ao uv &> W N 11 12 13 14 15 16 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF FLORIDA ORIGINAL © RE: OPERATION LEAP YEAR TESTIMONY OF special AGENT I I! Saees Federal Grand Jury 07-103 Federal Building U.S. Courthouse West Palm Beach, Florida Tuesday, March 20, 2007 APPEARANCES: Ul aa. States Attorney HELENA JOSETTE JONES-PARSONS, Foreperson eee OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC (954) 467-8204 Copy 1 of 13 EFTA00009478

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18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 The sworn testimony of SPECIAL AGENT E. as SC 2's taken before the Federal Grand Jury, West Palm Beach Division, Federal Building, U.S. Courthouse, Palm Beach County, State of Florida, on Tuesday, March 20, 2007. ee. Certified Court Reporter and Notary Public, State of Florida, Official Reporting Service, LLC, 524 South Andrews Avenue, Suite 302N, Fort Lauderdale, Florida, 33301, was authorized to and did report the sworn testimony. OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC (954) 467-8204 EFTA00009479

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wi a w teal 24 25 (Witness enters the Grand THE that the truth, truth, THE THE seated. Q please A Q or the Gicls, FOREPERSON: You do sol testimony you give will the whole truth, and nothing but the so help you God? WITNESS: I do. FOREPERSON: Thank you. EXAMINATION Special Agent i, state and spell your name for ct's i a ee te Now Special Agent Ee. last week last time that we met, we discussed two correct? Yes. Who Yes. visited Mr. Epstein's home? those were MZ 9. anc ME B.> you obtain photographs cE Gin OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, (954) 467-8204 Jury Room.) emnly swear be the could you the record? of those LLC EFTA00009480

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17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Q And do you know approximately when those photographs were taken? A They were taken during the same time period that we are investigating, '04 and '05. There may have been a few in '03, but it was within a year's time of six months within the activity that we are investigating. Q All right. Let me show you what has been marked as Grand Jury Exhibits 1 and 2, and can you tell us what Exhibit 1 is? A Exhibit 1 is BBBBBBP EM. ana it's a photograph of her with her date of birth listed. Q And what is Exhibit 2? A A photograph of | i. with her date of birth as well on it. MS. BRR: «9 Ana 1 will just pass those to the grand jury. By xs. a: Q Now the last time that we were here, you had described how QJ [J- had brought ma ff. to Mr. Epstein's home? A Yes. fe] Did | i. bring other girls to the Epstein house? A Yes, she did. OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC (954) 467-8204 EFTA00009481

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10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Q And is one of those girls a. A Yes. Q And what is the date of birth of a: A She was born . Q And where did - go to high school? Q And is that the same school that moe went to? A Yes. Q And was BRR 9. ever a student at that school? A Yes, she was. Q Tell us a little bit about -- well, first of all, did the Palm Beach Police Department have a chance to interview Ii > A Yes, they did. Q And what about yourself? A And I did as well. Q Okay. Tell us, if you will, how rti‘iséS~®@ started going to Mr. Epstein's house? A MMMM «was the one who brought PF to Mr. Epstein's house. | | told | that she may have to remove her clothing and that she could OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC (954) 467-8204 Copy (A (3 EFTA00009482

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20 21 22 23 25 makes $200 if she performed a massage for Mr. Epstein. She also was told by QR that he may try to touch you, but if you are uncomfortable, just tell him no, and she also said that if Epstein asked her age, she was to say she was 18. ie] Now that information that you just relayed, who provided that information? \ a. Q And what did x -- A I'm sorry. | provided in the interview to me that information. Q Did QRMMJ also admit that she brought WN «t©sSsMr. Epstein's home? A Yes. Q When did this first occur? A This occurred in -- we believe the first time period was when QR was 16. Q And is there any telephone records that show communications between 9 BJ ana a A Yes. Q And when are those phone records? A Those phone records show up in March of '04 when QJ would be 16. OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC (954) 467-8204 EFTA00009483

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17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Q Let me show what has been marked as Grand Jury Exhibit Number 3, and what is Exhibit 3? A This is a photograph of [yy i. with her date of birth, a. Q Now you mentioned that in March of 2004 and April of 2004, there are these records of phone calls and did WSs ay how old she was when she first went to Mr. Epstein's house? A I'm sorry. Did QJ say how old she was? Q Did she tell you or the police officers how old she was? A Yes. I'm sorry. I thought your question was did she tell Mr. Epstein. She told me that she was 16 when she went to Mr. Epstein's house. Q Okay. That is consistent with those phones calls? A Yoav: dt ie. Q Okay. Now during her first visit with Mr. Epstein, what happened? A She went to Mr. Epstein's house. [xx took her there. [RRM told her she didn't have her driver's license at that time, which she told OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC (954) 467-8204 Ceyry CAB EFTA00009484

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10 11 12 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 her she got her driver's license when she was 17. so PRBMMMJ drove her to Mr. Epstein's house. She provided Mr. Epstein with a few massages. She remained clothed both times that she gave him a massage. At this time, she kept her clothes on. I think one time she was wearing shorts and a T-shirt, maybe the second time she was wearing jeans and a T-shirt. That he constantly grabbed and pulled at her during the massage trying to draw her closer to him, but at that time, you know, there was no sexual activity other ( than the grabbing and pulling. There was no sexual activity that took place on those first couple of massages, and she remained clothed at that time. Q Now after those first few massages, was there a break in time before QM returns to the Epstein house? A MNS sto ld us that she and Qj haa had some kind of a PY a period where she did not go back to Mr. Epstein's house. | Q And when -- did there then come a time ( OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC (954) 467-8204 EFTA00009485

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21 22 23 24 25 when she returned to the Epstein house? A Yes. We have phone activity between ME 2c ME be cinning in December me. OS", Q And how old was [x I. in December of '04? A She had turned 17 at that time. In fact, through the course of the phone records beginning in December of '04 to October of 2005, we have over 150 phone calls between | Z. and HI I.» «sr. Epstein's assistant. Q What did | Z. tell you about the activity that occurred when she started returning in late '04? A When she started giving Mr. Epstein massages after that break, the massages became much more sexual in nature. Mr. Epstein continued to push and there were many times when an would perform massages completely nude. Several times, she would stay in her underwear with no bra on, but stated to me that Many occasions she performed the massages to Mr. Epstein in the nude. Q In addition to being unclothed, was there other sexual activity? OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC (954) 467-8204 Copy Fo (3 EFTA00009486

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wo | He rubbed he | well. She A Yes, there was. a. during my interview with a . she became very upset when discussing the sexual activity that took place at that time. | She stated that Mr. Epstein had on more than one occasion actually Po CT He would request her to pinch his La] It began first by stated that there was a | i ( as well, did not penetrate her, but that she described the , and several of the other victims have said the same thing, described it similar to that. Q And just before I forget, when you testified about me did a i. also report A Yes. Q And, again, so the record is clear, when you are talking about these a. they are A We have had some girls just describe OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC (954) 467-8204 EFTA00009487

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1 jthem as - a. We have had some girls just describe them as a ae - nd then we also had girls describe them as both, because of the eral , I think some girls are more aware of what ould look like due to their ages. You know, I don't know that everybody knew exactly what a I 1ookea like, but they all me. and we have actually had that described, and | described it as both, | Q Okay. Now in addition o using that |there other sexual activity A Yes. Several times during the massages, Mr. Epstein would have | straddle him while stomach and then he would reach Q And this is when he was laying on his back not his n tomach? A E's serry. Did I say that? Q You said on his stomach. | | A He is laying on his back. She's on top of him straddl D wining dmuadh hv reaching [i OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC (954) 467-8204 a *”) lof ( EFTA00009488 1

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10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 19 20 21 22 24 25 12 , but that was what was described to us by [g- Q Now when was QJ first interviewed by the Palm Beach Police? A She was interviewed October 6th of 2005. Q And at that time, did she say when her last visit was to Mr. Epstein's house? A Yes, she said October ist, 2005, was the last massage that she had given Mr. Epstein. Q Is there any other evidence that was recovered from Mr. Epstein's or his household items that would confirm that statement? A We have a message pad. During the search warrant, several of the message pads -- I don't know if we referred to them at this stage. We may not have. We recovered -- well, I shouldn't say we, the Palm Beach Police Department recovered several message pads. They were carbon copy message pads. So we have several of those books from their search warrant and in there, there is a message on October ist confirming Fo appointment for the massage as well as another OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC (954) 467-8204 EFTA00009489

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a ~ 13 Q And is there also evidence that ]xy and QR] BMI actually spoke on October ‘Ist before that message? A We have cell phone calls between Sy FY and | as well as the message which was from | to Jeffrey regarding -- confirming the appointment for a . but we have a cell phone call I believe it was a little bit earlier from | to | or maybe it was | to MM) «but it is definitely between the two of them on that same day. Q All right. When MJ was interviewed by the Palm Beach Police Department, did she describe all of the sexual activity? A No, she did not. She did not tell them about the ae - . the she didn't tell them Q And, again, you said that when you brought up did you sort of confront her with the idea that more had occurred? A I did, and she was very embarrassed about the PY I asked her at one point if Mr. Epstein had given her any gifts and she got very red in the face and began to tear up and you OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC (954) 467-8204 Cepy, ( of (3 | EFTA00009490

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10 11 22 23 24 25 14 could see that she was very embarrassed. So we took a little bit of a break, but then she was able to say that Mr. Epstein had provided her as a birthday present a a. So not only was there i used on her, but at this time -- and I think that's kind of what got QR) talking about the sexual activity that she was able to tell me that, and she was very, very embarrassed, but that Mr. Epstein had given her for her eighteenth birthday a Q Now you mentioned that that happened on her eighteenth birthday? A Yes. Q And was she able to tell you whether Mr. Epstein knew it was her eighteenth birthday? A She stated that Mr. Epstein provided to her on her eighteenth birthday the PY and shortly -- well -- Q So before you had said that J hea instructed | to tell everyone that she was 18; do you remember that? A Yes. Q But at some point, the people in the Epstein household learned that she hadn't turned OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC (954) 467-8204 EFTA00009491

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18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 18 yet and her birthday was coming up? A Her birthday was coming up. Q And at some point, was a car provided for > A Yes. In October of ‘05, | was having -- QJ asked Mr. Epstein is she could borrow one of his cars to go to Orlando and he stated that -- at first he said yes, and then he said he would get her a rental car. So BMJ contacted QJ a few days later and said that a car had been rented for GMNsaand sthat the house manager used the company credit card and QR picked up that car, and actually when the police interviewed her on October 6th, which was five or six days after the last massage, they were able to see that that Nissan Sentra that had been rented by Mr. Epstein, GWNSshaacd that in her possession for at least through January 1st of 2006 and that car was rented by Mr. Epstein for at least that amount of time. Q Did PERM describe how the massage appointments would be made? A Yes, she did. Q And how was that? OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC (954) 467-8204 Cepy fob (> EFTA00009492

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up appointments, and that sometimes she would call es her on her cell phone from New York, from the Islands, and say that they were coming into town, ao ww was she available. She would also call QJ while they were in town to see if she was available for massages, to give massages to Mr. Epstein, and stated that JRRBNM. who we have identified as Jy a . called her a few times as well to set appointments up. ( Q And when those appointments were made 14 how would QR reach 3? 15 A By phone. 16 Q All right. And whether she was in town 17 or out of town, she would call QJ cell phone? 19 A Yes. 20 Q All right. Now was there any -- during 21 the interview with the police department, did the 22 police department ask | about what she 23 |discussed with Jeffrey Epstein during the 1 A She stated that J HM. that 2 |MMMJ. Jeffrey's assistant, would call her and set 24 | massages? 25 | A I would have to check the police reports OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC (954) 467-8204 EFTA00009493

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1 to give specifics on that. 2 Q All right. san A My answer to your question is yes. 4 Q Okay. And what did she say were some of | the topics of discussion? 6 A Mr. Epstein asked her questions about Yi herself, asked her if she was ‘i or 8 that - Jeffrey knew that she was iia 9 and asked questions about her college, about where 10 she was going to school. aft is currently going me 1 - . and she had advised Mr. Epstein that 13 she would be attending college ii. 14 Q So that was a but that was her future 15 |plan? 16 A Yes. Lag Q So in other words, did Mr. Epstein know 18 that she was in high school at the time? Le at A Yes, he did. And the Palm Beach Police 20 |asked QJ if geffrey knew her age and 21 ltold the Palm Beach Police Department, he didn't 22 care what my age was. 23 Q Now did | describe either to you 24 or to the police department how she would be paid 25 for these massages? OFFICIAL REPORTING (954) 467 SERVICE, 8204 LLC EFTA00009494

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20 21 22 23 24 25 18 ( A She stated she was paid $200 and that she received anywhere from two to $300. Q With every visit? A With each visit. Q Okay. Did she say who would provide her with that money? A She said that Jeffrey paid her at the end of the massage. Q All right. You mentioned the gift of the vibrator. Were there other gifts that were given to A Yes. The time period is unclear, but ( the i --: given to her for her eighteenth birthday. There were three sets of bra and underwear, panties, Victoria Secret bra and underwear sets that were also given to J as gifts from Mr. Epstein. Q Now I know that we talked earlier about the fact that | is the person who brought WN «¢t>s«SMr. Epstein's house. vDid QJ ever bring anyone to Mr. Epstein's house? A | brought a female by the name of and that was a friend of [- And let me show you what has been marked as Grand Jury Exhibit 4, and what is Grand Jury OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC (954) 467-8204 EFTA00009495

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24 25 Exhibit 4? A It's a photograph ‘hm with a date of birth of I. | Q How old was a. when QR took her to Mr. Epstein's house? A WMNs sto ok «Cher there in the spring of 2005 and ae «:: 18 at that time. Q Now can you tell us now QJ went about bringing i to the house? A GS sto la that she could make some money giving a massage to Mr. Epstein and aa and fe went to Mr. Epstein's house together. | The first time that J went there, she did not go upstairs and give him a massage. MN «was working that day. But in talking to MSsferther, BRR) stated that she probably jover the period of time between the spring of '05 and October of ‘05, performed around five to ten massages for Mr. Epstein. The first few of those he did not do anything as far as no Re . no sexual activity. She would just perform a massage. Q And did that change over time? | A Tee, ts Gee. She stated that she OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC (954) 467-8204 Cory (of (3 EFTA00009496 19

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17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 20 ¢ performed two to three massages out of those five or ten and in her underwear and bra only, and that he would push her each time. He would just push her to do more and on the third -- I believe she stated the third or fourth massage, he told her that she could make more money if she removed her clothing, because she stayed clothed during the first few massages, and she was paid $200 for each of those massages. On the third or fourth massage, Mr. Epstein said that she could make more money removed her clothing. So around the fourth or if she fifth time, she did start taking off her clothing down to her underwear and bra only. Q And then what happened when she was at that point of being unclothed? A She would perform the massage. He attempted to touch her, but she always would say no. At one point, her bra does get undone by Mr. Epstein, but she does keep it up. Q Now that was the extent of his touching MMMM. 8t some point, dia ne yy] = in front of her? A Yes, he did. Not in the very beginning, but throughout this he did. Now I should tell you OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, (954) 467-8204 LLC EFTA00009497

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20 21 22 23 24 21 that QJ stated to us that because she was kind of reserved or held back as he made advances towards her, she was able to see Mr. Epstein's eS cs: cas not feel that Mr. Epstein liked her very much. Q But just to sort of compare what | said with what QJ said, they both said that at the beginning they remained clothed? | A Yes. Q And that Mr. Epstein progressively pushed and pushed and pushed for more sexual activity? A Yes. fe) Now what was the period of time that GN «went to Mr. Epstein's home? A March of -- I'm sorry, spring of ‘05 is jwhen QJ said that she went there and around, you know, the investigation is heating up with Palm Beach, so we know that in September of '‘'05, there was a trash pull done, and in that trash pull there was a message and that was found and it stated -- it had | phone number on it and it stated, for a good time call FY and OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC (954) 467-8204 op, lf (2 EFTA00009498

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21 22 23 24 22 Q And whose stationery was that? A It was on Jeffrey Epstein's stationery. Q And had Jeffrey Epstein been in a Palm Beach resident close to those dates? A Yes. Q Now is there evidence of telephone calls A Yes. Q And how many phone calls have you been able to identify? A At this time, there have been 14 phone calls. Q All right. “And just to compare that to the number of phone calls with [Rr A with QR, there was over 150 phone calls between QR os 7c EE EE. Q And that is sort of consistent with the number of massages that RM did versus the number of massages that 9) dia? A It is consistent with especially the activity that | was providing Mr. Epstein compared to the activity that fF would provide. (Thereupon, knocking is heard at the Grand Jury door.) OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC (954) 467-8204 EFTA00009499

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N 23 GY mmm | et ne just step out for one moment. | Le exits the Grand Jury Room.) , | WINse@ tt ers the Grand Jury Room. ) | fo Ladies and gentlemen, I am going to have to take a break now and we will be back either next week or the following week. Thank you very much. You are done for the day. } (Witness was excused.) } CERTIFICATE OF REPORTER Reporter and Notary Public, do certify that the | j}transcript is a true and correct transcription of my stenotype notes of the testimony of the Federal Grand J SPECI ied CowWrt Reporter OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC (954) 467-8204 Cop, 1 (9 EFTA00009500

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