16 Brand - 199:5 Briefed - 60:22 Bring - 52:3, 53:7, 55:4, 80:22, 125:5, 134:21, 184:13, 192:7, 232:1 Bringing - 54:6 Brings - 169:19 Broad - 217:12 Brooklyn - 45:2, 45:5 Brought - 44:11, 47:20, 48:4, 48:12, 137:16, 152:20, 159:11, 178:2, 184:24, 232:15, 234:23 BS - 235:3 Building - 9:2, 17:16, 17:18, 207:17, 226:20, 232:24, 238:25 Bulletin - 96:6, 96:13, 96:17, 96:18, 96:25 Bullock - 9:22, 49:17, 49:25, 50:7, 196:21, 231:21, 232:19, 232:21, 232:25, 234:7, 234:9 Bumped - 16:25 Bunk - 42:17, 42:19, 42:25, 43:1 Bunkie - 58:7, 58:9, 73:1, 88:7, 116:16, 118:3, 118:13, 119:2, 138:20, 237:4 Bureau - 3:7, 8:13, 8:22, 35:17, 79:22, 105:20, 160:8, 213:9, 235:17 Bus - 72:6 a C&A - 23:13, 24:12, 24:14, 24:23, 25:1, 25:12 Cadre - 202:20 MMB - 26:3, 26:4, 26:9, 27:4, 79:25, 165:13, 166:5, 166:16, 166:20, 170:17, 170:23, 172:5, 172:20, 172:22, 173:2, 174:24, 175:4 Caliber - 78:7 Called - 25:1, 58:5, 80:20, 107:6, 147:16, 156:16 Calling - 125:5, 129:10, 220:13, 233:15, 233:16 Calls - 15:7, 234:11 Came - 10:23, 44:20, 45:13, 45:23, 45:24, 61:6, 105:3, 111:3, 153:21, 154:11, 155:3, 158:24, 181:20, 185:25, 192:13, 200:6, 208:14, 231:24 Cancel - 72:6, 72:7 Cancelled - 124:17, 135:19, 135:22 Cannot - 22:10, 23:15 Capacity - 205:5 Capture - 83:20 Care - 42:11 Career - 222:8 HM - 208:1, 208:2 8:12 Carrying - 18:7 Cart - 54:25 Cases - 145:13 Catch - 73:16 Cellie - 71:17 Cellmates - 58:17, 58:18 Cellphone - 7:5 Cells - 51:20, 159:18, 159:19, 178:5, 212:7, 212:8, 212:9, 240:3 Census - 161:16 Center - 3:13, 9:14, 24:8 Certain - 31:23, 63:15, 75:7, 95:6, 101:1, 143:9, 187:13, 225:22, 229:1, 231:17 Certainly - 77:25 Change - 11:10, 131:20, 154:23, 214:17, 215:20, 216:7, 216:11, 216:12, 230:5 Changed - 124:12, 154:21 Changeover - 74:20 Changing - 63:21, 184:21, 185:12 Chapo - 239:5 Charge - 40:9, 229:2 Charged - 43:15, 177:3, 180:16 Chart - 177:21 Chatted - 45:2, 46:19 Check - 21:2, 46:24, 51:5, 51:16, 190:9 Checked - 63:13, 98:6 Chief - 228:16 Chits - 26:23 Choo - 125:19 Choose - 5:7 Chose - 38:8 Chummy - 49:4 Circle - 93:15, 93:16, 191:23, 204:7, 208:7 Circumstances - 4: 12 Claim - 71:21, 213:23 Clarify - 16:10, 141:12, 141:21 Clear - 22:9, 22:10, 23:15, 153:12, 169:6, 186:5, 186:13, 186:15 Cleared - 22:13 Clearing - 23:14 Clearly - 91:22, 196:3 Climbing - 91:4 Clipboard - 59:16, 59:21, 101:7, 101:22 Close - 90:9, 14:10, 153:11, 155:15, 159:6 Closed - 103:12 Clothes - 217:25 Clothing - 218:2 Coax - 101:8 Coercion - 5:16 Collateral - 10:8 Collect - 82:17 Collected - 199:19, 199:21 Collecting - 219:17 Column - 161:17, 167:10 Com - 225:5, 225:14, 227:20, 227:21, 240:14, 240:16 Come - 12:10, 30:5, 45:3, 48:11, 71:15, 72:8, 81:15, 90:8, 91:14, 91:19, 112:19, 124:14, 197:9, 200:5, 212:13, 242:24, 243:8 Comes - 56:15, 73:23, 116:14, 118:2, 133:4, 173:18 Commissary - 62:1 9 Commit - 67:22, 67:23, 236:7 Committed - 44:6, 216:25, 237:3 Common - 121:6, 149:6 Communicate - 49: Companion - 218:4 Companions - 214: 22 Compare - 23:20, 23:21 Complete - 35:15, 38:17, 146:6 Completed - 29:2, 29:25, 146:9 Completing - 35:5 Complied - 156:20 Computer - 19:11, 127:17, 157:23, 158:25, 180:4, 225:1 Computers - 82:25 Concern - 219:22 Concerned - 151:15 Concerning - 214:1 7 Concerns - 18:10 Conduct - 19:25, 156:19, 177:7, 237:24, 242:3 Conducted - 3:8, 3:12, 4:24, 5:1, 8:8, 19:17, 21:15, 24:5, 156:21, 180:20, 188:6, 221:11, 221:15, 223:15, 223:22 Conducting - 21:21 , 21:24, 36:1, 36:21, 175:22, 236:14 Conferences - 50:8 EFTA00061306

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Confirm - 223:20, 224:5 Confirmed - 37:7 Confirming - 21:5, 210:13 Confirms - 95:25 Confusing - 17:21, 118:15, 152:15 Considered - 242:1 5 Consistent - 238:19 Constant - 114:2 Constantly - 17:13 Constitute - 20:18 Contact - 64:6 Contacted - 140:3, 156:22 Continue - 220:14 Contraband - 31:16 Contradicting - 39: 17 Controlling - 31:16 Convenience - 233: 9 Conversations - 57 Cool - 83:19, 96:5 Cop - 44:25, 45:3, 211:4 Copied - 194:17 Copy - 64:16, 102:25, 105:24, 140:17, 140:24 Corner - 95:2, 99:7, 229:25 Corps - 9:3, 223:2 Corrected - 154:16, 176:8, 176:20, 176:21, 177:19, 181:21, 184:24 Correcting - 185:19 Correction - 153:23 , 154:20, 182:14 Correctional - 3:13, 4:2, 4:4, 7:9, 9:7, 9:11, 9:14, 31:3, 31:13, 67:16, 88:22 Corrections - 22:21 , 27:22, 31:2 Correctly - 40:17, 43:21, 196:15 Correlate - 165:8 Correspond - 159:2 3 Corresponding - 16 1:3, 162:24, 166:23, 173:9, 174:14, 176:13 Cos - 132:24, 242:2 Couldn't - 212:12, 227:17, 236:12 Counsel - 46:8 Counseling - 30:25 Counselor - 4:2, 4:4, 7:9, 17:19, 64:7, 209:7, 209:13, 210:7 Counted - 160:1, 167:22, 243:4 Counting - 22:22, 27:23, 164:14, 168:11, 177:1 Countless - 222:10 Couple - 62:12, 84:6, 109:17, 144:23, 231:16, 235:19 Course - 31:22, 32:4, 37:9, 66:17, 67:18, 67:25, 77:12 Cover - 14:21, 182:24 Covered - 187:10, 242:1 Covering - 183:1 CPR - 41:15 Crap - 194:17 Crawl - 240:3 Created - 183:13 Credence - 210:3 Credentials - 3:6, 3:16 Credibility - 38:18 Crew - 61:3, 73:22, 73:23, 74:7, 75:14, 75:17, 76:20, 76:21, 238:17 Crews - 61:9, 61:10 Criminal - 5:10 Cross - 23:21, 152:5 Crossed - 168:25, 170:2, 170:11, 170:18 Crosser - 169:22, 170:21 Crossing - 28:10 Curiosity - 41:19 Curious - 106:20, 123:7 Current - 7:1, 7:4, 7:7 Currently - 243:22 Custody - 62:15, 131:25, 208:16, 208:19, 208:20, 209:1, 209:2, 209:9, 209:11, 209:24, 210:10 Cut - 41:14, 43:18, 191:15 Cutter - 59:10 Ha - 2.10:14 Daily - 10:21, 11:3, 11:15, 13:3, 15:19, 58:2, 123:16, 142:10, 143:2, 145:17, 146:15, 147:8, 160:25, 164:5, 170:9, 176:3, 181:23, 203:22, 216:14 Dangerous - 65:8 + 227:25, 228:3 HE - 9:16, 83:3, 108:15, 155:25, 204:23, 214:13 Dark - 36:19 Wa - 107:21 Data - 179:23 Database - 230:2 Date - 3:10, 6:2, 6:21, 8:15, 50:19, 50:21, 66:7, 95:22, 95:23, 120:9, 145:18, 185:1, 209:15, 216:14 Dated - 98:25, 121:23, 126:5, 211:11 Dates - 44:2 Dating - 95:12, 107:12, 108:11, 141:3, 146:24, 159:2, 160:3, 161:7, 163:7, 212:15 Daughter's - 95:15 -8:11 + 62:12, 109:6, 109:22, 109:24, 110:1, 110:2, 110:5, 110:17 Days - 13:13, 13:24, 16:18, 30:5, 35:12, 61:12, 144:23, 210:25, 222:6, 222:7, 231:14, 231:17 Daytime - 137:20, 137:21, 138:1 Dead - 81:7, 81:9, 81:19 Deal - 175:18 Dealing - 145:9 Death - 4:11, 35:7, 80:18, 81:10, 82:18, 102:14, 236:5, 236:16 Deceased - 80:13, 82:7 Decision - 137:3, 239:17 Decline - 227:5 Decrepit - 226:20 Deduce - 203:22 Deemed - 43:10, 44:16 Defer - 34:18 Definitely - 46:5, 77:13, 77:19, 146:21, 158:23, 179:15, 204:6, 208:5 Definition - 19:1 Delayed - 28:13 Delete - 104:9, 104:11, 104:16, 105:14 Deleted - 103:25, 105:7 HE - 3:2, 3:19, 3:22, 6:7, 243:23 Deny - 223:20 Departed - 71:7, 71:11 Departing - 26:22 Department - 3:3, 3:9, 4:19, 9:4, 89:2, 219:19 Departure - 111:7 Depend - 9:25 Depending - 48:23 Depends - 22:25, 60:24, 85:17, 145:3 Described - 231:3 Desk - 51:8, 84:12, 84:19, 84:20, 85:6, 86:25, 98:19, 120:23, 236:10 Destroy - 102:15, 102:19, 103:17 Destroying - 105:10 , 105:23, 106:24 Destruction - 83:11 Detrimental - 30:13 Dictated - 58:10 Die - 237:19 Died - 49:12, 81:3, 217:2 Differences - 171:2 0 Different - 18:12, 18:13, 48:11, 116:4, 145:5, 157:13, 165:12, 197:7, 230:3 Differently - 34:4 Dinnertime - 56:11 Direct - 75:2, 79:4, 103:14, 156:18 Directed - 102:12 Directly - 70:22, 175:23 Disciplinary - 5:6, 5:10 Discovery - 217:8 Discrepancy - 192: 25 Discussed - 13:21 Distinguish - 91:11 Dix - 9:11 Doc - 215:17 Doctors - 220:7 Document - 85:3, 134:21, 177:25, 183:14, 199:14 Documentations - 139:5 Documents - 27:2, 83:5, 102:16, 102:19, 106:4, 177:4, 187:22, 199:16, 200:25 DOJ/OIG - 3:15, 3:22, 3:24, 4:10, 4:15, 4:18 MN - 8:10 Door - 19:8, 19:9, 46:25, 76:18, 89:13, 90:12, 99:11, 101:17, 156:12, 156:13, 156:16 Dot - 152:5 Double - 145:11 Doubt - 73:6, 91:17 Downrange - 51:19, 51:20, 54:9, 76:11, 76:12, 84:20, 85:4, 85:7, 85:10, 86:4, 86:7, 87:6, 87:7, 87:15, 101:25, 102:1, 102:3, 102:5, 242:23 Downstairs - 47:20, 56:13 Dr - 107:23 Draw - 147:6 Drawing - 96:2 Drives - 225:13 Drop - 140:17 Dry - 150:15, 153:2, 153:23, 157:3, 157:12 Dude - 129:11, 237:3 Due - 22:23, 27:24 + 79:24 + 73:9, 111:16, 111:25, 120:20, 121:1, EFTA00061307

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204:1, 204:24 HS - (20:15 During - 6:17, 16:7, 17:5, 18:6, 22:25, 72:17, 111:16, 141:13, 221:22, 223:13, 224:12 Duties - 10:5, 10:8, 31:1, 153:20 Duty - 29:17, 44:11, 78:21, 215:17 DW - 210:20 es E1 - 23:18 Each - 10:25, 12:12, 20:12, 22:7, 56:25, 70:15, 84:11, 84:14, 87:10, 185:22, 212:4, 212:13 Earlier - 191:13 Early - 10:23, 238:23 Easier - 87:4, 87:12, 142:9, 239:25 Easily - 177:16, 177:17, 242:18 Eat - 55:8, 56:11 EDNY - 124:3 Edwards - 44:7, 122:15, 126:7, 131:7, 163:11 Eight - 95:14 Either - 42:24, 59:15, 60:22, 72:10, 75:16, 83:17, 103:12, 110:21, 116:21, 120:25, 179:21, 180:19, 190:23, 191:10, 218:18 Either/Or - 188:16, 201:24 El - 239:5 Electronic - 106:3 Electronically - 183 78, 183:9 Elevated - 90:11, 90:14 Elevator - 232:16, 234:23 Else - 36:4, 170:14, 194:8, 194:18, 203:1, 205:22, 205:25, 220:9, 224:10, 225:1, 226:14, 228:1, 235:1, 241:22, 243:17 Else's - 96:1, 205:14 HM - 12:3. 122:4, 141:8, 141:10 Emailed - 143:5, 143:6 Emails - 102:11, 102:22, 103:10, 103:14, 105:20, 106:3, 107:3, 123:4, 136:19, 143:19, 150:19, 158:7 Emergency - 10:9, 10:10, 145:5 Employee - 3:7, 4:21, 5:19 Employee's - 5:22 Employment - 9:1 Empty - 105:19, 197:19 End - 20:11, 31:10, 61:17, 69:23, 70:15, 84:11, 84:14, 87:10, 100:18, 101:3, 101:18, 144:5, 182:18, 186:18, 242:23 Ended - 121:1, 144:18 Ends - 120:16, 143:13 Enforce - 30:24 Enforced - 68:19 Enough - 105:16, 180:6 Ensure - 18:7, 21:16, 22:22, 27:23, 32:11, 32:12, 85:25, 86:16, 138:25, 155:8 Ensured - 78:10, 111:6 Entail - 19:17 Enter - 19:12, 19:14, 151:3, 151:6, 151:12, 151:13, 156:11, 156:17 Entered - 40:18, 70:8, 147:23, 149:23, 150:7, 150:21 Entering - 19:16 Entertain - 38:13 Entire - 61:3, 115:14 EPO - 10:13 Epstein's - 52:1, 57:16, 69:2, 70:18, 74:24, 82:11, 112:10, 113:16, 114:3, 132:5, 136:11, 235:1, 235:7, 236:5, 236:10 Equipment - 26:24 Escape - 164:16 Escort - 46:20, 47:7, 48:18, 49:11, 82:18, 88:15, 231:25 Escorted - 49:9, 50:1, 50:8, 54:14, 55:3, 55:7, 80:4 Escorting - 47:9, 49:1, 78:25, 80:9, 83:1 Especially - 28:11, 58:3, 66:22, 68:6, 75:14, 86:4, 112:11, 120:2, 121:8, 121:12, 145:11, 153:16, 158:17, 223:13, 224:13, 232:6, 238:10 Evening - 11:25, 12:2, 14:24, 15:21, 17:8, 28:25, 47:16, 61:22, 62:10, 62:11, 68:23, 69:5, 142:21, 143:4, 151:22, 165:3, 189:8, 192:18, 198:8 Event - 218:11 Ever - 29:8, 29:13, 46:23, 46:25, 48:21, 53:1, 53:22, 54:5, 54:10, 54:23, 57:17, 63:21, 126:15, 168:8, 168:23, 174:9, 191:22, 193:10, 224:14 Everybody - 32:11, 36:4, 37:12, 37:15, 59:3, 60:6, 62:7, 130:11, 130:25, 132:12, 134:2, 146:10, 169:21, 178:17, 179:9, 224:10, 226:14 Everybody's - 132: 13 Everyone - 3:20, 68:1 Everywhere - 204:7 Evidence - 5:9 Exactly - 17:9, 27:13, 34:22, 44:1, 55:15, 64:12, 88:23, 98:7, 134:3, 134:18, 152:16, 190:5, 200:9, 227:4 Example - 30:25, 32:18, 106:3 Exceed - 35:1, 41:4 Except - 166:7, 236:2 Excuse - 127:11 Exec - 143:5 Executive - 79:10, 143:7 Exhausted - 222:23 , 222:25, 223:12, 238:20, 240:2 Exhaustion - 238:2 0 Explain - 52:13 Explained - 16:21 Explanation - 199:1 1, 226:8 Expresses - 214:19 Expression - 26:20, 32:17 Extra - 151:4 Eyes - 132:13 a | Faces - 227:13 Facilities - 228:9, 229:10, 229:12 Facility - 67:16 Facing - 100:3 Failed - 83:20 Failure - 5:4 Fair - 105:16, 180:6 Fairly - 62:21 Falls - 138:23 Falsified - 221:10 Falsifying - 177:3, 180:7 Familiar - 60:4, 60:16, 60:18, 62:16, 65:2, 89:6, 122:22 Familiarize - 65:23 FBI - 45:1, 82:18, 183:4, 198:19 February - 6:22, 7:12, 210:7 Fed - 54:7, 55:15, 56:3, 219:1, 219:12 Federal - 3:6, 8:13, 9:11, 160:7 Feed - 45:20, 52:8, 54:18, 219:5 Feeding - 54:16, 219:7 Feel - 233:12, 239:20 Felt - 215:8, 215:11, 220:6, 222:13 | , 153:2, 153:23, 155:16, 156:13, 156:15, 156:18, 156:20, 156:22, 159:6, 176:4, 181:21 Few - 83:15, 147:6 Field - 3:5 Fifth - 207:1 Fifty - 243:10 Fight - 214:7 Fighting - 227:14 Figure - 136:10, 136:25, 137:5, 158:10, 207:9, 208:9, 226:25 File - 65:5 Files - 106:3 Fill - 14:8, 14:14, 14:17, 15:5, 196:14, 196:21 Filled - 16:25, 33:1, 33:4, 33:12, 33:21, 147:11, 196:25 Filling - 17:16, 34:8, 34:14, 115:16, 115:17 Fills - 58:11 Film - 100:6 Find - 186:25, 233:2 Finish - 146:20, 149:16, 152:1, 216:19 Finished - 146:19, 188:11 Five - 17:16, 35:8, 222:6, 242:5, 242:9, 243:11 Fixed - 77:22, 227:7, 227:9 Flag - 184:14 Flash - 91:1 Floor - 62:13, 92:17, 218:10, 218:12, 218:23 Focus - 119:6, 175:24, 199:2 Focusing - 137:23, 137:25, 223:14 Folder - 59:16, 183:15, 183:16, 183:22 Follow - 84:7 Following - 8:8, 8:21, 69:4, 78:16, 126:6 Food - 52:3, 53:7, 53:8, 53:15, 54:6, 54:25, 55:24, 56:5, 56:14, 56:15, 219:16 Forbid - 37:12 Force - 45:1, 149:11, 149:14, EFTA00061308

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151:25 Forensic - 59:8 Forget - 50:19, 172:22 Forgot - 11:17, 50:20, 205:19, 206:1, 206:2, 206:18, 206:19, 207:1, 211:5, 233:7 Form - 4:18, 5:24, 64:15, 155:24 Former - 69:2, 74:10 Forms - 32:24, 32:25 Fort - 9:11 Forth - 47:18 Forward - 176:8, 235:18 Found - 41:20, 45:11, 50:15, 69:4, 75:22, 76:5, 81:18, 111:2, 120:3, 224:9, 229:23 Four - 61:12, 62:5, 196:13, 222:6, 242:10 Fourth - 6:3, 27:14, 27:16, 202:23, 207:1 Friday - 13:4, 14:23, 16:15, 25:20, 50:13, 50:17, 50:20, 72:17, 109:3, 126:9, 143:23, 147:7, 156:5, 211:13, 214:12 Front - 23:18, 169:21, 240:12, 243:1 FT - 127:3, 127:18, 134:15 Fuck - 205:17 Fudge - 87:3 Fudging - 86:21 Full - 90:4, 127:3, 179:9 Fully - 24:6, 191:22, 229:16 Function - 230:24 Furnish - 5:9 Future - 5:9, 83:23 [LG Gap - 121:3 Gate - 44:12 Gave - 80:21, 156:18 GCT - 127:2 General - 3:4, 3:10, 4:20, 4:25, 5:2, 8:11, 19:4, 44:17, 46:3, 217:12 Generated - 7:22, 65:19, 66:13, 89:1, 133:9, 139:18, 209:16 Generates - 59:1 GEO - 125:22, 125:23, 125:24, 127:11, 127:12 Getting - 45:18, 61:11, 72:11, 103:5, 124:25, 129:6, 153:5, 161:11, 222:6, 222:17 Ghost - 159:25, 167:21, 168:10, 173:18, 173:20 Giovanne - 128:6, 131:13 Girls - 222:5 Give - 13:3, 18:8, 49:22, 55:3, 77:7, 159:14, 200:22, 206:17, 217:24, 232:1, 243:12 Given - 56:5, 56:6, 204:11, 206:12 Giving - 26:23, 234:5, 234:19 Glance - 28:1, 129:2 Glasses - 152:12 Glued - 28:18 God - 37:12, 223:17, 223:20 Goes - 71:23, 79:21, 114:9, 130:12, 166:14, 173:7, 242:23, 242:25 Good - 22:11, 23:16, 23:22, 51:17, 60:25, 153:3, 164:2, 169:8, 169:14, 169:16, 169:17, 186:5, 186:14, 2277212, 243:11 Gotten - 19:24, 35:18, 71:16, 100:22, 113:5, 138:17, 177:10, 189:19 Government - 158: 25 Grab - 85:4, 156:13, 156:15 Graduate - 45:6 Graduated - 44:24, 45:8 Grand - 239:16 Grasp - 7:24 Great - 4:9, 7:16, 12:18, 84:1, 89:9, 94:13, 98:25, 108:5, 118:14 Greatest - 164:17 Grill - 20:6, 20:10, 100:6 GS - 4:8, 4:9, 9:25, 14:20, 15:9, 15:25, 49:25 Guess - 12:7, 39:25, 69:8, 93:16, 98:14, 105:15, 127:15, 132:12, 149:2, 155:25, 159:17, 177:7, 177:8, 193:23, 194:15, 197:8, 229:7 Guided - 82:17 Guy - 45:1, 74:8, 114:10, 115:23, 116:14, 125:5, 127:19, 128:7, 139:24, 139:25, 140:3, 140:4, 160:15, 176:3, 211:4, 241:1 Guys - 86:13, 103:6, 128:11, 131:18, 133:18, 198:19, 203:2, 222:5 a Hadn't - 36:20, 146:19, 181:1, 226:11 Halfway - 127:20 Hall - 101:3, 101:18 Hancock - 33:9 Hand - 6:16 Handed - 133:14 Handing - 219:16 Hang - 43:17, 235:17 Hanging - 42:15, 217:2 Happen - 33:22, 44:4, 60:16, 74:20, 145:7, 145:25 Happening - 33:25, 113:12 Happens - 37:12, 69:18, 69:21, 136:19 Happy - 95:16 Hard - 91:11, 96:9, 115:12, 225:13 Harm - 212:21, 213:3, 213:24, 214:20, 215:4 Hate - 124:23 Haven't - 64:5, 70:4, 134:16, 241:22 Having - 103:13, 108:20, 220:9 Head - 49:8, 70:2, 139:24, 228:9 Heads - 77:8, 89:2, 116:10 Hear - 30:4, 35:15, 36:7, 36:8, 37:19, 180:12, 213:2, 226:18, 234:3, 235:3, 235:16 Hearing - 131:20 Heavy ~- 237:12 Help - 16:10, 212:24 Helped - 236:16, 236:17, 237:1 Helping - 23:13, 212:23 Helps ~- 13:8, 31:25 Here's - 92:18, 94:25, 133:2, 159:4, 167:2 Hi - 234:4 High - 44:18, 44:21, 44:25, 45:5, 45:8, 53:19, 65:7, 66:25, 67:21, 68:7, 70:24, 73:14, 88:2, 88:7, 100:14, 199:2, 238:24 Higher - 239:24 Himself - 43:17, 63:12, 172:21 Hire - 196:8 History - 159:5, 159:7 Hit - 40:13, 41:7, 222:17 Hitch - 239:8 Hold - 52:10, 52:12, §3:9, 54:11, 102:13, 108:18, 123:10, 219:11 Hole - 100:15 Home - 7:1, 17:8, 17:19, 30:5, 72:10, 113:1, 144:5, 153:7, 166:14, 186:3, 200:8, 200:10, 207:22, 215:17, 232:23 Honestly - 42:21, 64:4, 126:23, 128:4, 128:16, 128:20, 168:17, 181:15, 193:14, 224:10 Hook - 59:21, 96:11 Hope - 221:17, 223:17, 223:20, 223:24, 223:25 Horror - 30:4 Hospital - 78:20, 78:23, 78:25, 79:15, 79:18, 79:20, 79:22, 80:1, 80:4, 80:7, 80:8, 80:12, 80:16, 80:18, 81:11, 81:16, 200:5, 207:8, 210:18 Hour - 10:25, 11:10, 12:12, 61:17, 140:4, 171:20, 186:19, 222:7, 238:12 Hours - 10:23, 11:21, 12:6, 12:14, 12:15, 13:15, 13:25, 16:7, 16:19, 17:5, 46:2, 47:21, 176:4, 196:13, 223:3, 223:6 House - 127:20 Housed - 188:1 Housing - 10:6, 18:6, 19:4, 19:6, 19:7, 32:22, 45:12, 55:8, 64:6, 109:2, 134:9, 135:12, 140:20, 156:10, 215:3 However - 38:17, 136:21 HE - 28:2. 228:3, 229:6 Human - 223:7 Humanly - 71:19 Hung - 216:25 a I'd - 140:5 Idea - 45:14, 45:16, 189:18 Identify - 3:20, 227216 Identities - 8:19 lll - 23:22, 69:8, 87:2, 150:18, 196:22, 237:16 Hl - (07:21, 107:23 Immediately - 214:2 2 Important - 31:1, 31:6, 31:13, 43:3, 182:20 Incident - 149:9, 149:10, 157:6, 157:10, 157:12, 157:15, 217:19, EFTA00061309

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218:20 Include - 10:5, 18:5, 214:15 Included - 125:8 Including - 67:2, 134:9 Incomplete - 146:4 Inconveniencing - 233:9 Indicate - 130:22, 146:18, 170:9, 175:19, 175:20, 175:21, 176:23, 224:24 Indicated - 208:17 Indication - 175:3 Indicator - 150:4 Individual - 197:10, 240:7 Inform - 73:7 Information - 4:22, 4:23, 8:21, 19:14, 30:1, 76:25, 109:2, 120:1, 120:5, 147:19, 214:3, 217:6, 217:13 Informed - 75:17, 75:19, 75:20, 77:11, 77:25, 78:25, 118:5, 118:8 Informing - 78:18 Initial - 84:22, 84:23, 95:21, 191:21, 212:18, 216:14, 218:19 Initialed - 98:25 Initialing - 95:12, 107:12, 108:11, 120:8, 141:3, 146:24, 159:2, 160:3, 161:7, 163:7, 187:16, 212:15 Initiative - 215:1 Ink - 34:5 Inmates’ - 158:7 Inmate's - 59:5, 102:14, 135:2 Inside - 37:2, 38:2, 38:4, 101:12, 101:13, 157:21, 162:3, 220:19, 237:17 Inspector - 3:4, 3:9, 4:20, 4:25, 5:1, 8:11 Instance - 29:1, 29:24, 35:8, 92:14, 104:3, 106:2, 111:24, 112:6, 121:22, 135:15, 148:17, 155:17, 186:3, 188:7, 240:1 Instances - 22:12, 33:2 Instead - 78:20 Institutional - 61:10 Institutions - 134:1 Instructions - 87:24 , 88:4, 88:9, 88:10, 88:13 Intake - 46:12, 215:9 Intentionally - 225: 19 Intentions - 214:19 Interact - 51:14 Interacted - 50:23 Interacting - 212:4 Interaction - 46:14, 211:16, 219:14 Interesting - 45:9, 46:1 Internal - 22:9, 140:17, 140:19, 169:18, 243:14 Interview - 3:6, 3:12, 3:18, 4:15, 5:5, 6:14, 6:18, 7:22, 8:8, 8:12, 8:19, 10:18, 13:12, 16:13, 198:25, 208:6 Interviewed - 7:17, 8:16, 13:1 Interviewing - 8:20 Intubation - 81:24, 82:8 Investigation - 3:10 . 4:10, 4:24, 4:25, 5:3, 7:18, 8:13, 82:19 Investigations - 10: 7 Involved - 40:4, 40:8, 51:25, 151:19 Involvement - 52:2, 53:6, 212:18, 236:2 Involving - 150:16 I's - 152:5 Ish - 200:10 Isn't - 73:24, 130:5, 140:24, 144:24, 145:1 Issue - 113:7, 115:1, 151:15, 233:11 Issues - 124:24, 217:12 Item - 156:14, 156:15 Itself - 73:16 I've - 103:5, 126:24, 168:10, 218:21, 227:1, 227:4 Jail - 78:21, 113:2, 125:25 January - 8:23 WM - 25:23 JE - 98:15, 98:16 WM - 78:18, 80:15, 80:20, 81:14 Jeffrey - 4:11, 35:7, 35:14 ME - 9:16, 214:12 Jive - 40:19, 40:23, 41:4, 70:14, 87:13, 243:5 Jives - 164:14 Jiving - 174:3 Job - 5:3, 18:8, 19:19, 21:6, 21:17, 21:18, 23:1, 28:17, 28:21, 61:14, 62:12, 62:23, 77:17, 185:7, 222:25, 227:2, 230:25 HMB - 25:24, 33:8 Joined - 9:6, 9:12, 60:23 Jones - 140:6 + 62:2, 62:7, 109:7, 109:23, 110:1, 110:11, 110:17 Judge - 220:13 Judging - 91:2, 94:17 July - 104:7, 212:18, 217:15, 218:20 Jump - 123:9 Jumps - 170:12 June - 209:5 Justice - 3:4, 3:9, 4:19 a K2 - 31:17, 32:1 Keep - 27:11, 31:2, 80:17, 142:4, 142:6, 152:12, 163:9, 187:14 Keeping - 86:13, 93:2, 216:18 Kept - 36:19, 59:13, 84:11, 84:12, 84:13, 187:15, 224:25, 225:3, 225:10 Key - 20:7, 52:7 Keyed - 111:9, 123:23, 153:24, 159:22, 161:19, 162:10, 167:4, 176:4, 176:5 Keys - 23:7, 23:14, 26:16, 26:17, 26:20, 165:22 Kick - 144:7 Kicked - 144:6 Kid - 222:20 Kids - 222:21 Kill - 236:9, 236:19, 236:22 Kitchen - 91:10 Knock - 225:19 Knocking - 76:18, 226:2 Knowing - 74:24, 78:6 Knowledge - 34:16, 74:18, 75:3, 111:21 Knows - 73:19, 74:11, 74:15, 134:11, 135:15, 135:16, 138:4 rs | Lack - 38:25, 58:1, 77:14, 87:1 Lafayette - 45:6, 45:8 Language - 213:10, 235:3 Largely - 10:1 Last - 3:21, 27:20, 29:15, 45:20, 49:8, 50:5, 50:23, 63:13, 135:3, 142:21, 187:20, 192:17, 207:4, 231:20, 232:16, 237:15, 242:2 Late - 85:16 Later - 39:25, 40:6, 44:3, 150:19, 165:7, 207:21 Lawyer - 233:7, 233:15 Layne - 147:3, 148:22, 181:20, 184:19 Layout - 92:9 Leading - 217:8, 231:14 Leaning - 152:12, 235:18 Least - 27:1, 61:1, 63:16, 74:7, 74:11, 104:18, 105:5, 115:10, 116:10, 116:13, 116:21, 136:1, 196:13, 231:13, 231:16 Leave - 148:1, 192:10 Leaves - 71:1, 72:13, 73:22 Leaving - 26:15, 69:3, 111:11, 130:2, 131:7, 132:4, 146:4, 157:25 MB - 79:11, 79:12, 79:13 Legal - 46:8, 47:11, 47:15, 47:24, 48:15, 49:22, 102:13, 118:2, 135:11, 232:2, 232:4, 232:11, 233:24, 234:5, 234:11, 234:13, 234:14 Less - 46:5, 130:19, 242:5 Let - 20:4, 57:21, 77:20, 105:21, 113:14, 118:25 Letter - 92:15 Level - 4:7, 199:2 Lie - 129:4 Life - 80:25, 213:16, 235:1, 235:8, 235:21, 235:24 Lightly - 226:23 Liked - 71:3 Likely - 223:15 Limited - 64:6 Line - 6:7, 146:3, 151:3, 169:9, 169:12, 169:15, 206:23, 208:4 Listed - 10:22, 71:12, 123:25, 124:5, 125:14, 126:10, 130:1, 133:19, 133:24, 136:20, 149:19, 150:2, 154:12, 154:19, 155:4, 156:24, 156:25, 157:25, 175:25 Listen - 77:12, 116:13, 227:1 Listing - 127:10, 177214 Lists - 121:14, 129:1, 133:9 Literally - 192:7, 222:22 Little - 7:23, 17:21, EFTA00061310

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49:7, 49:8, 62:22, 89:20, 100:15, 113:25, 153:5, 153:14, 161:11, 197:7, 238:11 Located - 3:14, 98:8, 100:9, 100:17, 230:4 Location - 93:7 Locator - 177:18, 177:19, 177:20, 178:22, 178:24, 178:25, 179:1 Lock - 193:13, 228:15, 228:16, 228:22 Locked - 212:9 Locking - 219:17 Login - 19:11 Logs - 143:2, 181:11, 187:9 Long - 7:10, 13:9, 39:7, 42:22, 47:14, 48:16, 58:10, 101:25, 104:12, 120:22, 134:16, 141:24, 164:13, 216:4 Longer - 214:25 Looked - 81:25, 98:19, 107:15, 128:19, 128:20, 128:22 Loop - 125:8, 155:16, 159:6, 172:8 Lot - 14:11, 23:4, 31:19, 48:7, 56:11, 61:8, 61:12, 61:13, 63:15, 102:11, 106:16, 130:16, 130:18, 216:11, 221:21, 238:11, 239:25 Lou - 49:16, 49:17, 125:4, 196:22 LT - 140:3 Lunch - 54:20, 55:1, 55:4 Lunches - 56:6 HE - 3:15, 3:25, 241:25 a Made - 5:16, 40:11, 69:7, 83:4, 84:16, 112:13, 112:19, 138:14, 178:3, 188:9, 188:10, 190:12, 192:3, 193:21, 198:21, 223:9 Main - 132:11, 140:19 Mainly - 23:1, 124:23, 140:18 Maintain - 31:7 Maintenance - 9:3 Maker - 239:17 Makes - 158:5 Making - 18:5, 19:18, 20:21, 28:11, 28:16, 31:25, 32:1, 32:5, 41:2, 51:18, 230:5, 230:22 Maliciously - 106:1 2 Manager - 9:23, 229:10, 229:12, 229:13 Mandate - 222:11 Mandated - 14:12, 60:15, 196:16, 236:24 Mandates - 222:9 Mandatory - 18:24 + 155:18 Manipulated - 208: 18 Many - 23:8, 24:3, 82:24, 222:8, 243:7 Map - 92:5 Marine - 9:3, 223:2 Mark - 56:2, 178:7 Marshals - 122:6, 125:8, 125:18, 126:14, 130:4, 130:12, 133:5, 141:17, 141:18 HS - 25:25, 26:10, 27:3, 165:25, 166:2, 166:3, 166:13, 166:14, 166:18, 166:19, 202:1 Mass - 57:4, 88:17 Match - 22:8 Math - 164:12, 168:7, 181:16 Mathematician - 16 4:17 Matter - 45:17, 212:6, 215:7, 217:24, 218:1, 239:16 Matters - 164:15 Max - 239:24 Maxed - 127:19 May - 5:9, 92:22, 105:7, 109:8, 115:22, 171:23, 219:10, 238:6 Maybe - 40:2, 62:22, 71:9, 74:15, 76:12, 92:20, 95:5, 95:6, 105:10, 154:22, 156:3, 181:25, 192:2, 221:20 MC - 189:6, 189:12, 190:2, 191:21, 191:22, 191:23, 195:2, 197:5, 208:7 MCC - 3:14, 6:6, 39:24, 44:12, 69:2, 84:10, 129:17, 214:18, 221:11, 221:15, 224:7, 235:16, 237:17, 239:19 ME - 22813, 228:14 Meal - 55:8 Meaning - 135:5 Means - 34:21, 35:25, 71:25, 72:1, 72:9, 105:11, 127:19, 127:21, 127:23, 128:15, 164:15, 207:20 Meant - 39:10, 105:1, 105:2, 105:22, 106:23 Media - 36:7, 36:8, 38:5, 210:19, 235:4 Medical - 41:16 Meet - 63:17, 243:1 Meetings - 63:17, 65:15 Member - 61:1, 62:2, 62:4, 109:5, 218:14, 234:10, 240:1 Members - 80:9, 110:1 Memo - 102:24, 102:25, 105:25, 108:24, 109:14, 134:11, 136:4 Memory - 13:8, 200:24 Mention - 81:3 Mentioned - 67:3, 84:9, 88:3, 88:16, 96:6, 107:18, 108:14, 111:20, 141:9, 182:6, 185:21, 231:19, 231:21, 238:7 Message - 214:13 Messed - 136:10, 164:12 Metropolitan - 3:13, 9:13 93:24 Midnight - 143:3, 171:17, 176:18, 180:24, 186:16, 192:16 Might - 28:1, 33:23, 49:6, 54:8, 70:1, 100:13, 100:14, 100:15, 100:23, 144:4, 164:11, 170:13, 193:11, 194:17, 200:1, 200:16, 200:20, 219:9, 243:3 Million - 115:22 Mills - 37:22, 38:23 Mind - 44:21, 61:9, 93:2, 95:12, 107:10, 108:10, 120:8, 141:3, 146:23, 159:1, 160:2, 161:6, 163:6, 163:9, 173:18, 212:14, 216:13 Mine - 186:13, 203:14, 205:11 Mini - 52:16 Minus - 153:22 Minute - 20:22, 22:1, 22:3, 34:22, 35:6, 35:16, 36:2, 40:12, 41:3, 188:23, 190:9 Minutes - 32:23, 35:1, 40:18, 207:19, 235:19, 236:19, 236:21 Mis - 107:5 Missed - 83:20, 106:5, 195:20 Mission - 80:14 Mistake - 164:21, 181:18 Mistaken - 47:5, 143:7, 217:21, 225:5 Misunderstood - 10 5:10, 106:6, 106:8 Modified - 153:16, 191:16 Modify - 151:5 Modifying - 183:23, 184:9, 184:20 Mom - 234:4, 234:18 Monday - 37:12, 38:24 Mondays - 13:13, 13:24, 16:18 HM - 62:4 Monitor - 22:23, 27:24, 70:13 Monitoring - 240:16 Monitors - 22:20, 27:21, 240:9 More - 49:8, 52:14, 55:25, 73:1, 154:14, 187:22, 219:24, 238:13, 239:24, 241:18, 242:9 Mornings - 142:12 Most - 31:1, 31:6, 31:12, 47:19, 51:11, 56:24, 68:7, 70:24, 72:4, 72:8, 99:7, 182:19, 196:9, 196:18, 238:24, 240:23 Mother - 233:17, 233:18, 234:14 Move - 27:10, 46:21, 53:18, 53:23, 88:12, 149:17, 159:5, 193:12 Moved - 45:11, 46:2, 57:2, 69:22, 72:11, 72:14, 88:14, 100:22, 159:16 Movement - 23:5, 25:13, 70:4, 70:13, 90:4, 91:1, 114:2, 119:18, 165:1 Moves - 125:15 Moving - 27:11, 115:14, 126:17 Ms - 198:23 Much - 20:20, 55:21, 67:23, 72:3, 83:8, 91:4, 152:4, 213:10, 213:15 Multipurpose - 89:1 5 Murder - 43:11 Must - 37:16 Myself - 201:17, 204:25, 236:22, 242:19 LN) Name - 3:2, 3:21, 5:21, 5:22, 6:10, 6:12, 44:5, 135:2, 155:22, 171:3, 198:20, 209:16, 211:5, 228:12 EFTA00061311

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Names - 133:9, 139:17, 177:22, 178:5 + 9:21 Nature - 8:19, 32:2, 67:1, 67:21 NC - 208:23, 209:2, 209:16 Nes - 210:3 Necessarily - 15:17 , 69:20, 120:22, 157:5, 189:25 Neck - 81:25 Need - 57:16, 58:16, 74:21, 84:20, 85:7, 111:17, 134:21, 136:2, 140:19, 174:17, 175:18, 210:23, 233:24, 242:11 Needed - 83:6, 102:1, 121:18, 138:24, 203:2, 212:24, 214:23, 234:7, 234:15 Needing - 109:9 Needs - 88:6, 138:9, 138:20, 150:9 Newer - 83:16 News - 45:20 Newspapers - 36:9, 226:16 Next - 45:17, 73:12, 73:21, 73:22, 75:22, 94:3, 95:10, 99:8, 128:2, 143:20, 144:23, 159:13, 164:24, 197:9, 200:19, 243:2, 243:6 Nightmare - 115:18 Nights - 29:10 Nine - 4:7 Nobile - 228:4, 229:8 Nobody - 20:7, 61:6, 73:19, 73:25, 110:24, 166:7 Noel - 62:21, 62:24, 83:16, 179:13, 179:16, 196:16, 200:15 Non - 62:15, 208:16, 208:19, 209:2, 209:9, 209:10, 210:9 None - 131:18, 204:18 Nope - 243:20 Nor - 223:20 Normally - 27:17, 28:24, 129:3, 147:20, 169:5, 174:16, 234:10 North - 129:11, 140:7 Notation - 219:6 Note - 43:4, 64:8, 85:2, 111:4 Nothing - 6:17, 37:7, 37:19, 39:14, 88:1, 167:14, 182:25, 187:7, 208:25, 209:1, 224:23, 233:13, 235:2, 235:15, 236:7, 239:9, 243:15, 243:16, 243:17 Notice - 42:9, 102:13, 131:3, 132:17, 190:6 Noticed - 15:20, 197:18 Notices - 184:8 Notification - 216:8 Notifications - 130: 3 Notify - 215:13, 224:14 Nowadays - 31:17 Number - 7:5, 11:18, 22:8, 24:19, 24:22, 24:23, 25:17, 25:21, 99:20, 126:8, 160:12, 160:16, 162:16, 162:18, 173:10, 177:10, 214:13, 243:8 Numbers - 23:20, 70:14, 70:15, 154:9, 165:6, 165:12, 168:6, 176:12, 177:23 NYM - 125:22 NYPD - 45:1 a Oath - 6:15 Observation - 215: 18, 217:18, 217:22, 218:2, 218:19, 218:22, 219:12, 220:4, 231:9 Observed - 44:13, 156:12 Obtain - 234:15 Obtained - 199:17 Obviously - 129:25, 136:11, 237:24 OC - 26:21, 93:23 Occasion - 13:14, 13:25, 16:19 Occasions - 72:5 Occurred - 217:7 October - 9:8 Odd - 158:3, 158:4, 158:12 Officers’ - 59:23, 93:3, 93:17 Officer's - 29:17, 31:20, 91:23, 92:1, 164:14 Official - 3:8, 4:10, 37:20, 38:21, 38:23, 39:14, 102:13, 103:14, 178:1, 205:13, 207:3, 207:7, 242:20 Officially - 51:25 Offline - 225:19, 226:2 Often - 18:10, 46:8, 46:10, 63:24, 157:17 Oftentimes - 85:14 OIC's - 89:23, 236:10 OIG - 82:21, 83:1 Old - 24:25, 95:19, 222:22, 223:4 Once - 6:7, 135:6, 146:8, 156:14, 156:17, 169:13, 169:14, 169:18, 183:2, 223:24 Oncoming - 26:24, 109:5, 109:25, 149:15 Ones - 110:8, 173:2 Onto - 98:19, 138:23, 194:18 Op - 140:12 Open - 20:10, 52:10, 52:24, 53:11, 53:12, 95:10, 99:11 Opened - 52:11, 53:13, 101:17 Opening - 219:16 Opens - 135:6 Opinion - 149:24, 177:17, 238:21, 239:15, 241:20 Opportunity - 18:9 Order - 19:25, 129:22, 142:4, 146:20, 156:19, 186:13, 187:13, 187:15, 238:4 Others - 181:17, 235:7 Otherwise - 186:20, 212:1, 220:19 Our - 4:14, 73:24, 88:13, 122:23, 127:17, 168:13, 223:9, 243:8 Ourselves - 65:23 Outcome - 40:7 Outer - 19:9 Outside - 91:20, 98:19, 158:20, 218:7, 218:9 Overall - 214:23, 237:15 Overbooked - 218: 13 Overfilled - 218:13 Overlooked - 236:1 0 Overnight - 16:7, 17:5, 17:6, 29:11, 85:19, 180:21, 196:17 Overtime - 13:15, 13:25, 16:19, 17:10, 17:13, 60:15, 60:20, 67:10, 115:16, 120:16, 196:9, 196:14 Overtimers - 61:4 Own - 28:21, 52:18, 52:19, 133:5, 185:5, 235:21, 235:24, 240:7 a | PA - 155:20, 158:9 Page - 92:5, 123:18, 166:22, 201:13, 202:23, 206:25, 207:1, 207:2 Panning - 94:18 Pans - 95:8 Paper - 34:5, 40:22, 169:13, 169:18, 198:17 Papers - 208:6 Paperwork - 23:22, 146:15 Paragraph - 16:10, 27:14, 27:15, 27:20 Pardon - 213:10, 235:3 Part - 3:8, 4:23, 56:25, 74:19, 82:18, 128:20, 152:15, 152:19, 225:16, 240:23 Participate - 202:3, 202:5 Particularly - 224:7 Pass - 212:13 Passed - 79:1, 109:5, 109:18, 111:21, 136:4, 136:5 Passing - 137:13 Past - 29:3, 30:1, 56:11, 58:4, 59:10, 109:2, 185:13, 187:17 Paste - 191:15 Pasted - 194:18 Patterns - 34:18 Peek - 51:4, 51:19 Per - 23:19, 57:4, 102:8 Perfect - 12:22, 32:16, 32:17, 32:18, 84:5, 92:9, 94:1, 95:11, 98:5, 98:17, 103:4 Perform - 31:3 Performance - 5:3 Performed - 22:21, 27:22 Period - 117:11 Periodically - 103:6 Periods - 31:23 Permits - 19:20 Personal - 34:15, 46:14, 83:16, 239:15, 241:19 Personally - 40:3, 185:18, 186:22, 187:4 Pertain - 58:25 Pertaining - 103:23, 104:16, 105:13 Pertains - 5:3 Ph - 220:5 Phenomenal - 227: 9 Phone - 45:19, 96:22, 214:22 Phones - 28:7 Phonetic - 9:22, 25:23, 25:25, 45:25, 62:3, 79:24, 128:7, 140:6, 155:18 Photo - 99:1 Photographs - 82:1 1 Physically - 105:23, 106:24, 214:19, 230:4 Physician's - 155:2 0 Pick - 226:16, 230:20 Picked - 191:4, 191:5 EFTA00061312

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Picture - 59:6, 65:5, 91:3, 175:23 Piece - 154:17 Pieces - 127:8 Piggyback - 11:22, 152:8, 153:8, 185:22, 186:17, 186:20 Pile - 200:21 Pipe - 89:21, 101:8, 101:23 Place - 6:6, 6:14, 39:24, 55:25, 56:14, 57:12, 116:19, 153:12, 227:4, 231:22, 233:3, 234:7 Placed - 150:14, 157:3, 217:16, 217:18, 218:18, 232:11 Placement - 214:17 , 214:20 Places - 201:2 Placing - 18:5, 241:17 Plaza - 8:17 Plea - 131:21 Please - 3:20, 6:15, 84:8, 95:24, 106:2, 126:8, 142:3, 214:21 Plenty - 61:2 +79:11, 79:12, 79:13 Plumbing - 228:21 Pointing - 93:16 Police - 9:4 Policy - 30:24, 34:25, 102:8, 242:21 Pop - 19:4 Populate - 209:8 Population - 44:17, 46:3 Position - 7:8, 7:11, 16:25, 90:15, 117:9 Positions - 14:15 Positive - 208:14 Possible - 10:8, 71:19, 75:9, 111:13, 171:21, 177:2 Possibly - 17:12, 74:14, 75:3, 76:23, 109:8, 153:16, 195:20 Post - 15:5, 60:14, 60:17, 62:25, 67:11, 67:12, 238:23 Posted - 65:5 Posts - 238:24 PP - 70:1 PP1 - 23:18 PP30 - 69:23, 69:25, 230:20 PP38 - 123:12 PPE - 178:18 Practice - 149:7, 185:14, 216:7, 233:21 Pre - 71:13, 123:10, 123:19, 123:25, 124:6, 124:13, 127:4, 127:14, 127:21, 127:23, 128:9, 128:10, 130:1, 136:20, 147:10, 147:17, 149:19, 150:2, 150:8 Predominant - 230: 23, 230:24 Prematurely - 220:3 Prepared - 172:5 Preparedness - 10: 10, 10:12 Present - 3:15, 8:12, 23:25, 24:4, 53:10, 53:16, 53:19, 88:14, 109:6, 110:8, 176:9 Presented - 140:1 Preserve - 106:2 Pressure - 5:16 Pretty - 55:20, 67:22, 72:3, 83:8 Prevent - 86:21 Prevented - 236:4, 236:8, 236:18 Preventing - 236:16 Previously - 7:17, 215:4 Print - 5:21, 143:1, 148:8, 189:9, 210:4 Printed - 209:5, 209:14, 209:21, 209:23 Printing - 6:8, 6:12 Prior - 7:14, 9:1, 28:25, 80:24, 104:21, 111:7, 111:10, 143:3, 188:10, 207:19, 215:24, 221:11, 221:15, 223:16, 223:23 Prison - 10:1, 22:5, 79:5, 81:4, 82:16, 129:21 Prisoner - 121:13, 121:24, 126:11, 127:9, 129:1, 131:5, 133:19, 139:6 Prisoners - 125:22, 126:6 Prisons - 3:7, 8:23, 160:8 Private - 125:25 Probably - 14:4, 29:14, 30:3, 45:18, 66:4, 67:11, 101:4, 107:5, 114:5, 114:16, 122:16, 159:24, 159:25, 205:18, 209:20, 219:9 Problem - 28:13, 39:19, 49:25, 50:1, 54:4, 67:9, 107:13, 129:6, 148:25, 149:5, 159:3 Problematic - 186:2 5 Problems - 56:22, 140:1, 237:17, 237:23, 238:5, 238:6 Proceeded - 156:10 Proceedings - 5:10, 5:11 Processed - 44:13, 45:10 Production - 121:1 4, 121:24, 126:11, 129:1, 129:21, 131:6 Profanity - 77:15 Professionals - 31: 4 Profile - 44:18, 45:12, 65:8, 67:1, 67:21, 68:8, 70:25, 73:14, 88:2, 88:7, 120:3, 238:24 Program - 184:5 Progress - 162:7 Promises - 5:15 Promoted - 9:8 Pronounce - 166:1 Pronounced - 81:6, 81:8 Proper - 242:16, 242:17 Properly - 18:7, 22:22, 27:23, 29:1, 29:25 Protection - 10:9 Provide - 4:13, 4:21, 4:23 Provided - 8:21, 92:10, 140:24, 204:9, 206:9, 234:13 Prudent - 111:12 Psych - 59:7 Psyche - 219:19 Psychological - 58: 25, 65:3, 218:19, 220:4, 231:8 Psychologist - 215: 17, 220:6 Psychology - 57:21 , 57:23, 58:5, 58:11, 59:1, 63:18, 63:22, 65:15, 65:20, 65:22, 88:4, 107:19, 108:19, 215:11, 215:14, 216:5, 219:19 Psychology's - 58: 15 Public - 79:5, 79:13, 235:5 Pull - 105:20 Pulled - 123:3, 145:8 Punched - 159:25 Purpose - 22:1, 47:9, 86:16 Pursuant - 5:1 Pushing - 222:20 Puts - 127:17 Putting - 26:22, 33:8, 101:21, 173:21, 215:18 La) Quarter - 67:13, 117:16 Quarterbacking - 3 8:25 Quarterbacks - 37: 13 Quarterly - 10:2, 62:25 Quarters - 159:7 Quarter's - 70:3 Question - 64:9, 66:3, 155:13, 163:8, 182:5, 194:21, 208:12, 237:15, 237:21, 242:2 Questions - 4:14, 5:6, 5:8, 5:15, 46:13, 79:5, 213:17, 213:18, 216:19, 243:19 Quick - 90:4 Quiet - 36:9 Quite - 126:23 Quoted - 63:14 a | R& - 148:5 R01 - 159:19 RA - 167:7, 173:19, 174:2, 175:9, 175:14, 176:12 Radios - 26:21 Raise - 6:15 Range - 19:21, 20:4, 20:7, 20:10, 20:12, 20:19, 84:14, 86:4, 101:12, 101:17, 242:23, 242:25 Ranges - 19:21, 19:22, 21:12 Rarely - 33:23 Reached - 156:15 Read - 13:18, 16:10, 27:12, 27:19, 39:16, 107:2, 139:7, 148:13, 167:24, 180:12 Readers - 179:18 Reading - 83:22, 174:8 Ready - 49:16 Real - 210:3 Really - 34:1, 47:6, 91:1, 91:3, 99:16, 129:5, 140:2, 155:12, 191:7, 191:8, 222:15, 223:19, 236:7, 236:8, 239:16 Rear - 44:12 Reason - 41:1, 60:10, 67:4, 99:17, 112:11, 112:12, 143:22, 144:1, 144:16, 191:18, 197:15, 214:4 Reasons - 17:18 -8:9 Recalled - 39:24 Receive - 22:11, 128:23 Received - 44:12, 57:4, 57:7, 78:17, 103:23, 104:5, 105:12, 107:6, 214:3, 220:23 Receives - 25:7 Receiving - 26:23, 107:18 Recently - 227:8 Recognize - 188:17 , 194:7 Recognized - 76:10 Recollection - 210: 24 Record - 3:21, 80:17, 141:21, 180:5 Recorded - 3:19, EFTA00061313

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81:11 Recorder - 3:1, 243:24 Recording - 100:1, 100:3, 224:15, 224:22, 224:24, 225:10, 225:20, 226:9 Records - 71:13, 83:12 Recreation - 93:10 Rectify - 73:16 Redo - 243:4 Reduce - 31:25 Refer - 140:2, 142:7 Referenced - 40:5 Referred - 215:5 Refresh - 13:8 Refreshed - 83:21 Refused - 222:11 Refusing - 222:9 Reg - 126:8 Regard - 51:25, 217:6 Regarding - 57:16, 87:25, 104:5, 150:13, 219:7 Regardless - 115:8, 119:13 Regular - 10:18, 13:12, 13:13, 13:23, 16:13, 16:17, 51:22, 52:8, 53:9, 62:24, 68:18, 121:9, 133:8, 218:3, 238:17 Regularly - 60:21 Related - 104:23 Relations - 79:5 Relationship - 83:1 7 Relay - 76:25 Relayed - 81:13, 119:25, 120:5 Release - 127:3, 127:18 Released - 69:19 Relief - 16:7, 17:5, 186:19 Reliefs - 10:25, 12:12 Relieve - 28:24 Relieved - 17:7, 27:17, 28:24, 68:22, 82:13, 114:15, 144:11, 145:15, 145:23, 171:10, 171:13 Relieving - 29:4, 29:17, 29:19, 151:22, 186:4 Remain - 214:25 Remainder - 9:13 Remove - 71:13, 123:10, 123:19, 124:1, 124:6, 127:4, 127:21, 127:23, 128:9, 128:10, 130:1, 134:15, 136:20, 147:10, 147:24, 150:8 Removed - 71:13, 124:13, 127:14, 147:17, 149:19, 150:2, 154:2, 156:23, 163:11, 218:17, 220:3, 220:10, 220:14, 220:22, 220:25, 236:25 Report - 7:21, 33:1, 127:10, 133:19, 139:6, 142:11, 181:22 Reported - 229:3 Reporting - 78:21 Requested - 4:21 Require - 65:1 Requirement - 57:1 2, 60:20 Reserve - 9:3 Resolve - 199:8 Respect - 56:25 Responsibilities - 9 :25, 18:4, 18:8, 26:12 Responsibility - 68: 18, 77:5, 146:6, 148:17, 230:13 Responsible - 18:1 8, 32:22, 130:9, 132:11, 227:18, 230:1, 230:5, 230:18 Rest - 83:8, 175:18 Restate - 237:21 Rested - 101:7 Resting - 101:22 Restroom - 55:10, 55:12 Resumed - 82:16 Return - 56:2, 109:8 Returned - 231:8, 232:22 Review - 7:21, 60:23, 63:18, 64:23, 65:1, 70:6, 102:11, 121:17, 198:16, 241:2 Reviewed - 63:6, 64:2, 64:13, 65:12, 66:8, 66:16, 220:24 Reviewing - 65:4 Rice - 68:15, 68:16, 68:19 Ridiculous - 31:17 Roll - 12:1 Rookie - 62:3 Room - 22:24, 24:11, 27:25, 52:20, 54:24, 79:20, 156:11, 156:18, 156:19, 207:9, 225:5, 225:14, 225:24, 227:20, 227:21, 240:14, 240:16 Roommate - 57:4, 57:16, 68:17, 68:20, 68:24, 69:2, 69:3, 78:10, 150:9 Rooms - 52:21, 211:19, 212:2 HE - (98:23 Roster - 11:15, 15:19, 25:14, 61:16, 70:4, 115:17, 119:18, 142:20, 196:21, 203:22, 209:3 Rosters - 13:4 Rotated - 10:2 Rotation - 11:8 Rough - 223:4 Rounding - 227:3 Routine - 105:2 Routinely - 132:14 Row - 61:12 Rule - 68:20 Rumor - 37:22, 38:7, 38:23, 220:12, 220:17 Rumors - 212:20, 220:8, 221:20, 226:4, 235:3, 235:11 Run - 152:1 Running - 17:17, 149:14 Rushed - 41:16 Hl - 228:12, 228:14 Ma - 8:14 Sake - 86:20 Salt - 61:1 Sat - 33:14 Saturday - 13:5, 36:16, 143:24, 147:4, 153:17, 192:14 Save - 103:20, 103:24, 104:22 Saw - 33:18, 50:6, 79:3, 81:23, 130:6, 135:4, 136:14, 182:13, 191:12, 232:16 Scene - 79:25, 81:19 Schedule - 10:22, 11:3, 126:8, 127:9, 133:19, 137:20 Scheduled - 121:9 Schmukatelli - 140: 6, 215:18 School - 24:25, 44:22, 44:25, 45:5, 45:8 Scope - 19:11, 19:14, 21:3, 239:16 Screen - 241:4 Screens - 240:12 Scribble - 87:11 SDNY - 124:3 Search - 156:20, 156:21, 157:8 SEC - 45:25 Second - 5:18, 92:16, 92:17, 111:4, 122:12, 159:15, 218:12, 218:22 Section - 5:12 Secure - 80:17 Security - 5:4, 31:7, §3:20, 79:15, 79:20, 228:17, 233:11, 239:24 Seeing - 90:8, 91:6, 91:15, 109:14, 109:15, 123:9, 133:17, 168:18, 190:3, 212:4 Seem - 128:11, 131:19 Seemed - 84:2 Self - 52:17 Send - 108:19, 134:8, 142:19, 146:9, 146:10, 181:22, 243:13 Sending - 129:12 Sends - 146:14 Senior - 3:2, 3:22, 62:2, 62:4, 243:23 Sense - 68:4, 154:25, 155:5, 158:5, 186:16, 208:22 Sentence - 16:9, 69:9 Sentencing - 131:2 0 Sentry - 23:19, 23:21, 25:13, 70:8, 179:10, 180:5, 230:7 Separate - 211:18, 212:2 Separately - 113:14 Separation - 58:24 Serious - 35:22, 38:12 Served - 53:15 Service - 125:18, 130:4, 133:5, 141:18 Services - 88:22, 180:4, 225:1 Seventh - 207:2 Several - 39:25 Shadow - 89:21 Shaking - 31:16 HB - 62:2, 109:6, 109:23, 110:1, 110:9, 110:18, 110:19, 116:24, 116:25, 117:19, 117:20, 117:25 Shared - 183:14, 183:16, 183:22 Sheet - 20:11, 33:19, 33:20, 64:17, 64:18, 87:12, 100:9, 160:8, 190:9, 190:19, 193:21, 194:11 Sheets - 21:3, 22:3, 84:9, 84:11, 84:18, 85:19, 85:23, 85:24, 86:6, 86:22, 160:5, 187:24, 199:23 She's - 120:16, 186:10 Shifts - 13:15, 14:1, 14:7, 16:20, 17:10, 17:13, 221:23, 222:7, 223:13, 238:12, 240:17, 240:18 Shirts - 113:11 Shit - 77:15, 93:8, 213:6, 213:10 Shoot - 189:9 Shop - 225:17, 227:21, 228:16, 228:22 Short - 17:14, 23:9, 62:14, 196:11 Shot - 89:10 Shoulders - 31:20 Shouldn't - 68:1, 163:16, 202:11, EFTA00061314

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208:18 Show - 3:16, 11:4, 40:22, 150:18, 160:12, 176:19 Showed - 41:2, 45:19, 148:4 Shower - 52:19, 99:8 Showers - 178:7, 178:8 Showing - 127:14, 162:13, 176:14 Shown - 80:25, 167:3 Shows - 121:23, 123:14, 147:9, 159:6, 159:7, 159:11, 160:25, 161:1, 161:16, 162:7, 162:24, 163:22, 207:2 Shredder - 106:25 Shredding - 105:11 Sick - 15:7, 15:14 Side - 100:25, 101:20, 129:5 Signatures - 203:2 Significant - 214:16 Signs - 80:25 - 194:7, 198:20 Simple - 181:17 Since - 7:12, 8:23, 40:1, 164:23, 210:10 WM - 155:19 Single - 168:24 Sir - 4:1, 4:5, 4:10, 4:17, 5:23, 6:20, 12:17, 108:22, 120:13, 160:4, 161:10, 187:18 SIS - 225:10, 225:17 Sit - 19:10, 214:23, 234:3 Sitting - 105:18, 200:21 Situation - 145:6 Six - 17:16, 192:23, 199:23, 240:2 Sleep - 223:3 Sleeper - 237:12 Sleeping - 180:17, 218:5, 218:6, 221:19, 221:21, 221:22, 223:12 Slips - 166:23, 168:13, 169:19, 169:21, 170:2, 170:14, 173:3, 173:10, 173:21, 174:14, 175:13, 175:24, 176:11, 176:13, 181:13 Slot - 52:11, 53:11, 53:13, 219:16, 219:17 Slower - 7:23 Small - 206:11 Smalls - 206:4, 206:5 HM - 243:10 Smock - 218:5 Social - 36:8, 235:4 Socks - 216:12 Solitary - 10:6 Some - 19:24, 27:8, 29:2, 29:25, 58:22, 70:5, 143:21, 150:19, 160:6, 179:3, 181:16, 190:22, 192:25, 194:10, 217:12, 222:21, 237:16, 237:22, 238:5 Somebody - 70:21, 71:8, 71:9, 87:3, 130:8, 136:24, 137:8, 153:15, 159:25, 164:12, 170:13, 193:13, 204:9, 205:14, 208:17, 208:21, 235:17 Somehow - 176:12, 199:8 Someone - 60:11, 70:17, 70:19, 71:2, 71:23, 91:14, 96:1, 151:1, 170:16, 173:20, 183:6, 183:21, 183:22, 184:8, 205:25, 208:18, 210:14, 225:18, 235:1 Sometimes - 20:14, 48:10, 51:7, 54:19, 55:6, 124:24, 140:16, 145:14, 222:6 Somewhere - 95:7, 96:10, 144:13, 167:9, 188:22, 224:25 Soon - 45:19, 45:20, 71:19, 111:13, 230:9 SOS - 108:24, 109:4, 109:6, 156:9 Sounded - 238:6 Sounds - 116:22, 135:24, 206:15 South/10 - 160:22 Sp - 9:22, 25:23, 25:25, 45:25, 62:3, 79:24, 128:7, 140:6, 155:18 Space - 87:3, 151:7, 151:8, 151:9, 152:22, 215:1 Spade - 87:2 Sparking - 200:24 Speak - 79:4 Speaking - 22:7, 22:13, 37:4 Specific - 66:7, 148:16, 155:24 Specifically - 18:16, 30:15, 226:9, 237:18 Speck - 100:13 Spell - 3:21 Spend - 196:13 Spent - 9:10, 9:12, 196:18, 223:1 Spot - 91:13, 95:10 Squiggly - 206:23, 208:4 SSA - 3:19 SSN - 6:23 St - 8:17 Staffed - 17:14, 23:9, 24:6, 196:12, 229:16 Staffing - 238:11 Staircase - 90:12, 91:22, 92:1, 94:4 Stairs - 89:15, 240:4 Stand - 24:14, 49:7, 159:17 Standing - 222:23 Stands - 209:2 Stanley - 78:18 Star - 94:3, 95:9 Staring - 28:4 Start - 3:21, 6:14, 120:17, 161:11, 171:17, 186:23 Started - 163:9, 171:17, 201:19, 228:7 Starting - 153:19, 186:10, 214:18 Starts - 147:7, 153:4 State - 81:3, 178:5 Statement - 5:8, 5:14 States - 4:19, 8:9, 8:16, 34:25 Station - 59:23, 89:23, 91:23, 92:1, 93:3, 93:17, 240:13 Status - 45:13, 127:4, 131:20 Stay - 14:12, 38:8, 48:5, 82:12, 145:20, 222:12, 230:10, 242:22 Stayed - 120:20, 146:20 Stays - 65:22 Steady - 60:17, 227:5 Step - 91:4 Steps - 89:23, 90:5, 97:9 Stipulations - 44:2 Stop - 8:4, 225:20 Stories - 30:4, 35:5 Story - 145:5 Straight - 78:20, 78:23, 80:7, 80:16, 91:20, 94:2, 213:17 Street - 36:5, 36:25, 213:4 Streets - 220:18 Strung - 42:13, 237:12 Stuck - 44:21, 61:11, 185:1, 185:4, 222:6, 238:14 Study - 59:8, 125:7 Stuff - 26:21, 96:16, 105:17, 105:23, 122:23, 124:21, 127:4, 131:21, 146:4, 154:21, 165:23, 184:21, 194:17 Stupid - 213:20 Subject - 125:21 Successfully - 43:8 Such - 10:8, 199:1 Suggest - 169:25 Suggesting - 165:7 Suicides - 39:24, 40:2 Sunday - 144:24 Super - 62:16, 239:23 Superhuman - 77:1 Superiors - 136:2 Supervisor - 9:17, 9:19, 38:9, 50:2, 72:23 Supervisors - 33:2, 125:9 Surprising - 226:17 Surrounding - 4:12 Suspended - 40:9, 40:20 Suspicious - 217:6 Sustained - 52:18 Swear - 6:16 Switch - 13:15, 13:25, 15:3, 15:5, 15:11, 15:16, 15:17, 16:19, 16:24 Switched - 14:7 Synopsis - 155:25, 156:7 System - 111:9, 127:17, 147:23, 159:22, 230:2 Systematic - 237:1 7, 238:5 Tagged - 132:24 Take - 5:18, 22:6, 42:11, 49:18, 49:21, 54:20, 56:7, 132:6, 136:24, 172:1, 175:23, 192:8, 196:22, 235:20 Taken - 5:7, 55:25, 73:11, 82:11, 137:1, 138:24, 152:24, 171:4, 171:8, 200:13 Takes - 22:5, 165:16, 235:19, 236:19, 236:22 Taking - 23:1, 23:12, 26:20, 27:3, 30:25, 39:24, 74:19, 82:25, 169:2, 169:20, 170:17, 172:8, 183:4, 235:1, 235:7, 235:24 Talk - 19:5, 48:17, 61:1, 107:11, 119:19, 187:8, 213:20, 219:18, 232:18 Talked - 107:15, 217:14, 220:21, 237:23 Talking - 13:9, 18:16, 30:15, 30:17, 36:14, 38:2, 83:24, 104:21, 108:18, 114:1, 123:12, 147:2, 149:10, 213:6, 213:8, 213:9 Talks - 37:15 Tape - 213:14 + 211:6, 211:7, 211:12, 212:21, 213:24, 214:6, 237:6 EFTA00061315

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Task - 45:1 Tattooing - 32:2 Team - 149:14, 152:1, 234:10, 234:14 Tear - 103:2 Techs - 227:21 Telephone - 231:22 Telling - 78:6, 103:16, 233:24 Ten - 30:18, 35:8, 242:10 Tenure - 9:13 Terms - 38:25, 77:14, 87:1 Than - 35:6, 35:14, 46:5, 46:12, 175:4, 181:17, 197:7, 207:21, 219:24, 230:3, 232:15, 239:25, 242:5, 242:9 Thanks - 98:17 Themself - 214:20 Themselves - 3:20, 177:1, 21:4, 215:12, 235:18, 236:9, 242:4, 242:8, 242:14 Theory - 226:8 They'll - 72:8, 178:7 They've - 124:13 Thinking - 105:10, 114:9 Third - 27:15, 30:7, 123:18, 201:13, 206:25 Thomas - 83:15 Thought - 12:8, 26:7, 105:2, 105:13, 105:22, 106:23, 117:5, 117:6, 188:24 Threat - 215:11 Threats - 5:15, 58:5 Three - 19:22, 24:10, 61:25, 62:4, 62:14, 80:8, 143:2, 223:3, 236:22 Throat - 81:25, 82:9 Through - 7:23, 19:8, 30:24, 38:5, 46:25, 47:24, 61:2, 88:20, 156:12, 158:24, 165:6, 194:3 Throughout - 31:24 , 235:17 Throw - 23:14 Throwing - 23:7, 26:16, 26:17, 33:16 Thrown - 60:14 Thursday - 121:23, 126:5, 143:22 Tied - 42:16, 145:7 Tiers - 18:11, 18:19, 20:2, 21:8, 192:22, 192:23, 243:7 Till - 110:15 Timeframe - 48:19 Times - 14:12, 22:23, 23:8, 27:24, 47:23, 48:7, 52:9, 56:12, 61:3, 61:8, 61:12, 85:5 Timing - 34:19 Tired - 238:7, 238:15, 238:16 Title - 10:14 Today - 95:14, 210:19 Today's - 3:10 Together - 127:8, 154:18, 211:17, 211:21 Token - 237:6 Too - 49:4, 56:12, 79:20, 95:23, 100:14, 142:2, 142:5, 145:11, 181:12, 190:23, 222:24, 233:6, 238:7, 241:4 Took - 153:12, 165:18, 166:5, 171:22, 172:4, 172:10, 172:16, 172:22, 202:1 Top - 6:6, 42:24, 70:2, 139:24, 152:18, 167:17, 230:10, 238:20 Topics - 231:20 Total - 24:16, 36:18, 202:20, 243:8 Totally - 28:9, 90:11, 106:5, 236:18, 240:2 Towards - 91:10, 93:16, 156:12 Traced - 197:1 Trained - 34:3, 34:4, 34:17 Training - 32:6 Transcript - 39:16 Transferred - 69:20, 70:9, 125:11, 126:7, 126:22, 127:11, 127:22, 127:24, 127:25, 132:1, 133:17, 133:18, 133:25, 136:15, 139:4, 152:21, 221:1 Translate - 114:20 Transpired - 156:1 Transport - 72:7, 135:21 Trash - 103:15, 105:18, 105:19, 213:15, 213:20, 219:17 Trays -219:17 Tricky - 153:5 Tried - 41:14, 67:21 Trouble - 35:18 True - 19:11, 19:14, 21:3, 186:7, 240:6 Truth - 6:17, 24:15, 137:16 Try - 67:23, 83:4, 119:6, 182:18, 182:22, 184:4 T's - 152:6 Tube - 81:24, 82:8 Tuesday - 143:19 Tuesdays - 13:14, 13:24, 16:18 Turn - 237:16 Turned - 40:19 Turning - 243:24 Twenty - 95:18, 95:20 Twice - 222:17 Typical - 26:12 Typically - 29:5, 29:17 a UAD - 147:10 Unassigned - 62:13 Unaware - 44:17, 69:14, 81:1, 224:1, 224:3 Unbeknownst - 76: 15 Unclear - 66:4 Under - 5:21, 6:15, 7:17, 11:24 Underneath - 100:1 9, 101:9 Understand - 5:13, 5:24, 7:25, 10:15, 20:13, 39:13, 103:22, 104:15, 174:7, 217:1, 217:3 Understanding - 21 213, 48:3, 78:2, 92:18, 102:15, 106:21, 117:11, 183:13, 216:22, 216:24, 218:17 Undue - 214:8 Unfortunately - 199 se} Union - 9:3 United - 4:19, 8:9, 8:16 Units - 134:9, 140:20, 164:15 Unknown - 156:14 Unless - 34:5, 60:13, 76:24, 79:21, 84:23, 84:24, 117:13, 135:18, 168:5, 178:14, 182:12, 182:13, 188:9, 197:1, 207:18, 207:21, 211:22, 242:20 Unusual - 233:3 Update - 58:14, 148:24, 149:15 Updated - 64:1, 148:2 Updates - 63:23 Upon - 7:22, 109:9, 162:17, 163:4, 191:1, 209:23, 210:4 Upper - 89:13 Ups - 84:7, 222:8 Upstairs - 114:9, 151:25, 178:14, 196:23 Us - 23:18, 57:21, 69:21, 92:10, 125:3, 199:5, 208:22, 243:19 Use - 15:9, 55:10, 55:11, 77:14, 129:5, 149:11, 149:14, 151:25, 155:23, 158:7, 178:6 Used - 5:9, 5:17, 24:25, 43:17, 96:21, 122:5, 123:9, 141:10, 141:11, 143:6, 171:19, 240:21 Using - 178:20, 178:24 Usually - 79:10, 96:9, 142:11, 229:17 Utilized - 132:14 Utilizing - 179:5 Validity - 213:23 Verbal - 22:7, 22:11, 23:16, 30:25, 153:3, 164:2, 169:8, 169:14, 169:16, 169:17, 186:5, 186:14, 243:11 Verbalize - 57:24 Verbalized - 57:17 Verify - 155:7, 169:23 Versus - 170:14, 177:1 Very - 33:23, 36:9, 74:11, 136:1, 158:3, 158:12, 185:18, 194:14, 200:16 Video - 94:5 Hl - 25:23 View - 89:14 Visibility - 241:18 Visible - 32:5, 32:7, 91:22 Visit - 46:23, 51:3, 109:10, 118:3, 190:10 Visited - 77:24 Visiting - 156:11, 156:13, 156:18, 156:19, 193:10 Visitor - 156:14 Visits - 46:7, 47:11, 47:15, 47:24, 48:16, 114:4, 220:15, 230:17 Visual - 156:20, 156:21, 157:8 Voluntarily - 4:13 Voluntary - 4:14, 4:22, 5:5 Cw) Wait - 13:17, 92:7, 109:22, 160:20, 188:23, 195:11, 236:20 Waiting - 140:4 Waiver - 5:12 Wake - 215:16 Walk - 18:11, 18:19, 20:1, 21:8, 85:8, 85:9, 100:4, 156:19, 240:4 Walked - 33:15, 33:19, 156:12 Walking - 20:18, 91:9, 99:10, 222:2 Walks - 19:8, 135:15, 135:16 Wall - 93:19, 100:24, 101:20 Wansor - 7:2 Want - 3:16, 5:18, 8:1, 39:18, 42:11, 77:7, 87:1, 96:2, 141:20, 147:5, 154:23, 155:6, EFTA00061316

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155:8, 163:17, 181:8, 187:8, 214:8, 216:19, 241:22 Wanted - 15:15, 37:23, 38:3, 39:9, 106:14, 120:7, 215:20, 225:18, 236:7, 236:20 Wants - 236:9 Warden - 87:25, 214:24, 220:13 Warehouse - 62:17 Warnings - 4:20, 6:13 Warrants - 214:20 Watching - 208:6, 218:15, 236:11 Weapons - 32:1 Wednesday - 6:2, 243:22 Weeds - 161:11 Week - 222:6, 222:7, 222:17 Weekdays - 22:5 Weight - 60:25 Weird - 205:13 Welcome - 187:19 We'll - 24:7, 27:7, 27:10, 69:8, 163:12, 165:5, 169:14 Weren't - 17:6, 36:1, 38:17, 40:12, 60:13, 60:16, 71:21, 86:12, 137:20, 154:9, 175:22, 180:19, 189:20, 200:25, 210:18, 223:15, 224:11, 227:7 We've - 167:16 Whacky - 153:14 Whatever - 32:7, 55:11, 72:10, 83:6, 86:25, 94:4, 124:3, 126:13, 133:2, 133:3, 133:4, 162:19, 169:17, 193:12, 242:19, 243:7 What's - 28:13, 32:16, 47:1, 58:5, 113:12, 125:24, 163:14, 164:20, 173:10, 174:14, 177:20, 184:15, 228:11, 233:8 Where's - 128:7 Wherever - 167:4 Whether - 59:7, 75:13, 91:9 Which - 10:1, 10:2, 13:20, 22:13, 39:2, 81:10, 88:5, 89:13, 92:7, 159:22, 170:6, 182:17, 207:7, 225:16 Whichever - 143:1 While - 11:17, 23:12, 52:3, 64:5, 70:4, 120:14, 141:5, 156:9, 160:5, 210:19, 237:13 Whisper - 38:7 Whispers - 37:6, 37:24, 38:24 White - 113:10 Whoever - 77:23, 117:8, 130:6, 166:8, 169:19 Whole - 17:17, 21:25, 35:21, 117:4, 142:19, 176:5, 200:7, 213:16, 225:16, 239:3 Whose - 203:12, 204:16, 205:8, 207:9 Wicket - 52:7 Wickets - 52:25 Wide - 35:17 Wife - 45:17 Will - 3:18, 4:14, 5:7, 11:22, 39:16, 49:18, 59:5, 59:9, 72:7, 92:14, 109:9, 169:20, 178:4, 178:5, 186:17, 212:5, 214:25, 231:20 Willing - 5:14 Winded - 39:7 Window - 26:16, 42:17, 42:21, 42:25, 43:2, 51:5, 98:20 Wise - 126:25 Wish - 105:24 Wished - 227:12 Within - 40:12, 46:2, 122:20, 123:8, 128:2, 128:12, 128:15, 129:20, 131:8, 131:16, 131:19, 132:1, 132:16, 133:20, 139:16, 199:14, 230:5, 230:7 Without - 22:13, 69:3, 76:3, 76:22, 90:8, 91:6, 91:15, 91:16, 239:8 Witness - 6:9, 6:12 Witnessed - 34:2 Word - 32:17, 164:21, 178:3, 183:14, 233:8 Words - 119:6 Work - 13:14, 13:25, 16:19, 25:13, 45:13, 45:24, 60:15, 61:6, 67:16, 114:14, 122:5, 141:10, 145:15, 196:16, 226:15, 238:7 Worked - 8:22, 9:2, 10:18, 12:3, 13:12, 16:13, 17:13, 30:24, 40:2, 60:7, 62:17, 68:20, 82:4, 109:19, 117:7, 171:5, 171:7, 171:14, 210:24 Works - 122:6, 242:22 World - 164:18 Worried - 113:25 Worth - 60:25 Wow - 42:12, 95:21 Write - 23:20, 69:24, 86:25, 95:11, 96:24, 97:10, 97:24, 174:21, 222:8, 222:10 Writing - 28:7, 181:14 Written - 84:3, 174:12, 177:23 Wrong - 127:16, 174:18, 182:25, 185:10, 187:2, 187:7, 241:14 Wrote - 7:25, 8:2, 16:9, 17:11, 40:22, 136:3 Year - 9:10, 40:6, 62:22, 209:21 Years - 30:18, 35:8, 37:11, 39:25, 40:6, 44:3, 62:12, 83:15, 168:17, 222:22, 223:4, 227:2, 227:4, 239:6, 239:18 Yep - 77:18, 84:8, 98:4, 99:3, 112:9, 113:15, 115:15, 119:20, 145:24, 153:9, 161:22, 163:5, 169:4, 177:5 Yet - 116:15, 146:19 Yo - 42:10, 226:15 York - 3:5, 3:14, 6:6, 7:3, 8:18, 9:4, 126:1, 126:3, 235:16 You'll - 45:18, 147:5 Young - 222:20 Yours - 105:4, 203:13, 205:12, 208:9, 208:13 Yourself - 80:22, 214:15, 236:19 a | ZA - 150:15, 160:11, 161:1, 161:4, 161:16, 162:24, 163:23, 167:9, 167:16, 167:18, 167:24, 173:10, 174:2, 175:6, 17:14, 179:13, 243:10 ZB - 161:2, 161:3, 162:24, 175:8, 175:9, 175:14, 193:25 ZO06-220 - 147:10 Zombie - 222:16, 222:19 Zombies - 61:11, 222:3, 222:16 15 - 160:17, 160:21 a 00:06:15 - 9:22 00:09:11 - 14:5 00:17:03 - 24:16 00:17:49 - 25:24 00:17:51 - 25:25 00:19:24 - 27:17 00:21:12 - 30:16 00:22:58 - 33:10 00:27:38 - 40:25 00:30:35 - 45:25 00:32:35 - 49:10 00:34:50 - 52:25 00:38:34 - 58:23 00:41:12 - 62:3 00:51:00 - 74:22 00:54:46 - 79:24 00:59:40 - 87:2 0035 - 159:16, 159:22 01:00:36 - 88:11 01:01:15 - 89:8 01:06:32 - 96:3 01:29:42 - 128:7 01:37:52 - 139:22 01:38:11 - 140:7 01:38:54 - 141:4 01:39:07 - 141:14 01:41:21 - 144:3 01:46:31 - 151:11 01:50:02 - 155:18 01:50:55 - 156:16 01:53:05 - 159:9 01:56:10 - 162:6 02:11:57 - 182:8 02:14:29 - 186:1 02:21:12 - 193:4 02:25:05 - 198:13 02:33:27 - 209:19 02:33:48 - 210:5 02:35:03 - 211:14 02:38:42 - 216:20 02:52:11 - 236:5 02:54:04 - 238:8 035 - 176:4 055-60-8216 - 6:24 a 1:00 - 33:15, 33:18, 33:19 1:05 - 34:24 1:30 - 33:20 1:35 - 34:24 1:40 - 156:9, 156:25 1:45 - 34:24 1:50 - 109:4, 111:7, 158:1 10:00 - 153:7, 166:6, 166:10, 166:15, 181:3, 181:5 10:30 - 186:14 10:45 - 186:15 100 - 242:18 100% - 12:24, 53:24, 59:20, 63:14, 64:25, 67:14, 95:6, 100:25, 134:15, 208:24, 217:17, 225:22, 228:25, 229:24, 231:17 10th - 18:17, 35:24, 36:15, 50:16, 147:5, 185:1, 185:4, 200:4, 200:6, 216:17, 216:23, 217:7, 221:16, 224:8 11 - 202:21 11:30 - 192:17 11709 - 7:3 11th - 144:24 12 - 10:22, 11:5, 11:8, 49:25, 142:25, 147:7, 153:19, 153:21, 172:12, 172:15, 173:4, 173:5, 173:6, 173:8, EFTA00061317

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173:13, 176:2, 176:10, 192:17, 238:12 12:22 - 243:22 12:35 - 153:22, 154:1, 159:23, 176:19 12th - 145:1 14 - 243:4 15 - 8:24, 243:2, 243:3 16 - 214:12, 222:7, 223:6 16s - 238:14 18 - 223:4 19 - 223:4 1975 - 6:22 1978 - 5:2 19th - 50:10 1s - 168:9, 168:12, 174:11, 174:20 1's - 26:12 a 2:00 - 110:15, 110:16, 110:17, 114:16 20 - 222:21, 227:2, 239:18, 242:18 2000s - 238:23 2001 - 8:24, 43:23 2003 - 39:24, 40:4, 43:24, 43:25, 237:3 2009 - 211:13 2015 - 9:8 2020 - 7:12, 210:7 2021 - 3:11, 6:4, 209:5, 243:23 21 - 37:11, 168:17, 227:2, 227:4 23 - 212:18, 217:15 23rd - 218:20 24 - 46:2 26 - 6:22 27 - 19:8 280-3533 - 7:6 a 3:11 - 158:10 3:15 - 150:14, 152:14, 154:2, 156:24, 207:21 3:30 - 41:21 3:40 - 157:2, 172:13 30 - 20:21, 22:1, 22:3, 32:23, 34:22, 34:25, 35:6, 35:16, 36:1, 40:12, 41:3, 104:7, 190:9, 236:21 31-7:2 3-226/2 - 4:18 36 - 223:2 38 - 69:25, 70:2, 126:24, 127:1, 127:2, 127:13, 147:21, 148:4, 148:8 a 4:00 - 26:14, 26:15, 200:9 4:38 - 158:8 40 - 35:1, 40:12, 40:18, 41:3, 41:4, 223:2 45 - 207:19 46 - 89:13 47 - 222:20 48 - 46:5 4th - 95:14 Cs) 5:00 - 200:10 5:03 - 143:21 5:11 - 143:23 5:16 - 143:20 5:30 - 144:12, 144:14 55 - 243:10 5A - 161:8, 161:9 a 6:07 - 156:6, 157:19, 158:6, 158:11, 158:23 6:15 - 144:25 6:30 - 78:17, 135:5 6:33 - 144:8 6:36 - 145:2 6:45 - 78:17 72-5 - 153:22, 154:16, 155:4 73-5 - 153:21, 155:3 74 - 154:12, 163:13, 163:16, 168:3 75 - 154:12, 161:17, 162:3, 162:7, 162:16, 162:21, 162:24, 162:25 76 - 154:13, 161:17, 162:8, 162:17, 162:18 77 - 160:13, 160:14, 160:16, 161:1, 161:4, 163:9 77/5 - 161:1 7th - 143:21 8/10 - 159:13 8/10/2019 - 159:16 8/16/19 - 214:18 8/2/2019 - 159:10 8/4/21 - 6:5 8/9 - 193:25 8/9/2019 - 123:14, 126:9, 160:7, 163:22, 188:2, 190:7, 192:25, 194:11 8:30 - 72:13, 147:8 8:38 - 71:12, 111:8, 123:19, 124:11, 130:1, 136:5, 136:20, 147:9, 148:4, 149:19 8th - 126:11, 126:12 a 9:24 - 3:11 9:26 - 6:5, 144:1, 147:4 9:30 - 143:25, 146:17, 181:23, 183:7, 183:24 9:50 - 68:22 9:55 - 68:22 917 -7:6 95 - 167:16 96 - 242:18 EFTA00061318